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you were a little bit on social media,
so mentioned, so we we were able to
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I'm a little bit older than you, but
still like the idea out there. Um but
today you have multiple hit singles
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Enjoy. So Mandy, how does it feel first
of all to be Menyki? How does it feel to
be you? So many people look up to you.
They follow you. They love your work,
your music. How does it feel to be you?
So, first of all, it's an honor to be
here for you. Thank you so much.
And
like, you're like, I wonder if he's
going to get the 300 votes. You know
what I mean? Wow. But you got it.
Yeah.
like and by the
way, but it's just
that like somebody mentioned it. I was
like,
"Okay, but anyway, go ahead." Anyway, so
how does it feel to be mandatory? It's a
hard question. Yeah, it's a trick
question, but the truth is is I know
myself beyond social media, beyond what
anybody else knows. So for me, how does
it feel to be me? I just feel like I
have I
have you know because I started off in
the beginning I I didn't really know
what I was what I wanted to do musical
you know music and I just I really want
people to listen to it and then came and
it just changed my whole entire career
it just took off you know
like and listening it's a whole new game
from plane right that's what happened
and I I wasn't ready I remember I
reached out to Nakman and I was like nah
what is happening and then I came back
to America and boom
homerivately playing just come to my
house and play with your guitar for my
kids for 5 minutes. I was
like I thought there's only weddings and
those type of jobs. You can get invited
to people's houses. That was crazy. So,
how does it feel to be Mandy? I just I'm
so thankful to God. So, so so thankful.
Beautiful. That leads me to my next
question. I feel like we are very
different. like I'm what they call I
guess an influencer or some would call
it maybe a celebrity today's but you're
a musician you're an artist but you
also the
techniques which is social media and
Instagram of course to get yourself out
there meaning you have more views on an
Instagram reel than you have probably on
your biggest uh YouTube video right so
talk talk to people a little bit about
that like how do you see yourself is a
sazing singer is artist is a celebrity
because when you describe that people
called you down to sing a few songs to
their kids that doesn't come necessarily
because you're a singer that comes
because you're also like a celebrity an
influencer you have an influence a power
question so I'll tell you what I I I
think that celebrity means two things
statuses celebrities I mean a celebrity
celebrity
status Miami but you're a celebrity why
you a celebrity cuz the famous celebrity
status is a
celebrity
celebrity entrepreneur most of the
time
because he's not showing off his talent
really his Instagram is his business his
business is being a celebrity and
selling whatever it is whether it's a
course or it's
merchand but then of course every every
artist was a famous of Instagram
celebrity status. So, this
is definitely a celebrity, but I would I
would say that I would I would I would
put myself into
the artist, you know, I sing, I'm an
artist and not necessarily because I'm
different than other artists.
vague, you get yourself out there
because if you if you're a new guy, you
just came out of yes and you want to
drop your first single, how will people
know to listen to
it, don't post enough status, like who
how is how are you going to get out
there? So, let's do the Instagram
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algorithm to get out of it. Exactly.
Look at that, right? at 21 and you have
more views probably than than think of
it than
MBD can ever have on his YouTube channel
or Spotify like do you know already the
number of how many views you have like
collectively do you have a number is it
counting I we have numbers on everything
that's some streams numbers and some of
streams not of 246 lines a million
streams oh wow yeah and 20 which is
which is like it's funny I would never
think I'll tell you what's I'm curious
if somebody like MBD actually has that
amount of streams. So on 246 possibly
because 246 is is an eye
concept 246. He he listens to your song
offline and not only you get paid for it
but it gets filed. No way.
Yeah offline 246 when it comes to
connect Wi-Fi it updates itself and you
get paid for stream. So on 246 it's
possible numbers I don't
think a million streams. Wow. I mean it
depends because of 246 songs 246. So
it's the five six songs that they're
listening. Martin Alliance has 550,000
streams has almost 150,000 streams.
Another song has like 250,000 streams.
It's crazy. 246 is is it's definitely
the new base of Jewish music. It's a
great plan. I didn't plan to give them a
shout out, but the fact that they put up
my podcast so effortlessly, like a lot
of people asked me, I told my manager,
I'm like, you know what, reach out to
them, try. They said right away, yes,
we'll put it up. I think I'm only in the
adult section, so I'm surprised you're
saying kids can listen for me. I'm
because we talk about mental health and
stuff like that. It's possible. I don't
know how, but I also So, in the first
week, I got like a thousand listens. I
think that that's a nice amount. So, and
also algorithm for you page.
So he got this searched it. Yeah. Either
he searched
it
because Spotify. That's one thing I can
say. They're not working like Spotify.
Spotify. You might like also this
playlist. They put it together through
genres and other stuff.
How many Spotify listens do you have
this year? Like we just finished off a
year. in which September we finished off
a year and no in December we finished
off the year and we had like uh 250,000
streams like just from this year on
Spotify which is
like yeah I know how much it is cuz I
used to do Schnitzers that's also how we
connected in a sense because I was doing
music for you um Wow that is a big
number I know Mah used to bring in about
uh I think it was 10 15,000 streams a
month like it's a big number but it's
not what you just described. 150,000
streams was it blew us away last
year was my total amount of streams the
whole year like 15 20,000 streams was
nice right second year it was like 30 40
the next year was 50 and then the next
year 250 right give it up so next year
we're projecting a million bye right in
2025 a million streams right that's it
um I want to ask you a question a lot of
people are saying like Ken and it is
funny because some people like I knew
them like as a business guy and I know
they're selling vice versa insurance and
of them the next day hey please post on
status my new single like it it did
became a little bit like it be it
started becoming a little bit of a joke
like the amount of people putting out
music what are the benefits of that
that Spotify YouTube music wasn't in the
the in your opinion as an artist so
you're about to hear a very different
opinion than anybody else
because interesting people that come
from outside of the music world mention
created music. They don't really know
what goes
into
producer but today the world of music is
so much more
complex. So where would you
start? It never stays the same when it
goes to the studio. You always have to
change it. So that means
record, but basically to sum it all up,
it costs a lot of money and it takes a
lot of time. So when somebody releases a
song, he has to know why he's doing it.
if you're doing it
because it's not it's not an issue and
just the opposite beautiful music
friends they show me their stuff
unreleased
music and mommy music compared to this
wow like I really feel like that
sometimes but
the fame. And it's nothing wrong to love
the fame. It's it's okay to like the
fame, right? But you have to know what
you're doing. Don't be stupid. Don't
just throw out $10,000 of a beautiful
music
video. You're not throwing stones in the
water. It has to exit the same to you
have to look at it as an investment.
Yeah, you have to see if you get back
for your investment or not, right? Um I
I love that you touched on the fame part
because I know like part of my business
is Weber Media. We do social media
marketing and many times I tell people
that this is the new way to spread your
business to to make awareness is by
being out there. And sometimes for
business owners, it's a very hard
decision like, oh, I'm putting myself
out. I'm putting out my face. But I
always tell them, so there's the option
of staying where you are and your
business is decreasing and you're just
losing money or just not making money.
And there's the option of putting
yourself out there doing the
uncomfortable and putting yourself out
there to yes make uh uh business. So I I
do see it as being out
there as a very beneficial thing and I
think that eventually I think everybody
will do it. like we're still sitting
here and I'm like in a sense a leader in
the podcast industry or in the in the
influencer industry, right? Like I think
when I started this a few years
ago that did this. That's why people
like me and you, we were so rare and and
you still are rare. But this is funny
because upcoming that you see that's
going to continue to be creative. Um I
think a shift in the that we have
that knowledge information they they
know more they see more. Um do you feel
like your audience
is and if yes what is your message to
them? How do you try to inspire them?
Okay. So, first of all, this is
definitely do a certain Z percentage
audience is in the age described. I
would say the age from like 15 to 25 26
Z% audience I would say like over 30%.
Nishans audience it used to be like a
year ago it used to be based on that
number. It was like 70% at least just in
just the age rate. But by now I I blew
up a lot. I grew with a lot of following
in in the past year.
So I would say
as possible as
mention the fact as they
mention right now because they live in
an industry, they live in a
community for example in grocery
store. Yeah. G&G
though a real estate
company was trying to attract
mention they would need
it from branding you can brand it either
with the owner of a store owner from the
store for
example I am whatever
business
models
company in New Jersey in New
York model. I don't know what the cost
is, but I'm assuming it's whatever a
couple hundred a month probably as a
contract type of Z. So, and now why do
you feel that your music is connecting
to specifically young people but also
even older people but why do why is it
connecting to these young? I think
because
mention people don't believe in
themselves until they see uh busy cast
and the mirror is successful you will
not believe in yourself. Okay. Meaning
you don't actually have to be successful
right now, but if you can look in the
mirror and see a version of yourself
that is successful, you will feel better
because you believe you have hope. It's
called like light at the end of the
tunnel. If you see that you can one day
be in a good place. So mentioned kicking
off journey, you know, I my journey was
pretty much on social media social media
and now I'm 21. So people saw how the
meni that got kicked out of yeshiva and
had a ton of hate came on the social
media and then 17 years old they saw the
meni that started went to Israel and
started releasing music but was still a
bit like this and then 18 they saw
another Mandy and then they they watched
me growing of course it's not everybody
but I'm sure dedicated like from the
beginning somebody came to me actually
last week I was by a party and someone
comes up to me he's like
Mandy comes to me he's like are you
Mandy I'm like Yeah. No way. I followed
you 5 years ago. You went live with Meny
Leon like back in the day. I went you
went live then. I'm like, do you
remember? I was live with you on
Instagram and oh my god, you got so
famous. That's crazy. I'm like, it's
interesting to see somebody that knew me
then versus now and like see how
different they look at me like, whoa.
Like what happened to you? Did you like
did you go for a makeover somewhere?
Like it's not just that, but the whole
vibe and everything. But and and how do
you deal with the fame? At the end of
the day, fame is a big thing. And I I
see you in Israel and in Israel also
people know you because you do Israeli
music. You work with Israeli producers
as well, right? So how do you deal with
the fame? So it depends where And by the
way, if I can add for me it's a little
bit different because I'm an influencer.
I'm I'm supposed to be a people's
person. So my fame is not going to influ
is not going to influence it so much.
But when you have a guy that's always on
the music videos and he has a whole
career under his name, when you see him
in person, it's like, wow, this is the
guy. Even when I saw you today the first
time, I was like, wow, it is do for a
long time. So, yeah, and we haven't seen
each other in a long time, but I'm
saying like it's how do you deal with
it? Because you obviously see the
reactions of those people. Do you like
it? Does it get to you? Does it bother
you sometimes? So, I like it to a
certain extent, you know, sometime I
love getting I love my fans. I really do
because I'm working for my fans, you
know, is like, "Wow, Ellie, this food is
so good." You feel good, right? So,
that's how I feel when people tell me,
"Men, I love your music." But it does
get tough sometimes. I'm not going to
lie. If you go out with somebody on a
business meeting and you're like
talking, family member,
a date even and somebody just walks up
to you like, "Oh my god, are you Mandy?
Can I have a selfie?"
Especially in Israel, I walk on the
shook, I can get slammed from one side
of the shook to the other side of the
shook easily.
Wow.
Boom.
And so I started in the beginning. I was
like, "Okay, you know what? I'm I'm
done. I
I shook. Wow. We We avoided the shook at
any cost. It was crazy, right? The shook
is probably a danger for you. There's
always going to be somebody that
recognizes it. But then at a certain
point, I I calm down because I realiz
they mention it's not what they're
doing. What they're trying to do, they
want to interact with me. So the
second come talk to me. You like my song
at Martin? Which part do you like? You
like the beginning more or do you like
the rap? I love interacting with those
people. The second you show them that
you're here to interact with them,
they're they're light, right? For me,
sometimes I feel like it's like healthy
validation.
Like compliment, I love compliments and
I and my love tank is very big. Like you
can accept compliments and it's still
going to feel good. I'm the same
way. And this is the best. Emotional
support is real. Every person needs
emotional support.
Yeah.
Right. Right. You know, but that's the
point is everybody loves emotional
support. Right. But sometimes it gets
tough, you know, like people have to
they have to know where to mind their
business or where to give the space to
the artist
because social media in person. That is
what happens. Your brain goes into a
shock. You're
like
mention I'm like social media and
sometimes I forget. So since I have it
with myself, I know how to be nice, you
know. I hope no celebrity ever had any
issues with me. Please, if yes, come
talk to me. I hope nobody ever had any
issues with me. But but the point is I
try, you know, I try my best. Who Who is
the biggest celebrity that you were able
that told you that they listened to your
music and it made you feel good?
I
think the actual biggest celebrity that
came to me that walked up to me. Yeah.
So I had to in the within the Jewish
community in the community.
No way. Mandy I listen I give my kids to
listen to every single day. Okay. Wow.
That's what beautiful is a good people
outside of the
industry in the video of Instagram
crazy.
Right. That's very good. I watched it so
many times. It's so funny. Static is
big. Static is very big. Can you see
yourself do a song with him or you're
afraid to ask him or I'm not afraid to
ask him actually.
I think it would be good. I think it's
good for him. It's good for you.
Especially the Israeli singers. They're
not afraid to make to collab. They're
very very collaborative. You know what
I'm saying? Yes and no.
If they only would have collaborated,
you you never see a collaboration like
it takes 30 years for a simple
collaboration to happen
between like I'll tell you the way I
look at it
collaborations by dimensions of
level. I'll give you an example. Imagine
influencers have exactly the amount same
amount of followers. It's exactly the
same famous. They collab. I feel like it
brings you up. What do you mean? So it
could bring you up, but it also has the
potential of people seeing the video.
They're like, "Okay, I see two even
people over here. Somebody automatically
in their head goes up and somebody goes
down because I
mention
I mention celebrities even so let's say
English and the English singer are on
the same
level okay I like the better mention
collaborations all the time and you
don't feel
like
lower right much bigger than me I I
don't I told you in my opinion I I don't
think so. Like respect, nice guy, but
right Instagram views. Are you talking
about loyal talking about? Yes. Like
target audience. Like I told you, I I
told Ellie before the podcast, I feel
like of the amount of views that I get,
only a very very little percentage of
that is my actual target audience, which
means is the people that I'm trying to
target, right?
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likes comments. I would say I saw that
this is the one for right at least 150
comments then in Palestine like that
right why because obviously that they
that's what blew up the reel that's what
made Instagram should show it to more
people that are also within my target
audience but in the same time a lot of
the views are not my target audience in
a sense you also took an entirely
different approach that I think you
release music just on Instagram am I
correct with that I mean not just like
these little 30 60 seconds videos so
I'll tell you that's an interesting
thing by the I don't like it's it's an
interesting topic because I was thinking
like this
after it blew up
like so we sat down and the whole team
and everybody and we were thinking why
did blow up? Now of course there is a
billion reasons that you can say but
then there's people that are
professional at this and they can sit
down and see why did this song really
blow up? Of course it's a good topic and
it's a song that everybody can hear
every day. Of course, it's a catchy tune
and of course it's a good music video
and of course everything. But one of
which one of those 10 reasons was the
key and we came to the conclusion that
the reason why it blew up was because
people were already waiting for it
before it came out. Let me explain.
People did not know that I'm gonna be
dropping a song
in
video people. They didn't know it, but
they were
expecting to come out. Meaning opening
often a parking spot. It's like a
product. It's like saying that you're
selling a product that everybody already
wants. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of releasing
a song, hey everybody. So, you're saying
it was the topic. You're saying that No,
I'm saying is it's the fact that the
people were waiting for it before it
came. Why were they waiting? You haven't
released something in a while or they
were just looking for something fresh
because was going viral meaning within
the community. It wasn't going viral in
the but in order for us to
viral in comments and likes actual
community in same thing on YouTube same
thing
audience right this is
exactly they started loving
status. So people didn't even but they
were waiting for it. They knew a week
before that it was going to come out.
They didn't actually know but in their
brain it was it was already accepted.
Right? So the
same how can we make a song that people
should accept it before it's out even
instead like please I'm begging you go
listen to my song on YouTube. Please
post it on status. Please do this. How
about people would be like, "Please let
me post this on Status. Please bring the
song to Spotify." Instead of, "Hey, the
song is available now on Spotify." So,
this is what we started doing. We
started coming up with teasing methods
and ways to post it on Instagram which
if it doesn't go viral okay
blamed went viral the same
way but it's it's a solid method of
making people want your song so that you
don't have to ask them please go click
the link and listen to it right so I
have a question cuz sometimes that's
beautiful. Sometimes I ask myself a
question
like like why do I have the cha as they
call it like why are people listening to
me? I'm just a 27y old kid. I'm I'm not
an entrepreneur and I'm I'm an
influencer, but but I'm
not, you know, I don't I'm not knocking
myself, but at the end of the day,
there's I don't have like there's no
specific reason as to why people are
listening to me and the podcast. These
podcasts are are getting now on average
like, you know, 10, 20, 30,000 views
just that we can track and it's an
insane amount.
So in a sense the the the question is
also the answer. Like because I question
why people listen to me. That's why I
also try to put out nice content,
information, motivation. It's one of the
things Leap always told me. He's like as
long as people listen to you, you keep
on giving out stuff because it shows you
that the attention is on you.
Um, but my question to you is, how do
you feel when you're you you you see
yourself you're you're 21 years old in
DMAX music that people love and listen
to every day that carries a huge
responsibility. You're inspiring an
entire new generation. So, how do you
feel with that responsibility and how do
you carry it? So, first of all, the the
first time that I I realized that my
responsibility was bigger, like right
after Martin blew up, it took a few
months for me to realize what happened.
Okay,
the song was viral, the views were going
up,
but I didn't see it like working in
shows and concert, you know, everything
just continues specifically went viral
in the Jewish community
like which was very interesting change.
Yes.
So, I came back to
America, we're going right away.
October seven performed to
Manhattan 7 a.m. And we we went to sleep
like at 12. At 12:00 he dropped me off
like literally. Woke up gym out. Woke up
gym out every single day. And I I
started feeling like really really like
out of control
because how can I continue my life? How
can I post something on Instagram
without thinking before is this
something that people want to see from
me? Because I felt like there's so many
more people that actually not only watch
me, but they care about what I do. And
so, first I chickened out. First I was
just, okay, stop posting stories of
Instagram. I'll post my links when it's
out and that's it. Yeah. And I'm still
like I I never came back. Like I used to
post a lot of stories like
I remember with the coffee
I can't do it just because not because I
think it's wrong but I think it's
unnecessary. I feel like it used to be
necessary when I was trying to gain new
followers and everything. Right now it's
just know but right now it's turning. I
don't have to do anything anymore. Yeah.
All I have to do is just create more
music and a game. But
is very very hard, right? So when you
write your music, what are
you saying like how do you come up with
ideas? Because I know you write, you
compose, you're the full package, right?
So how do you decide? Okay, dread and
and the topics in your songs are very up
to date. So how do you choose what
you're going to talk about and and
whatnot? So So I'll tell you what, I'm a
person that has I have an opinion on
everything. I don't talk a lot, you
know. I'm not a person that would like
put my opinion out there, but
opinion, it goes into my head. And if
it's something that bothers me,
something like something that makes my
heart shiver, anything, whether it's
something that makes you happy or sad or
if it's something that uplifts
you, it goes into my brain and it
becomes one of my morals. It becomes one
of my things to do. And then whether if
it's if I'm just walking on the street
and it's a tune plat it happened billion
times and some of them like blew up and
some of them did not you
know that was a
song of Route 9 Duncan and it just came
into my head and I I called right away
let's get it produced and it was out two
months later but then we have different
songs like Martin that was created in
the studio I was like okay song let's
see which topic are we going to choose
and like oh you know this is Martini
studio was like
okay
project. Okay. So what are the struggles
that people are struggling with in the
morning? There's nothing you can do.
just walk in.
But somehow
um how you described before your
schedule and I'm very interested in this
because they celebrinism and you can
share as much as you want but you
obviously you have a manager right that
joins us today. Thank you Nakman for
joining. Big shout out big shout out. Um
tell us a little bit about that. when
did you decide to work with him and does
he take your calls and they because in a
sense a manager I finally just hired
somebody to be my podcast manager
because I noticed my podcast it became
the number one podcast like in terms of
interest and views and so I said it's
impossible to manage you can physically
see I have a manager sitting on the
podcast eight hours a day working on the
shorts the reels the the sponsorships
editing the videos of the sponsorships
putting it in making sure that it's live
on 30 platforms. We just launched a
hotline, launched it on 24/6. Every
episode that comes out, you got to make
sure that it's live and and working.
Yeah. So, it's a crazy amount of work.
So, for you and Basham, I'm grateful for
it because I see it as a good business.
Like, we have sponsors on every episode.
People are reaching out. They they want
to work with us. There is memberships to
which I'm super grateful to every
person. Every almost every day somebody
joins the membership. Like, it touches
my heart. help what that means. Like
they these somebody doesn't just want to
see what you post. He wants more.
Exactly. It's a great feeling. It's the
best feeling ever. They want to see more
the behind the scenes and they want to
support and they're paying monthly. Like
it's a very good feeling. So Taka, thank
you for every for every member and thank
you for every person that's considering
to join. And if you join, thank you. But
so when did you notice that? Okay. You
got to So what does he do for you
basically? And what does the average day
look for you especially now when you're
here in America? So now when I'm here in
America, an average day. Yeah. Of
course, every day is different because
every day we do something else, but it's
basically the way it looks like. He is
by me around this this time it's a bit
different. So, he comes a bit later.
He's by me like around 8:30, 9ish, and
by then I'm already after the gym. I'm
already You know what I mean? I wake up
very early. I need to Nice. I I'm Yeah,
I see you're very disciplined and we got
to talk about that. You're very
disciplined. You're in the gym every
day. It's hard work. You I've seen your
muscles. This is nice. It's impressive.
That really shows something. that gives
respect to a person like crazy. Like you
know I feel like besides of
respect discipline he knows he can do
whatever you want. Exactly. Cuz
eventually like Yeah. If you have
discipline you can accomplish you are
unstoppable. Even if you're not
successful in your workouts you have
discipline.
Albert Einstein. Yeah. Albert Einstein
that the the law of compound effect that
when you do something it builds up and
and becomes bigger and bigger like when
you invest money and it just grows and
grows and grows is it's the eighth
wonder you know because it's like a
secret killer you know you keep on going
to the gym and then one day you notice
wow I feel better I look better it's
exactly what happened with me and the
motivation at that point trust me it
goes from 47% to 99 literally like it
right so what are what are you focused
on right Now, I heard you discuss before
you're scheduled already to be in the
studio. I know even scheduling the
podcast, you have a busy schedule coming
up. There was only two dates I was able
to schedule. So, you know, so what are
you doing now on an average day? You're
doing shows. You're in studio producing
month. We're focusing a bit less on
shows right now because coming up, so we
can't really meaning we're put we're
working on a lot of shows, of course,
meaning it's we're working on set lists
and on the whole entire idea, but
nothing is confirmed yet. It's we're
working on a lot of big stuff, but you
know, Sharon, we'll share when the time
is when the time is ready, but uh we're
working right now basically on content.
We're focusing on content. We like to
have content backed up since I'm I'm
going to be going back to Israel in a
month from now. So, when I have videos
shot here that you can release, I went
back to Israel 5 months ago, we had
every single video that I posted on my
Instagram in the past half year was
already set by the time that I came back
to Israel. Wow. Where do you Who does
that? That's him. So, it's co. So, of
course, or you're that way. I know
you're also very creative. Uh, I do I
have my stuff that I do. I edit most of
the videos by myself. Um, music videos
or the shorts? Shorts and whatever. I
always I have like a like a eye, you
know, like a I don't know what the word
is eye or something like that. Very
nice. It's more like cinematic like I
Yeah. Like because creatives is within
cinema like within pictures and videos
and in their belt. So like I always like
videographer like for example when
usually when you make a music video you
need to have a videographer and a
director meaning
very very not very
rare on his bench. You cannot find media
does not do
it is a director is a director and he
brings along a videographer with him. So
there's all kinds of ways that you can
go about it. You can either hire a
director and a videographer. But in in
my case in every single one of my music
videos for the past two years, I was the
director, right? I directed my own
video. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So
that's impressive. I I have another
question which is I feel like when it
comes in this industry it's like a
little bit of a gray area to talk about
money right and I'm very curious how how
do you make money as in your career and
how do you spend money meaning the maka
song so it cost to dollars so how do you
cover that so I'll tell you what there's
of course it's limited how much I I can
share about this topic but I can tell
you one thing first of It does not cost
as much money as people think. Once
you've been doing it for a long time and
you get the hang of it, you figure out
where you can cut out huge amounts of
money that are unnecessary.
Mhm. Apart from the
faction
prices, right? And I don't want to say
names and and stuff. It's just it's kind
of it makes me sad. It makes me sad
because the fact is
He's not going to be able to figure it
out. He's going to get lost in the way.
He doesn't know how to direct a music
video. He doesn't know how to take stuff
to producers because I can produce it by
myself. I can get somebody that can do
the music and I'll sit with him and I
figure everything out. So, this is first
of all expenses wise. It does not cost
as much as people think it costs. Second
of all, I look at every song, not I, me
and Nakman together where we look at it
as partners. He's like a manager. But
yeah, without my manager, I would not be
doing what I'm doing because we sat
together. And you always need, you
probably know this. You definitely know
this as a second opinion is sometimes
more important than your own opinion
about yourself, because they see you,
right? You see yourself, of course. I
know you think you're awesome. you are
awesome, but I know he thinks he's
awesome and everything, but like you
need somebody to tell you this can go
out and I know you think you look nice
when you go like this, but nobody wants
to see you blowing your nose or
something, you know? It's like ideas
like that. So, we decided together that
it was the smartest thing to do that I
forgot what I was in the middle of
saying one of the ultimate
zing the oh the expenses. So we decided
the smartest thing to do is that we look
at every project by itself as an
investment. So I look at it like this.
Yeah. For example, and we're going to be
putting it out, right? So we're going to
be putting it on all platforms before
concerts, right? Because right now we
don't have our own concerts. We might
get called on to other concerts. We
might get featured and all those stuff,
but this is not tied to the release. We
want to see the amount of money that
we're going to put out on this release.
How long is it going to take us to make
it back before profit? if we can make it
back and we have our rules and our our
you know the way the business works
because that's already that that has
nothing to do with social media and that
has nothing to do with me as a person or
as a singer. It has to do with us as
people and and in our business. You
know, I'm also releasing music, but I
also have a business. It's called
Mandatory Music. Right. So, that's why
I'm asking about the money part is not
because I want to get personal into you.
I want to I see it as a huge
inspiration. Like, you're doing so much
big stuff and I know that it has to be
costing a lot of money. It does. So,
answer number one is okay that it's
there's certain things where you you
able to save yourself, which is super
smart. Um, another way to to that I'm
that probably happens or maybe if you
want to talk about it is that you are
probably yes making some amount of money
and you're managing it well if if I
understand correctly with this gam. But
we're definitely making money. All
sources there streaming platforms,
there's YouTube, there's 246, there's
Zing, there's all platforms like that.
And then we have a lot of ads mention
advertised and some sponsors fed videos
and there's there's a ton of different
ways for us that we're that we're making
money. How much money is of course is
relevant, but the fact is we make sure
that when we put out money from our
pockets on a music expense, it's going
to come back. We make sure that it comes
back. And this is just for business, a
business perspective because we don't
want to be
stupid in the beginning like we were
like, but don't be stupid. Just because
you want everybody to be able to search
your name on YouTube and see that you
have a song does not
mean eventually you're not going to have
to pay this amount of money for
music. Okay.
Because you know how important it is for
business to be
different over the other two ice cream
stores, right? Restaurant over their
restaurants.
So everybody needs their niche. So if it
makes sense then definitely they should
go for it. If not,
right, right, you know. Right. Um, one
of the things that I wanted to touch on
is I know that you had an interesting
um, like teen life like growing up like
you said 16 17 and you put yourself out
there and that's that's one of the first
places probably where we
connected. Um, what do you think today
for somebody struggling going through as
a similar experience the 17 18 19 and
it's rough for them. What's and I'm sure
to mean they all say that's whenever I
go to bar park walk around in gourmet
glat I see a booker buying a sandwich
and then they come over to me they tell
me and yeah and so what can you tell
um you know to to to to inspire them but
also in a sense of how they can take
charge of their life like they look up
to you they see he took care of his life
career and his discipline
it is confident at least that's what it
looks like right what can you tell them
so of course every one of those
things but I can sum it up I can sum it
all up together and I can say one thing
for them I can say
as definitely but everything first of
all looking at the whole entire picture
me looking back at my past I don't see
how anything could have gone
anything of any kind of
detail
like I was I wanted to release
music and I would be right
now I guess you know but like which
nothing wrong with it but I wouldn't be
where I am right now so Everything that
has to happen is happening. So he's got
his plan and you're definitely on the
right track. As far as career, this is
definitely
awareness. They don't educate us young
that
family whatever depending on how you
choose your lifestyle, but you're going
to have to support the family. They
don't really educate us so much on that.
Not because they don't want to, but
English math and
spelling. So there's no place really for
this, you know, but I feel like
everybody has to take it
seriously. Don't be afraid to jump on it
and do
it. Electronics, figure off the wires
and run an electricity company. Jump on
on your skills. Don't
don't love learning.
like social media. So like
so I used to be like that. I used to be
like okay you know what social media but
that's a mindset. It doesn't work like
that. That's not contradicting. It's not
really
contradicting. Everybody should do
exactly how they feel comfortable.
Right? you know, beautiful, beautiful
answer. And I think they're starting to
put this into the curriculum already.
Like they're starting to give people
kids their space. And I think
especially recently that just way too
many people are not happy and they don't
feel a purpose in living. Um I feel like
you've created purpose and meaning for
yourself again. Yes. Like I it sounds
like you enjoyed to live your life and
it sounds like you enjoy waking up in
the morning. Um how did I bumped into
hard times? That's what I'm asking. How
did you overcome it? So first of all, I
didn't stay quiet when I had hard
times. Loneliness. I had times that I
was by myself wasn't here still did not
know who I was
and I was just like in Lakewood, you
know.
and you know I didn't I didn't feel
full until I came to Israel and I
realized that you know I I need a
different type of life because I'm a
different type of person and I need
something that works for me
but I think that I don't look at
struggles as a mistake that you have to
fix. I feel struggles is something that
you just have to be able to live with it
and push it through because
eventually because without your
struggles you wouldn't have been here.
Wow. certain point and I feel
successful.
Yeah. But everybody has a certain point
whether
it's everything that you think that you
can do when you get there you're like
you feel successful and then you look
back and you're
like all that hard times they brought me
here. Yeah. I was it's I I love what you
just said because I was saying this
morning the similar like I said that the
challenges don't necessarily change if
if anything they get bigger right
because you're growing a family you're
finding a relationship you're growing
your business your career we all grow
but it's the tools that we have and how
to deal with them the knowledge the
people that we meet along the way that
can now help us despite the fact that
the challenges or the things that we
have in life gets bigger and and bigger.
That's true. Um, I wanted to ask you,
Visataka, how's the experience in
Israel? Have I learned there like seven
years ago already, but how is it for
you? Why do you enjoy it? How are you
enjoying
it? Talk a little bit about it like a
celebrity. So, it's
like I don't know what's the lifestyle
over there. First of all, first of all,
you're right, but you're also wrong.
meaning exactly what it's funny you're
like saying what I thought about a year
when I first came to Israel. When I
first came to Israel, I wasn't as famous
as I'm now, but I already felt famous.
You know, people were already stopping
me and
everything
because I'm going to lose my name
celebrity. But that was only because I
was trying to be bigger. I was trying to
be a bigger celebrity and I was focusing
on the fact that I'm a celebrity
and because I was focusing so much on
that. Yeah. It was a couple of
years and at a certain point I
realized this is unnecessary.
Unnecessary. Why do I need it?
And that's not only the only
thing also settled like if you want to
have a settled schedule. One of the best
things to do is you learn how to cook at
home. If you live by yourself, you have
to cook by yourself every single day.
Breakfast, lunch, supper.
Imagine this is already
something you're in Israel. This is just
another tiny point easier.
comfortability. I can get my bedroom by
myself if I
want
mention I
think because it's not going to change.
You're not going to stop listening to my
music.
So like it doesn't matter my my my
financial state. So, and in general the
energy in general the energy is I
figured it out
because they they they lose their
schedule. they start waking up late and
that that's what happens because
especially in the summer night life is
like very popular in Israel you know
because it's in
the and then you get home at
4 whatever you know everybody has their
own time and then you can't go to sleep
till late
because my
schedule 5:00 5:30 5:45 in that range
over there I put something into my
body and then afterwards by 9:30 I'm
already on the street, you know, I do my
thing.
So everything, you
know, they learn but they learn five,
six hours a day and then they stay with
six hours a day that they have nothing
what to do, right? So I figured out how
to split it apart in a way that my whole
day should be interesting for
me and I should lose my motivation to do
the rest of my
daycert at 19 seconds of the concert and
about 29 minutes into the concert. You
have to do the same thing with your day.
You have to make sure there's
interesting stuff, right? So are you
working every day on music? Like what do
you put into your space? I make sure I
make sure every day I do something
either I work
with it doesn't actually come out on
Instagram
like okay let's record it and then we'll
see eventually how we're going to do it
and
database unreleased songs not everything
is ready to go out of course but like
just like
if we need it, you know, like we're
working on a couple of big stuff, albums
and we have to figure it out. We have to
know what goes where. Wow. So, yeah,
it's impressive. It just like popped
out. But, you know, why
not? Yeah. Wow. Wow. You know, we got to
keep it down. That is the next level. I
feel like Right. I feel like the next
thing that I could possibly do is drop
an album. I've done everything already.
Wow. I had a hit song. I had a hit
cover. I had everything. Right. That
that is my next question. Where do you
see yourself? What's taka the next step
for you? And do you feel that you're
okay? You're ready to handle it like
mentally, do you feel do you have you
have the capacity for it? Does it scare
you? So it definitely it scares me to a
certain extent but by now I I do believe
that I have the capacity for it just
because like I I did not believe in
myself a year ago and the amount that I
grew in the past year showed me how much
I should believe in myself because if
you see that everything that you do
people like it like we said before the
emotional support goes up and up and up
and up and at a certain point you feel
let me do more for the
people. So you're saying it's like it's
growing slowly. When you can handle
this, you can handle a little bit more.
Then you can handle a little bit more.
And you know an album. My dream was
always to drop an
album. That's it. It's over. If he wants
to really listen to Mandy and get
inspired and hear your message, it's an
album. the flow shine music the branding
the song picture you know and and and it
comes together and everything right but
but if I can say Mandy I think performer
I don't think I don't think all your
future is an album I think your future
is in in
shows in order to make a show am I right
the guy is crazy I saw I saw your videos
with the with his
pum the mask yeah and you was jamming in
a store or something and I was
like you deepest you know leaper 2.0 Oh,
you know, not to call you names, but you
you have that, but in a younger energy
stuff. You know what I'm saying? Right.
But it's good because it's it's young.
You're young. You're 21. You're you're
fun. The new generation, right? So, Lipa
did this 10 years ago. Exactly. Right.
Right. Right. So, I feel like you can be
a good performer. You can you can go
onto a stage and the
traditional
the Yeah. like we want entertainment and
I feel like you have the personality for
it, you have the charisma, you have the
the voice for it obviously you have the
the the the material to do something
like that. So, first of
all, it's literally it's literally some
of the stuff, you know what I'm saying?
Like, this is that interesting. But, uh,
the truth is that I I know like I'm
aware of the the my my performances and
stuff. I I didn't know, but then at a
certain point I started performing.
People were like, "Meny, what did you
just do?" I was like, "I'm sorry. What
did I do?" I was like, "No, that was so
good." And I looked over the videos and
I was like, I started figuring out stuff
that I did and I was like, "Okay, let me
go a bit harder on this." And then I
learned how to do it. And it's also
months of practicing like we we did
rehearsals for a very long time. Yeah.
You had many gigs in Israel, right? Big
stages and stuff like different types of
gigs like I did I see. I think Mendy is
fun. Like it's you don't get it often by
the way. It's not something
that anizing it. It's it's actually
something that you're one of a kind.
You're unique. I appreciate it. Yeah. Um
I another question that I'm curious is
how you deal with like people project. I
know for me
took suggestions on
WhatsApp and I tell
people I I do my life and I don't share
anything about that on social media like
with my audience. Um do you get pressure
from that or you just
by me it's a bit different. I do I get a
lot of messages you know my
inboxes messages but uh the truth is
that I look at it in a very I used to
look at it differently you know I used
to look at it in a very immature way I
was like wow but then I realized at a
certain point
as social media videos high quality you
post good
content if you look good even if you
don't look
good everybody has their own nice
whatever
If you look settled on social
media, yeah, why should a girl not want
to marry you? Right.
So, because social media that portrays
the most perfect picture of you
possible. When you want to find a girl
for your future, you want a girl to see
the most imperfect picture of you
possible. Because of course,
no matter if you have a lot of money if
you if you are famous or you're not
famous because
if it's connected to something you're
going to lose it. So I really don't want
to find anybody on Instagram and I don't
want to find anybody through Instagram.
I I do believe in the system but to a
certain extent like I wouldn't go to
just a
random paycheck because this
is because then they just push they
literally push. Yeah. But what I would
do I would go to
somebody you just have to find somebody
in your family in your
circle.
for you
know you're going to screen her. You
know,
does she want you for you or does does
she want you for your career, money, and
fame? That's basically what it comes
down to. That's basically what it comes
down to. But it's also like I regretted
the fact that I became famous because
Because it's a little bit scary, by the
way. Exactly. That's That's exactly what
I'm
saying
is
Instagram. But when it comes to seeing
the real person, sometimes it's a bit of
a And when it comes to making a big life
decision, you got to make sure that
somebody sees you for the real you. Yes.
So, when it comes to dating, I I stay
away from Instagram, dating platforms,
and all those stuff because what should
I do? It's too late, you know? My name
is out there. I can't really do
anything. But, uh, when the time is
going to be right, I'm going to find
someone and yeah, I'll make sure it's
the right way, you know? Right. Right
now, mention, when you have an artist
that's single, people always they're
always worried for him. They always come
up with suggestions. I think it should
be exactly the opposite.
Mention we're having a hard time, but we
don't have a hard time. There's no
crisis by where we're at, but God has a
plan for us just like he has for for
everybody. 100%. Wow. Um, anything?
Yeah. Anything that we didn't cover? I
see we're already an hour in. I feel
like we covered a lot, man.
Um, I always try to think
about whatever Instagram.
Oh, that's [ __ ] checking. Let me
check Instagram.
Wow.
Messages. I have a lot of questions.
Okay.
What made you go into the line of music?
I I feel like we spoke about that. No.
Yeah, we can do a quick answer and
everything. What made Okay. What made
you decide to go into music? The fact
that I wrote a lot of songs and the
fact and then I blew up. So, I felt like
everybody likes it like we said before.
Yeah. What made you decide that the
culture isn't for you and you're more a
music guy? I don't think they
question Instagram
questions because it's judgmental. Who
cares? And by the way, the culture is
very much for me. I still join my
family. I hit them back
at my family. Yeah. This is judgmental.
People see it. This is the black and
white culture. As they say today, OTD
stands
for it used to stand for over the day.
It's not today for and that's really how
I feel like me years ago I would have
been been considered like a bum a
dropout whatever right today what do you
mean like I can wear a t-shirt I'm not a
drop the drop
exactly yeah mention the views
definitely which did he go to Baba 45
yeah I was going to say somebody's
asking like when did you decide that you
want to look different than your own
community which I just want to say that
I want to answer the question like what
means different what's the community and
what means different cuz some person
decides to wear all day
and
different shirt it doesn't work like
that we're like we just it's it's the
it's the the end game for our journey
it's the the endame
the end journey
t-shirt and then we settle on something
that we
wear. Love my community and the people
that I'm making the music for is my
community that I grew up in. So, we love
the community, right?
There's uh yeah, we we got lots and lots
of questions, but I feel like we did
talk about all of them. Spoke about all
of them. Spoke about all of them. And um
one one of the things I love doing on a
podcast is bringing a person and
introducing him to the world
like
mention the real Mandy they should know
you from the Instagram they should get
to know you and I have a very good
record on on doing that on introducing
people to the world and I'm very proud
of that. So thank you Mendy for your
time. Good job Ellie. I appreciate it.
Um, thank you everybody for being here
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I'm going to record an extra bonus uh
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truly helps and supports the channel.
And there's also many older videos with
all the other guests that we had um over
the last two months where you can watch
um extra content uh bonus footage with
those people. It's usually sometimes it
can be a 10-15 minute conversation that
we're just randomly having with the
guests so that you can get access to it.
And I do that because the money that
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Tell them who sent you. Yeah, exactly.
So, thank you very much everybody for
being here. I really appreciate it and
the support is just overwhelming despite
like sometimes negative comments that I
really don't read, but sometimes it
comes out and whatever. And people are
like at the end of the day I feel like
the the people are here. They're
listening. They they enjoy to listen to
me to the work that I do. And these are
the people that give me the strength to
to go on and share inspiring
conversations that help them grow. And I
truly feel grateful for this
opportunity. But I I throw back the the
gratefulness to you guys because if it
it wasn't that the channel keeps on
growing, I wouldn't continue doing this.
Um since I I I did such a long outro.
Meny, any final words of inspiration
that you want to give to Cli?
Definitely. We have to tell Claudius and
they have to know it's not it's not
optional. They have to know this that
they have to understand that God is the
biggest and he does
vacation, you know. So, like if you're
ever afraid and you're thinking
like this is
exactly says yes, this is how he's
helping you. Wow. So, just be calm and
you'll get there and years from now,
two, three, whatever it is, you'll we'll
all laugh together, you know? Right.
Right. And you probably deal with that a
lot like anxiety, fear, your career,
your travel, you do big shows, you do
big stuff that you never know how it's
going to work out. I I I deal a lot with
it and I have sometimes, by the way,
people don't know this, like when I'm in
Israel is not with me in Israel, so we
work remotely, but when I have a show or
something, I have to just show up by
myself. Oh, wow. So imagine show by
yourself.
Imagine the
show performance
songs like it was a big kid celebrity in
Israel. It was a big deal. It was a
performance
chick whatever and I was I I came to the
event from the
bag you need the bathroom maybe go to
the bathroom before it's a lot of
anxiety but then afterwards it feels how
did you do it? How did you put yourself
on stage? So I despite the fact I close
my eyes and I look at the situation like
as if it's already passed like
wow of the stage
right it's beautiful that's the way to
do that.