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All right, today's dion which is shabas
is d. Yesterday we were discussing the
and the possibility of it being which we
thought was not so push because the
cleates
and therefore it's not which is metal
and then we had brought from that it is
metal because they would use the
basically a display case for the regulum
to show that the were still hot and how
much hashem loves Israel because he
makes this nace that the areas.
Okay. But now fractum eight lines from
the bottom of va but typically mishum
tip you know why it's makab it's because
of its gold plating and that would be
the case even if it was it would still
be makab because man didn't we learn in
the mishna in the 22nd per of
let's say you have a wooden kali like a
table or a chair that now somehow it got
broke and therefore it's smaller or
zishna gets covered with marble vishier
But there's still area to be able to put
down the cups on the table still because
there's still an active area of wood
that's usable. It has a den of a cleates
and still sh to its original kite. It'll
be
they have to have enough room for
putting the
because if you don't have enough room
for its usability then it will not have
a dinner of a table. But what do you see
that she in only if there is going to be
room for these other things it can still
be macab but leier light but let's say
that tui completely covers the table and
therefore there's no wooden surface
enough to really use it it's going to
lose its status our has gold plating
around the entire ki so maybe you have
no riot that is to the sack now you want
to tell me and there's two different
kinds of plating you can have plating
that's just kind of sitting there or you
have plating that is actually attached
and really part of the cle because by
the kim of the chair, the duli, those
things we were talking about in you're
really affixing on plating with nails.
You're making it permanent. But by it's
inside of a gold sleeve. It's not really
attached. And the reason why I would
make such a is because
and also
moving overbisin
that's the rim of a kier table even if
that even if that plating doesn't cover
that area
had said to that
made
so that wouldn't matter anyway whether
or not it was permanently attached with
nails or if it was kind of in some kind
of a sleeve of plating. But we're back
to Arasha that atipui itself would be
enough of a reason for it to remove its
ability to be macab. So how does know
from the of the it had a den of
something that was metal
but maybe you'll tell me that the actual
wood that the was made out of was
special wood. It was and therefore maybe
it won't become bottle to the gold
because normally we'd say that the
plating is but here maybe it's not so
because the actual but that's
in that
only said their din about wood that
would be bottled because it's not such
of a wood it's this
mism let's say you have fancy mismos
wood as we all know is such great
woodley
maybe it wouldn't be bottled to the
plating so then chopper then rishlakish
would be fine because
would not be bottled to the
according to the table's because the
fact that it is not. So according to the
reason why the is because it's bottled
to that to that gold plating. So you you
don't have any from the being for the
you know what there's a uniqueness about
the because
even after it's been plated the refers
to it as a wooden kay as the tells us
we're calling that
so now let's get into this pus a bit
the starts starts off talking about the
and then ends off talking about the why
are we calling
so
but now we don't have a mdul
is his
for him and the way Rashi learns it is
because he's going to be able to feed
other people guests or the miketa says
is because of the poor people that
you're going to take care of but because
of these mitzvah that a person can do
with his schulan. They're going to act
for him as a MSB of Kapara. As a kid, we
moved around the country a bit until we
finally settled in New York in 1980 and
my mother got a job teaching in Bruters
and therefore we started to go to
Bruters and that was arguably the most
right-wing school we had attended since
everything prior to that point was very
out of towny schools. My mother who
taught first grade for decades. My
mother likes to recount how when in the
beginning of the school year she was
sitting on one of the children's desks
talking to these first grade girls who
had a firmer background than the girl
she had taught prior. One of these
little New York girls says Mara Kramer
you can't sit on a table. It's like a
bay. So clearly the first grade girls
iners knew
and the mishnad said
so as we talked about past couple days
you got these vertical sniff that was
standing up straight which had these
little protruding pegs on which there
were these rods that went across that
acted as shelves to hold up the soil how
do you know that the required all these
different kinds of things
says
so what are these objects
of that's the mold that they would form
the bread in it.
Those are the spoons that had the
Rashi in his second shot says they come
from the word of hard because they would
support these and strengthen them so
they shouldn't fall apart.
the rods because they would keep it
nucky clean of any mold
which they will be covered that's
they would cover those with themselves
on this mucker from katina our mission
seems to say not that way because
the assembly and the deassembly of those
etraz
do it on shabas itself then later took
back by saying
because we also say in our
shabas if you could do it on Friday
you can do this whole process without
being because you could do the
switcheroo before shabas and put the new
ones on after shabas so then time am so
why do I need to have these different
these different rods there
so this way the bread shouldn't become
moldy you need to have air flow going in
between these
in this short amount of time it's not
going to be a problem like the says Kate
said how will they
go into the on
and he would take away these
he would put them on the ground actually
along the along the length of the
he would go back in he would take the
edge of one
and he would put the rod underneath
And then he would again pick up the edge
of the
so again he would repeat this process
until he was sliding one in and he would
continue to slide in each one of these
manaki until you got all 28 of them in
there and the new without only there
from midday on chabas until shabas and
that's not enough time for these to
become moldy and then the brace
continues and says
that the four middle in each of the two
columns of six require three different
of these
with these different rods
and the top two only need two. Why?
There's nothing on top of the top two to
squash them and create a problem and
therefore they require less rods, less
of these and
there's nothing that needs to support
the bottom two because those are sitting
on the surface of the so again if you
imagine you got two rows of six the
bottom ones don't need it all. The next
four each require three conum a piece.
That's 3 * 4 is going to be 12. And the
top two don't need as much support
because they are not being squashed from
above and therefore they only require
two totaling our 14 different kum in
total. And 14* 2 for the two columns is
going to be the 28 that we mentioned. We
learned in that Mishna that I'm sure we
all remember in the 17th par. Yeah.
Mayor call mdash all of the that
whenever we talk about an amma's
measurement in the base of mdash we're
talking about an amma which is a six
because you got a smaller one and a
bigger one is the middle one
those specific things the were comprised
of that were five but that's all of
mayor
any of the were the building of the
mdash were but caleb all of the caleb
were made out
and
both were
they come from the same school that
we're going to spend some time on. Now,
as the posting says
is a way of saying a six because it's a
five plus one tea. Turning over to
and the base of the MSB had a five
teflama and also an amma in its middle
and its top edge was a half was a half
amma round. All around was a five am.
Now we break down the puss.
That's the
which is the one shelf that went around
five from the bottom
and the border there was a half ammo
around those were the
mayor
this was made with an that was built out
of five but That's
not just by the all of the mdash all had
five measurements. Now
you might have thought that the saying
that the height of the of the from the
bottom to that is going to be five.
What do we mean by the base was a five.
So to its five
from the base until that is that was
measured in of
according to this that the first six of
the height of the MSB were made of five.
What was the total height of the
six of those were five each boy and four
of those were made of six. So what was
the total amount of of the
it's 54. So Paul gave the what's the
midpoint in terms of it'll be 27. So
and what was the distance from the top
of the until the it'll be 24. So
how much is going to remain from that to
the halfway point of the it'll be three.
So if you're standing on that, you're
going to be three from the center of the
misbay. And we learned in the Mishna in
the third per of which we're about to
learn in our
red line that goes around the at the
midpoint of its height.
As we know, there's lots of different
most specifically the and those are all
done above the as opposed to that goes
to the lower part of the Now getting
back to what we were saying. Now
if someone is going up to bring so he
could put the dam on the upper part of
the
he turns right to that
he comes to the southeastern corner of
the misbeh
and he does it malik on the back of the
neck he separates the head from the body
of the bird says and he squishes out the
dam on the wall of the above therau
and if he goes down so far even one
below below where his legs are. It's
okay because it's still above the
halfway point of the but according to
the way we understood the putting dam
now above the you must put the dam above
the at least
he's putting the dam which needs to be
above the two below the because if the
is above the when the k is on that he
puts his arm downward in amma even the
five am to squish the dam out on the kam
and he now squishes it out below below
the but the Bryce is saying that if he's
standing on the siph you could reach
down an amma to squeeze out the dam. So
clearly the can't mean that the first
six is of that that height can't be
measured in five teacas. it won't work
that the base that the is talking about
that's talking about the kisa that's the
part that goes in isa and the amma of
its width is talking about the kisa of
that and goula elafa is also the kisa
that border which is the half amma all
around is also talking about a kisa
meaning all 10 of the height of the were
all measured in am of six the five we're
only talking about those kay
specifically about the isite and the and
the kronis and this ta works well with
the bry
Because
what's going to be come out to be the
height of the whole
because each one of these 10 that
counted upward were
what's the midpoint it'll be till 30
mice
and from the top of the chronis until
that will be 24. So
how much will be left over from that to
the halfway point? It'll be oh
now we learned in the
if you do it even one amma down where
his legs are that's still going to be a
crusher to do the avoid and that will
now be above the midpoint but we have a
problem with that because what are you
saying this about? It's you're saying
that the five are going to be about the
indentation.
Can you really even say that the talking
about the mission says
at the very bottom of the was 32 by 32
and we're going to see soon how these
are going to be six. Soon and at the
ground when you start counting up from
the side of the misb you'd go up one and
then you'd go in one and we'll define
that as that's the base of the
was actually 30 by 30 the body of the
once you've gone up but if you tell me
you're measuring the whole based on five
the distance meaning the vertical height
of the above this isite is going to be
30 and two on each side because that's
what's going to be left after you
subtract the two five am from the 32 six
the sue and also the Mishna says
from the MB went up five amas and went
in one making another one of these
sticky out parts and that's what we call
the nima eso above that the is going to
measure 28 by 28 but if you tell me the
used in the widths of the and the were
made of five so
the misbehave is going to be actually 28
and on each side now maybe you'll tell
Maybe since the extra amount wasn't
really a full the mission didn't want to
count it but it's not really true
because you see the mission doesn't do
that
the area inside the were 26x 26 am but
if a five was used for the andv
the am of this area are not 26 but 27
and here the Mishna wouldn't even be
speaking out a full lama so vice dice
the width of the cy kronise cannot be
measured in five connected what we had
said earlier based on the school. So
inami the garis we mask him that the
measurements of the misb at every one of
these levels bigger than it was listed
in our mishna specifically two above the
four above the and an entire amma above
the kronis and even though it's not
listed that way in the mishna duck he
wasn't going to be adding these single
to point out the difference all right
and this is going to go for a little
while longer but we're going to stop it
now picking up with the mukan for Sunday
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