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CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 3 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

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[music] I go my [singing] Say SH [singing] SO, here's the question we're dealing with. If a person sells an animal that's not pregnant, sells it for the offspring. What's the in terms we learned you're not allowed to sell an animal to a guy? What happens if you sell an animal for the offspring which and she's not pregnant yet? If you do meaning there's two cases either you own the animal, you Jew own the animal and you have a non-Jew work it, take care of it, feed it, and then you share because you're the owner. He does all the work. We usually have that with a field. We have it also with animals. you share in the prophets in the offspring. So there are two cases in the Mishna. One is the Jew receives from the guy. In other words, the go is the owner and over here talking about the Jew is the owner. He is the owner and it doesn't mention anything that it's like in the case that when you sell the animal to the guy you sell it completely the Mishna tells you oh it's no you're not allowed to but even so what's in this case the Mishna doesn't mention that it's asking wait a minute there's other cases in the Mishna that are yet the mission doesn't tell you that's the mission only mentions it once by the case of selling How come it doesn't say when you become a partner with the guy that it's going to tell me it's because it doesn't mention it's father said you're not permitted to make a partnership with because you might come to make you might come to make him swear the non-Jew will have to swear and he'll use You're not allowed to cause another person to say you're not you're not allowed to be a partner with nonju cuz you're going to cause him to to swear in his idols. You should know that the Mishna means all five things are also to do. So how come it only mentions it that it's authored by one? But also in our case is also don't bring a ria from our Mishna that oh it seems like you're allowed to sell to for future profits of the Uber of the the fetuses. No, could be it's but the mission doesn't mention it. Why? Why does it only mention by one case the big the big is the selling of a of a large animal to the nonjew because of the and everything that's the main one. So we said it at the main one and but it's the other four also are to do you know how to become partners you know how to do both ways they're all so what's the question again can I sell a non-Jew the future prophets the future fetuses the future if the non-Jew owns the animal and you are the worker and the the the animal gave birth so now you have a partnership with the So you you see how much it's worth and you are responsible for 50% your 50% you give to the now if that is what now if you give the guy you have to buy back the animal from the guy 10 times its value. And after you get it back from the from the you give it all to the as long as there's a even if he's a small partner your partner from so says we're talking about you see from here that's o to sell to a the animal itself you get you get a penalty selling the animal We're talking about the fetus. Now this fetus is different than the fetus that we were talking about before. Before we're talking about a future fetus. Now we're talking about a real fetus. The mother is pregnant and you sold it as is. On that you get a penalty. And I'll prove it to you like we had yesterday. Remember it says and is and is the fetus. Because had it been talking about the animal itself, it wouldn't say it would say because so it would have to be would say like this says have a right. We have a right. We're going to see soon the same thing, but instead of saying that the penalty is 10, it's going to say it's 100. So if you sell a large animal, the concern is that it might work on chabas before you sell. He's going to test drive it on Chavez. Awesome. So ask Davka. It's a huge amount. [clears throat] Talking about $20,000, $20,000 penalty for a $2,000 animal. And if it's a 100 times the amount, this is what I'm going to say soon. It could be $200,000 to buy back an animal. That's a lot. So sometimes it's an exaggeration. It's not literally. Yeah, we we penalize him. He has to pay good but not not 10 times the amount. Listen to this. If you don't look in the garra, you don't cheat. And I tell you a case. Tell me what you think. The gumar says if somebody sells a slave to a non-Jew, the penalty is 100 times. You have to redeem the slave up to 100 times the value. Does that prove to me that the number 10 is an exaggeration or the number 10 is exact? I'm telling you if you sell a slave to go, it's going to be a 100 times penalty. So the 10 times when you sell an animal to go, you have to pay 10 times. It's exact or it's it's an exaggeration. What do you guys say? So the says that that proves that's exact because if I'm using an a specific number here and a completely different number over there, so both numbers are exact numbers. Otherwise, it use 100 in both. You couldn't go both ways. If you sell your slave to to now the penalty to buy him back is 100. What what's what's so severe about selling the slave to the guy? He doesn't do mitzvah anymore. He stops doing mitzvah over there. It won't be able to perform any mitzvah, not even the mitzvah of the woman, which is shiny. You know what? It's not a when you sell your slave, you actually have to pay 100 times the amount. Why? You get a severe penalty because every single day that he's at the non-Jews house, he's not doing mitzvah. For that, you have to pay. But the 10 that we penalize you now for selling your animal to a guy, maybe that's an exaggeration. I don't know. Maybe that's an exaggeration. The 100 for the evidence is not exaggeration. Some say when you sell until now, yeah, you sell spoken about selling a slave to now selling penalty 100 times. If you if you're a cobblin, how do you say coblin in English? >> Contract. >> Contractor. >> You contract. Okay. You take somebody's animal, you're contracted out to to feed it, to take care of it. Just for doing that, for getting a non-Jewish contractor, 10 times the amount. So you see the question. The question is, if you sell it to a non-Jew, you have to pay 100. If you contract it out, it's 10. Says the difference. On the one hand, we have if a guy's a contractor, the the penalty is only 10. If you sell it, it's 100. What's the difference? Sorry. When you sell your animal, it's no longer going to come back to you. For that, you have to pay a nice penalty cuz it becomes, you know, it's interesting. The animal is not Yiddish anymore. He's a go animal. For that, you have to pay there's something to it. Now, he's not going to be shab. But when you own it, you still own it and you just contract it out, then the penalty is less. It's only 10k. Is the number an exaggeration? Not exaggeration. Says the if you sell your slave, it's up to 10 times the amount. Now the is the opposite of what we said before. Now you see it's an exaggeration. Before when we said when you sell a slave for 100 you get 100 times penalty. We said it's exact. Multi said exact. This guy said they all said it's exact. 10 over here 100 over here. It's exact. But now that I'm telling you that to sell a slave is a is 10. 10 is a problem. Why? Because you're doing a terrible thing. You're taking a guy away from mitzvah and yet it's only 10. But when you sell an animal as much it's 100. That doesn't make sense. That doesn't add up. Why would a slave be less than selling an animal? That's called an exaggeration. says, "No, no, no. You know why you get a small penalty? Because you never get the slave back." Let's do the math. I'm going to give you 10 times the amount penalty when you sell your slave. You're going to redeem the slave. You sold him for $1,000. You're going to redeem him for $10,000, but you're not going to get a slave back. Your slave goes free. He's gone. He's gone forever. Therefore, I can't give you a larger penalty of a hundred. When it comes to an animal, listen to this. When it comes to an animal, how much is the penalty? A hundred. Why? Because you get the animal back. Where's the math? If you get the animal back, how much would the penalty be? >> One more. 10 plus you got back an animal. So, make it 11. Why 100? That makes no sense. So, just give him 10 plus the one animal he got back. Okay, he benefited a little bit. He gets the animal back to to sell a slave to nonjew is very not common. He goes away. You know, you have all these takas in the Reb made a for weddings. Well, you can't spend x amount of money. You can't you can't invite x amount of people. the whole thing. He never made it to how much you used to spend on right spend a million dollars if you want as long if there's a non-Jewish partnership say you don't have to do again for all the new people the guys that just started today beautiful if you have a brand new a newborn donkey [clears throat] you have to redeem him how do you redeem him either with money the value of the donkey, you have to give that money to the cayenne. Or there's a cheaper way out by giving a sheep. If you have a a sheep that's cheaper than a donkey, use a sheep. You have to give it to the kayen. But there's a partnership with a guy. You don't have to do it. And says you have to learn it from the same. We got to we got to put some uh speed over here because we're very behind. It says in the what does mean all of the as long as the Jew some of it has to do say that if there's a little bit of a partnership of a potter why you have to own the entire thing in order to be no opposite it starts the reverse the word means 100% you own 100% brings sometimes call comes to limit even less even less than 100% or you can say no the word means let's say 75% or 51% say that the word goes from 51 to 100 so in order for to be you have to own 100%. And if you own 99% it's not enough and says it comes from 51 to% to take you down to 49%. In other words, you are always no matter what as long as you own a little piece. Now how much what what does the guy own? Even his ear, even something insignificant like the ear, it's not going to die if you chop the ear off. Says, "Why don't you tell the non-Jew, take your ear? Take it." What does that mean? Cuz the kite owns the whole animal. He should get the whole animal. Now, if you take if you take the ear off, the kite still gets the animal. So, let the guy take the ear, so to speak. Here we just This is a picture, by the way. many many pictures. It's just getting better and better. Next volume is going to be even better. I'm going to be more involved in some of these pictures. But you put this in AI and poof, take your ear and and then what happens when he takes the Why should this absolve the cen of his of his of his gift? Why should the cen get the donkey says, "No, it's not in the air. It has to be something that the animal dies right away. Like the [laughter] he the guy owns part of the heart. He owns the lungs. You take that out, the animal's dead. That kind of partnership makes you part from not as much as him dying right away. But something this 18 was one of the pro we learned in something that makes and this we had many times in betray whether or not an animal that's a tra. What's a tra? Not saying you chop off its leg, it's considered a tra. Can he survive? Can he live a full life with that or he will die within 12 months? Sorry. If you say it's not an it's a why he holds that makes him die. If he's not going to live that's so you don't have to come on. Even a traer does that. So that's a but if you hold that lives that's why he has to jump and say no he has to be a partner in something that makes him an is not enough because he might live they said this and this says that what does say even his ear says whatever it is there's When it comes to it's even his ear. If a guy owns the ear of the nok but not thear itself the mother you need that it should be a tra. What's the difference? If you said if it's thear all the guy has to own is a if it's the mother it has to be like the heart. What's the difference? You need the word The mother also has a call. You're right. There's no difference between a mother and a other mother. Whatever it is, they'll say on both you have a stillborn. If a stillborn cannot survive, they still have. So if a stillborn who's not going to live has so this animal that only the ear is owned by a non-Jew, why didn't it have the what comes out of the mother the animal? So we learn not with a but in other words it lives. What does it mean that a a fetus a dead fetus stillborn has gusha? What does it mean for what? They have to bury it. If it has you, you have to bury. You can't treat it with disrespect. Says, I'll tell you the difference still since there's no mixture of any it's pure. So it's still you put a little in your head in this in this animal like once there's a little non in there it's not it does it loses all here take it to wherever you want to take it says story didn't go into he I missed the day over there could you please tell me a little bit what they said if you have a partnership with a nonjew and if you remove that whatever he's a partner in let's say he's a partner in the ear you remove the ear it's a very very small blemish that's enough to say that you're not you're not in if you have a a sheep that gave birth to something that looks like a goat it's a big m and a goat that gave birth to a sheep. Maybe something that looks like this. [laughter] Okay. A sheep with a with a beard. I don't know. Okay, fine. And if the animal that was born looks similar to its mother and something, you are. And it continues. We're going to see in this that when there's a firstborn animal, you have to give it to the ken and the ken has to bring it to the it's very it's a whole thing. But what if it has a what if it's missing in the air? He could just sh it at home. So this that fact that a goat looks like a sheep is enough of a that you could check it at home. The fact that I tell you that it's a small moment in the ear. This is what said that's the the pointed out if you have a moment in the ear that's enough to to say that and not like that has to be you have to own the heart has to own the lungs whatever what is he telling me with that what are you telling me because it's different it looks different if it's mouth something like this this is not exact okay because it's Not the really the mouth is more the nose. But let's say a sheep looks like a pig pig that's considered I already know it's what if if an animal looks different than it's supposed to look that's a massive you know if it looks like this picture over here that looks like there's no but if a sheep looks like a goat and a goat looks like a sheep they both have so maybe I also learned If he has one small eye, one large eye. Now you know why that video is there. Hold on. Hold on. I'm getting there. Explains. If you have a goat, we're talking about a goat now. If a goat looks like a like a like a cow's eye or like a duck's eye, those are both. This fits in what we said. If it's the size of a bird, there's no birds by there's no by by a bird. So that can fit into what your t that oh pig is not. So a duck is not but if his eyes is huge the size of a of a calf is by a calf. The point is since it's different that's a good there's something called the when somebody has two limbs everybody has a lot of people have two limbs like two ears if one is massive one is small there's a boom if somebody has a very long leg and a short leg that's sua long hand everybody the guy with the suits he tried to make me feel good no everybody's hand is a little bit longer on one side okay that's sua so if you One giant eye, one small eye. I said, "You don't see." It's like, "No, I'm just kidding." Same thing. We're talking about the himself. If a person, if a has a even if it's going to go away tomorrow, he can't do today. He has a he can't do it. But a person who has two giant eyes like this Guinness World Record, this is real. What a talent or two very small eyes. Only by a person is it a by an adult because he has to be like a normal descendant of normalize. If his the the animals two eyes are large or both of them small it's not but if one is large one is small it's a problem. Why? If it's because it's different. Two giant eyes. It's not because it's different because the two eyes are also two giant eyes are very different and it's not two very small eyes. You look at it. Wow. What happened there? It's not a m. It's only a m when one is giant or offsiz. Two offs. One is large and one is small. Why? That's called sura. Let's just see the video now. Which one? 46. You said >> 61. >> 46. >> Oh, here. This is a rule. One very long. Got it. is [music] ache. >> [crying and laughter] >> Okay, now you got it. It's interesting. It's so it's very interesting that Gil pointed out that uh the guy that that throws off was so desire says that they search for ishi that has one giant eye and one small eye mish from today's d talking about that and it just fits into the video also [clears throat] the guy that did it didn't know about that he has the the serialized he wants to jump off the the thing but he he h he happens to have one large eye once more that's what desires says that the guy has to have that. Anyways, let's just get to the story. Three more lines. >> Already two in a week. >> Yeah, I'm doing man. That's why I said has it all. It has kabala. It's unbelievable. Shino have a mum. No. The the reason why one large eye and one small eye is a mum. Not because it's this thing called, but because it's a real M. Why? He said, "Oh, if it's a M, so two giant eyes are also a M." How come that's not a M? If if an animal is super super healthy, it's injected with all the good stuff. So might have two giant eyes. Or if he's very weak, he fasted a lot, he'll have very two small eyes. But what in the world? Why would he have one giant eye, one small eye? that shows that it has a defective gene and that's a that's why only one large eye one small see you tomorrow >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world sponsor a shir today mdysponsor.com or [music] sponsor at mdy.com