CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 21 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. [screaming] >> You think that's a You haven't been to some of those Hebrews. I think they can do better. Let's do it again. >> If you would help out a little bit. You ready? Here we go. Here we go. Good morning, Ra Boy. [screaming] 25%. [laughter] >> Wow. >> Tremendous tremendous uh sim last night. MDY threw that people paid to come 350 people. There was fresh flowers on the table like long. It was mish. The food was out of this world. And it turns out that the caterer he does the daf. >> Two partners. >> Two partners do the da. And it was excellent, excellent food. We had Yi Dickman playing the music. And then we had put away speech. Beautiful speech. He got me to tear up. It's a beautiful speech spoke in Hebrew. >> [music] >> very very good. This might be the first time that a suga from beginning to end is completely animated. Mamesh there's 92 slides. 92. It might be a record and I'm not even going to show all of it. will fly through them. It's very very cool. There's a grandmother goat who gave birth to three daughters. Three * 3 equals 9. She had three daughters and those three daughters gave birth to three each. We're talking about Meister Bahima. The rule of Maurima is that in order for the sheep or the goats to go out of the barn, they must be born in the same year. You open up the door, one goes out to the 10th. You say 10th, it becomes kadesh. But they have to be born in the same year. What's the year? Here you have a situation where the mother who is not born in that year. She gave birth to three goats. Let's say on alflo [clears throat] these goats have to mature a little bit and then they get pregnant and then they give birth. The pregnancy lasts for 5 months. They give birth to three goats each. It's possible that in one year there's there's there's enough to do just the problem is each one gave birth to three that's nine. They themselves is another three that's 12. All you need is 10. So why why do we why do we have a case of 12? You don't we don't need 12. The says you're right. You don't need 12. So then why do you say a case where they give birth to three three. So here's the story animated. Here we go. Here we go. One grandmother gave birth to three goats and each goat had three babies. We have >> We have [snorts and laughter] We have 12. The whole thing's anime. This is like kids in get this. So all you need is 10. Really? Why do you need 12? [clears throat] >> 12. Why? Hold on. I don't want to go too fast. Oh, even if we take off two, like one had three and the other ones had twins, you still get to 10. Keep it consistent. >> So says, oh, that's basically the cash and answer very, very simple. I saw this with my own eyes. I saw one female goat give birth to three. Then she gave birth to a bunch. And altogether there was enough to do within one year there was 10 offspring asking to say that all three gave birth to three one of them give birth to three and the other two give birth to two but one of them needs three. That one needs three cuz if you take off one from there, you're only going to be down to nine. So since mish big stuff here since that one needs three, I'm putting all three back. Give Valdik, you got it. You got it. It's good. >> Okay, good. >> Do it again. [clears throat] >> That was We're holding at slide 47. 47. We're making progress here. Askar need three. Each one should give birth to two. Take a look. You need to see this. They only give birth to two. So, how many do we have here? >> Nine. So, we're going to get the 10 from the mother. The mother should have one more birth. >> No, not the same answer. Oh, cuz it's it's probably more difficult to give birth to triplets. That's already 20. Remember just a few days ago we had thousands of people that joined us. I don't know how many are left but thousands joined. 20 days ago. So this has everything to do with the story that we learned yesterday. Tino, some sort of We're going to see actually today what Tino is or [clears throat] Tino. Where's the picture of Tino? Until you find something here in the 90 different slides. Wow. Okay, Tino. This is Tino. You see some puddle of something. It could be it's some sort of afterbirth, some sort of um miscarriage. So you see from here that if this this brings it right to what we discussed yesterday the reason why it doesn't mention a case where the mother had triplets and then in the same year she had another birth is because you see that once there some sort of birth even a simple birth of a of a miscarriage she cannot give birth again that year it's not a good no it's possible that If you have a miscarriage, you could give birth that that year. But in this case, maybe the reason why it doesn't bring you this vad. But if she has a real birth, not a miscarriage, a fullterm birth, a five months pregnancy for it to get pregnant again and have another how do you call it a litter, another litter by by by goats also that it's not it's not a it's not a good ria. It's not a ri whether or not tino is is considered a full birth. You can't do it twice in the year because maybe over here it's different. The reason why we don't talk about the mother is because real births don't count. Ord we just said I saw with my own eyes. He says I saw >> it's a it's a very interesting thing. It is >> kidding. >> It's called kidding. Wow. I saw with my own eyes. It's interesting to see generations like you know for human beings it takes had boom boom boom but 100 years in one year triplets had triplets and you were able to do mothers and children all in one in one thing what's the difference says this is basically a freebie not only is it a short it's everything we discussed us yesterday. But we have all these charts. We might as well use them. Somebody worked hard on them. Here we go. After 6 months on the last day of six of the sixth month, there was ten there's some sort of something miscarriage. Now the question ziri holds that ten lasts for 30 days. Last is a physical thing. for a full month she she doesn't accept the zah or maybe not she does could she get pregnant in the in month seven. So let's say she cannot [clears throat] so therefore you have exactly 5 months and that's the time of a goat pregnancy is exactly 5 months. So if she got pregnant on the final day of month seven, when she could when could she possibly give birth? On the final day of month five? >> 12. >> 12. Yeah. After 5 months. The final day of month 12. Thank you. Was paying attention. >> So the question is the whole is could she five months later she gave birth. The question is could she give did she give birth on final day of month 12 or all throughout month 12? If you don't hold up you could also give birth in the beginning of month 12 [cough] in the beginning of month seven. So again the mit like didn't like yesterday. So he holds you can only give birth the only over here and again we're talking about a year of micer you could only you could only do mister with animals that were born within the year have to be exact. Is it possible for a litter for a kitting to give birth to more kittings within the same year and put them all in the barn and let them out the door? Yeah, it's possible on the last day according to the Tanakama and according to Shim, it's possible the whole last month. You don't have to be wow with the microscope and start counting days. You have a 30-day window over there for it to happen. Actually, let me ask you a question. It's a super interesting question. What do you do with this uh with the kiddies, the this guy that comes out the door, the number 10, what do you do with him? What do you do with him? He's miser. And then what what do you do with him? >> You bring your wearing question. Could you bring him on that day to be answer? >> No. >> Absolutely not. Why not? >> Eight days. >> So maybe it's not. Maybe you can't do messer. How can you do messer with him? How can you do messer? It's after the year. You can only bring this eight days later. So what if he was born today? Why is he part of the 10? So I don't know if that's a concern or not. Maybe maybe he doesn't have to go to this. Maybe just you count them. You wait 8 days. You wait patiently. That's on the bottom of the Oh, so we have it's three words. But there's a whole bunch going on here again. They saw a on the last day on the final day of six, not in the first day. Final day of six. So then the question is month seven. Could she get pregnant? Yes or no? Zer says no. Tak says yes. And therefore, if she got pregnant on the final day of month seven, according to Ziri, the only possible day of her giving birth within the year is the final day of month 12. All of that in those three words, sorry. Everybody agrees she cannot get pregnant on month seven. The question is, can she give birth prior to to the end of month five? Is it possible that you know so people that live with goats they'll know but whatever we have to understand what's going on here the mats exactly could she give birth today we know that women give birth early but the time of the is a big problem like they didn't and if they did the child was not viable whole thing no When could she give birth? Only on day last day of the year. She could give birth prior to the end of the pregnancy. Five. And what was the shil? I'll just remind the 271. But if you do the math, 9 months times 30 days is 270. So what's 271? A woman only gives birth the day after the 270. So to an animal only gives birth the day after the five months. Do we go with this? Anybody? No. It's not even a question. It's always full term at least for the majority or whatever. Do we say here we just continue going here? Wow. imam and she went all out this slow-mo but this I told them that it's it's very good for like a little bit more of a complicated do the whole animated like this where it's makes it super super simple you have to look at all the little details he puts in here mixes in cool not mix okay so we're talking about almost on the last day see just 3 hours in it's as if it already happened no >> do we say that the whole a Half a day is is considered a whole day and the fact that she was born on the half day, it's already considered the next year. So it's not it's not good for [snorts] A little part of the day is like the whole day. It's exactly. Check this out. If this animal born on the final day, is it considered micer? Yes, it's within the year, but you can't bring it to the you have to wait 8 days. So perhaps it cannot be part of the 10. Oh, and we have a says whether or not whether or not an animal that you cannot bring on the is it still counted for the micer you can't put on and we actually learned it's not a problem so the final day born on the final day is good for I can't put it on. It's fine. Why? It's literally like a what is like a firstborn animal. Firstborn animal it becomes that minute that it's born [snorts] it gets ah you can't put it on. It's fine. it becomes before it has the ability to go says we compare to on day one but you can't put it on until day eight it doesn't matter you see it's not an issue oh so now this is important asking we [clears throat] have two options we have micer in the in the middle >> and we have micer And we have Bkar on the right. We just said we're comparing Ma to Bkar. This is a classic. Why are you comparing to Bkar? Because it's similar to Bkar in four different simple ways. But guess what? You can also compare Meister to Kachum to any kind of carbon. And a regular carbon you can't make it a carbon until say old. Why is Meister not like a regular carbon like you have to wait until say old? Oh no. Meister like you could do it right away. Maybe mutin and in fact it was four against two. I get it but it's four against four. It's four up. What do you do when it's four up? You need a tiebreaker [cough and clears throat] says if I'm going to learn from maybe learn I'm sorry from learner from says [cough] [clears throat] you cannot redeem you can't redeem me but you could redeem any kchum if let's say you have a katus you that it has a mum, you you can redeem it. The other thing is mum. If an animal has a mum, you can't make a kadesh. We had a whole story about it a few days ago. You have an animal that has no leg whatever can't make it. It doesn't work. The k doesn't work. What will it become? This is butar becomes kadesh with the tumor and tumor. We know what tumor is. [snorts] Just in case somebody doesn't know what is tumor is when you look at an animal that you made as a carving and said this animal is a carving. You take another animal it's even nicer and better than it. You said this one should be instead of this one it's turra. What happens? They both become kadesh. Could you put both of them on? Well, if it's akar, no. But if it's Yes. So is like is like in that case. So we have another similarity between there's a third similarity between. And finally if there's a tokar or to you could eat them. The owner could eat it. But let's say you bring let's say you bring you [snorts] can't eat it until you do what you redeem it in order to eat you need to redeem. So we have four okay four things that are similar to says but similar to a regular carbon and also four things you could use you could do a carbon from anything from a from it doesn't have to be a >> yeah but one at a time >> yeah yeah is number two oh my here my my chart is not is only in the bottom Okay. >> Obviously, it's based on something is that it's it's not >> you could do it on any on on on a simple animal is born second, third, fourth is only a male. Abkar is born messer is not regular kachum are not messer doesn't have to be a zar messer could be from the second animal doesn't have to bear is a gift to the kener and are not so what do we do when we have four against four you could compare mar to the kship so what do we do so we're going to compare here because of the main here's a nice little there's one that says and it says it's the same which go past go through I decide that is similar to and not similar to regular what is This like the the shepherds say that in they say this the womb is plugged up within even though it's said with the al if and they and [clears throat] the explained that it's it's actually an explanation there are bubbles of blood that that's what that's what it looks says the you have to you have to show it to to ask the a question that a lot makes a lot of people uncomfortable. In other words, we're talking about goats here. We're talking about a miscarriage [snorts] of goat. How would a know what that looks like? That's not his that's not his area. It's not his area of expertise. Oh, we're not talking about a we're talking about shepherd. We have we have a live video of what a shepherd means. It's a little different what you think. [laughter] Yeah. Okay. Another brand new we know and this is obviously you don't pass from the you go to but if there's a miscarriage does it affect the thear if there's another there's a birth afterwards there's a birth afterwards do we do opinion on that first now the question is was it a viable pregnancy before well by a woman we say the cuto off day is 40 40 days before 40 days nothing garnished. I wrote here something about need. She's not a nida. Okay, fine. This is from my the last cycle [cough] but more than 40 days it's a viable birth. There's no what's the what's the color of day by I mean the pregnancy is much shorter 5 months versus 9 months. So when when is it v Isn't that and we know the answer is not what Ziri said. We we had Ziri twice, yesterday and today. Isn't that what Ziri said? In other words, it takes 30 days to develop uh this embryo, whatever it's called. Says, "No, no, no. Z is talking about after she has this miscarriage. Is she going to mate within 30 days?" That's the 30 days. There something else. Will she become pregnant in those 30 days following the tino minoy? We saw the galica video when you buy an animal from the and he thinks he want one that never had a child. He lies. What if you buy from a Jew? You buy from a Jew. Could you trust him? He didn't he didn't even say anything. Nothing garish. He He's quiet. Could he say that? Oh, he's quiet. It's a It's not a It is a What's going on? So, we have a three-way. The typical we have we have says is 100% says 100% and then we have something in between says 100%. Why? Wouldn't somebody selling you an animal tell you, "Oh, you have nothing to worry about. This animal already gave birth." Why is that a So, the first thing that comes to mind is why is it a great thing to say that >> cuz then you get to keep it. Those who did the daff yesterday know that there's another that the animal brings it down. It's rationing somewhere else. First of all, so this is simple. Simple. I don't want to give my first born. I'm going to sit here, spend all this time with this animal, and then I have to give the first born to. It's better for me that just already had one. Now I get everything starting from here on is mine. There's another shot because animals could die during child birth. And once she gave birth, just like the humans also once she did this, she went through it, it's much easier the second time. So he's telling him, forget about even tell this to other go clients. They don't have say listen this is already this one gives this is a proven animal this she gives birth every day like the guy said every day she gives birth three times a day four you like that one no says I don't know you know why the owner of this Jew was quiet he thought you want to make a steak out of it he's not going to tell you gave birth didn't give birth you're taking it to right I'm telling you 100% because if it's if she didn't give birth, you're talking about another Jewish person, another fumid. He wouldn't warn you. He wouldn't tell you, "Hey, you got an issue here. You better be careful. If she ever gives birth, remember it goes to the cayenne. He has to warn a normal guy. He's going to warn you." >> We learned in Poland that they would warn about ospanel. >> Oh. Oh, very good. You see what you do it? I'll put it right now. Huh? Says maybe, maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. Says, we'll see in a second here. Let's just see this real quickly here. Take a look. Raph says it's understood. Why? Look, two ears, two and the tail included. The owner would tell you that had a kid before. She says, "I don't know. Maybe you think that it's first steak." >> Ribs or brisket say a person warns you. >> I must warn you, she snores. If there was anything else, I'd tell you. Oh, I have arrived from from it says by what's this is great I I like this video here we go you have to you have to wait a full day you can't you can't chef the mother and her and her child on the same day [cough] so what happens when you buy a baby cow so it says over there A Jewish seller will tell you, will warn you, hey, I just sold the mother to Ruain. I'm selling you to somebody else, the offspring. Do not check the offspring today cuz she's going to say, we said this four times of the year, whatever. Ravish say that by being quiet, [clears throat] it's not a it's not a riot over here. By being quiet, it shows it's a that I want you I I he would have warned you beforehand says no has to do with the seller only the seller knows if there's a mother involved if it's possible to shut the mother by somebody else and you the but when it comes to this is up to the so the when the the seller is quiet it doesn't mean anything to us have Wonderful day. M Shab is 10:00 at Lut in followed by 11:00 for Hebrew. You're still not going to sleep any earlier. [music and singing] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy.com.