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Today's
and we are 12 lines from the bottom of
today's being learned
from Mir and so we're moving along in
the six
learning is related to the
and specifically the idea that The
carbon
was what was
the carbon was
in the mdto in yesterday's d theor
brought six from the related to
different shilas regarding this idea
that the and respectively were what was
m the first part of today's daf is very
much going to pick up on that note and
is going to continue posing questions
related to this topic. Yesterday's daff
we had six and today's daf we're going
to have four buyers which back at the
envelope arithmetic is going to add up
to a total of 10
on this topic. Now today's as we're
going to see are going to be a little
bit more zim related. Interesting.
Additionally, they're going to focus
more on the carbon
less on the
so the background information that we
need for today's that at this point we
should know is that was
what was the definition of
so we saw in yesterday's d and really
the is aishna that is on the bottom of
which is today's daf anything that had
been hush quote unquote took root before
the carbon was brought was m if
something had been planted but it wasn't
nishrash yet before the carbon was
brought then it doesn't become the
carbon but rather it would have to wait
a full year until the next carbon was
brought in order for it to be mut the
first that we're going to learn is going
to discuss
Someone who had planted tu the tu had
grown. Then he took it out of the
ground. The carbona was brought which
means the carbona was mate. But after
the carbon was brought he took it and he
planted it again. And because he planted
it again it continued to grow.
What continued to grow after the carbon
was brought is going to remain kadesh
until the subsequent carbon is going to
be brought. Which means that whenever he
harvests this thing, it would seem that
part of it should be mut should not be
considered kadesh because it had grown
enough before the carbon was brought and
as a result the carbon should have been
mid but part of it should be asser
because that part grew after the carbon
was brought. It wasn't hush before the
and as a result it should have to wait a
full year until it's going to be mut and
the question then is can I eat this or
could I not eat this so it's an
interesting question let's see an
insight okay
the following question
regarding
which grew a it grew a third before the
carbon was brought and then the farmer
went he uprooted it from the around the
and he planted it again this time after
the carbon was brought and it continued
to grow. What's the what's the lean?
Do we look at the original part of this
that had already grown a before the
carbon was brought. Certainly that was
something that the matter
or maybe we go based on the additional
growth which came after the carbon was
brought and if that's the case
it's going to be until the next carbon
is going to be brought. So a very
interesting question that asked you have
something that essentially was planted
twice based on the first gel the carbon
should be m based on the second gel the
carbon should not be mate how do we view
it you go bust the that's the first gel
in which case it would be okay or do you
go b the
in which case this would seem to be a
problem so it's interesting if you look
carefully at the it sounds like there's
two possibilities one possibility is
it's all going to be mut because you go
buser the other possibility is that it's
all going to be user because you go bus
the in the course of the sugar
is going to throw out a third
possibility which is obvious and that is
maybe it's partially mut and partially
maybe the is
and the is going to be but for now just
ting the words of the gum it sounds like
there's two there's two options that are
on the table one option is in which case
it's going to be completely mut the
other option is that
in which case it's going to be
completely
user if you take a look at rashi rashi
makes two
sophus to the gumar that I think is
worth mentioning number one rashi says
that manaz's case was with the
grew aish before the rashi why they have
to grow a schlish what is the
determining factor whether the is mim is
not matter is when the took place why
does it have to grow a schlish So Rashi
says because had it not grown a schlish
and then the farmer would pull it out of
the ground it wouldn't be considered a
proper pre it's what's referred to as
shakas it would be considered animal f
and if that's the case the carbon would
not be able to be mate in other words
when we talk about hashrussa that's just
determining does it belong to this year
does it belong to a following year but
in terms of whether or not the carbon
could be matter the carbon can only be
materi and if Somebody would pull
something out of the ground in a state
of shakas
wouldn't be mred and if the is not m
we're not having this conversation is
not here but
makes the same that rashi makes and that
is
and explains it exactly the opposite
from rashi says that if it wouldn't have
grown it wouldn't require the carbon to
be because only m and to the extent that
it's shakas so you don't even need the
carbon the only reason
said is because if it's not then you
don't even need the and if that's the
case you wouldn't have to have this
conversation. The other that's worth
mentioning and Rashi says is that when
the farmer went and he replanted this it
was
it grew a little bit more. It sounds
like from if it would have grown a lot
at that point for sure you'd go bus and
the whole question over here is where it
grew. The way that was the
at first glance it would appear that we
could be from something that said in the
name what did say in the name
if somebody took a yalda somebody took a
young tree this tree is how young it's
young enough that the pay that are
growing on it are going to be ara
meaning it's in the first three years of
its life and he went and he grafted it
together with Ska with an older tree uh
a tree whose payrise because it's
already a scana would not be subject to
the laws of who pay now this yald had
perce
the amount of peris that were on from
the time that it was a yaldo still would
be awesome meaning this
trees pays are always going to be what's
the
because in the world of BL has a very
and that is so saying is that even if
you would have 200 times of GD which you
would think is connected the pay that
this brought with it the is it would
still be awesome and the reason is
because Zilbaser
the
we look at the ya which was the ikar as
being the ka in terms of in terms of
what the status of all the peris are
going to be in other words being that
the tree started off being a yald even
though now it was merged and now this
typhus and that typhus technically
should be mut but we always look at the
typhus as just adding to the and if the
is awesome because it's then theis is
also going to be awesome. But what do
you see from here? You see when you have
a sh like this you always go to the
we should be able to be push what was
the shil where you had you planted it
once then you planted it again based on
the should
says another by the way
if somebody took an onion and he went
ahead and he planted it in aim Now
that's a problem cuz that's so the butel
would be
but then he went ahead and he uprooted
the kim. So whatever is going to grow
now is ready to be. So it started offer
but now because you uprooted the kim so
if it continues to grow it's actually
going to be
even if it grew now 200fold it's going
to be and what's the reason it's going
to be because even though like also
but we say that any gets dubbed based on
what the is and being that the is the is
going to be the bottom line is really
from two places for send And for send
the name
there's a precedent from and not to be
confused with each other. There's two
clearly from
that would seem to be the sh that what
you go but the says he really knew he
really knew. So what was his he
was asking on what and had said. How so?
was was it
that you're supposed to go
the
and that's true
could be this were really if you go
and the only reason they went to the and
they said that is always going to be a
problem the camera is always going to be
problem you can't even be because you go
that was
It was to establish and to establish and
to tell me that it's not subject to
but to say the same to say that you're
going to go and that if something grew
and something
which
until you bring the next carbon
that was
meaning knew
he knew there's an idea going but he was
claring he was trying to understand what
they hold do they hold you go
maybe they only hold you go in their
case in my case we're going bus would
really be a either way that was the and
what's the answer
like in many of the in yesterday's
we don't know now the next of today's is
very much
in fact it's very much a continuation of
this discussion of Uh so even though the
Gmorra says the changes the gears
what's the with regards to
this
which we now know also discuss how would
this play itself out as it relates to
say what's the case I'll tell you where
someone went ahead he assessed his
messer obligation
and he was mafish micer okay so somebody
was mafish micer so far so
And then he took the
that he was already miser
from and he planted it again
and it continued to grow. Okay. What's
the shila? So here too you have an
interesting situation because what was
put into the ground you ready from and
if that's the case it certainly should
be right it's not anymore you gave but
then again you
it continued to grow and if it continued
to grow the technically should be right
see this shil very similar to shil
similar to's
case now says knew all the ra that we
had in the beginning of the his wasim.
If you're going to tell me that as much
as said you go that was only but if the
would be you wouldn't go meaning you
don't go
to
well that would mean in this case you
wouldn't go
and say that the itself doesn't require
meer based on the fact that you go
busker and the icker you already gave me
from and as a result the tophus also not
because got you're not going to go bus.
Well, if that's the case for sure is
going to require stating that
what's regarding the
you don't go bust the
so if that's the case is going to be in
a state of which means that in this case
of the for sure would be the shas what
about the how would you treat the what's
the shil do we say that the goes b the
or maybe we're going to treat the and
In other words, Rabbi was clearing a
third side. This third s that we
foreshadowed at the beginning of the d
and that is when pazi presented the shil
the shil was do you go bust at the or do
you go b the it sound like that was the
shil ra is posing now a third side his
third side is when you don't go bus the
is the you go bust of the or maybe you
leave the leave
in his case where somebody was and then
he took from the
he put it back in the ground it continue
to grow. So you have an which is not you
have a that is you're not going to go
bust that we established already or at
the very least we're taking on one side
in the question is does that mean that
you go bust the and everything is going
to be being that the is or maybe you're
going to have a taru is of and not but
the interrupts the sha and the gumar
says so ra was the one that was talking
posing the question so turned to ra and
he said I don't even understand the
Why is this different than meaning
anytime a farmer plants and you take
seeds kernels from you put it into the
ground and that's how you plant. So I
understand why don't we say that
always being that you were right
presumably you and by the way it's not
just presumably because it's actually a
plant from so you already gave your
mistress. So if you already gave your
mistress,
so we should say that part of what you
planted should not be. And we know
that's not true. Anytime you plant
everything that grows is considered. So
Abaya turns over. He says, "I to me your
whole Shil is dead on arrival. You're
suggesting there's an there's a that is
and you have an intim
on top of everything that we've been
discussing up until this point. I'm not
sure where this other is even coming
from because to me it's posit that
everything is going to be
every time a farmer plants a seed the
seed gets completely consumed in the
ground and it's for that reason whatever
grows is we assume is not related at all
to what happened earlier and that's why
we view it as my case is
where somebody took the put him in the
ground again we're not farmers but it
was in a way where it wasn't zar where
the the n that was put into the ground
is still somewhat intact and therefore I
have it that that
should be viewed as really not being
devil anymore stating that if you go
bust the so then it would be an or maybe
no maybe you separate them and that was
a sh but the says
we should be able to be pleased from
something that named
if someone had a litter of that's a
certain amount of onion and he was
meaning he was mistress and then he
planted
so whatever grows is considered to be
meaning even though the original of you
already from so you would have thought
that after the onion grows one lit of it
should be considered already mo so when
you're making you're doing the
assessment And how much you have? Take
everything you have subtract the because
we know one that was really not because
you had already given from it. But
the name that
and over there it's not. So what do you
see? You see that even where it's not
once you replant something becomes but
say not
over there the of the way you plant a
butel is you take a butel you put it in
the ground that's the way they used to
plant it mean that that's the way they
used to plant it so therefore it's
considered replanted because you did
something that's as opposed to to take
the and to plant it in the way that is
suggesting it was planted in his that
was
so here rael that there's no reason to
assume that the
status of it being is negated by the
fact that you planted it again unless
you tell me you go bust it but that was
rail was I understand you're not going
again he's you don't go but does that
mean you're going to go
or maybe what it means is the is going
to be and the
is going to be either way This concludes
the second ibaya. We have no to this
which takes us to the third which we're
gonna see at the end of the discussion
is really I'm quoting Rashi identical to
the second
turn he told them
what's the regarding
so in a lot of you have the
and
invited
is a flower pot that has a hole on the
bottom. So we assume that it's being yik
from the ground. Whatever grows in this
is growing directly from the ground. An
is a flower pot that does not have a
hole in the ground. As a result, it's
not being directly from the ground.
There's a huge If something grows in an
If something grows in, it's growing in
the flower pot. It's not growing in the
ground.
with their eyes. He's a big bottom line
and he tells him
now it's very unclear what exactly the
Shiloh was. But it sounds like from
response that understood the Shiloh was
could I be mafish ma from something that
grew in one
on behalf of something that grew in
another.
So he told him
like I understand if there's no hole in
it there's no hole in it. So it's the
other thing is also why can't you be
mafish from one on to the other. So
tells me obviously he didn't mean to ask
me that mean he was very cryptic
you want to know if it's if you from one
other I mean I'm not sure what the is so
himself is doing to talk to him. He told
him
maybe what you want to know is what
would be if someone had
and then he made a hole in it. So this
suddenly became
and it continued to grow and shil is how
do I view the status right now of what's
inside of it. What's the sh it's very
similar to the cases we had up until
this point cuz whatever grew when the
was
only
now that you made a hole whatever grows
is going to be already
if you go
then what you're going to have over here
is you're gonna have a situation where
everything is going to be if you're
gonna go bust the what you're gonna have
over here is a situation where
everything is
going to be and if you're going to go
boser
whatever grew
in a mat of
whatever grew in a mat of is so then
you're going to end up with a where some
of it is going to be one way and some of
it is going to be the other way right
this is a comparable to all the shils
that we had up until this point right
let's compare it to rail rail was where
somebody took something that he already
gave me from he put it in the ground it
continued to So now we have that was
that was that was you go then it's all
good. If you go it's all bad and if you
you sort of look at it as however then
it's whatever was was whatever was was.
So then you can have a tar of good and a
taru of bad. Either way, Sabaya turns to
and he tells him maybe that was your
Shiloh. Maybe your sh is how exactly are
we going to treat the situation where of
it was where of it was in a in a and of
it wasn't a nut it's and the way Rashi
explains that was suggesting
do you mean
I heard the sh from do you mean
you're going to tell me that you're not
going to go buster over here and the
reason you're not going to go buster
because we're gonna on that side of sh
the only time you go buster is
But not and here if you're going to go
we're going to say was it's going to be
so on the that you're not going to go.
So do you say that you go about and if
you go about the whole Indian is or you
going to say no part of it is
but part of it and that's the and Rashi
says by the way it's could you be from
the to the is only on that side is he
can't be up to but the bottom line is so
suggest this is probably your probably
was not
but
and this is your it's
and he told him did
that if your shil I want you to know I
think here it's it's pos
100% sure what do
but I think as it relates to this sh we
would because over
only in the case where you had something
that already grew. You werees from it
and then you put it back in the ground.
That second time that you put it in the
ground is a completely separate zar.
Right now it is being planted for the
second time being that it's being
planted now for the second time. So it's
over there that ra has his shil. But
over here when you take something that's
growing in the flower pot you put the
hole in it and now all of a sudden it's
been from the ground I don't look at
that as two separate I look at it as one
he I look at it as one is I think that's
the way you have to look at this and the
lumbus of it is is that when the hole is
made and now it starts being yik from
the ground that is the hashrasha right
so a very critical part of the
growth of
urus is the hashra
The act of going and making a hold is
now what's inside the it's with the
ground that in the words of Rashi is the
actual hash and it's pushed over here
that we would look at it as as one big
inion and if it's one big in then for
sure there's no sad there's no sad that
you're going to be able to say that this
is a little bit like this and this is a
little bit like that. have to view it as
as one Indian and if you're not going to
go bus the over here because the only
time you go bus the isra well then
you're going to have to go bus the but
there's no to be between the two where
it's two you could say that the status
of what came from this is this way and
the status of what came from the other
is that way but to the extent that it's
to the extent that we look at it as one
thing that's not something that's going
to be a possibility either way the
fourth and final
had the following
somebody had and he did. So is the
action. It's the that makes
the
so he did
and then afterwards he planted it again
and when it was in the ground he decided
I want that to be the truma. I want that
to be the micosis. Again let's get the
case. The case is we have a farmer. He
has his and now he did once he does
everything is everything.
He then takes some of this devil. He
wasn't yet. puts it in the ground and
when it's in the ground he went ahead
and he was he decided that what that he
replanted that's in the ground right now
that's what he want to be the true
that's what he wants to be the what's
the do we say once he did
it all became
so now that he was the whole thing is
going to be called don't worry maybe
once he put it back in the ground
it loses its status of of because once
you put it in the ground. So now the
meter starts running again. So the fact
that there was a miru is is bottle and
if that's the case it can't be
from this.
But if we assume that once you put it in
the ground now whatever happened up
until this point is null and void. Well
it's not anymore. If it's not anymore
you won't be able to use this as true.
So this was the shabo.
So the rabbon heard the shil and they
turned to abay and they told if
is right
that could be
it would be considered replanting it
doesn't unwind it and as well you could
use it as truma well doesn't it emerge
that it's possible to have
we know that truma can never be
in other
Shila is sort of taking for granted that
the fact that you replanted this that in
of itself is not an obstacle of it
becoming true. The obstacle becoming
true is that maybe when you replanted
it's not but
that sounds like it's neither here nor
there. And this what happened to the
cloud.
Now it's interesting the
sounds like it's a it's not a okay
change the gears. The problem is we
don't know if such a price either. Look
at
says
soan doesn't sound like the right
doesn't sound like the right ga it's a
loss or but the bottom line is that how
even such a sh this whole thing should
be dead on arrival because we know
there's no such thing as true that's
not
here we have the this that we have
that doesn't mean it can't be it means
it means with regards to the
for that it's regarding and the reason
is the reason is
that
because the only time it's possible for
a person to be for eating something
you're not allowed to eat is if you eat
it in the normal way. So in the event
that he would go and he would rip it out
of the ground and he would eat it.
But if he would bend and just bite the
out of the ground when it's in a state
of it would be
and if it's
people don't eat that way it wouldn't be
considered you wouldn't be.
So it's with regards to the
there's an idea of
it's
if you go and you pluck it out of the
ground and you're at zar and you eat it
you will be
but although Rabo's ship seems to
presuppose that it's for there to be a
of true
It's true.
That means something else. That means
with regards to the if a person eats it
while it's says is that true that if a
person would eat
it's not considered
it's not considered eating and therefore
there's no there's no and that's
why is this different than something
that was found on the pink of
the pink of fame. What did it say in the
pictures of
the the eggs of the of
if part of the egg was was outside of
the and part of it was
whatever is inside
whatever was outside
is not. So the background to this that
was in the pinkus in the of is the idea
that the veil of anar is somebody that
eats it good. We're discussing now there
was anar that had a and while it died
part of it was and part of it was if
somebody eats that b is it going to be
mat is not going to be mat. So said
whatever's inside the animal inside the
will be matama. Whatever is outside is
not going to be mata. Now, how's
somebody going to eat what's inside? He
would have to take the and put his face
inside of it and eat it. It's the only
way he'd be able to eat it inside. Why?
Because if you're going to take it out,
then it's going to be outside. So, the
only way it's going to be inside is if
you eat it in that way. Why is that not
we just said
if somebody would bend down and bite out
of the ground it would be considered
well
from what it said and the and where it
would seem to suggest if somebody would
bite into the
to the it would be why is it being if
he's doing something that's really out
of the ordinary it shouldn't be him but
the says no it's
You can't compare the two things. One is
talking about the other is talking about
right.
So to bite out of it in that way is not
considered out of the ordinary. But to
bend down onto the ground and eat out of
the ground that's something that's
completely strange. That's not something
you find anywhere. And it's regarding
that
it's regarding that that the is that
it's
one last
related to this topic
said in the name of
somebody goes ahead and somebody plants
on.
So somebody planted inside an
it's going to be awesome. This is what
the says. So heard this comment that
was in the name of
said to me this sounds very obvious but
saying the name of is that the person
that is actually a malus then I hear
what he's saying. But if he's simply
coming to say if he holds you're
actually not going to be malus well if
that's the case I'm not sure what is
what is that if somebody plants in an
is considered as we know that
if somebody goes ahead and from
so
and the reason you have to give again is
because you
because the pot.
But the bottom line is you see clearly
that it's a tumor. So what does it mean
it's a tumor? It's considered as real.
Just because it's in a flower pot that's
not doesn't necessarily mean it's
nothing. Well, if that's the case
is going to be. Now if you're going to
tell me
well that already I understand. If
however
you're coming to tell me you're coming
to tell me that you're not going to be
that you're just it's just considered as
real. Well, if that's the case, I'm not
really sure what the is. Either way,
this concludes the first part of today's
moving along to part two.
These are the five types of grains.
Not just that
with each other to create a
so
if you have a certain you can bear to
from all these different things
all these things are the laws of apply
to them
until the carbon is brought. That's the
right
init
until PES or really until as we'll see
the first night of PES. So just like
there's she eat anything that before the
carbon was brought there was also to cut
to do on the until the carbon was
brought and that's what the Mishna is
saying. The mission is saying that the
laws of apply to these five types of
side regarding and with regards to the
next
anything that already took root before
the carbon was anything that didn't take
root before the was brought
would remain until you bring the next.
This is this idea that really permeated
the last two daffin a little bit and
that is that the definition the cuto off
as it relates to does it belong to this
fiscal year or not is told when took
place. If took place if it took place
then the is not going to be mice
is a type of wheat
and the other three
are types of five grains
is a type of
are
you want to know is
says the
it's tapa these five things that are
considered grain but as it relates to
which is rice and
another type of grain these are not
considered grains so there's five grains
the mish is making pretty clear and it's
that them yes and everything else says
it immediately what's the mart to this
that it's ta these five and nothing else
said and wants to know what's the as it
relates to specifically we're talking
about first so what's the
from these five grains and not anything
else what's like the big not you could
have thought are also considered grains
but they're not so says what's the
we learned
from and by the way here's another big
time
it says over here
It says regarding the laws of
and it says regarding
so it says here it says and just like by
it's from those five grains not so too
when it comes to it's the same thing
says how do you know that has to come
from the five grains
says
of and we learn from the juxiposition
between the
anything that could come to become
as opposed to these things
they can't become elderly. In other
words, if you're going to leave the
dough of out to rise, it's not going to
become it's going to get spoiled.
is something that could become is
subject to the laws of matzah something
that can't can but here's the point
matzah has to be from the five and we
have
is governed by whatever governs matzah
so if from the five so when it comes to
it's going to be only from the fiveishna
said that the different types of grains
Meaning a little bit of this, a little
bit of that.
If somebody takes or
d
one is the just the other one it was
grounded to the third is where it's
already in a dough. The point is that
for what
is going to have a whole bunch of
suggestions.
So if somebody eats a gets malus so you
should know
them with regards to the they are going
to bear says
if somebody eats outside he gets malus
again has to be a so it would be a
little bit of a little bit of
a little bit of but it would be mitar
says it's
so we know could become but for as well
the
so if you would have a little bit of
this a little bit of that a little bit
of the other thing it would all bear
that's what the B is saying that was
that I want you to know what the is
because really it's not such a it's all
so why should not bear there's a big
here
that the only time
or even when there's a is if it's
similar to the
by the time you have you know all the
was already removed it's
the only time and would become
is if you have a shear without the it
has to be but if it's not then not in
other words the
already
would not be included so what would be
an an example of that right what would
be an example of where you have
something that's not that we're saying
that it's not so if you look at
it's actually the first narrow line
towards the top of the so says
the right the
barley
or the that's inside the
not it's not
the it's not for
I have a
that supports this as it relates to
it's always doesn't matter if it's kufa
meaning you remove the
layer around it or you didn't it's going
to be
when it comes to
and the reason is because the
layer that's around the is And because
it's not it's not which is exactly what
we just said. In other words of
regarding the way is understanding it is
that the
and the has to be to the and just like
the
is pure food. So too the tu and the
would have to be pure food. Ask is that
true?
We learned a
says in the regarding
this is a pretty wordy pos
that becomes even if it's in the way or
if it's in the way that people usually
go ahead and plant it.
That's the way you plant.
But the bottom line is what do you see
from here? That is because it's in that
m of the way you go ahead and you do
this. I thought you just told me
that the is not the says it's not aasha.
One is talking about where the kipa is
moist. The other is talking about where
the kipa is dry. What's the difference?
So really the difference is follows.
Only reason the clip of the even though
it's not technically would be to of is
because even though it's not but it's
considered to be for so is that the of a
pre gets on the takes on the status of a
pre this is 101
and that's what these are discussed but
the of a pre is like a pre so as long as
the clip of the is protecting the so
that would make it a shy and as long as
it's a shy it would be included
is
of it being able to be the only time
it's aime is when it's once it's doesn't
have the ability to be a anymore. So as
long as it's a
that's
at that point it can't be anymore and
being that it can't be anymore. So it's
for that reason it's going to be out
returning to the raid from yesterday's
and that is the suga of
inut.
So yesterday we did part one of the suga
of
today
we'll do the part two. So just to make a
little bit of a a little bit of recap of
what we did yesterday
says
that
is
in
if you look at the no on the
doesn't
is but the really is
the
is
the raam the rift
is
yesterday we mentioned that after
learning
it would seem to be a little bit of aesh
Why? Because in the Mishna it was
and where in it is or is not the said
that all
are only
with the exception of
rebel after further review was
rebel said not and also in today's we
saw it could be rebel holds only but the
bottom line is
is
the one that holds.
We know number one
is
and based on basic elementary
you would think that should be like that
that
should be stating that
following the lead of the
is
and at first glance it's
so yesterday we went through a little
bit
the different that you find in
that talk about this of
>> and what we realized was that although
in our it seems to be and but once you
start compiling all the different it's
clearly a little bit more intricate than
that and based on that if you
recalibrate what you need to do with
Kabak it's not not so posh that
should not be and in fact it's very
moving why
all emerged and why
is
incidentally and this we did not mention
yesterday in our
just from learning so
stating that
between
the word
said
it sounds a little bit from at that and
are arguing how to understand the word
where I says that what does mean
whereas proving from shabas that really
means
what was the
of the
iss
how you read and how you touch the word
that it says in the parish of rebel
understood that it means
whereas understood it that it means
well if that's the case and in
understand then what would then emerge
is that who said that the word of means
would hold like who holds would be so
even from learning
you're right primarily
But now has on his side. Oh, if it's a
whole different
maybe some people, but it definitely
tips the scale and it creates a whole
another scenario.
Additionally,
on the bottom of the
And what were the three mitzvah? didn't
explain it but Rashi did
and said
that really one of them is and that's
and from I can know the other two a
triple double but the bottom line is it
sounds like
also saidur that is that is going to be
and it sounds like it's going to be
So although it's true in the itself it's
but after further review you also might
have
and you also have
who also were of the opinion that is
certain
to that we said you have
which was very much a topic of today's
albeit the portion of it that says
which seems to imply that
we mentioned the
days with
different of how the rabbis regarding
which obviously is
had one and had another Ravina's father
had a third and
were of the opinion
And therefore it played itself out and
there were
and father held
and as a result they held just like you
keep two days of you keep two days of
you keep two days of
the and
but the bottom line is you had the ra of
ashi who seemed to be the who were of
the opinion that is now another thing we
saw in that was that even
of that didn't hold
but held that it was and we spoke out
where does that even come from either
it's or it's
means everywhere or it's because
where do you get this that it should be
so we said from
and it's
because even the
whoadesh is not they didn't say they
said
it was but it's only because they held
that there's no but really
is going to be
that is and according to the it should
be another that we mentioned that's very
very important is the
where the Mishna says that all the were
able to be brought from and you can
bring it from with the exception of two
carbonas two
and they had to be brought from and they
had to be brought da from Israel and
it's in the
reason the time of the holds that they
had to be brought da from Israel is
because the time of the hel they had to
be brought from and the only time you
have is if it's going to
be init. But if it's in that there's no
therefore you can't bring the
from that's the case it sounds like you
have no that holds that is not. So again
at first glance you have
that's the
and based on that you would think
should be stating that you have
which says
and you have the
that seem to also
you have
who certainly don't hold that
you have
who hold like those but at the same time
at the very least hold that
and you have established
that holds that
is not
which is like
which probably will mean that it's
not going to be. So really
as it relates to whether
or
only
held that it's
only
good. That's the but as we mentioned
yesterday, it doesn't really help us
because at the end of the day,
but it's user. So at the end of the day,
It's be it or be it merely and if that's
the case how is it possible that the
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
years ago made that of were not
in the if
based on the
and even if you don't want to act you
want to come on to which you could I
guess but at the same time it's
So in it is so how is it possible and
this is a very very very big problem.
Now yesterday
we mentioned that the most obvious hat
is the and we said we're not going to
talk about it but I just want to mention
the words of the and then not talk about
it. So
is ofenart it's in
and says the following. He says
if a person has stamped
once it's already after
because
maybe it's from the previous year
and even if it's from this year.
So even though it's from the new crop
but maybe the came before the carbon
which would also mean that it's from the
previous year. So said the Rama that if
a person would have stam
16th century just to
frame it a little bit is saying that if
you have I wouldn't worry about it and
the reason is because
again what's the maybe it's from the
year and even if it's from the current
crop but even within the current crop
maybe the happened before the and not
holding it the now but that would be
enough for it to not be treated
But says,
"But if this fool that you know for sure
even came after
the
said that for a lot of situations there
would be an and the you could be." Now
the truth is like this that this is
really a very hard to understand the
to understand.
It sounds like it's one suffic
maybe it's not maybe it's from before
if it's before cuz it's from last year's
crop or it's from before cuz it's this
year's crap but the of this year's crop
came before doesn't care which crop it
is. Allah cares about is when that's the
that's all we care about. So why are you
treating it like fake is be one suffic
another big problem that the deal with
asks the is that we know that the only
time you can rely on and
is only if it's a
but
we're not and all these things are just
wait until the next and you're not going
to have a problem anymore at that point
you'll be able to eat it but the trying
to be
said that Stamped is not something I
would worry about and this is something
that people are on. It doesn't work for
everything but for
it could work based on this
of there being a a spec but the wanted
to be of this really for all situations
and not only for some which the Rama
helps us for because the was not.
So even though the rama made it like but
at the same time there are a lot of
situations where it wasn't going to help
and as a result what are you supposed to
do we mentioned very very quickly and
we'll mention again even quicker the
three that you find here on the side of
the first is the taz the
he said that even though
they really were
primarily based on the mission
that says
and being that in addition to that you
also have a because you have the
so what you're dealing with is now
what's
depends which is first
like
then the knocks out the
said that I think the held that it was a
suffic which came first How you supposed
to know was the Mishna first and then
the kaducian or was the kaducian first
and then the now be that they weren't
sure they said you have to treat it like
but at the same time it was only
if it's a you could be and where we live
today it' be a if we were going to be
and therefore we're being we're going
like the
that's where the grace of comes from
that's what the said so the had a
tremendous to be able to say something
like this but this is something that
only helps for now it's rather
interesting because the never mentioned
the other
which was
to say that should only be. So really if
you want to play the game you have the
you have
that's
not and then you have
which is but also based on the is only
awesome. One of the interesting in that
play out in the pages and countless
countless truas that were written on
this topic is is when you have
conflicting.
So one of the when it comes to inabs is
which is the now how would you even know
how to go about something like that? So
the maka is
that's mentioned
is always going to be more
accurate and is going to carry more
weight than will that's mentioned. So
for example, we talk a lot in the raid
about how this is tucked away, right? So
you could be learning
and there's a very important
that that's in talked away. Tucked away
makes it more but it makes it actually a
little bit less reliable when it comes
to so there was a big fight.
Where is the for
taught us the laws of is the
we don't have right so is the
so maybe that's where it belongs so
we're learning
and over there I'm telling you about
that's the that's where you should have
taught you or maybe no maybe the you
talk about
And the came to be
which was and it had to be maybe that's
and it could be that the
and the held that the to teach me the
laws of would have been our law said
the to teach me this is and that's the
it's just fascinating how kolsak really
really play itself out always but frat
in this but the bottom line is that you
have the first which is the of the task.
The second eight is the M of who brings
from one of the early
who's quoted in from the Rottenberg who
said that it is
like okay but it's
but he said that just like you find that
but only
you shouldn't be between
hees was the same way yesterday we
mentioned Shakazar's but the bottom line
is that the eight of the is that it's
only an issue if you're close to maybe
BL was considered closer to but today
where we're living that's not an issue
and because it's not an issue this is
not something you'd have to worry about
that is a huge huge and certainly if
you're willing to be on this and on this
this is of
on of but that's not the that people the
people is the third if you count the
fourth and that is the the who in his on
the side of the tour
said that he had an when he was learning
he says 30 years ago and I was see it to
the
to the prag and nobody had anything to
say to contradict my that I And based on
we could be of what was this eight so
what was the said that it's true
and by the way people don't cap this the
is that is
he goes with the he goes with he goes
with the but he says have a different
and the is that is only if it is the of
but if it's the of a n Now the reason
this is such a bigish is because it's
who learned it up in aurish
here in
we spoke about that already yesterday
but the felt that is only in if it's
from aid not if it's from a guy and
because of that the said
now it only works if you talk of buying
it from a guy most issues today are if
you're buying it from an hoodi but it
only works if you're buying it from a
guy if you're buying it from it's not
going to work. And the B double down on
this. He said
it's to get up and say that this is a
problem.
And even that wants to
someone that's everyone knows he's
on a person like him could be but other
than that it's even for the
to get up and to say that this is a
problem this is going to be an issue. So
we mentioned yesterday that when the
Bach wrote his pish on the tour and this
became famous said it was a very very
big and a lot of the wrote against the
that you want to be
that's one thing but to take it to the
level and say that it's from
to say that it's when the says it's when
the said it's when the rift said it's
when the said it's and there so many
other
so
in this way and you're going to go to
that length and to say that's to go and
say that and not just that your whole is
based on going to and what might be a
shi this is something that's very very
hard to accept and the Bach was given a
very very hard time as he's mal himself
and his tru we mentioned one of them
yesterday in
But the bottom line is is that this was
something that was really really So this
is really where we ended yesterday the
and some of the so what's la
just want to mention a few things. The
first is
the guy. So the beer hag of an arts
right here.
He brings the whole if you go through
this beer. It's
not all the we didn't speak out
everything obviously but but it's
everything they say.
So the rush the goes through the whole
he brings the mur to the a little bit of
the and then he says that he saw that
there are people that tried finding
gates and he starts going through it.
I'm going to skip a little bit.
So the that's who he's commenting on
said over in the name of the that right
the
who holds that is not
says the going
all the
says the
And the shouldn't have even called the
he should have been quiet over here.
This is what the said. It's interesting
when I saw this guy, it reminded me of
another of the I looked it up. It's the
same exact
the
when it comes to and all the he type of
right the incomment. the the
so he brings the ra the whole of the
then he says quote
they hit the ra already and then he says
that the rama was from the philosophy
you do not but same exact from the go he
SAYS IT ABOUT THIS AND HE SAYS IT ABOUT
that
hit him on the head already and
everybody that's interesting from
But he said then he brings the and he
goes with he says
this is what he says about
this is what HE SAYS
IT'S NOT even worthwhile talking about
the taz and then the taz had an he said
that it's based on and he knocks OUT THE
TAZ
HE'S everyone
that we thought everyone's feeling good
about themselves
and he says
and not even a right it doesn't have
anything knocked everybody out then this
is so it's pretty clear what the going
is right doesn't sound like the going
hell that
is if you look in the m and this is in
so in
of the it says as follows.
That's the
cotton
underline that
go. Let's say you have a little bit of
let's say someone needs
you would have to drink less than a
If you have any
it'd be no at all
said
take is of
can't tell him
if you don't tell him go by
you know
you know that the only thing here
you're not given money to go buy
and you're going to be
held 100%. He didn't treat it any
different than he treates
is also and this is the way you have to
treat it in the this is from so they
bring this is infreb
and this is of course going in the way
of the soap
and
was that's what it was it was no
different that's The whole emphasis over
here he wasn't masking to the bach not
to the not to the taz noises from the
heel that it's 100% going to be a
problem stating that in pland everybody
knows that people will make them and I
spoke to some of the
that I know and really the min was based
on two things it was based on adosin
that the
he was byes. Now if you want a car that
was making it's actually mentioned
before it's from the it's
of course was one of the great
and invas
in the name of the the context over
there is actually they were discussing
an estri so there was a certain estrig
that was called a kfi that seems like it
was a morph morv it came from this place
but it was a and there was a whole was a
whole whether this is good or it's or
it's not good and
the says as follows
and says that if the was a so that's
plates right obviously we could be on
He probably that it's not a
and there's no question to me that
that's what the world
that's why there are people
that they use even though they're
getting involved in because used it
that it's not avive and if it's not
avive what's the problem says
I'll tell you something that I know for
a fact.
The fact that
that's
in the house of the used to put on the
table
because theb said
being that his was the and his was m and
he wasn't just mate he was mate mate
You can't be says if that's the case.
It could be that didn't see that the
wasn't a could be he knew it was a but
he used it anyways. You know why? cuz
you know who's the one that was the it's
also the and that he went with his TO
THE
and he said you CAN'T GO
THAT'S WHY he's okay with
it must be why because he must have seen
that it's not a no because I know he was
all
but the reason he did it was is because
he saw not but he saw and he saw
who said that he went WITH
and was okay since for that reason he's
going to hold it's okay as well but
says it
that's where it comes from so said it's
and this is why it is so it's that this
is the reason but the iss It's not just
the
in really in the whole world the min is
to be and
say a story that
was
and then one day he decided he's going
to do a whether you should be or whether
you should be and he did a and in a
dream it was to the when the was
they cooled off for 40 days and took as
a sign that must be that the is and if
that's the case the started being and
that's what the say over and it's
brought down in different that it comes
from this dream that the had so I'll
tell you
showed me yesterday that in the back of
the mala so if you have the muk not the
vasc but the mala the two volumes at the
very very end there's a little section
it's called cipurim
nices. So there's a story over here. So
there's a story that's told and this is
about the mala muk who was talking about
the bach. So they were contemporaries
right they both live together in Poland
and they theamukas is saying over mises
about the box I'm going to the end of
the story I got the beginning of the
story it's very very interesting but
in so skipping to the end the said over
that when the snifter I'll read it
inside
and he had a big there was a big
and there was a big basel that came out
from
and then there was another cruise that
came out said that the Bach is not going
to need
because the Bach never did one and
because he never did an is not going to
have to go to so they told the Bach
you're going straight into Gan
the Bach didn't want to go to Ganed
and he said that I don't understand why
am I not getting he said because you
don't deserve it but he said I'm not
comfortable and the reason is because I
know there are other sadikim that went
to gehenn be
but he he was not comfortable to be the
one sadic that's not going to go into to
ganed to to not go into he was very
uncomfortable with it
so they made a another
they said is there anyone that knows of
one that the Bach ever did even if he
did a but if there's one a that he did
please come tell us because the Bach
doesn't want to go to Ganed we're at a
stalemate so he's going to have to go to
but you can't just put someone in so
there has to be a reason for it is
anyone that knows anything
he knows
the was once walking on
for your owned and as he's walking in
this impressive way. So there was on the
whole coming full circle.
There was a sh next to a sav.
When the
saw the coming with this, they got
scared. And because of the fright that
they had, they walked a little bit. And
because they walked a little bit the was
from wearing this bridal he was a little
bit of an issue
for
and they put him into
for this of albeit they had cooled off
the gem. Either way, after the came out
and they were
and a lot of that were in all of a
sudden they were
they were able to come out. They were
able to leave
either way afterwards when the B came
into G and they made a very very big
rash. And the reason they made a big
rash was
because he was the one that was
and they were him.
And they told the THIS WAS A COVER. THEY
WERE HIM. They said, "Get up now and
give us a"
and he said, "She has a long great
night." He said for 30 days on the this
is the and this is the
bottom line is is that in the world of
in the world of of the
and there's no inkling anywhere in the
in the
it should be any different than any
others and the way it was treated was
fullfledged sassur.
like we went through a little bit in the
world. There was a whole there and there
was primarily on the back and the of the
it's interesting that when you go
through this whole Indian of of so it's
very very clear it's very very clear
that the and really the started off
knowing that was they knew it was mut
meaning sometimes and really the
intellectually honest way to go through
a is to be open-minded and to say that
I'm going to go through the sa know
we're going to figure out is it Mut or
is it us the back did not go through it
that way it's clear he went through it
with Nas I think he knew it was Mut and
the reason he knew it was Mut was
because he had seen by Sadikim that they
were and if Sadikim were it meant that
they saw by and we know the says
so he knew it wasn't possible that the
and all these were being in something
that's also he knew it was how did he
know he had not and he didn't have
and not
and this wasn't
he knew the so often quoted
that was his and that's the less the
question is why okay
so the came up with an he was to
and they were okay with it. The go says
but the bottom line is said that he was
the guy looked at it differently. The
guy said it's
says what he says by what he says by
it's the same thing. So what are you
going to do if it's
two different is two different ways of
looking at it.
We didn't finish by the way. So maybe
we'll do a part three now. We left we
spoke about the med of the we spoke
about the medish of the
what did we leave on the table of
that will be the next raid