CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 18 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. Welcome welcome to all the guests. Today's this was this could two people press something that simultaneously will come out to the same exact millisecond even more like a millionth of a second. There's two is is harder to understand but says I want to do it. Is it even possible? Let's say it's on top of three lines down. We have a nice This by the way is the picture in our gar which is nicer than any other gar in the world. But this is the updated one. >> Wow. >> Wow. this nice and dark. And this So here's the here's our new video. [screaming] >> Zoom out. Ah, [music] he stepped right over the body. It's unbelievable. That's the fidita that goes by the nose. >> No, it was there. Yes, I know. I didn't notice it either. >> Okay. If you find a body between two cities, if you as you measure and the closest city must bring a calf, bring it down to and they do. But if it was exactly between two cities, they wouldn't they wouldn't do the whole thing. They wouldn't do the whole. No, there's you could get it very very exact and therefore if you get it very exact and we're going to see soon he learns in the and even two cities doesn't necessarily mean a singular city can mean even two you could do on two calves I don't think anybody ever thought that until we got here you do two calves for one dead person now I just had a problem me my own personal one I don't have a great answer for it it's like if you're talking about milliseconds you're talking about the birth of two calves I get that it's very very hard to be but we are going to the guy's nose or his stomach is you go to to the naval to you go to the nose so why can't you get to the nose like each one >> pulling it as >> oh that's that's what I was saying as you pulling it as times of how to measure because I'm measure. >> No is a mill is a is exactly the center of the mbah which is less than a millimeter but over here you have a whole nose. Look how big my nose is. You got all this. I can go up there and up there and I'm still I still hit the nose. It's not a milliliter. It's the center of the nose. >> That's exactly the question maybe. >> No, it's to the nose. >> Okay. So whether you don't do it at all, please remember this. You don't do it at all. According to it's either all or nothing. All meaning two or zero. Nobody says one over here. You you can't get it exact. And Rashi sticks in. So each city says it's not us. It's not me. You think we we had somebody that died here? No way. And says yes, you could you could be and if you could be it could be exact. And therefore you have to bring two. What's going on? If it's impossible. So at least bring one. Let them bring one calf and make a simple tonight. If it's our city, we're bringing it. If it's your city, you own it and you're bringing it. It's possible to get it exact. Even in the harder case of when you're having it's possible in fact at the end of the [clears throat] according to the it's impossible. It's impossible to get two things at the same exact time. And says it is possible. Just it's such a far-fetched thing. It's one in a million that we don't even it's considered as if it never happens. >> Yeah. Very big is how to learn the says meaning one single city can do it. You can't have two cities that are that are close to the body. voice. It only it's only one. So you could be if you could be but so at the end of the day if it's says If if we find a body between two cities, we know this. We never saw yet. What do we say before? >> Oh, you thought it's a No, it's not. It's not. He's saying that I'm saying the wrong. [clears throat] >> It's not a it's a tonight. >> So maybe saying it's here. Okay. Now ask the Wait a minute. How can you make it tonight? How can you say, "Oh, if it's from the city, the the calf comes from the from city A. If it's from city B, the dead person from city B. You could get it exact. Wait a minute. It's so if you get exact and the tells you could even bring from two cities. Why don't they bring two? Why one? But if you learn from the P that it can only be from one city, not from two. That's what we said all the way in the beginning. Say I told you to remember there's only two. Either you bring two or zero. It's all or nothing. All of a sudden now you're telling me to bring one. What do you see from what happened? You cannot get it exact. Even when people are trying to get it exact, it doesn't work. So what do we have? We have in the Mishna the great case of two males born to this sheep [clears throat] cow that never gave birth before. And so you know that only So what do you do? You give so one of them is the so give one to the and one to the owner. So says the gets the better one. What happened? They're mine. So you you want it take take what do you mean? Why does the get the better one says there this logic over here that the stronger of the two the the larger one the stronger one he's going to come out first comes out first he's the he's thear it goes to the kite the the garra remember this the gumar is going to say that he he regretted this he took it back he retracted okay we'll see soon because when you have two that came out so says The word mishim now if you just read it with a simple meaning reading it say mish means you take the fat and you divide the fat meaning one is worth 500 one is worth a th00and you take the fat the the difference the 500 and you split it he the gets 250 and the gets 250 it's not how it works means you take the fat one and you take the fat one you the owner take the fat one We It says in the you split it. Wow. Which is a very very strong. >> It's like you know we went through people are sending all these videos. You see the kdes in in in New York is like seven carving stations meat piled up guys sitting and carving bars. Imamish saw rangon in your gashmas. You're eating it. But says you're eating a date. You're the dates from from bubble and you think you know we're in a different world now. The dates we're talking about the sushi stations and the this and the that seven types. No in Lawrence is a I heard that seven types of cho like shouldn't say the name of the city. No play five towns. They don't like when you call five towns. Seven types of ch What do you think you're doing? You're eating those gishmak dates in Bville and give me until you finish your date. We already one of the I said this. It's that I'm not going to go. He said you guys in America, you're eating pizza and you're going to tell us what to do here in you know what I'm saying. M it's the same kind of lo and you got it from over here. You're in bubble. Why? What's the problem? Cuz when you eat a lot of gashmas, you eat a lot of smoked meat. It it hurts you from from learning. It takes away from them. I already explained this whole thing. One of the two. You had two two sheep over here. One of them died. Let's do what do you mean? This one who said that my me the owner mine died. Maybe it's yours that died. You prove it. You claim If you think the is that you divide it perfectly. So in this case also when there's one left split it down the middle the gets 50% gets 50%. So you must say over here when there's two when there's two left so the goes on the you get the the you get the skinny one I get the fat one if there's only one I get the one and you get zero and that's the chuma means I take the fat I take all the fat you take all the skinny who gets the nice fat one. He can't eat it right away. Why can't he eat it right away? Perhaps it's a it's a you can't eat a bkar. So what do you do on the if it's great that's why you get it? But if it's if it's you can't eat it. So you have to send it to Kevland. You let make sure it gets a nice and then and also you have to give the gifts that you typically give from a from a animal you give to the co says no gifts my time why is he gift the attacks him from both sides it's a it's a great this bad guy that you're looking yet. Give it to me. It's mine. So he says, "No, it's not yours. It's mine." Oh, it's yours. It's It's not a So then give me the gifts that you give from Hulen. The gifts I for sure get either I get the whole thing 100% or I get 20% of the gifts. But you can't say you don't give me anything. Once again, this is I believe that cuz I had the question which coin can say such a so it's the whole the whole the whole say this in other words the >> entity called >> the entity called because it's you owe the at least says it's not you are Let's see this upgraded video here. [clears throat] >> Where are we? Oh, so now why is it's a great it's a great uh over here or come from both sides. They say give us if not the whole animal give us at least the gifts. Let me just say about what's going on there. is two animals. The cayenne gets a small animal and the isro gets a large animal. We're going to pretend that the cen acquired the animal and he sold it to the Isro. He acquires the large animal because holds that even if you didn't like really acquire it, if you have you're about to acquire, it's as if you acquired it already. He acquired the large animal and he sold it to the Israel for what? For the small animal. The isel gave him a small animal. There's a there's a there's a transaction here says it wasn't you get the small one, you get the large one. What happened was the Israel purchased the large one from the Cayenne through giving him the small one. Yeah, make sense. And what did I gain by that? If there's a transaction, you don't you don't give matanis on a transaction. The whole way these troll got the large animal wasn't that he got he deserved it. He bought it off the kayen. He bought it off the kayen. Then you know you for say inside [clears throat] now it's a better time to show the video. Now even though the never received anything is as if the got the large one. Is and he sold it off to the bum because and from I real quick again talking about so a lot of people pushed it off to today they didn't start yet so I'm talking to them and I looked in my I wrote it down last year the whole from beginning of graious to the end if you just read it normal takes under 14 minutes under 14 minutes the first aliyah which is a very very long. Aliyah takes 3 minutes and 20 seconds. 320. It's not such a such a big event. You could do the whole entire thing in one day. 14 minutes. Oh, listen to this. This whole idea only works if there's two animals. There's a transaction. I give you the small one and in return you give me the large one. But what if there's only one animal? What's the case? In the Mishna we had a case there was only one one that a male and a female were born together and we don't know which one was born first. So now you don't have a transaction in that case. There's no transaction. No transaction. You destroy you grab whatever's left over. One animals left there. One zar on that zari agrees that the come to him and they say there's a you why because the didn't sell that animal. These soldiers got it because that was it. was uh that was the uh the default man. Who who's this doesn't like this? Of course, it's who else could it be? Who's what is the one that said this whole that the p the is purchased the larger one from the from the from the Israel that whole we pretend that he already acquired it and he sold it. Obviously he's not going to say this when there's only one animal. perhaps the logic is different because he's saying that I'm concerned that if he gives the gifts he gives to the people going to say that it's a regular mundane animal regular animal who what kind of animal do you have to give gifts regular oh maybe I could shear its wool I could work him in the field so the zer over here maybe that's the And maybe I have the same concern even when there's only one animal and you shouldn't give the because people are going to think they can work it. Now you can't work it. Why can't you work it? Cuz maybe it's a you can't work it. We don't know. It's a 50/50. Pay attention to the because we're going to have the same the same over again. How do you say such a thing about how do you say that the the problem is that maybe people will work it? No, it's because of if there's two born it says the idea has to do with says he was talking to her mayor class I hold is another problem this is that people might work it might cheer its wool but I'm talking to you let me use some logic let me knock some logic into your head wait a minute don't you have your like uh the coin the the coin purchase is the larger animal from this row. Will they remain in line? No, that's not what happened over here. Oh. Oh, this is what sufficer. [music] >> I love the the deal is unbelievable. The point is number 10. He calls him 10. But before I had a chance to give him any red, what happens? [music and singing] >> [laughter] >> and he runs in and now he gets mixed in with the rest. >> It's beautiful. >> So he becomes a suffic. What do you do? You have to stop taking miser. He's done. There's no more counting. Now they all become a suffic. They all become a suffic. But you can't eat you can't eat any of your any of your animals cuz they might be micer. And micer you have to bring. What's messer? What do you do with messer? Meer the 10th one. You yourself the owner. You take it to your slime. It's like mister sheni. You eat your own animal in your m then you could eat it anywhere. So what you do is you wait until it has a all of them. Anyone you can't you can't eat any of them until they have a [clears throat] so you don't have to give any gifts to the It might be says in our mission over here he says you from mayor won't hold the same the same idea. There's no there's no either you give me the whole give me the it's the same time. So something similar to what we said mameish a few minutes ago. I so so the question again is why why you say that it's posit we're going on the why you have to tell me it's no because I think that there's another here there's something called like one of the I think one of the reasons why they didn't want that whole beakua farm in Australia because you're going to forget how to do you forget that there's something called a traa you're going to forget this that you have to do eventually you know you do one generation two generations people are not going to know there's such Yeah, I heard 100 years ago. So maybe so I would say that I'm concerned that people are going to forget about this whole about the whole matus that that's not the reason but how can you say that that there was even such a doubt that that there's there's a that people are going to forget the matas but look at the same thing like we had on top of the on top of the almond of the the concern over here is that there's a you're coming from both sides. You're coming the uh the small one and and he g the the isol bought it off of him. That's the idea. Not because I'm concerned that people are going to forget about you know he says no perhaps says even when you have a m you have to give so why do you only argue when the small animals by the large [snorts] even though has a good nevertheless reason. So that's why he argued in that case but in fact he might be arguing he might hold also in the case of that's why it's not at the end of the day why is it not because I could say that holds a hold okay so again we have two males that were born to a sheep or to a cow that never gave birth four. [clears throat] So, one of them died. What do you do? Ask the based on the logic that we said. Didn't you say that you could tell? You have a way of telling which one was born born first. We could see whether or not the is the one that died. How if the heavier giza one died? So, you know that he came out first. So if he came out first because he's stronger, it goes to the guy who goes to the has a loss here and the one that's left over is the owner. And if the little skinny guy dies, so he's the second one that was born because it goes by strength. So these had a loss here and the one that's left over the why can't using the same logic he said retracted that that idea. In other words, you can never tell which one was born first based on his size and his strength. Listen to this. have a muscle retirement. Very nice muscle. Two people gave two sheep. Ruven gave one sheep. Shim gave another sheep to the shepherd. It's a sh and then one of them dies. And now it's a terrible story. The shepherd looks around. Which one? Who got what? What's which one died? He doesn't know. He takes he calls him for a meeting. In the middle of the meeting, he pulls out a sheep. He puts it on the table and he runs for his life. let them figure it out. Says, "No, the different but attention over here is going to ask if is this mush and is this mus." So, they're not really arguing. They're talking about two different stories. The owner actually has one sheep himself. He has one sheep in in his thing. You give him one and then one dies. Oh, here there's a video asking if if there's two different cases. One is that this two two sheep came from two different places. One is that this one might ple you. What exactly is they might agree to each other in this in this? It's two different cases. No. And then if if the the shepherd got from two separate people, he puts it down and he runs away. And if it's one that gave one sheep but the owner already had one by him and that everybody agrees also agrees what is the sheep is in the scrolls yard it's and the shepherd is a do we compare it to story one or do we compare to story two The Israel gave a he says whatever happens here with the it's yours through my make a there's always that question you walk into you see somebody's fillin are you allowed to wear is fillin are you allowed to use somebody's gar says somebody's name so the the is that people want you to do a mitzvah not so I don't know what fill maybe they're not going to fill maybe they're not going to gar if you don't ruin You don't you don't bend the pages. A person wants a mitzvah to be done with his with his objects with his. So over here also you the isel wants thear to happen and he wants the to acquire it. It's like the story that the could grab. That's great when there's no monetary loss. But over here if the if the sheep becomes the kay then the owner the loses out he's not anything to him. So then it's more like the other case of one object have a wonderful day. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy.com.