Menachos 68

Today's daf is and we will begin from the Mishna in the middle of so continuing to discuss the carbon. So the carbon began with three of which one is going to be used for the carbon. So the mission says when the came to these he would add oil to it and like most so the was brought like most were there was she there was lavina there was the avoid of bala tufa hagasha kamita hakara there was the shiior ham which was all as soon as the carbon was brought at that point you were allowed to eat from the and as a result literally from the moment that the carbon was brought you walk outside and the shook was filled it was filled with toasted and but it wasn't really meaning because if it was ready the second after the carbon was brought it means it had been prepared previously and says weren't very happy about that we'll see in the why says no and it's okay the Torah says he not let it eat from the they weren't eating from the before the carbon was brought they were preparing it they were doing whatever needed to be done but as far as eating it goes they weren't eating it and as a result it was okay so whether this was fine now at first glance the understands that the beer in the probably is whether or not we're concerned that if you're going to be busy preparing food that you're not allowed to eat is there you may come to eat it or not. So for a mayor says that preparing the it would seem that a mayor is of the opinion that you're not let even be involved with food that you're not let to eat you might come to eat it whereas who says mean that they weren't eating it all they were doing was preparing it he's not concerned that you may come to eat it is that in fact ask you're supposed to do the night before pes If you didn't do it the night before, you could do it the next morning. So in the morning, if you didn't do the the night before, it's also okay. You could also do it at the time that you're supposed to burn the so you could do it around that time as well. However, afterwards, you're not allowed to look for anymore. You can't do the reason is because you're going to be looking for you're going to find it. You may go ahead and eat it say and really the punch line is in the Rashi brings it and that is that no if you didn't do it at night you could do it in the morning if you didn't do it in the morning you could do it at the and if you didn't do it at the you could do it on even the point is you're always allowed to look for now why does you're not allowed to look for once this beer passes because he's afraid that you're going to eat it how could the say that it's was okay for the to start preparing before the carbon was brought so that it would be ready the moment that you're allowed to eat from the and I'm not worried that you're going to come to eat it in says you're not allowed to do once this begins said you have to say there's a difference between and he built up to It's true that Rab Yehuda said it was okay. He was very fine with the Yidden preparing the but at the same time he required them to make a shin. He said that when you're going to cut this, you can't do it with the sickle that was typically used. But you have to do it with some sort of shin being that the way was going to be cut and harvested was with the shinoi. So he wasn't worried that you're going to come to eat it because the shino is going to be your reminder. That's going to be your sh to know that you're not supposed to eat. That's all good for the so the said you should do what is thus is not so worried grinding it and sifting it. So they were say that was done it wasn't done in the normal fashion was also done with so that everything was done with wasn't concerned that you're going to come to really is concerned that's says he can't do once begins why isn't he worried about because everything was done with but the says is that even though the did say that if you're going to the before the was brought you have to do it with a but that's all true for ordinary but that grows in aim of the beginning of this fame is a field that relies on irrigation so it can't sustain itself simply from the rainwater but it needs some tip some manmade irrigation system in order for the field to be able to flourish and the is that in a bloim you're to cut the in the ordinary way. In fact, it's a later you're not allowed to pile up the but you're allowed to cut it in the regular way. So, you don't have a so if you don't have audi come to eat it with says you're not once comes because we're afraid you can eat it said let me explain it to you there's a and it's a very simple the everybody knows is so there's no you're going to come eat you can eat there's you can eat butt you could eat 51 out of 52 weeks in the year so mean that you can eat I'm more concerned by says so you're right when it comes to even though they're busy with it they're preparing it they're harvesting it they're being mira they're even doing it without a a shinoi I'm not worried. The reason I'm not worried is because who eats kadesh doesn't eat is a different storyt but we have a steer in the as well how so said that was not okay to be busy with before the carbon was brought and yet with regards to you could be the so you see just the opposite worried about and they were not worried about which is from what we just said. So told it's very nice that you answered the steerud answering the ste in the now the truth is at first glance what's the ste the wasn't the who's the mayor in the it's the but speaks to the many times he says that when you have aud and that's would usually beh that the is asking steer between and a what's the one's the other one's that's not a steer the terret says if it's the it's very and as a result we have a steer again told you what about said I agree with you the terret steer between like we said you was worried I'm sorry was not worried about was worried about what about that's not either because what are you worried you're worried that while this person is looking to burn the he's going to come to eat it why is he looking for the to get rid of it otherwise he's not looking for he's he's underneath his bed he's trying to find why because he knows he has to get rid of it oh so he's going to find the bagel he said great breakfast let me eat it no it's just the opposite he's been of levoy So why are you worried that he's going to go ahead and eat it? when you're just putting it out to sell to eat there's a concern he may come to eat it when it comes to said a different said that you know it's not fair who said that it's okay to prepare but it's not okay to look for because what did the Mishna say they used to put the chem out but it was ki it was toasted so apparently you can't eat toasted kak and that you can't eat toasted chem so the chem that was out anyways wasn't going to be eaten And so over there wasn't concerned. You're looking for you might find that's and as a result it's a conservative says some have it's a silly terret it's not a real terret why you know once the is toasted there's no anymore that you're going to eat you have to toast it for it to become toasted. So what's going to be you know until you get to the point of kali you'll answer that okay maybe I'm not worried before it was toasted because you cut it you have the same that we had on the top of the so at the end of the day didn't really help us very much because was coming to say a new what was new going to be that was okay was okay with toasted clo was okay with toasted That's all good once it's toasted. But before toasted, you're going to come with different roots and we already knocked everything out. The only terret that we have is the gave that was and that is the because between and because between being busy with food that ultimately you're going to eat or that you're going to sell versus being busy with food when your purpose of being busy with the food is to ultimately destroy an exile. We have a lot more and a little bit more rayish. As soon as the carbon was brought immediately as soon as the carbon was brought, you allowed to eat from the What about people that are far away from? So when are they supposed to assume that the carbon was brought? Meaning if you're in the vicinity of the mikdash, so you know the carbon was brought, everything has already been lined out on the streets of Jerusalem. So you can start eating. But what about the people that are are not present? So what are they supposed to assume? You could assume everything was taken care of when that the entire day of you're not allowed to eat from the Gmorra is going to explain why exactly it is made you seem to be suggesting that really mido if there's no carbon like today you could eat the entire it's histoe to suggest that if there's no carbon you have to wait which understands as meaning the entire says the mission we said could assume that the carbon was brought already because the carbon was brought. So you can assume that for sure was already the morning. He says means you're already allowed to eat from the says you can eat the from the time you bring the carbon. So is it from the time that you bring the carbon or is it Okay. Means which means already you're allowed to eat from the even when wow. So you didn't have to wait for for the carbon in the morning. Even if they didn't bring the carbon, you will eat from the cany. That's so you're supposed to wait until they brought the carbon. But really, you allowed to eat from the as long as even before the carbon was brought says. Is that true? The Mishna says sounds like he had to wait until the carbon was brought. says again they're going to say the P says it but it means when the Mishna says it it also means another the next that we're going to learn later says but again it sounds like again it's a third should be awesome night. Here the Gumar explains it because knew that one day the is going to be built and people are going to say last year we ate people are not going to realize before there was no carbon when there's no carbon but now there's a carbon matter. So zak is making a when msiah comes. It's interesting that he's worried for the people are going to make a mistake and they're going to say last year when we were in g we used to eat kadesh the whole year. No some people used to eat. So now all of a sudden uh right they're going to do the same thing but they're not going to realize no now you have to wait until the the carbon was born. What's the Gar's according to that holds that really even you're allowed to eat from it's only a mitzvah that you wait until the carbonar we're going to make for something that's only a mitzvah said to answer can't ask because are going to learned that held that really means the whole day. So before we go v and the gmorra asks the obvious question on this. So what's the ter means that's what's matter it's now and as a result the whole idea of waiting until the carbon was brought that's only but now in you're you're already you're already good to go. I from it's not that way is making can't tell me he's making about something that's only that's only that's hold has a different understanding about means the whole day don't learn that way doesn't learn that way they hold that's why it's not hold that's the what did the say now we learned in that after that the whole day of should be awesome. What do you see from there? That really the is in galas. He was just worried that people will be confused when the B is built. They're going to think the whole day is M. He made a but clearly he holds a M. Why would it be? That means up until not like clear and not the same. How could you tell me like the clear seem to be talking? Well, they're not talking to each other. They didn't live in the same but they seem to be talking to each other. Anyways is arguing with the and based on the fact that his understanding about it means it's also the whole day. So clearly it's not also the whole day. So the says made a mistake. He didn't properly understand who he thought was that his only says my what does mean it means he and he made it his was based on his what was The Joshua the Joshua was that's means at the end of the day at least understood and understood not the way everybody understands usually un you understand hell that was us until they brought the carbon when there's no when there's no carbon what's the definition of it means that's what it means clearly had a different understanding also had a different understanding and had to understand but the is of course the way understood it the way we explained it when we learned the and that is held that it's true when there was a mto was until they brought the carbon the carbon was brought the is so whenever inzan they brought the carbon here too for you're allowed to eat from the carbon before not after Yes. So as soon as it's in the morning, you're allowed to eat already from the stating that was that the entire day should be. Why did he want it to be? The reason he wanted it to be was because he was worried that when the Bik is going to be built Now already you're going to have to wait for the if the is going to be for already to start eating from the or they may make a mistake and and in a year when there's already a carbon they're going to violate the so to prevent the from being violated I said that the entire day of even though it's already from now this this comes up in another place It's a context over. So we know that we really seven days was only in the mik. It says understood means so does mean the butto in it's only it's only on the first day of the reason we take is and it's based And the it used to be was taken for seven days. But was only one day that the should be taken for seven days. He wanted to make another He also made a even though technically you're allowed to eat from the means the whole day and the beer is brings us over really if we're going to start listing all the there's many many the fourth parac there's many takas made after we're learning the should even so why we another because there was a second there was many there was many mentioned so why we mentioned this it says these two takas made in the same sitting soak sent out a kyra there was villain two very important takas the first tak is we're going to take meaning no matter where you are. You're it doesn't matter where for seven days even though that's not the way it's supposed to be but that's what we're going to do and we're going to dod and another from now on is going to be for a completely different on this mission. He brings a story that happened in 1939. The story was with Ramosa Betawo Alter who was the brother of the Imrais. He was out somewhere in a in a village and he met the brisker velvet. Anyways, they met and they you know they were talking and one day they they go for a walk together. talking and learning and somehow in the conversation this came up and in the conversation they mentioned many so why these two mentioned together and says because the two takas came up at the same time so told the brisker of he says I'm going to tell you something that I heard from my brother the he said that much put these two takas together and he added a he said that really this is mentioned in another it's mentioned in the after we mention that we don't mention the other that is going to be that the two were instituted at the same time thus us even though we're learning I'm going to talk to you about the carbon how come when we're learning about the carbon don't weak mention the of that was the as he said the like this he said it was after goes and he makes a ton the tako was he says he remember there was a bto and they used in the mikto take the lulah for seven days we're going to make a ton of mik that even medina you should take See understood that when we were going to hear this ton they were going to make a grace of they say you know what this means if we're already making doesn't look very good the prognosis seems very what does that mean in terms of when the Bikto is going to be rebuilt if the god is getting up and he's saying that we have to already make why do we need which is going to be rebuilt by next because we'll have a bas anyways If we're making it looks like we're here for the long run, this is long term. And as a result, you know what did? He said, I'm going to make another tako. He made a ton. What's the premise of that cuz the should be built at a moment. And if people are going to say last year we ate already and now they're going to do the same thing and they're not going to know. Oh, last year there was no carbon. Now there's a carbon. So the GB said it was an that after made of he made another often that they shouldn't think that because oft that it necessarily means that we're going to be for the long run. So he said the when he was learning and he said overd is that is true but there's also but is when you're learning you don't need you need after you learn the but you don't need oft and he brings here. Either way, we're not done yet. So, we just mentioned how to understand the about different regarding. So the gives the custom of different as related to the of they used to eat they used to eat it at night on the 17th day mean they didn't eat on they waited until but at night they would already eat it why they held but it's only and even though usually when you're dealing with there's something So if you're not eat that far, we're not going to go. They would wait until the morning of the seventh day. 17th similar idea, but they were they didn't eat it the night of the 17th. They waited until the morning of the 17th. said, "I heard from my mother. My mother told me that his own father he didn't eat is not on the 16th." He didn't eat not on the 17th. He would wait until the night of the 18th because he held like and he was meaning he held that means the whole day is and is something called so you can't eat the whole day the 16th. You can't eat it the whole day of the 17th either. The topic very much of today's daf and the topic very much of yesterday's daf was the of and specifically whether is or whether is not. So what exactly is the it's a it's mentioned in par's theory says caramel caramel meaning wheat you're not eat until the middle of this day until you're going to bring a carbon says that when you enter you're not allowed to immediately eat from the you can't just be a farmer start doing the different in the field the bit and have your food you have to first bring a carbon after you bring the carbon it's only then that you're going to be allowed to eat from the fuadasha When was the carbon brought? The carbon was brought on and the name of the carbon was the carbon. Now in our sug whether this is of eating from the before the was brought is something that's no only init or whether it's something that was init as well said that it says in the regarding the the word and means So that the is not exclusive but rather it relates to as well said that the word means it's only and even init it's only after yes but there's no question that the is going to be inherit now one thing is clear and that is that although the says that the way to be mad is by bringing a carbon. But the is not something that's exclusive to when you're able to bring a carbon. That has nothing to do with that is something that's universally accepted that there's an even when there is no mdash. You could have thought not that way but these are based on that is even when the world is not perfect and even when you don't have the carbon to be the now if you don't have the carbon and this when does become so it's on the day that they used to bring the carbon is it the beginning of the day the end of the day these are but that's clear that's poshit That's that is although in a perfect world is associated with a carbon but it's really not. So based on the we learned if we learned nothing more than if somebody would ask you is not again without opening up what would you think so I'll speak for myself I would have thought that for sure is because in the is between and everybody knows which means we cannot never ever ever pasin like rebel? Does need that says there's four times that we pasin like rebel. So the question is you take the literally not literally but everybody knows that you cannot never ever ever ever pass like rebel and if like rebel the is going to have to say it in b in neon lights. You're going to have to know in this case is like rebel. So for sure you would think that the is that is stating that if you open up a Rambam and the Rambam it's so the Rambam says as follows what's any one of the five types of grains means not eat from it until the carbon was brought on the 16th day of Nissan. If somebody eats before the carbon was brought he gets says the Rama. You ready? And this is a fact and this is true. It doesn't matter where you are or when you are. It transcends place. It transcends time. If a person eats a of before the carbon was brought says the you get it's very very clearly that the Rambam is of the opinion that is if you open up a riff here and the two went and they iser Even if you open up the in this is in it's in it's even nowadays. So brings the but it doesn't get involved in whether it's or it's not but in and this is in says the guy and the to the is the ra and the riff and the rush and the are all pasin like rebel. that is but the cash is why based on you would think that it's and we always pass like the so why is it that the based on the all that is not just even so is that if you go through the and really themselves. this two primary I say primary because there are some secondary and tertiary but there's two primary mus to explain why it is that walked away from the last two and they concluded that issue that we ended the with the Mishna said that Mishna is a Mishna in The third parag and that being that says that so even though it's and ordinarily based on you would say that should be not like it should be like but I have and is like and it's for that reason and that's the way they ask in the way they pass The other primary is there says as follows they were now they were that are often quoted in the Talmudi. They lived in Babylonia right? They lived in Buff. Now they were kadesh and they would eat when they would wait until the night of as were on the eve of the reason they did what they did is because they held and therefore and therefore they weren't worried about in other words we know that it's the were always worried that maybe they didn't have the days of the on the right. So they used to keep two days etc etc because of the when it came to the and the reason is because they held it and therefore they were however they would wait until in the morning before they ate because they held is really again you have to be holding a little better in the said that really you're not supposed to eat when there's no carbon until the end of the day that was only when he made his don't eat until the end of the day of he only did it for the day But for the sake of the not in other words of their meaning was that they would wait until in the morning. What was the because they held that the only thing you need in order to be able to eat from the when there's no carbon is first thing in the morning. So they were m however but they were only for which is the day but for the day that they were being which was for that day they already but the point is that they held that and because so they were but they were on the second day based on the fact because they hold that this idea of waiting until the end of the day is only so Good for the day. They had thera, but for the sake of the day, they already didn't have thera. The says, I'll tell you what my mother told me that father he was so that he wouldn't eat. He would wait until the end of why again holds that is really the entire day of they also held is so you have to have a means you have to wait until the end of your again we're not holding in the but the point is this the point is the gmorra here mentions the meaning of three sets of ra and rahu the Rabon in the Raashi and Rava's father Yeshua they would eat at the night of and the reason the Gmorra says is is that they held that but only therefore there's no so they just treated it as if they were you wait till the end of and then you everything is going to be of they held so they were already worried about they wait until the next morning and his father also held is he also was worried about but he waited until the next night what's that to whether you wait till the next morning wait till the next night that's in whether when there's no carbon you're allowed to start eating from the first thing in the morning and whether or not you have to wait until the night but the bottom line is that all that mentioned papa Yeshua Ashifa and Rava's father they all held that isser not just that the Ashi and Rava's father were of the opinion that is even speaks of that That's why the even it was based on the because we know and yeshiva was the biggest yeshiva in the world and if all the yeshiva held that kadesh is awesome and so obviously this is the way they pasin and if this is the way they pasin then based on that what should emerges that kadesh should be so we started off and we said that based on our seems to be and if that's the case said that the only two times that you have a mitzvah that's was they didn't say a word about it was that was he said yet the ra and the rift and the rush and following the what's the is that you have to know the rest of the story. It's true there's but at the same time there's that and not just that there's a where the mentions where the mentions and Yeshua and the raashi and ra that all held that is also and the raashi the flat held that and based on that based on that that would be but the is like this is that if that's the case then what emerges is very very clearly that is not is iter it's an iso Now if it's an isa then how is it possible that roy I don't know about today but for sure if you read the piskin because uh I don't want to get fact checked but if you read all the piskin going back hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years the all said these words were not onesh based on the fact that you living and if you're living in is is fine what do you is fine. It's not fine. It's enough says it says it to that way that way. OH, BY THE WAY, IT SEEMS TO BE so yeah, if you would learn and all you would know is you would say I know that's why I wasn't mocked. But that's not true. It's 100% false. So if that's the case, what in the world is going on? And just really to bring out the a little bit better and that is that the ra the riff and the rush all that is it's a little bit of a kadesh we said because based on the you would think that is like who hold that what is not what about the didn't mention in the right what do as it relates to there being an so it sounds like maybe it's there's no mention of said the truth is that it's not maybe the Mishna is just talking about things that are as opposed to which is not the problem with saying that is is that the Mishna did say and at the very very end of the D we mention the Mishna that says now what means that's already but what means is no is anyone because that's very straightforward it says which means that when that is an exception to the rule not is it's not but rather well if that's the case and didn't say then would seem to emerge that is going to be so really again just from learning and a little bit it sounds like you can walk away stating that say that's not true and the is the we just learned the Because they ate because they were of the opinion that and as a result there's no we just went through there's then in the world that holds that however so begs the question who is the where did they get it from where did get this THAT NOW IF THEY WANT TO be I don't know that's fine but that's not what they SAID this is they believe this they all this is the way it is SO THIS IS THE WAY it is where it come from such if you look at on the words quote deplete It's a first. Where's the end of the first? It's whe it's very held like those that the excluded excluded only because level it's not awesome. Now, if that's the case, why wasn't it mentioned in the Mishna? Maybe we'll get to that soon. But the bottom line is it's from and from and it's that even the holds that means which means there is no but there is going to be an issue because even if you want to action somehow and you want to tell me that the is like because how could be like let's say we'll give and I okay maybe we passing like but at the end of the day so good so when a person eats today he's not being means he wouldn't get he would get maybe he would be right you'd have to say Right? So you still need something and it's still so if it's still what's going on. So the MS is like this. I just want to be mocked him that there's a safer it's called the cafer was written by a younger man in lakeor his name is ratenber and the cafer is called it's a play of words and it's related to the and it's really really very very thoroughly goes through the whole Indian of terms of being able to understand it's not an easy task has to tackle this because it's tackled one of the suguros. But the bottom line is like this. We have to and that is that although the ra and the riff and the rush and the but not all the held that way. called passionately. They talk about who he was. So the one of the was of the opinion that is not and he based it on one other the last we need and then we could have some fun and that is really the mission says like this we're talking about, right? So, you can bring the flower that those two carbon had to be brought from and they had to be brought from that grew init I'm skipping a little bit this says that the had to be brought from you ready and from that grew is the it's not like the following the learn said the carbon army can be bought from doesn't have to be brought from like the town of said has to be brought from what's in who holds that you could bring the carbon even from that grew in because of the opin opinion and being that it's really so therefore if you want to bring the carbon from it you can bring the carbon from it says that the reason the carbon had to be brought from is because it had to be brought from IT HAD TO BE BROUGHT FROM AND IS ONLY ISRAEL. It's not because of the opinion that be brought from and why it because there's no reason I can't bring it from the only reason I need I don't need I need that's what I need. So if you hold that is not it has to be brought from holds that you can have therefore if you want to bring it from you can bring it from says well if the bas of the opinion is so what does that mean the hold is not so I have in that's that in iser maybe but only and if that's the case says the and he said it that I hold that in is going to be in other words if we do a little bit of a here and a a recap so if somebody asks you just from learning gimmor nothing else just from learning should be should it be should it be should it be so you would say like this is the that we're learning right now it's where holds even whereas say that it's based on that you would think that is like should be. Then again that says is very very powerful in the world of and I have that says I have the brings the great yeshiva and ra's father they were both of the opinion that says didn't want to go so far only if you have but the bottom line is is that if we assume that is like then even if you want don't want to assume that at the very least you have the holds where does that even come from from and other it sounds like it's the and that even though it's only really it's going to be and then I also have the where the Mishna seems to say and this was the great find even though it seems like a but is the one that really made a big deal about this suga where it seems to be a mafur and Mishna from the fact that had to be brought to that is only. So again, we lessened the blow a little bit in terms of how anyone can possibly be under because there is out there. It's not so clear that is but the problem is we still have a lot of work to do because at the very least it's big find good. So it's not it's not but now it's not clear if it is or isn't but if you look up inside and says if you want to look it up inside it's not taking the plates is to say that it's going to be and it's very seem to SAY THEY ARE THE so that we started off that we thought that's probably why people in. So let me buy the but seem to hold that it's awesome. If that's the case again, it's very very very how's then it possible that the was very very when it came to the at first glance what in the world is going on and really if you want to ask the in the simplest simplest way at the end of the day the rift the all so how does this even work so is like The premise is that if you look at the already addressed this issue and this we're going to skip what might be the most obvious to some and that is the Ramar already addressed this but we're not going to talk about the Ramar instead we're going to mention the Taz the and then of course drum roll the B the Taz is in it's in where the pas is awesome says the taz that I know I look around the taz live in boil and he says I see no one's so what's going on over here how's it possible no one's so says that I hold that what was the to the to that is everyone knows the rule we always pin The ter is that's where they were coming from that says that says is like it's true but also is if you have so then already all bets are off then we don't necessarily say oh it's conversation's over now if you have a if you only have obvious Obviously that is like but what about says the then ready you have after all your sleeves up then you have to learn the because the comes after the knocks out the whole says the t I hold that the wish the kaduc and the was or because we know that there's no s to the So based on that they didn't know and they said I have no choice you have to this as but it was because they weren't sure but they had a very very strong that the way you look at this is not as but and therefore they felt that you have to be but says the that could be that when it was shamikun and it was okay to be mach that's when they were mach he says but for us if we would be mm it would be so difficult for us he said because we live in a in Europe where you have these long cold winters and sometimes the is is not ready until very very late and if you're going to have issues with your it's going to be it's going to be very very challenging and because of the climate In the areas that we live in, people took on to be based on this. He says on the days they lived in it was a whole different climate than we have here in Krakow and in where we live. It was a whole different deal. And because it was very different over there. So it was a because that's why says to be observe this is what the T says. Now the taz is the taz but the taz only helps you if it's a so if you're in a world where it's a and you don't know what to do you have a to but unless you're in a this t is not going to get you very far this t is not going to help there's another and that is the the is in sim where the brings the of and the has this made the same exact observation. He says, "I look around and I see that people are very very make when it comes to this. What's he says? I think that you want to know what the belt is on something that I found in a chuva from the rotenberg and in that one of the said what's related to you have to be about right. What about like the basic talking about all the abstract ones? What about this the simplest? So is like this. If you live close to you have to be if you live far from then you don't have to be that's said I hold that is the same thing that when said that is going to be in what they said was that should be but only if it's close not if it's far from in other words saying number one he said It's only okay we have an for that we can live with that we even have to but he took it a step further and he said it's only for places that are close to but places that are far from not we have from the safer in the brings he says because the is we mention that this is that hold of some of that is also Where did that cheetah come from? So we said that it comes from where? It comes from that means even though they said that there's no there is but we said there's an obvious question. What's the question? The question is that if the T of the Mishna is going to mention something that if it's really then the T of should have mentioned it why because it mentioned and according to some and according to all is also only says the because everywhere it's as opposed to as opposed to that's only us in the because it's only us in So there it's different and therefore it wasn't mentioned but this is the said it's to me this is what develops being that this brought down in the it's not like the ram it's not like the riff it's not like the rush it's not like the it's not like the it's not like all the stating that stating that there is a and I think that the is being on this from now this works this works It worked in Europe. It works in the United States of America. It's definitely something that would work. The whole of is a and b it's only for the places that are close by. Again, there's a precedent for it. You find but the bottom line is that's definitely something that's in but this is not the most famous hat. The most famous hat by a mile is the Bach. And the Bach is in the Bach that's on the side of the tour here in Siml. And the Bach was in many. And this is for sure the most famous Bach and it's something that was Marish and it shows the plates of one god one sadic because really Gans state of the plates from that Bach and the Bach said as follows. The B said that even though the he's commenting on the Torah that says stating that the is not that way and it has to have so he says that I'll start reading the beginning is to be it says from that's the there were few that were when I was younger when I was learning he says 30 years ago I made up my mind that I'm going to be in this and I found that it's not this whole that there's a little bit of an and he says I came up with anal and I took my I was he says to you know that was he said I was at and he says and I did it to other as And nobody had anything to say and based on that I think I was right and I think they were all masking to me. So what was the said a very very short he said that even though however the only time is if it's of but if the is of there is no that's the say the everybody's taking now it's of but the of I never heard anyone's not onesh when it comes to of said it's the of a guy and of a guy there is no now to say such a okay I hear I mean I don't know right WHY IS THIS and why is this so famous and why did the need such a reason to say something like this it's because it's and it's not just says it's a mafur so you Take at its word. If on how to learn ai this is the is our it's the last on where the asks the asks that our said that every mitzvah is only in it's not he said even says twice first line of twice How can it mention? So that should be included in the exception to the rule says it's because the is only talking ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT just if the is but if the go as well here says that from this show me that I BROUGHT THAT THAT IS MENTIONED IN THE Mishna must be not only if the belongs to but it's going to be even if the belongs to a god so and didn't just say it he learned it in it's but the hadundes and he said a and that's the that he was mia where he went to and that's the places of So the is saying to be that goes head on and for that you need places. Now what that is is that's for another day. But the bottom line is this is the of the that the wanted to bead that when it comes to this and he says he was to nobody was everybody was mas and then he says also never meant to he was just saying it in perish of the mishna he was already that maybe even tyus would be mask but the bottom line is like this after a very No has a right to get up and say that it's to eat again of a guy wants to be for himself but don't pass this for anybody else because a fight might break out. And by the way, if you want to be a that's going to be on this, you better be someone that is a well and you have to be only then but otherwise it's for you the in your own house. This is not something you're allowed to do. So the Bach didn't just go to the Bach went so far that he was now when the Bach wrote this pish and this came out the first edition of Bach on the tour the whole world and there were a lot of that started writing letters to the and the Yeshua now this is grandfather Shub Yeshua the and they were the two of this and they came out very very against the and they held that first of all how do you say that's you're so confident in your that you're willing to say that if a love goes up and he says that I understand but I hold for we should go that he's and you're not allowed to do that and if you WANTED how could you have such IN THE HISTORY OF THAT someone should have places like this. I understand but at the same this is not something you should be able to do and they came out very very strongly against the Bach. Now we mentioned that the Bach spoke about this in a few different places comes up in a few of his troubas I was going through a little bit this is classic in so the context over there is there was a certain yet he was the put him into he got it so this person was put into by the and it seems somebody's writing a letter to the Bach and they're trying to get this person out of his mativ that he's So the B writes a long cha and he explains to this who it seems is a gi and why exactly he did what he did. We shouldn't think that this was some frivolous need. I mean this the we're talking about but he this was something that he felt very very strongly that he had to do and he starts part reading all the that this did first he says that this came to me once and he started chapping me on my this is what he says came to me and he said that I understand he says you sit the whole day you learn he says why are you learning he says today we have a right pretty recent uh edition the he says what do you need a you don't need just learn and if you learn there's no reason for you to learn tomorrow today you learn and you that's what you should be learning and he was chapping the then the says himself says I'm not in and he started giving me a very very hard time so I punch it very innocently I push it like very innocently he tells Right. That's a very important piece that the B found later a chuva from one of the balas and that seemed to be masked him as well and he goes through the whole in with him afterwards this is fascinating as well. He tells him a short while later says read it inside there was so olden days they used to get married when on Friday. So this was a that was supposed to happen on Shabas but at the same time there was a whole issue within until they needed to go to the literally to resolve the whole issue and they finally were able to resolve it and I made a onabas and this clearly knew how to learn a little bit how you have a right to do that and he writes what was right what was the bakai he says this is a famous most famous he said I was it's amazing that story with happened with the and right they made that no one was allowed to get married on Friday in Kraka because of the rama that's what a hard time the at the time gave the kabas and this one person is giving the a very hard time as well so the kid every move he makes he's giving him a very very hard time the bottom line is that's why I'm putting him then he says he used to get drunk this person he's a shik right he's a shik says very she says but at the same time to he drinks she that's your son and he gets drunk and he writes and he runs around town not a good person and that's why the box said I had no choice I had to put but the is over at the end of this chu he goes through the whole about why he felt so strongly about what he felt and he says one fascinating line also everything ties into everything but this is my he says that the garra says And we know says that it's because it's a he says I saw with my own eyes that were in this and this is an so you have to be and it's also to be that's where he was coming from he felt so strongly that that that's what motivated him to Nalyus because he didn't have another was the only thing he could come up with. That's where the Bach's coming from. It's not some frivolous the Bach sees he sees the Marshall. That's what I'll make his eyes ate. He's can't be that's that's where the B was coming from and that's why he felt so strongly and the people were being on the sadikim and that's probably why the Bach spoke as sharply as he spoke. But the bottom line is the is this three maybe for why the in the minute in not maybe this comes from the of why was when it came to this you have the who said that it's because even the only said which by the way doesn't work for the because the say if someone eats it obviously the it's not but the says it was which helped the taz but wouldn't help us. He had the who was smorking with this rabb where said that the reason this works the over here is going to be based on the fact that um the is going to be based on the fact that it's only if it's something close by but to the extent that it's far away in that instance it's not going to be an issue and then you have the famous famous Bach where the Bach said that if you're dealing with it's not a problem now just to be clear the Bach only helps you it doesn't help you for that already you have come on to the mug of yeah but the bottom line is the is something that now we know there's a lot of and then there's the minig of the litfish world where does that tie into this whole situation so that we'll talk about tomorrow in part So,