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Today's is
and we are 17 lines from the bottom of
the two dots
being learned.
So we're moving along in the sixth par
of parab
discussing
related to the carbon the
and more generally the is so the on the
bottom of
said that there are five different
grains that are subject to the isenas
shua
and chief it's in the that these are the
same five grains that are subject to the
laws of kala these are also the same
five grains that are subject to the iss
and
that one can use to make matzah but
the laws of kadesh apply to these five
grains what's the you could have thought
that the laws of kadesh apply only to
and the reason is because what was
matter it was the carbon and the carbon
was brought from
that maybe the is also only
that the is but it's also the other four
types of grain regardless the Mishna
said that when we say that the ish
relates to the five types of grains it
means both the ofad and the ofadesh. So
the better wellknown is as it relates to
kadesh is the meaning
a person is not allowed to eat from the
until the carbon was brought. The
lesserk known is within the world of
kadesh is an isser.
One was not allowed to harvest the tu in
his field until the carbon was harvested
in. And in the Mishna that the laws of
rel to the mean
the of kadesh and h is of kadesh. Now if
you look at the Mishna inside the Mishna
says
meaning all five are
and all five have an
before the carbon the
really it's mur from rashi and really
from the sugia itself from the Mishna
through the that we're going to start
with right now that the gear that we
have in the Mishna and the Ga that we're
going to have the
is actually the opposite of the way it's
supposed to be. And really the way the
Mishna is supposed to read is
and essentially what the Mishna is
saying is that the
is
or
until the carbon was brought. We know
the carbon is what was the
or
until because what was matter the
of it was the of the carbon the carbon
as we're going to see in the suga was
done bel
itself was brought beyan all carbon were
brought during During the day the was
done the night before
is the second day pes which in is the
first day in
the night meaning the first night of pes
is when the was done and it was the next
day that the of the carbon was done but
here's the point the point is that
you're not allowed to harvest any
until the harvesting of The that was
ultimately going to be used for the
carbon. When was that done? that was
done on Pes which essentially means you
were not allowed to do any up until Pes
Pes itself you can't do
and once
Pes comes at that point you'll be able
to do the because then you're going to
do the of the carbon which will
essentially be of the so the Mishna says
you want to know what the is
up until now of course you can't do it
on PES. That's because it's one of the
you anyways wouldn't be able to do it on
PES and really as soon as the first day
of PES passes you're going to do the of
the which will be at that point the of
the hence the Mishna says you want to
know what the is
until now the wording is a little bit
tricky it's because number one
P sounds like PES is what's M pes is not
what's m what's It is the the of the
carbon but being that the of the carbon
was done immediately after the first day
P. So therefore we could say P
is anyways and at that point once you do
the it's going to be M. So again the
right is that the of is until the carbon
was brought the
really should have been until the of the
carbon but the way the Mishna phrases it
is up until but again the point of the
was there's there's inside the not only
but the
and now is going to begin with the
sources. How do we know that the
and the
are both all five grains?
You have to change the gear.
What's in the card
said
it says with regards to this and it says
just like
so
again we have to change the gear
is up until and it's true again for all
five grades.
It's learned that also from not but
rather it's learned that from it says by
and it says racious
as well in the context of the carbon
just like as the mission said iso mean
so too when it comes to it's going to be
all mean as well. So again the summary
of the first few lines of the how do you
know that the
not only but it's
learned out from
learned out
and is learned out
from
so the Mishna had said per the proper
that the of is up until the was brought
says
Which stage of the carbon
said it means up until the of the carbon
said no until the carbon was brought. So
going backwards says what does it mean
that the carbon was brought? It's what
we always thought it means until the
carbon was brought. What does it mean to
bring a carbon? So this is a it means
you have to be the so until the of the
sees for the definition of
is there's going to be
said you want to know what it means that
the is until the it means until the now
speaks out there's no way that the of
the which was dumb would be m
And this is really based on that we saw
in the last several that's you would
have to wait until the day. So what then
is
that once it's
once the sun rises on at that point as
long as the was done it's going to be m
so you don't need to physically bring
the carbon you need to do the but it's
not the alone that's going to do the
trick. It's the together with because if
it wasn't there's nobody in the world
that holds that is going to be. So
really according to you know what the
Mishna is saying is
if you did of the carbon
you actually have to bring the carbon
says the let's see if there's a insight
into this
said
and again we have to change the gear
over and over and over again.
are.
So the Mishna said that there's an is
and there's an but the expiration date
of this is until when this is applies is
different for the for the
says that what does it mean that there's
an
of the and we know that there's an
until p which really means until the of
the well then I Understand?
I understand why the Mishna made two
categories. We made the
and we made the we didn't lump them all
together because they have the different
the
is the
says what does it mean that
means?
Well, if that's the case,
then it's not really two categories
because the
are both up until the Well, if that's
the case, we shouldn't have lumped them
together. And what we should have said
was,
so why do we have two categories? We
should lump them together. If they have
different then I understand, but if it's
one, they're both so shouldn't we put
them together? Now, Rashi speaks out.
One second. Even though According to
Rabina, the man of
iss and the man of is also
but it's not the same thing. And the
reason is because we mentioned that even
if you hold that
means you still have to wait until it's
until it's at that point there's nobody
in the world that's going to hold that
there's going to be as opposed to the
you don't need as soon as you do the
it's going to be okay which means that
the
are not one and the same that's similar
they both don't require the but one the
m and in the other it's
together with
that would be true if it was literally
one's man. It's not really one's man. So
Rashi says you have to say that even
though it's true, it's not really one's
man. But the maka holds it could be
one's man. The reason it could be one's
man is because what would be if was done
right before it was done very very late
at night. Well, at that point as soon as
the is done, it's and now the was mira
and it's
m. So it's true in the event that the is
done earlier in the evening and the is
not happening for hours later. It would
come out the are not the same but there
is aims with the could be the same and
that
could be the same. So
and now that's only a if you hold that
it's only in hair if however one is two
completely different then of course
there's no but the bottom line is
because of this of the says we have to
revisit the says no way can hold what we
think he held because it's literally
from the
you have to say that we had a a
misunderstanding of the
as a matter of fact they weren't weren't
even arguing on this part of the
mission. They were arguing on the
Mishna, but a whole different part. Not
the safet of the what did the S of the
Mishna say? So the last line of the
Mishna was
the how do you know if something is
considered part of this year's crop so
that the is going to be M. So the Mishna
said it's to if happened already before
the then is m if didn't happen then the
is not going to be m you have to wait
until the next until it's on that line
of
the debate at this point what's the
totally in the
he said it's totally in the in
Seriously. In other words, when we say
did the happen or not happen, at what
point would you need the to have
happened in order for the to at what
point of the bringing of the would you
need the to have taken place? That's the
it's the if at that point the took
place, you're good to go.
No, you would need the already happened.
That's what the cave is. That's what
they were arguing about. They were never
arguing about the
that for sure is not in the that's for
sure in the actual it's that way
because otherwise
what then are they arguing about?
They're arguing about a completely
different part of the Mishna, the safe
of the
is it
or
either way says the
told
who lived in his generation. Now
obviously if is talking to he's talking
to the of his generation. If you look at
the only reason the Gar is saying this
were two and we want you to know the is
talking to
he's not talking about
who was but either way this is what he
told him.
I do not want you to sit down. You
cannot sit down until you explain the
following thing to me. What do you need
explanation?
What's the mart to this idea that the
had meaning this of the end
and this idea that permeated really the
last few this is one of the biggest in
that
but it's so asked what is the source to
this there has to be some uh biblical
source this is what he wanted to know so
he told back mean you want to know what
the is I'll tell you because the says
caramel
so this is discussing the
and the pik says that the masurim had to
be brought from now ov means that it's
already ripened now from the fact that
the terra says that it has to be brought
from ripened.
It sounds like that really you could
have brought from something that's
then no you have to bring from here's
the point if anything that's not of
anything that's not right is not part of
the then it's part you can't bring the
from that because if you're being m the
you have to bring from the in order to
be m so if the definition of
the definition of that's included in
this sug of the
the carbon and the respectively is
something that's fully ripened. Well,
then it would be that the would have to
be brought from and the reason is
because if it's not of it's not from the
and that's you have to bring from the to
bear
and the fact that the has to emphasize
that make sure it's that really could be
of it could be. So
as long as it's as long as it was rooted
that would be enough for it to be
considered. But the Gar asks the very
obvious question the B inserts the word.
Maybe you're right from the fact that
says had to be
could be considered even if it's not
but maybe it has to grow a certain
share. What chair is so we know is like
a magic number in these agriculturalis
but the bottom line is how do you know
is enough doesn't have to be fully
wrapped doesn't have to be of but it has
to be something
is from somewhere else it says
I'm sorry it says
that after the carbon was brought. So he
was supposed to count seven weeks. When
do you count the seven weeks? It's
from the time that the so the is the
sickle began to do its thing with the
standing grain. It's from that point.
Now we see from here we see from here
that the carbon had to be brought from
something that you were able to use ash
for. Meaning something that required a
sickle. Now, why would the Tyra have to
tell me that it has to be from something
that requires a sickle? If it doesn't
require a sickle, well, that means that
it's already so
not ripened that it's not even
what do you see from
that there is something that's not ash
and it's going to be considered from the
well. If that's the case, you can't tell
me that the only time it's going to be
okay is if it brought a schlish already
because a schlish is ash. And you see
from the fact that the says that the had
to be brought from something that's ash
that even something that's not is
technically considered.
So you can't tell me that
is if it's because I know from that that
no even if it's
even if it's less than for sure be okay
or for sure it would be considered from
the well if that's the case what's less
than
that would be okay but the says and here
too the inserts the same exact word
maybe you're right you see from here
that considered even if it's not
but maybe it has to grow at least to the
point where it's something again it has
to be something
if all it has is that would be okay but
said I'll tell you why because it says
from the fact that the says also it has
to be from that was brought from
standing grain was that really could be
even if it's not standing grain again
it's the same exact if we're telling me
that the had to be brought from and
that means something that's not of
something that is not subject to the
something that's not even that in of
itself would be okay now at the very
least is so it must be that this even
something that's less than that would be
considered and that's probably something
that merely had but the Gmorra again
says and again the inserts the word
maybe right even if It's not a baram
means that it's able to stand straight.
Aam would mean that you could bend it.
So maybe it has to have more than
something grew but it's flimsy. You'd be
able to bend it. It's not but at the
same time it's more than
always means this is the end of the
conversation. So said it says
from the fact that it says in the
so again it says regarding
and even though by the way is talking
about so that's more of a
just like the carbon was so it's really
one but the bottom line is you see
clearly regarding the in the carbon it's
totally in the Shaz is going to be
enough. But the has one followup
question.
It sounds like all you need is so even
before. So why is not enough? Why is the
so the says
ra
was told by raba meaning raba responded
to papa and he told him
he said it says the word bas take a look
at rashi
rashi says what does it mean has a whole
bunch of one says
another rashi says is that we Rapa used
to make beer and because Rapa used to
make beer so he had his like secret
recipe he knew how to make in a way that
uh other people didn't know and it's for
that reason it he was known as Rashi
says means
it's a that brings a person but the
bottom line is ra referred to our papa
as he told him that the answer to your
question is it says basodic
means that you didn't just plant it but
became a the only time it becomes a is
when you plant it but also it's rooted
but until the it's not a that's how you
know that the is going to be either way
what's the recap of the latter part of
the
how you know that once something is
already it's considered and at that
point the carbon is is going to be m
it's learned from the fact that it says
regarding
Ironically,
but has to be part and parcel of the
which would mean at the very least there
was already either way the or the Mishna
now is going to discuss different
related to the of the carbon. So we saw
in the previous Mishna that just like
there's an is of there's also an iser
of stating that the Mishna now is going
to carve out a lot of times where it was
mut for one to do it was for one to
harvest the
even before the carbon itself was
already harvested says
you had to do
with
in a so is of the first
fame. This is a field that's irrigated
as long as it's deep in a valley, but
although you're allowed to harvest, so
you're allowed to go and cut the but if
you want to make bundles of the that's
something that's already not going to be
okay. We're going to see in the reason
is because you weren't allowed to bring
the
from it was considered inferior quality
and being that you weren't allowed to
bring the carbon from there you don't
have the
is only from where you can bring the
carbon but being that you could bring
the carbon from there it's not going to
be a problem. So therefore
you're not let go and make piles and
that's for a different reason.
that if you're going to be you may come
to eat it
that for sure you do have and it's for
that reason
the people that lived in
they used to do
and that was just said it's
also that was we just said you're not
allowed to do it but even though
a person is allowed to
before the has ripened. So says
unripened if he's using it to feed his a
lot more about this in the said when is
this is only true if the didn't grow ash
yet once it growlish it's going to be a
problem says if you look at the
and from there it's that as long as you
start before it growl even if later
calls it's going to be okay says
is not limited to the he says no even if
it growlish it's still going to be okay
a lot more in this
another time a person's allowed to do
even before the is if he's doing it so
if somebody has in English saplings and
amongst the saplings he has and he wants
to cut that it's fine and the reason is
for the same reason we mentioned earlier
cuz you can't bring them in from the
adds.
So therefore, there's no additionally
in the event that there's a B and they
have to have the of the and they need
place to sit and the only way they're
going to be able to have place to sit is
by doing that's additionally if they
need a so that too if they needs a place
to sit. So you you'd be allowed to do
and what's the reason that
it's because of the mitzvah and being
that we're dealing with a mitzvah says
and it's for that reason it's going to
be okay. Now the Misha just gave a few
times where it's okay for us to do
specifically this last list
says the Mishna stating that
all these cases now bundles
you should leave them untied
there's a mitzvah to bring the carbon
from right then says
so from standing graz So let's say you
couldn't find
you could bring from bundles
there's a mitzvah to bring from moist
you could bring from jo
the mitzvah is to do the by night
if you did it during the day it's going
to be okay if the was not during the day
tomorrow is going to discuss what is but
the
wasab regardless the mentioned a whole
bunch of different is related to the
carbon.
It began by saying
of
a
irrigated field that's
deep even before the of the carbon you
can't bundle it. Then the Mishna said
that the
were
the
meaning they were and the
says you're allowed to do it
says you're not allowed to do it
that were not so now is going to discuss
everything that we just mentioned
you don't see every day said
you should do the bring the carbon This
is a little bit that you could do of
before the carbon was bought except
there's another that says
that no the
has to be the carbon which would imply
before the carbon okay
said
you know what the is coming to tell me
that there are times there are times not
and it's totally am I being that I could
bring the carbon
from or not. If the answer is yes, well
then it's going to be awesome. That's
racist.
If however I'm doing that I can't use as
the carbon that's okay. That's
and afterwards
as and this is the
to the first of the
we said what's the reason? It's because
he can't bring the carbon from there. So
what it's because there's a
that's coming to teach me that there is
a head as long as it's not from a place
that he can bring the carbon asks how do
you know that the way was
the accurate way maybe
what the means that sometimes there's an
exterior sometimes there's anx is not is
it a mo from where you can bring the
carbon nightmare. Maybe that's not the
mim is not what's maybe it's the min
that's if it's a min from where you can
read the carbon what was the carbon
brought from then
don't cut the first for yourself cut the
first for the carbon if however it's
something from which you can't bring the
carbon
then
so maybe the way you reconcile the is to
teach me that is
what's thear's terret the first part of
the daffar says
he can't say that because the mission
already said that
had a to it
so once you have you have a at that
point that's not an option
how then
must be that's the to the first line of
the now the said
so the
they were
and they were from the base. Now the
part was the part was but the Mishna
makes an emphasis and says
that the were not the is going to begin
we'll speak this out with a very subtle
dick. It sounds like this was a
situation where were not as if to say
there were other times that the did
things that were not okay and
meaning and why is that even a sug
if they said were involved in different
controversial practices and we know the
were on some and not on others. This is
on the list of
This is the background to the initial
take on the man's
who is the who holds that there were
interesting
observed and that sometimes
and sometimes they were not
and that's the case
is of the opinion that when the
went ahead and did it was does hold
now it's but
does hold
in other words the is suggesting that
the has
because he's the one that has a called
with the not for this controversial
practice the problem is that is you
can't be
as a matter of fact is going to prove
that held that the
who were
like the Mishna says did that
which would mean at the time of so is
the only one that we know has a of were
and we also know has a that when the
were based
So is the
we have a big problem. again says
there were six things that did that were
three of them were
the following were the ones that were
and this is another incredible they used
to graft the palm trees the entire day
which day
P. So
there's a major in fact whole per that
discusses could you do you not do so we
know it's a mic
begins with this this before but the
bottom line is this is a could you do
literally can you work in your field
so the
would be the entire day even after the
additionally They would bend. So what
does that mean? It means they wouldn't
be
specifically if you look in the
says they weren't between
and
additionally they were
even before the carbon was brought. Now
these three things
even though they were but
these things the following three things
they weren't just but they were also
that we know that's our
additionally if they would prune tree
carob trees and sycamore trees and
shikma respectively that belong to
hectish they would have ho from the
pruned
branches and they didn't treat it as
being hectish. Additionally,
they would make holes
in their fields and their gardens. And
the reason they did it was to allow poor
people in. So they would breach the
fence.
So anything that fell would be able to
eat during hungry years. tell you they
would do this on you think this is a
beautiful thing but this was actually
also the reason were afraid that the may
come specifically and go on top of the
tree and beer and end up doing the
bottom line is did three things these
three things the three things that were
they would be the entire they were
and they were
the three things that they
was they were
they were na from the pruned branches
from the carob and sycamore trees of
hesish and finally they would make these
breaches and their friends to allow to
come and take that fell from the tree on
chabas and y
these are the words now notice ra is
talking about six things of three good
three bad doesn't say a word about three
were and
Who's the one that has the we mentioned
this five times in the beginning of this
part of
if these three things that you just
mentioned were
how come everybody doesn't do it? I mean
the only people I know that do this or
that did this were the if this was
everybody should have done
I have a different understanding of this
messiah
all six things everything everything was
and the list is
where there were two lists was three of
these six
and by the way my six is a different six
as
And went and he said first the three
things that were not okay
but not
number two so far so good. Number three,
this was
however
and the following three were the ones
that was
so far so good.
Also so good.
And the third one was they would make
pay even onus. Why is that a bad thing?
The reason it's a bad thing is is
because pay is put on. So essentially
they were being ruckus which is not
really subject to the laws of from and
those three things
went ahead and the bottom line is we
have over here
regarding six things of and these six
were divided into two groups three and
three like the better three and the
lesser three according to the better
three were three things that were done
the lesser three were things that were
done according to all six things were
done the better three were the ones that
were and the last three were the things
that the bottom line is in Yehuda's list
we need
holds that one of the three things that
were not was they were
did both like we have in our
problem is the problem is that seems to
hold very very clearly that
were done.
Well, if that's the case, can't be the
town of our said that
was the told me. Okay, so who cares? Let
the town of the not behud since when is
that a problem?
Okay, I'll tell you why it's a problem.
Because the Mishna is that
on the and the only one we know who has
a
right we appreciate the after we see the
so the only one who has such a is the
if that's the case it sounds like the
mission is if the mission is
holds that was also not the how do you
make sense of the missions of It says
according to you
mean you're asking a what's the you're
bringing this as a as a how you going to
now reconcile with our mission this says
or
the says
well according to you has seven things
why do you have seven things because the
three things that
That's
that's one. So now already you have four
and then you have the other three that
the bottom line is you have seven said
six. How could it be seven? You have to
erase one. Which one are we going to
erase? It's easy. Oh, we're going to
erase everything is going to show. Now
you have no to erase. But to make the
we're going to erase and if we erase
like this
of the Mishna is
if the T of the Mishna is
so don't you have a isn't
that you're not allowed to be no you're
allowed to be said
that's if you have that
so obviously you're not going to have an
issue the Mishna continued And the
Mishna said
another example that one is allowed to
cut the before the carbon was brought is
in the event that he's
so is unripened for. So in the event
that the is not ripened in that instance
it's going to be okay. But the Mishna
adds and this is going to be a big deal
in the
which implies that the only time it's
even is if you're being the Mishna then
continued and the Mishna mentioned
with regards to the
said when is it true that you could be
that's only if the didn't grow yet and
like we spoke out from Rash and the
Mishna that if it
started the before it grew then you can
go v after it grew. But the point is it
has to be that it didn't grow ashim
said
no it's okay even if it already grew a
so
whether it's only true if it didn't grow
yet it's so shakas it's so unripened or
even if it already grew a says we
learned aishna over there and where's
there so this is aishna is pa peric b
michishna olive Ifa
over there is discussing what's
considered a heik in a field with
regards to the laws of paya that would
now make the two sides of the heik into
two fields and that would require the
owner of the field to leave not one pay
but two payers. So we know what pay is a
person has an obligation to leave the
pay of his field for the anishn
over here says that there are times that
there's something inside a field that
can be deemed a division within the
field so that the two parts of the field
will now be considered two individual
fields which would be mai two different
payers. So the Mishna says what's an
example of things that are
a streamlash
says that's a body where rainwater has
gathered
or a path that the takes or a path that
the takes
or is like where again either the takes
or the takes but only if it's and then
the is that it be considered
during the summer during the winter as
the hab or if there's a area within the
field that's completely fow there's
nothing there the haneer or there's an
area that was plowed
or or if you have a field where you have
one type of zera that's growing and now
in middle there's a patch that's a
that's something else or
this is what we need in the event that
somebody would go and he would be
that would be considered a
say as it relates to
it wouldn't be considered a only time
doing work inside the field would be
considered aikes
only if you went ahead and you did but
if you didn't plow it all you did was
was
that in itself is not going to be a so
the gives a whole list of things that
and then at the end of the list the
Mishna mentions one controversial item
in fact it's a matter of debate
if somebody
He waser the he harvested the produce
before it was fully ripened according to
ra that's a hik according to the that's
not a now what's the in ra the ram is
that if a person is kiter in the middle
of a field that can't
make that area a heick to divide the
field into two parts and the reason is
because
being kitser a field is part of what you
do with a field and being that it's part
of what you do with a field. So that's
just
it's not like some weird thing that you
have in the middle of your field. If
however you that's not considered and
being that that's not considered. So now
we view what's in the middle of the
field as being and it's for that reason
holds that too would be. So whatever's
on one side of where you would have
whatever the other side would also have
say no even when it's not going to be
considered if you plow with fields
that's already a whole different but not
says the
rabbis
this is going with the inishn what say
in our that it's to be kitas
before the carbon was brought or before
the of the carbon nightmare and there
was the is that true only if it didn't
bring a yet or even if it was already a
shim said
what do you see for
that as long as it's unripened it
doesn't matter if it has a or doesn't
have a either way it's not considered
and that's why even though it says in
the
has to be it has to be but this not
considered oh holds that the is not
considered considered that is literally
holds that of is not considered.
Therefore that area that you becomes a
heftic it's even though regular not
what's the regular is hence it's
considered part of what you do at the
field as opposed to is not hence it's an
anomaly it's not something that you do
at the field in other words of is that
is not it's literally from the fact says
any example of shakas even if it's
already is considered hence mayor and
so this is what said over in the name of
the great so the says
so was sitting he said over what
had said in the name of the great
was there and he turned to and he asked
him a question a question from
in the event that again a person has a
field and we're trying to figure
what's considered a so if grasshoppers
would go and would eat from this field.
By the way, this is another
or if ants would go and would eat part
of the field or the wind would destroy
part of the field
everybody would agree that in the event
that he was also would be considered a
halfish
but if he wasn't it wouldn't be
considered a halfic. In other words, the
price says that when it comes to
grasshoppers, ants or wind making some
sort of destruction, everybody agrees
that's not a halfic.
not now said
when the Bryson says who does the Bryson
mean
even though Rameor holds that ordinarily
is a half but
is not considered a halfsake and that's
why even to what the said what saying
according to
that would be the case when it comes to
but says and this is talking asking on
what had said over in the name of the
says I don't understand why would be why
if when the said is considered a it's
talking about whether
Then I would understand why the BC is
different.
is talking about where it was being that
it was considered a if it's considered a
you would have to be
but according to the name as recounted
now by that
said that is not considered even
that means also holds that it's even
it's not going to be considered well if
that's the case I don't understand
over there
where you did a proper
not considered
over here where you didn't do a proper
like it shouldn't be considered in other
words said that this says
that it's not considered a halfick is
obviously ra he's the hakim Which means
that even though Romeo says a shakas is
considered a halfsick, this is
considered a halfsick. And said there's
no way in my mind to be able to make
sense of this. How could it be a
is a half sick as opposed to these
things are not a half sick? Let's
explain a little bit better. Why does
hold is a half sick? Because it's not
not a what do you mean? It's not it's
just some strange thing. If the farmer
goes with all his farming tools and he's
not considered
why because it's in a state of so you're
gonna tell me that
over there it's going to be different.
It's not possible. There's no way in the
world that that should be considered a
myak. If this is not a myster then
there's no way that's a my because that
was done by grasshoppers. It was done by
null, right? It was done by the there's
no way in the world what must the terret
be the must be that the only time mayor
said that is not considered is when it
didn't grow a certain stage yet where it
was if it was late vlish so it's so
unripened so that's not considered in
the event however it was at that point
the is going to be considered but if
you're going to tell me there are many
holes that the is not considered a even
where it's a so if when the farmer does
it it's considered when the
should be considered exterior. So how
would you be able to make sense of
being in that case it has absolutely no
and this
is on what said in the name of the name
which is that
as if to say
I think from this price it's he said it
only where
it would be considered
it wouldn't be considered a half in fact
Even a
would be considered not to be a half sex
either way. So the gamorra says that
because of this you have to say raor
that what meant in the name of was that
not
but rather
just the opposite is goingud.
What say?
He said a when is it true that your
letter beer
before the carbon is brought
that's only if you started
but if you started after was already
at that point it's going to be that's
precisely like we just proved from the
way we reconcile it must be hold
and now we're ready we're going to say
that was on thus
is not just the opposite
but asks one more
it's true that you see holds that is not
considered if it's but when did say is
not considered that's the
he only said it
if you're being he didn't say it if
you're being because if you're going to
tell me you said it even when you're
being
then what would emerges in our Mishna
that that there are really three shittas
and in the mission there's only two
shittas. What does that mean? So we made
this when we learned the Mishna. We made
the when we started the garish said you
could be
it was very clear that this is only true
that you could be if you but if you be
then already not. Now now commented on
that. He said
was he said but the ising that it has to
be that there are really twoas in this
meaning and are being in the not arguing
with the now if you're going to tell me
there areas
that means that didn't say only where it
was
being he said it even if you're being
why because a mayor said it will being
he to make a distinction between Michael
and if a mayor does then if that's mayor
that would also have to be well if
that's the case it would emerge then
that there are three in the mission how
so
you could only be number one holds
that it's true even if you're
who probably being that didn't say the
words is like is going to say
even for but what's going to emerge is
that you're gonna end up having threeas
if
you're going to have three in the now so
what's wrong why can't you have threeas
if you have three shittas so says I'm
going to tell you what the problem is
the problem is
that says
wherever he says the word is coming to
be mafarish. If he says then he's coming
to be but the word a masai is being
mafarish and over here he said a masai.
So if he says a mosa is being mafarish
so for sure there's three shittas over
here there's two shittas over here
there's not three shittas if there's
only twoas that means
that means also holds only works if
you're being that means it can't be
because although
they're both saying something very
similar eerily similar they're both
talking about this of being and not be
considered but according to the who's
being it's only true If you're being to
be whereas according to it's going to be
true or according to I should say in the
pay it's going to be true even if you're
being so first the thought that maybe is
with shim and the gar said it can't be
because of the under
then the thought maybe ram is bashita's
but the gar says it can't be because
talking about even being and said which
means he's being he's only saying it if
you're
So the says so came from and he repeated
a lot of things that he heard init
specifically from the great said that
you want to know said
wasn't going
rather he was going and again he wasn't
going because clearly holds that the
only time is not considered
But once it's at that point
is not even he's not going
said that the only time is not
considered is if he did hold even so is
he going like
who said
that even is not considered what's
this also
similar The case what we were discussing
earlier if somebody turns his field into
a leopard
and he left rows of that were moist. So
what's the case? The case is where
somebody has a field that has rows and
rows of and he went ahead and he plucked
every other row. So he left one and the
other one he was
says that being that you have gaps of
rows. Each row is considered an
individual field and pay
to give pay for each individual one.
No, it's considered one field and you
only give one pay. This is what we need
to send.
The only time
is
it's only if the things that you took
out you took out. Now apparently when
somebody was
he would use he used
says not only is but
so if you took it out so then it's
considered a half sick each row now
becomes an individual field
if someone's at the store and when
people were they were after it was
already fully ripened that's what you're
putting you're not putting away
something unripened you're putting away
things that are ripened law in that case
it's not going to be considered a heaps
but what do you see from here says
Ravimi you see from here that holds that
if somebody is it's not considered
meaning it creates a
and even if it's which is exactly
that even is considered not being where
do you see because he said
who eats clo
so says
that didn't
because said it only where it's said it
even where it's he didn't mean said only
and he said he meant talking about it's
bingo but asks one
came he said a little bit differently
used to say
so
is saying something different not than
what said even though maybe indirectly
he is but what said
but what do you see from here you see
from here that according to
if somebody would go ahead and he would
be even if it's
still still the
would be that you would be I'll call
well if that's the case
is being where it was already called
right and by the way it's for sure more
than we know only said his
even then only but according to it's not
yeah you see this of being but it's
even where it's a situation where it's
more than in other words according
You see more than holds that the only
time it's not considered is if
you would see the held even more. So the
says that according to this you would
have to say
the
mayor would still be but
how so
that there's a concept of a not being
considered even where it's not like
reading the where it seems like it's
only
it's true even if it was called whereas
according to it's only going to be
if it was.
So the bottom line is the topic of the
very very last part of the was the next
line of the
is an idea that if someone's not
considered in our Mishna was neg
it's not considered in that instance
it's going to be okay in the isa it's
where if somebody does a in a field but
it's not considered
It would create a heftic in the field.
So now this field would be in multiple
payers potentially.
What emerges is a whole bunch of
different shittas. Number one, in our
mission, it would seem that the only
time is not considered is only if
additionally
is if is it true only if it was even if
it was from the
discussion from
it would have seen that even if was even
then it could be it's not considered
coin to only if it was and accus
where if it was already bish even at
that point there would be a concept
there would be a concept that in the
event that somebody did some sort of
could be it would render a heftic in the
field but the bottom line is the latter
part of the daf the majority of the daff
discussed the
which mentions different times where
it's actually to do before the so in the
there's also an but there are carveouts
There are times that it's Mishna gave a
whole list. We went through two of them
today meaning
number one there's an idea that a
person's allowed to be
whole discussion about and number two a
person is allowed to be also a major
in terms of the nuances of how you apply
This Allah.