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[Music]
Garbio Kfar Al-Busti
[Cries of encouragement]
It is not obvious to me that Mordechai will be castrated.
We are talking about Tractate Horus. His rabbi is
no longer sick with the virus. We
are talking
about someone who sold his animal, not
yet a bully. If
one day the fetuses
go to someone else, Rabbi Yehuda says, "He who receives his
animal from a Gentile and gives birth to a child, what do we want to know?
If someone sold only the animal without the fetus, without the
fetuses to the father, whatever it may be, will he be
breaking the prohibition or not? He sells it to a Gentile. He sells the animal for the fetuses to
the father. Rabbi Yehuda says, "He who receives
comes from a Gentile and gives birth to a child."
We saw yesterday that he receives a contractor. What is a contractor?
One who works for
someone else in exchange for the fetuses. So a
Gentile is the owner of the house, and the Jew
works and gives birth to a child. What do we have in his captivity and a cross-hatched priest
? What do we do?
We need to see how much it is worth and the Jew
takes his share, he is 50% of each child, he
takes his 50% and gives it to the priest and the
noisan does not accept it.
Father, there is no evil in me.
And if the Jew gives to a gentile and
it is forbidden to do this to a gentile, why is it forbidden to sell to a
gentile and give to a gentile half of the halush shebas?
We are afraid that he will let someone
use it. Shabbat is a tax collector in Domov and Nokdov
to establish this. We saw yesterday where they
say that the Jew, the owner of the house, must buy the
gentile's share even if it costs him 10
times what it is really worth in the market. And then he takes
everything and gives it to the priest. And the brown people say that whenever a
gentile hand is in the middle, it is exempt. Wise choices
say it is wrong. If there is any gentile here, what
part of a gentile is a gentile in the middle, an exemption, a partnership of a gentile is exempt. The
Gemara says on page 3 of the book,
apparently, the problem here is that
the fine is for the fact that he sold the animal.
If so, this also justifies our question, because we
asked what happens to a person who sells an animal to the
father, and here it says that it is also apparently prohibited.
This is included in this and this is the fine here, not that one, it was
clarified. What is the Hoover? Rashi immediately comments on
the place. Not the embryo we are talking about, the embryo
that is now alive. Now the animal is a bully and
here is an embryo. This is the embryo we are talking about.
For this we receive a fine.
But not for our case that he sold the animal to a
gentile for the embryos. Not an embryo that is now found.
Not that something will come in the future, but something that is
now. As a dectonic kanetz until the sur in domov domov is
masculine
so apparently it goes for an embryo and not not written it
seems it would go for the animal
the Gemara said maybe change it cannot be changed here there is no
here in the shema why he gives it to the priest
at all it would not be an embryo shema minu the Gemara says masrashlokesh
damshlok the launderer to a gentile if you are selling a
large animal to such a gentile not this until the surbad says
10 times so here rasshokesh says that whoever sells a
gross animal to a gentile this is the fine is 10 the
Gemura asks specifically or specifically
whether 10 is an exaggeration or 10 is real this is 10 times
10 times you will hear
Tamar Yeshua ben Levi the merchant lost to a Gentile, he sold his goods to a foreigner, and he sold them to a
foreigner.
So what do we see from this? As Rav Pix said, it is
indeed. Because if it is an exaggeration, then in both places the
same number of
exaggeration should have been written. Shet 100 100 is not there, it is up to 10, here it is up
to 100, it is precisely like that. So the
Gemara asks, the Gemara says that I am a slave all his days, I have a slave,
maybe
maybe in a slave it is up to 100, why because there is a
big problem, you have a slave, you had a slave who is as observant
as a woman, and now that you sell a generation to a Gentile, he
cannot keep anything every day, because of you,
he does not observe the mitzvot, so then we will reduce you to
100, but here, maybe here, here, what is with us, in 10, what,
maybe, maybe, it is an exaggeration, in 10, the 1st exaggeration, 100, not an
exaggeration, but the 10th, yes, the
Maccabean is gross to a Gentile, up to a foreigner, up to Domer, what did we say earlier
in the name of Rashlukish, 10,
and here it is written up to 100
ten in a keb even though it is rooted to the sur in
Domer then 100 or
if you let someone be a contractor you let a
non-Jew be a contractor you are not allowed to do that
even if it is forbidden to getzui then it is forbidden to be a boomer they are pinching
him like a zugmor or a
zur in Domer there is a decade in Domer there is 100 in Domer there are
all kinds of prices like a
zugmor so what do we do here there is here on
one side we see that
there is a
fine given to him. If you sell the animal,
sell to a non-Jew, they give you a fine, up to 100 times
you have to bring the animal back and then the
animal. You hear that for 1000 dollars you must
pay the non-Jew 100,000 dollars. If he studies Daf
Yomi, then he can really do a serious trick on you
. He knows that you must pay him up to 100
in Domer, he suddenly tells you, "No, the price is
90,000 dollars. Go jump, you have to pay for
it.
On the other hand, if you do contracting with a non-Jew, then the
fine is only 10, so it's 100 or 10.
The Gemara says, "Know my rulings." When you sell the stage
completely to a non-Jew, then he 100% leaves the authority of the
Jew and he becomes the non-Jew in the stage. Know or
judge me. Accept the ruling. But when you bring a non-Jew
as a contractor, who comes to this donkey's house? Who
comes to the ox's house? You are the Jew. So it has not left
your authority. It is still a heidegger. How do you
say donkey in Yiddish? Yiddish. Heferd. Yiddish.
Aferd. Thank you. The Gemara says, "It is precisely for
him that it will be destroyed." When we say 10,
100, are these exact numbers or is this an exaggeration? Let's say
someone who pays $100,000 for a cow. By the way, that's
more than $100,000. Yes, a cow is
$2,000. So $200,000 for one cow
will be destroyed." Yeshua, "My dear son of my heart, you are a Gentile. Quintzenau is forbidden
until it is forbidden in Domov
or now, wait, wait, wait, wait. I I'll ask Rav
Pix now, everyone, to be quiet. It says here that it is up to the
Sur in Domov. This is evidence that it is specifically or specifically to the father.
You are now looking at the other side. Well, what do
you say? What is the other side? Specifically or not? Is it an exaggeration
or not?
We are asking whether it is an exaggeration or not. It says that
whoever sells his lost property to a Gentile must pay up to
10. So here, this point
here is reversed. Suddenly, now it becomes reversed. After all, a slave is
more serious. It is the worst there is. You
take a human being, not an animal. You take a human being and put
him with a Gentile. And suddenly, you say that 10
in an animal is 100. How can something as serious
as selling a human being who lives by the commandments to a Gentile
be only 10? So we see from this that this is an exaggeration. These are
not real numbers. It's not clear that
something more serious would be less money.
You want to return it, don't you?
But we need to use common sense here. yes. It's like
it's not exactly as written. Everything needs to be
interpreted nicely and moved on. I mean, I'm a
slave. Oh, you say that's an exaggeration. No, I can't
tell him that I'll work for Eli Hodley. After you
sell it, it's a gentile and
they force you. Listen to what's happening here. Wait,
what is this? They force you to free the
slave, separate the slave from the gentile. The gentile bought the
slave from you for $1,000. They say up to
$10,000. You have to bring the slave back. So you
go. Pay the gentile $10,000. Now what
happens to the slave?
Bye bye. So $10,000 went to waste. How
much did you lose? In fact, a fine of $10,000
plus the loss of
$1,000.
So the question is, "Is there anything wrong
here?" Because you lost the slave, you only pay $
10. If you hadn't lost the slave, you would have
earned $1,000.
So for the $1,000 that you earn for
this, you pay 90 times more. As if you
had to pay 100 times more for an animal. Where is the logic here? What do
you have to pay for an animal? According to this, uh, 11,
11,
10 for the fine and one more for the value of the animal. You
say that everything that is between A slave to a beast is a
slave that you don't get anything from after you
free him from the gentile. He is completely freed and you do
n't get him. Okay, so for that, in a beast that
you do get him, you earned only the
value of the beast, so you will pay 10 plus the value of the
beast, but why 10 + 90? Why 100 times? Or
I am a slave to a slave. Tell me, wait a minute. I
can divide. I will divide better than you. That's in a
slave. The reason the fine is small is because
you don't earn anything in a brother that you redeem
for 10 times his value. You don't get him
back when he goes free.
But you get a beast back. So the fine is
bigger. Now, what does the logic say? How much
bigger is it?
Rag Yehuda. In a beast, you get a slave. You paid
10 times his value and didn't get a slave back. So it's
only 10 times. The beast. You get it back.
So how many times should the fine be?
One more. Just one more. In the beast's value.
Because that's the whole division between a beast and a slave. So you will make a
fine of 10. In an animal plus the value of the animal, that is,
11 times, and then they are equal to one for one. Why did you
suddenly do it 100 times in an animal?
One strike, so good, you got it back. So you will pay a
fine for the value of the animal. The total is 11. These are the ones who are punished in all their punishments, and they are the ones who are punished. They
You have everything if you have a little bit of a
Gentile, there you are exempt and Rabbi Yosef Aber Bechor Alli also
learns from those words Bechor Alli Bechor
From the Shema All this we have mercy on all even Koledhu There are
verses that the word all this even a little
anyway says Rabbi Yehuda Even if you have a little bit of a Gentile there
Even you have only a little and the majority is a Gentile
You still owe in the Padium Fatah Hamor Bozdcholim
Bechor In the sense of a firstborn it is
not
a little it means a majority even from the sub All to the fullness
does and the word all comes to the words It means you 75
gives you another 25 You reach 100 He means
not to shred Everything subtracts It is not from 75 It subtracts
And the hands of a Gentile's wife And you are exempt from the guy Kama
Says Avnu
Even Oznoi
Even the ear If the Gentile is a partner in the ear Then that is
enough to solve the problem Rav Nachman
And Lemli
Here is a priest The priest receives the firstborn and the priest
receives the firstborn Even if she has a defective firstborn So
what happened here We have a firstborn We have a donkey that the ear
belongs to a Gentile
So what is it like Nachman and I have a full ear, a
street, a Zil, what's the problem?
Take off the ear, take off the ear, a Gentile, take off the
ear,
take off. Here we even have a video.
It's actually a picture from the Gemara. So Yoshi put it in the Ai. It's a
miracle. Yes, today it's neuro.
Take off the ear. Hello. What's the problem? Now he's a
mute. Okay. Still, he's going to the priest with the mute.
Like, how can the ear?
How can the ear interfere here with the sacred
things
of everything?
It's everything. It's everything. They say that he doesn't have to be the firstborn
at all. He doesn't have to be holy
at all.
He doesn't have to be a person. He has to be brought to the priest.
That's the whole question. Why? Why don't he have to take
it off. Then give it to the priest. Because if it's
not, you go around. Itrav Hizo said, "Dubshanbi."
It's not the ear. It's not enough. The ear. It has to
be something like the heart. If you take out the heart, it's dead. The
Gentile is the owner of something that makes
it rot. It's a house of the heart. It's the owner of the
lungs. Not some kind of ear.
Akhdov says, "Dove, who has a tripe." [snorts of contempt] Not a
tripe, but a tripe. What? Napkana Navel is on the spot
he goes crazy he will live another six months and then
he will die within 12 months he dies and what in
the Drifad live
we saw the controversy just a few days ago
in Holin we have seen it many times that what is there from the slayer is the beast that is a
prey if it dies
now if it dies now it is understandable why he disagrees
he says prey and he says Navel is
basically the same thing this point that she will die the
second mantram that says Navel is because he
says that if you take off the prey you will live then they have to be Navel they need
not be enough that she will be a prey
Mahdo said Deshanba no but a prey h because of a
prey let's say that she has her leg cut off she will
live another 12 years
so therefore the gentile cannot be a
partner in the foot that if you take off the leg she would be a
prey but he must be a partner in the prey that
means in the heart that her name she will die straight said Ravked Rav Hopa Hod Rabbonu
and Rav Chizada and Ruba Laifligi once again
what Rabbonu says even Oznoi yes
Kamiansky does not say Rav Hona even Oznoi Rabbi
His grace, what does he say and most of them say "Trif" and "
Navi" to him, not "Pelig" Oh come on, if we're
talking about Hoover, then it's enough that the Gentile has a partner in the
ear of the beast. We're talking about me, mother,
so where should she be the partner? In "Trif" or "Navira," he
says here, "What is the name of the place? Come on, between every firstborn and the line? Why do
you bring me a verse that says every
firstborn should be 100%, and if a Gentile has
one percent of the animal, then they are exempt? If we understand that according to the laws
of the land, there is also a verse that says, "These people will not change." You're right. It doesn't matter. If you believe that this is an ear, then an ear in the mother and an ear in the fetus. If you believe that the Gentile should have a partner in the heart of the animal, then it's also in the fetus and in the mother. What
did he say in "Barbashi?" What are the people who fall? By the way, the heart of the sons of our
ancestors
fell. He didn't live. He can't
live, but they have holiness. What holiness does a fall have? He
must deny the
soul of a donkey. Dum said, "The one who lives in the animal." The one who lives in the animal
is what comes out. From the beast. So we'll
call it a little different living in the beast. That means
also what is inside the animal, so why did it fall?
The gamorah asks what is there in our hearts, Peter who lives in the womb,
Peter who lives in the beast,
says the gamorah in the navel, as they did not compete with the commoner, we have
revealed in him every firstborn, there are nefkemin in the navel for partnership
with a gentile in the navel that is 100% Jewish, there is
no mixture of commoner, he is
100%
holy, so he is holy, so we should bury him. We
can read the verse that every firstborn is all the firstborn,
100% firstborn, they competed with the commoner here, you have the
partnership of a gentile, we did not reveal in him all the cry, you have the
gentile destroying
everyone, take it to another place, Rabbi to the area, it will not work, the gamorah tells
what is the matter, he did
not come to Bedrash, in fact, to the rabbis, he met the
rabbis, but he was touched by this number, he
wants to know what is happening, where our rabbi will say in the midrash,
Omadi,
Hochi says Rabbi Yochanon,
even a slight defect if the gentile's partnership in the place where he
will make the smallest defect, for example, in the nose or ear, it is
nothing if you remove the The nose then he will have a
small defect take this off nothing happened it's not
taking out an eye it's not taking out a heart
it still solves you from his [ __ ] guy he has a
partnership in all
even without a tribe yes just facilitate and also
filter the spirit of the sholdo miniz no not that he does
if you would do it would be facilitate if it is enough for it to
happen that he is a partner
there is for example a [ __ ] partner who is a million percent ad
parts of a million of the animal so not even a monkel it's
nothing I'm talking even if he is
3%
but he has the whole ear
and you take the ear off almost nothing happened but he has
it facilitate it is enough to solve if it is
less than that it is not and also just acquires yudamis
here like this picture a girl lamb a goat and then a girl
fromhal exempt from mena in his hair it is a serious defect I
don't know what it is so a it doesn't know why there is a
beard it I didn't understand oh no there is it as a species
it as a species because he is not 100% lamb yes his mother is a
goat but he has a little okay
so if you have such a problem spirit of his hand and then that is
exempt from mena this is a defect we will see in a little while
Exemption and if there is a defect in the signs of
obligation if it actually looks very similar to the mother then it
must
and the Brisa says that it is there
and the defect is taken to the shuktolov that means you still
give it to the priest but it is so defective yes because
the halacha is that if there is a defect in the firstborn the priest slaughters it not in a
house that is sanctified it is good for
the priest he does not have to go to the house that is sanctified he
slaughters it in his own house and eats it is considered a
permanent defect swim in peace light komshon kadbono what our
rabbi says that it is enough that the ear belongs to a
gentile then it is excellent to defecate from dev chiz and rabba
and say that it is not necessary that the bimah that the gentile
be in the heart on the heart that makes it
rotten or on the leg that makes it a prey but a
permanent defect from the komshmelon
what are you what are you telling me that there is a permanent defect
because I have been taught but momo
it is really it is it is completely different from the bimah that it
should be it is not a lamb it is something else we have
already learned it is your pivedu Zohar it is a defect it was for
us in the Gemara it is not really accurate yes because
it is not the mouth His
yes we see in the Gemara that it is not really accurate and
in your Bedouins something you understand on your own yes it
looks like a pig his mouth at least resembles a pig
it is a defect so what have you innovated here we know that if this is
what
we know if there is such a defect that is
completely different it is a complete defect and that the tamsam will be changed in the
second generation in the holy suckling in the firstborn here he changed on
what was changed oner like a pig and a pig there is no pig that you
can bring there is no firstborn in the pig
but here there is a goat that looks like a lamb and a veal that looks like a
goat both in the parasha of the chosen one harashna in the speaker who is holy in his firstborn hon matani we
saw that too is not he was a chas gedelo and as chas keteno if
one eye is big and one is small in the big big goat
of an eagle you have a goat that has a huge eye like a
cow and
we have reduced it a goat or his brother he has reduced it like a veal
really tiny the mouth
of a small one it is hard to overestimate you want to tell me that
the point is that he resembles something that is not at all in the parasha there is no chas gedelo in the
mekko okay but No, no, there is no
firstborn goose, but it is as big as snow. There is a kind of Kush in its firstborn.
But if it was huge like a cow, there is a
firstborn cow. So what do you see? So why is it a problem? It is
not because it is not because it is not in its
firstborn. But because it is because of the damaris. If it is changed and because of the damaris,
then we see the element. If it is different from what
it should be, it is a defect. It means the complete one. No, you did not
make a mistake. Not because of the fear of being shrooed. What is shrooed? Rabbi, does
anyone know what shrooed is? So it says "
Shuro" and "Shor" and "Shura". What is "Shuro"? That two
organs are not the same size. There are
different sizes. It's a deformity. A broken bone. It's not that
he changed. It's not that he has a huge eye that makes him
different. not. The point is that the two eyes are
different sizes. That's the problem.
Asymmetric
Asymmetric is prepared by Momilo. We're talking about the priest who has a
deformity between the thick and the red. He
can't do work in the holy place when he has a
deformity. True, it passes, but it's a deformity. So today you do
n't work. What else do they have on them? A big, fat, two-eyed
person. A person who has two
huge eyes or two slits.
A person from the seed of Aaron. A
descendant of Aaron. He should be like everyone else. Or a two-eyed person.
Or not. Yes, it's not a deformity. First of all, it's real.
It's Guinness. Yes, there's one who looks like that.
It's hard. It's been my dream since I was a
little lamb to get to the temple. [Music] But no, it didn't
happen. What did you want to be
young? To belittle, to fall off the cliff. The
entire Jewish people are waiting for you on Yom Kippur. dream.
[Music] I was
disqualified because of a small defect. We
love you dearly.
Thank you very much.
What deformity do you have?
Yes, it's Zoe. I either had two
big eyes or two small eyes, but that's how
I understand you [laughter]. How do you understand? Everything is
fine with you. Okay
. Okay.
[Kahkhag]
What did you drink, we just changed it to him or
if there was no change or where did we go that there would be no
in Merced and Ahash was with him one big one
small if there is any change if it is because the person is
different not like that people even two big ones both small Naomi people are
not poor people are usually huge
or very small it is also a change so why what why is
it worse that one is different from the other but
her in the name of Dahav Shorua this is exactly the point of
Shorua Shorua not the point that is a defect of change
but it is a defect that is different from the other that limits
him yes no how do you say
limits him limits him the Gemara says no no
water along because of change the problem with
one big and small eye it is a change change and from me it is thin
his even two big two tiny
so you asked me well
then they are like that two big eyes as well yes this is som
two small this is som Hosversia Tirash Hosam Mahams Tiro come from bar
why two if he
was really too healthy is there such a thing too healthy
both his eyes should have been big
Amos Tirot in Mekhesh The reason he has one big
and one small shows us that he is not too
healthy he is not too he
has a serious physical defect Guru Demos to him
Ahibuseptomo
was a convert who used to kill Gentiles and they would give
her animals to eat
now she is the same as we had
before she is a partner in this is the Gentile
partner with the Jew does this solve the problem of the firstborn
not being allowed to come near he told him to have a kiss to him to be distinguished Yehuda Dashov is a Gentile
requires crying we see
the method of Rabbi Yehuda who says that a partner is wrong must
cry we tell him exemption from the firstborn the exemption from the firstborn
Rav Mori Bar Okhle it is also
interesting who is Rav Mori Bar Okhle
we always say that Horso not in his holiness and
Lydos in his holiness because this is the daughter of Shmuel that
father did have her name Gentile in captivity in short and in the end he
converted so they call him his name his mother Lichbuso he had a
vital but from Kodoni to a Gentile listen
this story is actually a toy they say here at the end of the toy of
Decompaclo Makdoshasio oh interpreted our rabbi Tam that is actually how
we do it today we sell the The
ears of the firstborn to a Gentile,
but today it is more acceptable. We know what we
do.
But he was a little problematic. But
he gave the ear of the animal to a Gentile, so that he would be
like his master. Just the ear to the Gentile is
enough to free you from your superior and I am afraid. And
he continued to be careful, even though there was a Gentile partner here.
He would act as if it were a real firstborn.
And if it was a real firstborn, ask about the goat and the sheep. It is
forbidden to shear the wool. It is forbidden to work on the heart of a
sheep. It is holy.
And not only that, but
he has to give her the ear.
You are like a fig tree. You ask a question about a fig tree and a roasted fig tree. Rabbi
Mori Bar-Ech. Wow, all
his animals died. That means he did something
wrong. The Gemara asks, "Dosgizo." He
does everything, everything as if it were a firstborn. Am I a Gentile? So
why did he cut off the ear of the Lord? Why did he give the
ear? Why did he sell the ear to the Gentile? The
Gemara says, "Dosgizo" because he was afraid
that someone might stumble and use it. He would ride
this animal, even though it was his. The firstborn, which belongs to the priest
and is forbidden, maybe then he sold it to a gentile, now he is
exempt, or was it with everything, a great deal of trouble, so
why did everyone die? The one who is completely sanctified,
what he did here is not good, he took it out,
took it out
completely from the sanctity,
and Rav Yehuda said, "It is permissible for him to have the firstborn
before it is born, and Rav Yehuda said, "It is permissible for him to have the
firstborn before it is born, and it is permissible for you to mutilate the firstborn before it is born,
or what is the problem here? Here he sold the ear to the
gentile, and that is where he forfeits the sanctity in the belly, here
inside the belly, he forfeits the sanctity, saying, "No, it is not a
sin, he did not forfeit the sanctity, it is part of the sanctity, a sin, a knee, a
lump, which is a
lump in the ear, it is impossible to bring it to the
sanctified bass, but a sanctified priest is not from any vessel, still they
have to give it to the priest, even a sanctified priest is a vessel,
and here, Rav Mori wanted that even the priest,
as if there was no sanctity here, he gave it to the
priest, but there is no sanctity here, and in Ismar, Rav
Mori, Bar-Esh, said, "Kanuk, you are giving it to the
gentile with money, saying, " Rashi is really a complete kinyan,
so what's the problem with all this, forgetting and leaving
and working, and people seeing it, in the end, Rav Mori Mas'ud
worked. People didn't understand that he did it with
money, he made a complete kinyan. They thought maybe he was doing
it with words, and then he brought it all to me. This will trip people up, Rabbi
Yessi. May you have a good gamar khashim and may there be
good prayers, may the
fast be good,
may we all learn
every day
at 1045, with God's help.