CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 24 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Oh yeah. Oh. Oh. [music] >> [singing] >> I'm so excited. In 9 weeks over 5 and a half thousand Look, look, look. The P when when the is into it and not this guy talking to this one and this guy when everybody's into it, it sounds so much better. >> For the help of not even move his hand quicker. >> Unbelievable. We're holding on the last last line of that and just to do a quick review what we had Raf says that all the Mishna peric all five six of our peric is like if there's a single name in the Mishna the is like that person if there's a is in the Mishna then we're not going to discuss that so the says says I think that the rabb was falling asleep when he said this it doesn't make any sense It can't be the first Mishna. It can't be the second maybe means our Mishna says that if you purchase an animal from a non-Jew and it's nursing, then you know that that's its offspring. Look at the focus, the spotlight on the second Mishna. No, Kavanaki, we don't need it. Oh, must be this. But the problem is that the Bryo, there's an argument in the Bryce. not in the Mishna but outside of the Mishna there's a bra that somebody argues and Raph said if there's argument we're not going to get into that so we move on maybe it's the next one with which we're going to learn today no can't be oh how about the final one no final one also has so we go back to the it must mean the middle one must be ah no it's not brought in the mission is not considered just outside of the b not a big fight. So it says Rav doesn't repeat himself through if he ever find that Rav repeated himself the rightway jumps on it and tries to explain it away. So since Rav made a statement that is like the single of the Mishna besides So then why why does does it say if you look on we're going to learn it today the first words right after the Mishna where it says is like the Mishna but why he already established and anytime there's a singular tana in a Mishna Allah is like him oh says this is he had to say there's no nothing extra here if we would have only spoken about this that is like the personnel I would think look makes sense that it goes on the fourth so why does say the entire going to learn says two things we'll say about why you're You're not allowed to shear a carbon. We're talking about a bkar. You're not allowed to take a a shaver a haircut machine and give the the bkar a haircut. What if you have to do the and there's a lot of hair over here and you want to separate you want to get to the to the skin which is a normal practice they so that's not considered shearing the hair. What if you want to see a mum? Let's say there's a little something on the ear. It's overloaded with so you pluck it. But it's two separate. I think that's what I meant in the whole perk meaning the two. Look how Yoshi did it. The spotlight is on two. We've looked at the looked. So now once we say that, so now we go back to our Mishna. Our Mishna. We said, "Oh, Ra was referring to our Mishna." No. In this case, we're going to say he's not referring to our mission. Why wasn't he referring to our mission of that looks like if he purchases an animal from a guy and it's nursing that uh you know that she gave birth to this animal? Because it's rabid before we said the price means nothing. Now we're going to say no no price is a price. So what if it's not in the so is like the I would think so. No, no, it's super interesting was referring to our and you should know that is also like in those two cases and what do I see from this because our yes there's an argument that that argument is in a Bryson that doesn't mean anything my what is the B I ask you a question say what does that mean what is it what's The fear means fear. What is what does mean? >> Huh? >> No. >> Trembling. >> No. >> What? What? No said. No is right. >> Means love means but in this context means love. Why am I saying this? Because you'll see the next word. That's what it means. Affection. Love. my prices. So what's the prices that argu what's very important? You purchase an animal from a and we saw the Arab guy, he tells you what you want to hear. If he thinks that you want an animal that never gave birth, he tells you this animal never gave birth. If he thinks that you want an animal that gave birth, he could change his mind within the same sentence. So how can I trust him? So but this animal comes along with a little nursing baby. So you're going to assume says Since it has a nursing animal, oh, she's the mother, it's her baby from the next the next pregnancy. Nokar. Who argues on that? This exact case you purchase an animal that's nursing from an could be it's could be it's not. I'm not certain that it's not a why she loves this new animal. She could love an animal without even giving birth it. She could adopt an animal and if she adopts an animal, she'll start nursing. So the fact that this animal's nursing is not a that she she b them. I have a it's a big problem. You can't just go ahead and eat it. It's a says here's no nursing nursing. There's a reason why she's nursing. She she could all of a sudden decide here we even have a video >> a cow choosing to adopt a calf that's not her own. >> So what happens? But comes along and he argues that's of our Mishna. No, we have that this cow already gave birth and therefore the next offspring from this cow is not a 100% not a says I have a I don't know it could go both ways. Says no. Let me ask you something. If you have >> you gave birth and this is the Vlad or this one already gave birth and therefore no >> no this is the Vlad this >> this is it this is it I know that this is it there's no other way she doesn't she doesn't adopt she's not adopting and we're going to see but but the the says even if she never gave birth she never this cow never gave birth she we've seen that they would adopt a another cow a calf and start nursing Her body would start producing milk because she adopted a cow. Means that these are sheep that this is the first time they're giving birth. He knows the sheep. He had them since they were babies. First first time the old days. It's a mess. It's something like this. So the question is did the girls do the girls go with the ones that never gave birth and the boys go with the ones that gave birth or the opposite? In other words, do we have a problem with over here or what do we do? So he says you find the all the males all what should bear they're on the side of the the women the sheep that already have children and therefore they are not abkar he got out of allar im from everything has 15 animals giving birth it just so happened to be all the males lined up with the ones that already have children offspring and all the females to the new the new the new mothers and a mother gives birth to a female and we have that a mother nurses her own child and that's it is saying by the way we have we who do we pass or the what do we do? So I'll remind you once I say it you remember that one. >> So we'll see we'll see soon. We always say what does it mean that the mother only goes with her child is she only loves only has affection to offspring only if she gives birth and therefore this is hers. But once she gave birth maybe once she gave birth she she will show affection. Oh for sure in the past if she gave birth in the past we're concerned that maybe she'll adopt says let's think about it for a second. [snorts] This this cow, this sheep is potter from Bkar. Why? Either it's her vlad. She gave birth to it. So there's no more next time or somebody else's. But she gave birth. We're saying she gave birth in the past and she adopted this one. It's not hers, but she gave she gave birth in the past. She doesn't there's noar. So for this particular animal, you're never going to give a bkar. Either it's hers, it's her own baby or it's somebody else's baby, but she gave birth to a different baby once upon a time because she had to give birth in order for her to adopt another baby. So, so what is this? The mother and the offspring in the same day. Who told you it's her offspring? If you know for certain you have a kazak that this is her offspring because she'll never nurse somebody else's baby then you give this guy Malchus but if you don't know you know Chad GB says sometimes they do adopt sometimes they don't adopt now you're the bez you can't give this guy Malcus you don't know you could you prove that this is not her that that this is her son maybe it's not her son if you say that's a it's a it's a it's a rule she'll will never love and have affection for somebody else's offspring, then you have to give this guy Malus because obviously this is hers and but if it's possible that she could adopt another sheep. So how you going to give this guy a mother and son? It's not her son. Maybe it's somebody else's son. Prove it. What do we do? You're not that she's going to adopt another kid that she's going to love another another animal. She says, "Oh, so you see she doesn't adopt someone else." Who? We're not referring to this particular one. We're talking about we have to be that once upon a time she gave birth. talking about her that she once upon a time gave birth then for that I don't have to be our he saw the sheep that never gave birth he sees them all of a sudden nursing and the ones that never gave birth I'm sorry the ones that gave birth in the in the past in other words they have kids already they're all nursing says says you see like the first what that they don't switch they don't adopt other other offspring they stick to their own maybe she she took uh compassion on on that little sheep over there and she started nursing not her own so the very very simple makes a lot of sense what the says when she has her own to take care of. She's not going to take somebody else's to adopt. It's when she has nothing to do. She has nothing better to do. And she says case, then she'll adopt. But but she has her own to take. It says we have all these the 10, the 15 means let's compare the ratio to the that's what understands the ratio. And similarly in another case tells me that the ra the same when there's a lot of animals the 10 15 you say oh no every mother sticks to her offspring. So too when there's one animal it's 100% hers who told you that that's the no the are not the same. So why does it say the word means the same they are the same the same of that they from oh there's an interesting idea you see you see a a pig nursing from a sheep so there's two things that could have happened there either a pig got in here and started nursing from a sheep >> he's being a he's being a pigma >> or it could be a nidma Exactly. Meaning a neb was born looking like a So we're going to assume it's a meaning it was born from a sheep. The sheep the mother is from but this is very interesting. The next words are oh if you can assume that it comes from a sheep. So make a nice steak out of it. Why can't you eat it? [snorts] You have to wait until comes. So what? Ask it's a question. What's going on? Why are you say a mother goes with its baby? Okay, this is hers. So the second one that comes along is no. But why? Why can't you eat it? You should be able to eat it. Well, all of a sudden now you go like in the beginning say you go jump to say maybe it's not hers and what happened there she just adopted according to you could adopt well what are you waiting for for what that he's going to give you what does mean he's going to teach you it's not about we just want to know is this her baby or not her baby what does it have to do with is it a nidma or is it adopted until you know what happened there. Not maybe I just don't know. First I'm going to say it's not a but maybe is like and therefore we have a we have a suffix. So you can't you can't eat this animal because we have a tour. It should be not a big difference between a you go or I can go ahead and eat it. I can't eat it. Wait until the whole thing. Why? Why do you have a question who is like we know who is like any we're not going to go into it but we have a a chart here means that the you could uh because the the could take from from from more than usual is when a guy's getting divorced says on on condition that you give me back my coat And she she pays for the code. She doesn't give the actual code. Is that okay? And then he has a riot different riot that he never we didn't know about. But he pull out another rioton. So we know that unless it's these three cases. It's not one of these three cases. So we know that Allah is like him. No, we know that over here we have a different not if we don't know what himself holds. We don't know if holds that animal that once gave birth will adopt. So again, so would she adopt even if she didn't give birth or not? But when it comes to of course, so why are you telling me a case of a sheep nursing? Let's talk about a sheep nursing another another sheep and do we say for sure this is her offspring and therefore you get for both of them in one day or not so there's a special I think I skipped the video hold one second oh this one no we have a we have a big what we have a sheep nursing Okay, I could understand that an animal adopts another animal but because it's the same type but maybe if it's another species. So this is a very famous mice that happened we found it. This is a story where a leopard ate a baboon ate it >> but instead bite to the neck >> there's a baby left over. >> They didn't know what to do. They got confused. >> She didn't know how to react. Lakadima's eyes never left the baby for hours. And strangely, this newborn started following her everywhere, reaching out to her grow within her at that moment. >> So says, "But maybe maybe it won't adopt another another species. Look, you have here. So maybe it does adopt another species. was a big our case you see nursing from what do you do what's the question if he's asking is the following offspring that no it's obvious it's not a because a mother will never adopt another [clears throat] offspring or maybe it we don't know it's a suffic So why you talking about asked the question about two questions here? He asked a question about can you is this a according to can you eat it according to what does that mean even according to say that there's a concept that one animal will nurse will adopt another animal that's only a cow to cow but not to another same story we had a second ago but not and the fact means it is its species perhaps no it's not diet. She could she could adopt. And what's the question? Even if you say that this is 100% this offspring is hers cuz she'll never adopt. So, but that's only in in her own species. Perhaps that's why it's definitely her her offspring. Perhaps she will adopt another species. You want to sh an animal you're not allowed to shear its wool. So you take the cleaver and with the the sharpness of the cleaver you shave the neck in that area. And this really is every not only once the hair comes off, don't start gathering the hair with your fingers because then people are going to think that you actually wanted the hair. You're just showing that you need the room for the you need a literally and the same thing is you're moving removing here. >> Yeah. >> Becomes the hair that you pulled off. >> No, no, no. You're you becomes you're you're you have a is to to share it. I'm not saying it's you have is to share, but once you touch it, you're showing that you're sharing it, >> right? By not touching, you're showing that you didn't shear it. You just did it for >> once you share that area that you need it, that hair becomes awesome. >> No, you don't want to be of Giza. >> He's asking what >> I know. I know what he's asking. Besides that, there's Giza. You're not giza by by just using a cleaver. Once you grab it, then you're giza. >> Next step. >> Next step. Okay. I don't know. Ask the I don't know. >> I don't I don't know the answer. I think didn't we have it? How long? You're allowed to move the You're allowed to scrape away some hair so you can check. Are you allowed to do the same thing on a regular carbon not a carbon a regular animal? What's the question? When you pluck the hair that's not considered and it should be also because you just you're you're removing something that that that's growing there. did the same. Plucking is like shearing it with a with a shaver. Interesting. It's not obication because basically you're you're just trying to move the hero side. It happens to be like in that video. That's maybe what he's trying to show that some comes off. So that would be okay. Go ask me if he tells you that then I'll tell you what is only is like. 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