Menachos 95

Today's d is we are seven lines from the top of continuing to discuss and related to the so the 40 years that the yid were in the midbar they had a mishka when the yid were in the midbar they were often traveling and the Tyra in the beginning of parish midbar discusses that just like the yidden camped in a certain formation with the the golan when they traveled they had to travel in formation as well is while the yidden were traveling the did it become possible or did it not become possible we know that is that any that leaves it that leaves the leaves of it becomes possible would leave the it would now be possible. The question was when the yidden traveled all the yidden traveled the mishkan itself traveled the was traveling did the lack at that time become possible or did it not become possible. So the garra is going to discuss this shila really from here until the bottom of the and by the bottom of the we're going to have more clarification into what exactly the shila was. The first thing says, "We're not sure who said what, but that said he based it on a says, "The same formation that the Yidden camped in was the formation that the Yidden traveled in." And Gumar says, that just like when the Mishkun was camping, it was stationed. There was a concept of when it was traveling. So that's the beer in the holds that did that says that he learns it from a different in the beginning of parishes. The says of would seem to suggest that the is always when it's on the and it's that while he was traveling it did not become possible that says that didn't become possible. What does he do with the dr of doesn't it seem to suggest that just like when they were there was when there was there was as well says he agrees with the but he flips the just like when they were camped if the did not leave the it didn't go off the it didn't become possible say the assumption right now is that the isn't leaving the it's on the it's just at the and and everything is traveling. The point is just like when they were if the didn't leave the there was no so when they were traveling if the didn't leave the there should be no that says that there was what does he do with this doesn't that seem to suggest that as long as the is it never becomes possible says you're right I hear came from he said that I heard that is not the way we understood in but rather in the event that the was traveling on the and had not been removed from the it was still on the there was never there was no that ever said that it would be possibly and the reason is based on the that brought the and we learn from there that the as long as it's on the it's not going to be possible what then was This was if the were traveling and during this journey during this travel the was removed from the question is does it then become possible or does it not become possible meaning if it's on the there's no sh the is when it was not on the says that says that it became possible so it's that same Just like when they were camping there was a concept of when they were traveling there had to be a concept of as well because the says it says in the should travel and we learn from here that even while it's traveling it still has a what does it mean it has a that it's treated like the that if the upon is not on the it's still as if it's in the oily We'll see there's other alas that I learned down from here as well. But it's remained it retained its status of even while it was traveling. Thus despite the fact that the were no longer on the it did not become but the point is the was not when it was on the when it was on the everybody agrees didn't become possible while it was traveling. The question is when it was removed from the it's not on the and it's traveling meaning it's not on the so it seemed to be able to check off all the boxes meet all the criteria and prerequisites to be possible says the no of even while it's traveling there's a there is a that holds that it wasn't possible but the ask what does he do with the Doesn't that seem to suggest the heckage that just like when they were camped there was a concept of when they was traveling there was a concept of as well says again he flips it what does it mean that the of the same okay so just like there's a concept of when they were there was a concept of when they were as well what is what is means it leaves the it leaves the oil it's going to leave the oil because being that which teaches me. So you could have a case from today till tomorrow but at the end of the day what do you want to learn that being that it's not on the thus it has to be possible say but it's still in the and would mean that it left the there's a that says that there is what does he do with the says doesn't it seem to suggest that as the was traveling it retained its status of an so why would it be possible says who does that pos doesn't mean from aik standpoint that while the was traveling despite the fact that it was dismantled at the time and it wasn't erected the way the mishkan was when it was camped still it had it means something completely different it's just coming to teach me the formation of exactly how they were supposed to travel the same the same dull that that I mentioned in the beginning of midbar which described the way he hadn't camped that was true there also was in the middle of the that's the way the the golem were set up it was true when they were camped it was true while they were traveling as well he knows that had to be in the middle from a different thus this is going to be action but basically what the just said was the clarified that was not talking about was still if it was everybody agrees that there was no it's learned out from a issue is traveling thus it should be possible says says it can't be that this was a while the were traveling in the midbar who's not let wasn't allowed to enter while the were traveling the who's not even allowed to enter. He couldn't enter even while they were traveling. But the bottom line is what do you see in this price? So we need the first part. Later we'll need the second part. But for now we need the first part of the says tell me maybe it doesn't mean all but it does mean maybe it means all with the exception of him. If you tell me say that's because you what's the toiate between the Ella says you're right. So and were the two that lived in bubble had gone to they learned and came back with a lot of that they heard from soi came back with his version of what and was but the just rejected that so raven came back from learning he came back he said I'm going to tell you what was going on over here there was and ley whether the became possible while they were traveling the was Not whether when the was on the because when it was on the everybody agrees based on a that it didn't become possible was not when it was not under because it was not on that's not the either what then was there was no said one thing said another thing they weren't talking to each other so to The one that said that there was no he was talking about when it was when it was on the everybody agrees. The one that said that there was talking about when it was said from this affformentioned we can deduce a little hashtag rest of the story and that is that when they didn't travel in the midbar they used to travel at night meaning they didn't travel during the day but they would sometimes travel at night never travel at night. So then they traveled in the morning. Anything that you're declaring now, did it become possible or did it not become possible? Was anyways possible? So they were discussing it in the context of but really it's a more broad general says that where is it they traveled in the morning in by the time the morning came around there was already absolina. So anything that we're clearing now whether it is possible I say it's not possible I say is anyways possible because of oh must be said they used to travel sometimes at night. So if they travel the night doesn't happen for most until so there is the question is is it possible is not possible but says what's the isn't it they used to travel at night and they used to travel during the day. So says no because they always started traveling during the day. So once they started traveling during the day sometimes they would travel into the night but if they didn't start traveling during the day maybe you never start traveling at night said it's from here that they used to start traveling sometime as night as well. And what's the ray? Because if they never traveled at night, then anything that you're clearing should maybe be possibly is anyways going to be possibly asks a very obvious question says that maybe they started tra they traveled only during the day and still it would be they started traveling at 3:00 in the afternoon. So at 3:00 in the afternoon you don't have selena and you have soy. If you started traveling da first thing in the morning. So then anything that your cleric should maybe be possible would anyways have been possible is making a nice but maybe they only travel during the day not at night but they would travel sometimes in the middle of the day. So is the bottom has two and the second as is that maybe it was that they would start traveling either first thing in the morning or the first thing at night. So they would wake up and that's when they would start traveling literally that's when they travel. So to say that they started traveling 3:00 in the afternoon and that's where it's negated despite the fact there's no that's not possible cuz the happened in the midbar again # rest of the story happened first thing in the morning was from that it happened at night as well but it's either first thing in the morning or first thing at night regardless so the had brought this and we brought it to prove one sad and this between and regarding the upon whether it became possible and the B had said another and that was while the were traveling so you had the set up in the and the had to be sent out of their respective right is that true for many I'll ask you as soon as of the Mishkan was rolled up the and the were allowed to enter the place where the was you see clearly that while they're traveling once the is rolled up at that point it's already all bets are off anyone can enter wherever they want to enter is that with the price that we just mentioned the says what would If so, we know that despite the fact we always refer to the but regardless so that you can still bring the carbon pes has a den of a carbon. So the carbon pes was brought said what would be if was coming and it's your nissan and they're bringing the carbon pes and enters the azara now ordinarily if enters the says in this case being that and the carbon is being brought for this does not apply. The theory seems to equate the that's the and the so when the Tommy was not allowed to enter the says that the only time are not allowed to enter their respective it's only if Tommy is also not allowed to enter. So for example where it's that is entering the so there's a that even are allowed to or at the very least they're not going to be so the same token says the rashi explains this at length that now there's no for the m to enter because there's no anymore if there's no for the m to enter this give you no is for the to enter either so the price that says that's going in trouble. Yes. Just like allowed to enter when it's so they're allowed to enter when it's the first that said that where clearly there was no that's going according to who argue with right here exhale. just to speak out one before we go and the shift more about him but a new so the mentioned the idea of the yidden camping in the midbar the formation the saw when they would travel they were in the same formation and a discussion in the gamar whether the dullim and the camp of the yidden retained its status of while it was traveling as it had while it was resting. Number one with regards to number two with regards to and all the that have of which they are allowed to and not allowed to enter whether those were true or those were not true. But that's of course all predicated on the idea that when the yid that were in the midbar there were there was there was there was being that there was there was a that left is possibly is not possibly being that there was a there was a is being that there was a there was a question is he enter or is he now enter so what were these three when the The he sets it up very beautifully. He says the midbar there were three that the had when they were in the midbar. Those are the four each was made up of three. those with the that's where the live that's where they camped which was so was from the inside that was the mishkun was it was called because that's where the lived and that's where the rest of who connect the rabbed this that existed in the midbar, you would have the same three. So what's only it's the old city the up until the what's the upn meaning up until now is called because in the midbar is where the lev lived the didn't live in the harabayas when the yan entered the yan lived in the levim lived in the memes and they lived in but it's a borrowed name it was called thus the is referred to as even when the so it says there were three when the connect three I'll tell you one interesting and the is the bits and discusses it right in the beginning of parish we just learned The ZV was not allowed to enter Machniv. And the truth is not only a Z wasn't allowed to enter Mach any person that's because of that was aid a they're all in this that they were not allowed to enter Mach. If a baleri is not allowed to enter Machnia, how is a ley allowed to be mash when he was in the midbar? The levim lived in Mach would make the ley a carry. If that's the case, not let it be in the inn. So the asked as a that he doesn't understand for all the years that the were in the midbar they would become a balker and if there were a balker is not let it be said classic in the beginning of the second piece inbar of and he says that that not all the really lived in and we have a little bit of a misunderstanding. He learns it up in the says that so he's talking about the be in charge of watching the where should they live they should live this is later says again the is bothered. Why does he have to say it twice? And then the says again, he thinks they were there were the lived in they lived. Their job was to watch the Mishkan and they had to live in Mia which was Mishkan. And then there were that weren't watching the Mishkan, the families of or any that wasn't on duty at that very given time. Where did he live? That's he explains why the first Pik doesn't say the second does say classic. But the bottom line there were two parts. There was the part that really had it. And then there was the other part. What was that other part? It was it was it wasn't so he says that brings based on that there were 2,000 there was a mill between and made at first glance it's why did they have to have that between what was the point of it wasn't and it wasn't so who lived there what was the purpose of it was just it was nice landscaping what was the purpose of having that says that's where the family that's where it was because weren't part of but at the same time it wasn't that was that second so the subish that's the who lived there those whose job it was to watch theishk that's called the That's the alim brings in Ezra. We all know that and many members of they got in rebellion against say why did they get because it was and really it's that at first glance at how did you get what was there was a lot of distance between the two of THEM THERE WAS 2,000 between them that's almost a mile there WAS A LOT OF SPACE between them so what does it mean that there was an says they were living there only Lev lived in Mak. It was only Lev that were watching the Mishesh. They were living. Everybody else lived to the country in that was right next to the go. They were next to Ruven. And as a result, they got that was the but the point is not all the lived in. It was only whose job it was to do what they had to do in terms of the Levian. They didn't live there being that they didn't have to live there. that is avoids says being in that one word was off limits if so then where did all the live they lived in that that was in between but I saw in the from right here on this He says that he found a parish. It's a long piece but just one line says one line he doesn't quote the bits certainly doesn't quote live before but anyway says they lived in obviously they were living without their wives where did their wives Is their wives lived in so it was only the the males that lived in as far as their wives go he's bothered also what about how would a woman be allowed to live in she's going to become aid it's going to be a problem says must be the women lived in it's literally they were they were living in two different but either way whether the is like the that the families lived in the alpim ammo that was between Machn or whether the is like the radal that the men lived in but the wives lived in just a little bit of interesting rest of the story that comes out of this. So whether the wereing that was on or they were praying that was brought so where was it prepared? That's the discussion of this Mishna. Where exactly was it prepared? We're baking bread. It's requires a lot of work. Where was the preparation done? So the first in the Mishna is the kneading the forming of the breads was done outside of the but the baking of them was done. Additionally that's the that there was a between the on the one side on the other side. No all the preparation was done says just the opposite. You should be accustomed to saying was a place in the point is that we seem to have a three-way says meaning everything was able to be done who the differentiates between and would seem to suggest that the mid that we used to measure the amount of soy the we learned so much about last week the mid that were used to measure the soil that was going to be used for the did not have how do you know that because if you were able to do the and the means at the point of the lea and the the had no kadusha. If it had no kid because if it had kadusha it wouldn't be allowed to be it would be possible. If it was allowed to be means it wasn't possible. It means it wasn't it means that it wasn't measured in a so were not but then the says it has to be inside. Why would it have to be inside? Presumably because if it's outside it will be possibly say. So you see the weren't. So were the midcho or were they not from the fact that you could do the and so you see that that mida that measured in is did not have kadush from the fact that you have to bake. You see that theor did have kadusho. Now we're talking about two different one is the iso the other one is the but is they're both and the thinks that all the should be consistent. So either they had kadusha or they didn't have kadusha. So the garra says what's going on here or he says you know this kasha is such a good kasha that I know someone he's kosharzel he's a he's anaharim he's a super duper London and even he didn't know the answer who was this grace in London that didn't know how to explain this Mishna Raface Raface didn't understand but the Gmorra says Raface the gammorra why is it such a You're right. There's a between the and the both but they're not the same. So maybe there's a between the and the say you're right immediately dismisses the question. This is not aasha and this can't be what was referring to when he said that there was an that was that didn't this rather was something else. The Mishna says that the had to be the clearly the thus if you're going to make it possible. The problem is the Mishna also said in the same breath the is not that means they're going to have to bake it on Friday. So if you're going to bake it in a cliche on Shabas what's going to happen when Shabas comes around it's going to be possib at that point it's going to be possibly that was the heard the he commented he was didn't even know an answer to this why is it a reason maybe when the says that was he didn't mean literally. He meant that the people that work who works in the aar theim the mashem they're the ones that had to do the and the reason they would have to do the is because there's reason so what being that there's reason they'll be careful it's two words they'll be careful that it doesn't become couldn't become but not that it had to be really didn't have to be it didn't have to be it wasn't possible you say there was no clich wouldn't be possible either What does it mean? It means they had to be done with but says why would it be that the needs to be overseen by because there's reason they're going to know to make sure that it doesn't become it sounds like only the not the and we're defining now not as physically where it is geographically but rather who's presiding over the process. reason don't make or ordinary people's reason if requires reason because the become during the as well and if the doesn't require reasons because you can maybe fetch and say that when it says it doesn't mean literally it means the work but at the end of the day how you going to explain Why the needed and if you're worried about it becoming thus you feel that the process needs to be overseen by then the should have to be overseen by as well before we go just two short the first is so why would you need reason it's so last week we spoke out that was one of the two chuvas when he spoke about about here too. He brings a Yehuda. He brings that brings a kasha from the bes was a big eloy. who was a and asked that the over here entertained said that maybe when the Tanakama said that the has to be it doesn't mean physically but it means it should be presided by why because you have to make sure that it doesn't become and reason oh be careful the Mishna is discussing two types of breads those are the opening words of the Mishna now upon him had to be matzah like almost all did but we know there were two that were 10 of the 40 breads of the and so and brings the cash he said that I don't understand you tell him you would need to make sure that the become that would explain why the has to be that reason but what about the is just the opposite. Then the brings he says he's referring to brings the he says referring to so was a well-known nice play on words. So he says that who was said he has a onashi's terash who was right didn't know regardless that's what says he says he didn't say an answer says he says doesn't understand how didn't know the answer to this why because just as it's important to make sure that the did not become It's equally as important to make sure that the did become so it's true. Rashi said was explaining one half of the coin but it's says that you can apply the same exact formula to as well. You would need reason for the to make sure that it did not become says the you would need you would need the reason for the to make sure that it did become either way. That's the first second is it's interesting that the gar over here refers to as an so was a big he was we know a lot about speaks out whenever based on another says when they would meet each other they would encounter. They would both be afraid to talk to each other and learning. They would trace was afraid. He was intimidated because was such a bucky. He knew so much. He was afraid to talk to them and learning because he thought that any that he's going to tell him he's going to have a somewhere. He's going to frag him up. goofy people and was afraid to talk to learning because he was such a he was afraid that would tell this is how you understood it this deep guy. Bottom line is they were afraid to talk to each other. says you see from this was a big bulky was a big was a says who's and the comes out that the is oh if the is like that we always refer to he brings this base That's where it's that was the you don't need that wasn't also a big name. I literally went to the knowing he was going to say this. It was to me opened up the and he brought this. Either way, this there's a lot of so if you go through it, you'll see it's and either way that is another another takeaway from this. So the first sheet of the is between the and the of which was done and the which was done. And as the garra said it comes out a very big because the which was it means was therefore it could be done there's no as opposed to the which was also it was stating that there were two other opinions in the said both shim and learned their respective opinions from the same and this is a perf. The says the context over there is running away from Scha's son tells David that his father is trying to kill him. He runs away. He ends up in Noam. He comes into the city of No. He meets the and he tells him that he's starving. he ran away. Tells him a story of why exactly he's running away. He was afraid to say that he was a fugitive of the king regardless tells him he needs some food and they tell him there in the Mishkan that they don't have any food. The only thing they have is the upon him. So says it's fine. I could eat from the upon him and this is the beginning of that exchange. So sees the upon him and the is describing something related to the upon him as says to the rest of the story meaning he told him did that the way understands it that how are you doing it outside this is something that has to be done inside meaning if you're going to do it outside you're going to run into issues that's what he was trying to say meaning it had to be done it was just the opposite he didn't see them doing it but rather he saw them doing it on he told him this is not something you're supposed to do on Shabas it's something you're supposed to do during the In other words, whether they were baking it on Shabas or they were baking it that they would have been baking it on Shabas is because they would have been baking it. It required a thus they couldn't bake it because it would have been possible. that they would have been doing it during the week is because they would have been doing it and as a result there would not be regardless either way saw them doing it the wrong way is what the wrong way was they had their positions respectively but the says that when came he saw the baking upon Is it possible that they were baking? They ended up giving him the upon him because all they had was the upon him. Clearly they had him. That means they weren't baking it. Allah says the exchange must have been something else. They told him we don't have any bread. We have the upon him that was removed from the told them it's fine even though the isashim and even though I'm not a not even from but at the same time he said I'm a ladim that was already removed from the given once it was removed from the there's no anymore and if there's no it's not so I could certainly eat it but even that's on right now which is much more because it's still subject to the laws of even I'm allowed to eat why because said he's a says regardless he said he's allowed to eat it says the bottom line is what do you see from here that did not come while they were baking the was already prepared that means that dead rush of can't be the source of the whether you're supposed to make the on Fridays it's a little confusing but rather so what is the source what is the arguing over meaning over what was in You should always be accustomed to say what do you see from there says the lush of heavy sounds like this is a messy of some sorts. This was a tradition. This is something that was transmitted from generation to generation was based on a you wouldn't preface it with the words. Either way, usually when you talk about and it's in the context of what happened one of the low points of Jewish history of course finds out that the had helped and from there the entire city of ended up being killed the instigator was goes down as one of the in the beginning of and there's so much who becomes the symbol of someone who spoke lash and created a tremendous amount of talks about the greatness of of how great he was in learning. So there's so much to take out of the story of this is certainly a more technical aspect a more aspect with the suggested that it could be this was the exactly how the were prepared when exactly they were prepared either way before we end this morning's daf just wanted to go back to one thing that we spoke about in the previous one and that is we mentioned mentioned the said, so we digressed and now we're going to digress from our digression, but it's interesting. So the said there are three things where you have this that's the idea of being which means that right after a person washes he's supposed to bench incidentally I saw in the Ben he brings from the Arizal that somebody came to the once and he told him that he had pain in his shoulder and there was nothing he can do physical therapy this that the other thing it wasn't working said he had no way of getting rid of his pain of his shoulder and that told him that maybe he's not careful enough to immediately after he washes my to bench and he said that if you'll do that you'll see you're going to have and he said it's because the of are also the of is immediate is a shoulder but either way so the three I want to add a fourth says what does it mean if somebody has in his house he's he brings him to his his table this week's parish that lived and based love on and love and had tremendous from item based that the had tremendous. We spoke from the it was take off immediately after entered the base. So we mention what's the take of it's brought down it's brought down it's based on really based on that says but there's one exception to the rule and that was the because the had to stand by his required the says how much distance is there from so that means more than So we'll assume that is a that's brings it regarding it's so he said it comes from that that if somebody is someone is it's not just a at some point he's going to get it's that was the takeaway but I think there's even more here and that is first beectum a short introduction and that is so the says everyone knows the he looks up and he saw camels and then of course he saw rifle And it was right then and there that was answered that and says what does it mean a person for a wife says the when out what was he ding for? He was diving for a he was being and you know what happened was answered. He was so I heard from the he asked that the seems to be saying was answered o literally on THE SPOT but really if you think about it it's a because had already happened didn't know that had no way of knowing so he goes outside he's lo and behold but really the wasn't answered Thus the had already been wrapped up previously just didn't know. So what does it mean as if to say that was answered. So the truth is the says the same thing the says and the asks the and he answers the of course not but he clearly was bothered with this and says the so there's an idea of that sometimes Hashem answers a person's even before he dabbs But love this. Hashem is answering the Ordinarily. You have to dive in in order for Hashem to answer the There's a concept that before you dive in, Hashem is going to answer the you didn't dive in yet. Ordinarily, what do you mean? If I didn't d how's Hashem answering the but Hashem anticipates knows that you're going to and Hashem will answer the before you even so because of his it was what did he for and answered the what do you mean the was answered earlier? Yeah, it was terrible. Hashem was answering the before already and the did a beautiful story with the big z in a certain city in Europe and didn't know what to do. So they heard about a certain saddic who lived in a somewhere and they decided that they're going to put together pion a very large of money. They're going to give the money to the saddic as piono and they're going to ask the sadic to d for them. So they collect the money, Paula meetings, they go out to the sadic, they give him the money, and the saddic says he's going to die. When the came back, they found out that a day before they had come to the sadic, the whole story had already been wrapped up. The entire pharaoh was gone. They wanted their money back. So they went and they weren't sure if they're allowed to get it back or not. to the do we have a we gave the money to the thinking that there was a it turns out there was no so they wanted to know is there any way for them to get the money back so the maram said no you can't get your money back and he said I'm going to prove it to you because there's a para in perv that describes the context over there was that the had been captured by the push them and finally the yidden got the back and was afraid to take the into base. He was worried he was afraid. He didn't know if it was the right thing to do. So he decided instead of him taking it obviously wasn't going to give it back to the push then so instead he was going to give it to this person whose name was he was afraid says the was in the house of three months and he had tremendous you when heard all this already said no then now he's going to take everyone knows the next but at the same time he was dancing but regardless initially was afraid to take the so instead He said let it be. It was there for three months and during those three months had this unbelievable. What was the rashi says as follows wife and his eight daughters-in-law all gave birth to children during those three months. But they didn't just give birth to one child. They had the bra that the yidden had when they were in so and his eight daughters-in-law all GAVE BIRTH TO SIX CHILDREN WAS that's what happened that was the the asks that it's mashma that this all happened during a 3-month period. So during the 3 months that the was in the house of all these babies were being born. It takes more than 3 months for the children to develop. How is this possible? says to it must have been a n that they were all and gave birth in three months to six children but said these women were before the ever came before the ever arrived into the house of they were readiness with they were just born during those three months but if that's the case if that's the case how does it ADD UP THE DIDN'T COME UNTIL THE THIRD TRIMESTER HOW WERE THEY READY? How were they ready months earlier? It must be that knew that the was going to breathe there and Hashem gave them the on credit. He gave it to them in advance in advance of the actually coming. He gave them the in anticipation of a that this family was going to have preempted them on credit in advance. He already gave them the that's the and the said sometimes Hashem gives in advance of a in advance of a in advance of a school says how do you know that the reason the Yeshua didn't come one day before this was because Hashem was answering the before he actually answered it. So for that reason he said you have no to take the money back and that was it like this says it was a gather of what does it have to do with the sp where the says that it was as soon as they came to the house of bases. What was the what was this that is in the house of now all of a sudden there's going to be says treated like he was the and just like the says in they gota so too when was in the base he got as well because the was like the and just like brought to the house of it's three lines and he says that the beer in that is the same as the beer in if that's the case what do you see in the way explained it that the brought didn't come years after the was in the house of it didn't even come It didn't even come within from when the was there. It came before 6 months earlier the had already come. So when the says it's c it's you see from here that the a person could be from being in his house is a gives on credit. So person someone has the is unbelievable. It's take which means it happens immediately but sometimes as in the case of the with the can even come in advance prior to the actual Mouse.