CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 32 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. [laughter] >> No, the way he did it. You have to see this. Cuz this is where I get my energy from. [laughter] If it's like this, this is because you went like that. >> Can we do it again? Can we do it again? >> But everybody quiet. I want to hear HIM JUST [laughter] GOOD MORNING. Not even this. This is going to be MDY isn't just about learning the DAFF. It's about living the DAFF. It's about the Gishmak, the excitement, the incredible feeling of being part of the biggest movement in the world. Even nothing but the DAFF isn't enough for me. I need the whole experience, the stories, the videos, the comments, the jokes, the tangents, and everything else that makes Y what it is. Because at the end of the day, it's not about getting through the DAFF. It's about having the daff become something you look forward to every single day. We're holding where are we holding like uh seven lines from the bottom. >> Okay. So if you recall maybe like 15 lines up it says my we'll just go just read those few words. I told you to remember it but unfortunately we didn't finish. [clears throat] Can you sell me again? What's micer? [clears throat] No, no, no. This 10th animal that comes out of the pen goes to the to the c goes to the b mikdash. Ah, sorry. What are we talking about? Goes to yourself. Goes to yourself. Meer miser is something we said you can't sell. Well, you can sell. You can't sell. But the fact that you can't sell it, is it a Here's the We have a Yasum. We have a lot of on the He's and and if he if he can't sell it, what's going to happen? He's going to shuck this animal. He has a,000 pounds of meat. He could only eat 2 lb. What's he going to do with the 998? He's going to throw it in the garbage. But is he awesome? You have to have on him. You can't have if it's against the So the only is says the way to get out of it is you do some sort of trickery. You pretend that he's selling skin and there he sticks in the 998 pounds of meat. He sells the piece of height that usually goes for $10. He sells it for $10,000, for $2,000, whatever, however much. Have a look. Robba says no. Ra says the whole problem of selling mice is only the the problem. So if it's a problem are going to remove their their limitations and they're going to say let's have we're not going to put our on it. It's a big if it's awesome says but if you look at the price just read continue reading case number one is there's you're allowed to sell it and then it says case number two ask according to you we're talking about one case of so why does it say two cases it's the same exact case repeating itself I don't agree with you says you don't have to do have law. There's no trickery. I just sell it. Why? Because it's only removed their limitation. And we have an adult, a regular then I can use trick of yesterday we learned says that when he sells he can do trickery an adult cannot do trickery. We don't we don't encourage trickery. It's not trickery. Maybe I'm using as too strong of a word. Just have it's not a thing to pretend you're selling skin that's worth $10, but it's really you're selling it for $1,000. To sell a guy a lulov >> and give him a a free SRG. >> Everybody knows what's going on, >> right? Well, the said people don't know what's going on. In skin, they do know, but in the SRIG they don't know because so cheap. How do I know? by right I don't know if we're not going to show tomorrow again everybody knows what tomorrow is when you have you don't like the size you don't like the way it looks you want to upgrade it that upgrade you say the second animal should be instead of the first animal that's so now we're talking about when can you make a when it's alive when can't you redeem it can't redeem when it's >> [clears throat] >> In fact, you could you could do a redemption says this is all the said you got to be careful after which you could redeem it because you might get confused with before something that you could um evaluate when it's alive which is What? Which is meat. So the hide you don't do evaluation when it's alive. It says when it comes to they they said let's have them. Let's do there's no here. We're going back to the the you could sell it just repeats itself. You don't have to do you don't have to pretend that you're selling high. Just sell it normally. You can do whatever you feel like. Eat. [clears throat] Most all the carbanas even if they have a they have a what does that mean? You're allowed to sell it. You're allowed to redeem it. But what is this animal? You can't only after but you could you could sell it after you it sell when it's alive. There's one that you can't sell when it's alive. But you could sell it. He says you could sell it. According to you can't sell it. The only person who could sell it is a with a trick of ma a regular person selling his his micer. Could he sell the meat pretending that he's selling bones? He'll sell a bone. A bone typically goes for $10. He's going to sell it for $1,000. Yes. No. says please in fact not even why when it's a tiny animal when it's a sheep their bones are worthless worthless so you can't do but a large bone that you could make something out of it here this is I found this picture this morning from seven and a half years ago I guess it might be a real picture of a bone that was fashioned as a axe of some sort [snorts] and Here. This is uh the newer version. A larger bone. You can make a nice a nice cle make it into a a handle. Oh, I stopped that. Okay. Here's here's a few bone handles. Real bone handles. Okay. >> [clears throat] >> or you know we're talking about larger bones which they have some value some people make uh vessels out of it but some places they don't here in America we don't use bones for kale so therefore you can't do a lot you can't can't pretend that you're selling the bone but in China they do use bones maybe I don't know in Vietnam maybe they use bones we're going to this is a pretty Easy. It's repetitive. Very, very simple idea. Let's get the first minute of it. Then you'll have the whole thing. I I put in here. What does it say? Olive. He's changed it. Yeah. Here. Here. If you want to see the actual post like I threw it in here today actually okay it says this is for later on in the suga but is the same exact ideas in other words you can't redeem can't redeem okay what does it say about you >> so they they they change the gears on the side he changes it it's because in the posa >> but this is the original text Okay, vinimar means you the cannot redeem it. But once you give it to the has the right to sell a what do we discuss that you can't sell you can't [clears throat] sell but that's has nothing to do with but it says you see on the top you can't sell it ever even after right there's a little bit of a confusion in the Hebrew here you can invite a guest you can invite a person you can give it to anybody can eat it we're going to see actually it's gar you give it a guy. Could you have a meal with a guy? You sit down. We'll see. But you're allowed to eat. Anybody could eat it. You just can't deal it. You can't sell it. No. You can't sell. [clears throat] >> Oh, very good. How do you know these words? Cuz I was I was told to go back. That's how you know these words. Let's talk about for a second. There's two types of we're basically today dealing with where a person says it's just a language. It's like saying I'm I'm making a nether that this should go to I'm making this go to it's a that's why we call it it's one of the words. Yeah. So what's here? So until you give it to Kim, you're not you're not use it. It's an elo. You don't sell it. [music] Just give it to the once you give it the kayen then it becomes [music] oh if it's by the owner it's considered once you give to the consider now that we know so we have something called axer very very simple it has the same name the same words in both it says and is given by you can't make up you can make up logic but not ex now how it was given that sometimes becomes a debate in what context in was it given this way was it the goal of this that which thing sometimes we don't know that the you know it's a It's messer and maybe it's messer and I don't know what but we know the idea. What's the famous one in kushian? >> Yeah. Okay. Now another thing that we have to know is >> this one's in the same paragraph. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Few them apart. Doesn't have to be in the same paragraph can be in different. But in sha there's something called mna. MA means are the words that we're using the words are they extra? If they're not extra sometimes you could say that's that doesn't work because you have a so this one is different than this. If it's extra then you can't you can't refute it. If the go some for some reason they're extra will prove that they're extra then no matter what even is so different than because this and this it still goes together. It's a still it's a good it's a good you can't break it. So says the as we see on the chart over here the words are identical. Now look at the words here. It says in the bottom one bottom box selling and and redeeming go together in the same pos. So also we're also not going to sell. That's so I'm asking you how do I know that you're not allowed to sell because and I learned it from B is going to be I think says the word means don't sell that is the word that's the in this not in the but in the must mean he proves means don't sell but over here we're learning what I'm learning just like can't sell the when he get the the bum sorry the bum can't So, so you can't sell. Great. Depends. Depends what you have. What made the point is I want you to know that the words are extra. Why? Because if they're not extra, you could ask because if those words are extra I could no one one I think one here the Gar is going to explain here the is going to explain here. So here we go. Check this out. We're learning look we're learning about we're learning from that's what we're doing. if this arrow would work. Oh, we're learning that from that because in one poss are extra why do they have to be extra because I could say and this is the big this is one you try to remember this you could say on a carbon nobody would believe this if you didn't learn it over here you could say on a carbon I already said it no because logically you say no this thing already is belong belongs to the it's not mine I'm going to bring it to the I could say my this is to the meaning I'm giving the I'm giving the value that I have in this I have a personal benefit I'm bringing I'm going to tell my friends you know where I'm going today I'm going to bring you so it's so so it's worth something for me. It's not worth something for you to go to the kisel and d by the kisel. It's not worth a couple hundred, a couple thousand dollar. Yeah. >> But how does that express itself to the bas? >> Right. Right. So there's a there's a ration. How do you how do you pay for it? No. You take that money. Do you take that money that's worth it's worth for you $200? You have to give that $200 to it's his money. Huh? Goes in. Nothing changes in the >> you just you just added extra money that goes to D as a gift to him says and by the way this is classic we had it a bunch of times in it's the same wording they love this word in the liar true it is actually Now you could say by the way now I think maybe oh yeah it is actually you know why because you don't even need the words learn from that what do I need the words because they're extra When you take you have a bunch of check this out this beautiful brand new for today you have a bunch of sheep newborns this year you have to count every tenth you put a red dye on it and that's the one that you the owner bring to the ba mikdash to you to eat you have to count painted the wrong one. The first one. So the fun of painted the wrong one. 11. Now what? So all three have gusha. You wait until all right. So that's a special kesh that all three become. So mayah you don't learn micer from [snorts] they're different. Oh so now we're going to introduce something else. Let's learn from Bkar. Let's see. I think it's this one over here. Yeah, we should learn from just like you can't redeem because only one I need the words because it's extra and once it's extra we have that's solid. You can't break it. No. Oh, they're showing you that the is very nice. Let's do that again. It's you see on the gold star the is something special that it's it's born with different it's different than from where it says here it says boom boom both and calls you I'm telling It's easy. It's just right. But they're easy. It just It's the same thing basically back forth just like you can't redeem. So why do I need the words? They're extra. If they're extra what you have a great but at the end of the day how can you learn from but the extra asks that we know you could sell a you can't sell mice or we could sell a why don't we say they cannot sell a because I'm going to learn from that you can't sell can't sell you want to know the word is extra it's not extra but why told you which one is extra why do you decide the one by me is extra not the one by says very simple learn. This is classic also throughout very very consistent when you have the same words you learn from you learn from but it's not the same words it's ask the famous question but even if it's not the same you could still do how do I know so we have to show this video for the new people, but it's sped up very very fast. The car goes to check on the wall or nega on the wall and then he comes back a week later and the uses a different word for the same exact idea and it just means he comes to the he comes back to the house. He he returns. So you could learn even though the words are not at all the same but they mean the same thing. Somebody else also learn between which they mean the same exact thing. So what's the answer the always says? >> That's because if you if you have something that's identical, let's use identical. You're right. You could if you don't have anything that's identical. If you have this, you could learn it, but it's a lot better till you use the identical one. When you don't have anything similar, good. You're stuck. So you learn we'd rather learn let's learn we learn already from so let's now learn from that what that you should not be able to sellar we know that you could sell a bar who there's a word that tells you that it's that thear is different whoar I'm sorry the does have does not have maybe the word who goes no we already said is a better limo than this asked what what where is this animal that you did that we saw in the video already we're not going to do it again if the owner who said This animal should be aim to dy find the so it's 100% meaning you can't milk it you can't do anything to it got it ready then it's 100% this it's literally like if you give because oh why I need the words so I don't need so I use it by also all classic so once again we have the same answer maybe say that's talking about the going on no I like I don't like almost forget forget the word means I cannot sell micer how do I know you can't sell micer it's in the says about you can't redeem we're talking about micer no we're talking about micer of a of a when could you do to the when it's alive? When is this? When can't you redeem me? When it has you could redeem. This is what this is proof. You need to stand up this animal. Do we have the No. Oh, I forgot to show you this. Say, "Show it." >> Yeah. >> It's an old one. It's just a classic. But once you this animal, you can't stand them up. In order to redeem, in order to evaluate, he has to stand up in all four. Thou those we're going to continue showing. What do you see? You see that it can't be to redeem because to redeem you need to stand them up and you can't stand them up. So means don't sell. Okay, that's great. That's great proof. If you actually have to stand them up, it's hard standing up. You don't need to stand them up. How do you know that means don't sell? Maybe it means don't redeem and you could redeem even though it's dead because you don't have to stand them up. This is what I meant. Is there something is it possible that something that when it's alive you cannot redeem but after it dies you could? Allah it makes a lot of sense actually logically. Why? When something's super you can't redeem something that's super kadesh. It's a lot easier to redeem something that has less like or but much harder. So when it's alive has super it's hard to redeem but when when when it's when it's less you could say it's going away. No, it's it's actually when something is alive and it should it should have the the ability to catch on. The pinion should work. Nevertheless, you said you can't you can't redeem it when it's alive. But when it's dead, when it doesn't have that kind of power, you're going to redeem it. Then the word means says the If so, let's take a look at this this for a second. >> Yeah, you're in the wrong over here. It says in in the by it says one means don't sell. The other means don't redeem. But if you're telling me that the word does not mean don't redeem. It means don't sell. So say don't sell. Why are you telling me don't redeem when you mean to say something else? He says, I think, oh, it's only referring to selling. Oh, and I'll actually explain it to you. The reason why you can't sell something makes a lot of sense. You don't want to um >> sheep in the meister. Is that a good word? The micer is a better word. How do you say maza? >> Okay. Disgrace. >> Disgrace. You don't you don't want the to be disgraced by by when you sell something it's like it's disgraceful this is but maybe you should be able to redeem why I'm telling you logic at the end of the day gains I use a word that means two things means don't redeem but we know it means also don't sell so now I gain two for one don't sell and don't redeem says the we have a three-way as we're going to see when the the eats his can he invite a Jew to eat with him a can he invite a non-Jew or [clears throat] does he only eat it with a k so those are the threeas really they're allowed to eat you're allowed to eat it even with a here we go I don't know if it makes a difference. >> It says why is allowed to eat it? >> He's allowed to eat. The difference is allow it to eat. It has to be only interesting. Let's see what Rashi says. Says Rashi. Oh no. According to one cheita, they still say even Israel and Rebea says Oh, says even a when the Mishna says they still say that even a go who does it go according to that goes according to let's see how he eats it for a second no doesn't show yeah the the says you have to only that's even he says even a could join what's the reason by the it's only not so by also it's Only have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy.com.