Menachos 55

Today's d is and we are eight lines from the top of n. So the topic of yesterday's d was a discussion whenever you have a regarding a do you look at the she or do you look at the she do I assess it based on what I have in front of me right now or do I assess it based on what it had previously been. So if something expanded or if something shrunk, do I look at it in its expanded or shrunken state or do I look at it in what its previous state was? And as we saw the Gmorrah sort of spann the globe in terms of ramifications where this sha would play itself out. It began with which of course is the topic. We're learning right now. There was a sh regarding the which can't be it can't be. What happens if you mixed a little bit of water together with the how would that impact the of the we went from there to a which discussed the that in order for to contract to it would have to be the so it wouldn't be enough if it was a kaz which ordinarily is considered the when you're dealing with food over here would have to be a little bit bigger it would have to be a a but again when do you assess the Sherba and then finally the Gmorra discuss it in the context of the of Truma Miser and Truma's Miser in that context the Gimmorra discussed what would be if somebody was toy figs and he was being from some of his figs on behalf of the other figs. The issue is that some of the figs were in their original pristine state. Others were already clapped. And the question is, is it okay to be from Gregor and from Gregor onto and the discussed in light of this of today's doc begins on that note albeit from another angle. It's okay for a person to take figs and use that as truma on behalf of his groy which are pressed figs but only last. It's only okay to do that if you live in a place where it's customary to make groggy from meaning what people usually do with tenum is they will convert it into grog. If it's customary in this place to do that, then the thought is that it's going to be easy to find people to do the work on your behalf. Thus, we know that the will eventually become that's what makes us okay. We'll see what the explanation of that is in a minute. But it's not okay to be on even if you live in a place where the again is to make from Gregor. So an interesting yesterday we looked at it more from the technical standpoint. How exactly should you be from Gregor Midish? Today the Gomorrah introduces a bryo that says it's not even so simple in the first place to ever be from grace onto in fact says the you could be from grace but only grace it's not okay to be from so before the explains the bryo two things number one there's an idea as we'll see soon when it comes to micer and truman specifically Trumaser which by the way is what this price is discussing. So it's discussing the ley who already got messerish. Now he has an obligation to take from his merish and give meer miniser what the refers to as trumas micer. But regardless there's an idea that when you're going to give me micer that it should be you should do it by you should take the best the choicest of your produce and that's what the ley should go and give over to the ken. From that standpoint, it would make sense to give versus Grogress because is considered more. It's considered more choice than is the Gris. On the flip side, there's also an idea that when you're giving a cayenne trum or again in this case trumaser, you should give them something that has a longer shelf life that has a later expiration date and greg are preserved longer than you're going to have to convert them into gregoras if you're going to want them to be around otherwise eventually they're going to go bad. And that's one of the reasons they would take make them gregorous like this. They had a shelf life otherwise it's like fruit. It spoils eventually. So there's a mil to give to because is considered there's also a mil to give because on the sky so with that backdrop the analyzes this price but it's okay to be on. It's the same men. One is in the form of tenum. The other one is already in the form of gregorous but only in a place where it's ruggle where you'll be able to find people to take the tenum and make it into greas. So the makes the obvious it's very clear on the bra that the only time you can be from tan to greasers is if you're going to be able to find someone to take the and hack them to where they're going to be if there are present in this where you're being then what's the issue we learn then it makes sense just give the to the you'll be able to the of giving giving from the choices which is the you worry that the are going to go bad. What's the issue? Give it to the leader. What's the problem? Says the gumar. It's obvious the only way to make sense of this and the is the lack of kay. Oh, there was no cayenne being that there's no cayenne. Even though ordinarily you would want to give to aim because it's min but you don't have a kay to give it to right now. And if you're going to wait until you find a cayenne, it's not going to be anymore. To the contrary, it's going to spoil. Thus, it would be more to give which is a stating that says the Bryce, you could be as long as it's a gregorous because then we're comfortable that you're going to find somebody to pay to make from thus the micer will not go bad and it's for that reason it's okay. In other words, the gum is making an in order to understand the first line of the is we're dealing with someone who is a ley. He's being and there's no present for him to give the that's true. How do you understand the said it's never okay to what do you mean like what if there's a I understand why there's not to give is the that's the that's the choices and there's an idea that you're supposed to give from the choices but if we made an already in the first line of the skill then how do you understand the second line of the brao Why no just the opposite. If there's no then the rule changes then you don't give then you give you give what's going to last the longest. Oh, so the second line that Bryce is probably discussing where there is a kite does make sense one two lines and twoas says the racial the first line of the is talking about whether there was no the is talking about whether was a papa heard this discussion and he made a a general comment he said no I can take out of here in addition to to the itself can you be from figs to gak to figs vice versa there is a cayenne there's no cayenne but says rapa I could walk away with a macro fundamental principle in how you are supposed to be mafarish prices was an am we're in the business of explaining prices so papa said I can walk away from this discussion with something very very important and that is that if you have two choices how to explain Choice A would be you'd make an in the BRA that referred to as the or there's another way you can do this. You could say the entire is talking about the same thing one but you're going to make the says papa it's clear from this discussion that it's better to make betray one thing is clear obviously had another way to explain this and papa felt that if it was okay to be mafarish this ali with the you would not have had to make that the is the and the is the now this is not really the learning right now so we don't have to digress from the digression and and really explain what that means but if you take a look at it's a one line what would that have been says that really the entire price is talking about what was vatio raon There is audi either way had a way to explain the entire price of it like and the one is the rabban the other is rahuda clearly said it's better to be before we go v and completely shift gears and change topics just one. So one of the that was mur and this kamar is that it's better for a ley that's giving chumas miser to give. So if there's a kite in front of him, he's giving his chumas nicer and he can give either tenim or gorus. Same thing that both figs, but a teno is a nice fib that you just washed and it's a full the gorus are already pressed. It's better to give the teno than to give the gorus. What's the reason for it? Because the tan is considered it's considered and theor says that the idea is you're always supposed to give in fact if there's a you're not allowed to give because it it's not okay. You have to give the truth that this idea is a it's a it's tucked away. It's at the end of parish. Everybody knows the beginning of parishes. But now everybody knows the end of parishes kayak and end of parishes after is challenged by so Hashem reinstates as as being the you have a little bit of a of what you have in his sons his family his ultimately are going to be the and you have the whole parish of the so where are they in the I don't say But the rather inbar it's in the end of par the very last of literally the end of talks about what we've been discussing you should go to the tell them as follows when they get their messer gives the so they have an obligation to take which is also referred to as which is also referred to as and you should tell the when they give their true they're going to get the same that the gets when he gives me so in the mitzvah of messer as well how they're on the receiving end of the messer where do they contribute in the mitzvah of The answer is they give me and that's what the says which by the way the Gmorra throughout learns out so much lumbness from the words that what the saying is that Hashem says that the ley will have a in the mitzvah of how so by giving his and then the continues and says and tell the when they give me they should take it from their boy. So what does meanboy is take from the choices and that's what they're supposed to give. So this mitzvah that the ley was supposed to give his chumaser from the offense in the Torah says and all you have to do is to know that means and then the continues and the says etc. If they will follow everything I just said they will not do. Now what the Pik is saying in the end is that if the ley will follow everything I just said he's going to give then he doesn't have to worry about any that he may be carrying but clearly if he won't give chumas it's going to be a very big deal meaning not giving me is the equivalent of Israel not giving meer at all if doesn't give me micer and he eats his tea it's very very terrible if and messer if a ley doesn't it has the same exact it's going to be a big deal. Thus if he's going to follow what I just prescribed him it's only then but the raitz according to makes another in the says the over in this the emphasizes the terrible that the ley will do if he doesn't give me in that the over that when the ley gives chumaser it has to be he has to from the choices says the raz you see a in this even if he gives from user but if he doesn't give he doesn't take the choices he gives he doesn't give not only is it not but it's he's going to be he's going to have to walk around carrying a on his plates because the is only if he gives but and if he gives it from the choices. So if he's going to get from the graves and not from the not only is it not but the is very very graphic and that's all going says the ram not only on a lady that doesn't give meer at all but even on a lady that gives chumaser but he doesn't give it. Now the truth is that this idea that you're supposed to give trumas the leas from the to the it's the learning but really it's something that permeates other areas of as well and the truth is the very end of this ra that we've spoken out and we've learned together in the past many times the ra brings it up beautifully the context over there is actually and the rais discussing what type of oils were allowed to be used for and the truth says all oils can be used for it says being that it's okay to use any oil for so why did the say which ones should be used what difference does it really make if you can use you can use that's the raash says the wanted to give you a pecking order so you should know what's the best what's the next best and then the third best etc etc why is that important because if Somebody wants to because if a person wants to if somebody wants the I guess that's self-explanatory don't just bring a carbon it should and says to Raom, you know what exhibit A for that is this week's para brought a carbon and he brought a carbon's carbon was a he brought from the that he was working he worked the field so he brought he had animals and what did he bring he brought me but the emphasizes what does mean we just said what means it means from So it says the ra you don't have to look any further than the first carbon that was ever brought and that's the carbon of the carbon of he and the ter goes out of its way to say that he brought a carbon and right afterwards hashem listens hashem accepts he's carbon not kay's kind gets jealous and the rest is history but the point is that you see there's an emphasis in the that he's carbon was accepted because he brought it and says the ram This is not only true with regards to, but it's true for everything. Anytime you do a mitzvah, anytime you give anything, it should be from your best. If you're going to build a shoe, it should be nicer than your house. If you're going to feed somebody hungry, you should give the best food that you have. And that's how the Rama's his idea of giving is not just and it's not just like you find and he and that the quotes is that's a it's not only true when it comes to but the ra's is and the ra gives example like building and being there's a milo to take your best and the best that you have you should give for a mitzvah then afterwards you should have from yourself but there's a mitzvah there's a milo just like the ley took the and he gave that to and he kept the gregorous for himself every person in his own should take the best that he has give that to and everything else he should keep for himself today the is sites it's to speak out one didn't write a but he's explaining a says a person should open up his house should be an open house you should allow people in you should give you should be and even if it means that he that your own family are going to be like an in other words is to take the better and give that to the other people when it comes to your own family then they could be a little bit humbler but when it comes to the mitzvah the should be the mitzvah should be it should be either way we return to the topic So the first Mishna in the per began discussing a of said had to be two exceptions. Some of the were leavened bread that was brought on was also incidentally it sounds a little bit from the Mishna like was a right if is not a then it's not an exception to the rule of so it's mash a little bit that the was which incidentally is not so posh but either way so the Mishna With the exception of that note, all the were needed with lukewarm lukewarm water. So not too hot, not too cold. It was supposed to be lukewarm. But it was important for the that was doing the to watch them very very carefully to make sure it didn't become. It sounds familiar when you bake mats, right? So it's very similar idea. You had to be you had to watch it. There was a mitzvah of then if it became even if the became there was meaning that's what the Mishna is suggesting is is that the part of the ma that was the part of the one of them certainly wasn't allowed to become the saying that even the even the part of the that was eaten by the even that was not allowed to become and if it became say the success Thus you see from here that the entire is not let it become continues and says another so if somebody would prepare the and it would be he wouldn't just get malus one time meaning it's not just but it would be right you'd be on the afio the different elements of the baking process would all beget their own set of malus and all of this will be discussed right now in great detail in the gumaran how do you know that not only can't the beates but even the can't become now the fact that the itself can't become the doesn't say It expects us to know that you remember you're not allowed to be on the so no on the that we know the is that not only the that went on the wasn't allowed to be but even the that went to the also known as the even that wasn't allowed to be it says they how do you know that it says even happy birthday. Why does the say the already says you're not let him make from the it's very general don't make okay so I would think that if I make somebody took the carbon and he allowed it to become so he would be for making and it doesn't matter if he did the and the and the it's going to be one because it's essentially one say of so the went ahead and singled out says why did the have to single out just like a is one part albeit the most important part but it's one part of the making process and you see the Torah said that itself any other what's that other smoothing out the door point is the point is is that is not an extra because had to not I would have thought that if somebody prepares he's one for the entire process of preparing the to tell me that there's a special malus for but I not only for but for all the other parts of the process of making. So if is not extra how could I dion to tell me that the of relates even to the is assuming that the only way to make that is if the is extra but it's not extra it's I needed to tell me that an individual malus for each date detail of the process of making the say as the no not true there's twoas that we can learn from the number one why is the to single out to teach me that it's not just one malus for the entire process of making them but for each individual each gets it ownus but the also says teaches me something else from the word I know that of the you have for us if that's the case Maybe the whole is coming to teach me one. How do I know two? Meaning how do you know two says it's my said first and then so I would say that the only thing I'm going to learn from here is that but from the fact that it said and that it said from I know that it's not one for the entire but each individual part of the process begets its own malus from the fact that the ter used the word I know that not only the part of the ma that went on but even the was eaten by the even that part has this as well. So just before we go v and the gumar gets into the weeds of of some of these. So just to be a little bit clearer with the so there's really two that today's this part of the is hinging on. The first is in very straightforward says right after introduces the concept of the cannot be straightforward. It's in par. It's one very general. The second is in it too is talking about the carbon. And there the Torah says Again the terrorists talking about the terrorist forward again essentially mentioned it twice. The first time it spoke in more general terms. The second time it says but the first and this is important for the next part of the D is in par. The second is in par. The first says the second says it also says the word mean. There were two things that we learned from the second. Number one, a separate malus for a and additionally the there's going to be a malus for as well. Frank. How do you know from the fact that the terror is singled out that what it means is that there's a separate malus for and there's also a separate malus for etc. Maybe only a that the terrorist singled out has its separate malus but everything else doesn't have its own malus. What do you mean? I'll tell you how I know. That's one of the By the way, if you keep the score at home, it's number eight. So the eighth of the islam. Yeah. Either way, so it's included. So says the so therefore I know that it's not only teaching me that there's a separate malus for but that there's a separate malus for each but the says maybe look at it a little differently. How do you know that the way you look at is that was maybe look at as a as a and again if you're keeping score at home it's number four in's list of also known as so you have where the rule is and then there's a rule of so the is asking a specific regarding is any part of the baking process of the cannot be and then there's a soar says really any part is a not just that teaches me that for each individual part of the process is a separate why because it's the eighth of the maybe it's the fourth of the fourth is And you know what? Maybe the Torah is telling me that only is maybe there's no Israel at all. Forget about malus not even because although it says which is very general it's a cloud but there's also a prat of now the truth is this is a question every time you have a prat every time you have a claw how do I know it's a maybe it's or in the reverse every time maybe it's really that's essentially the question it's a specific question regarding but if Think about it. It has global ramifications. And for this is the rule of thumb. You know when you say when the are next to each other. You know when you say that's far from each other. In this case the is that's in par the is that's in par the four away from each other you literally have to wait for the next to even hear it two different weeks two paras over here you don't look at it as a rather you look at it as a says We're about to digress. Is that true? Is this a real rule that anytime you have a next to each other, it's only then that you can say but you can say and the context of this is talking about the specifically the so the he had to bring a a special type of says Where did he bring the says the is this the I need a regarding the to tell me that the had to be broughten there's a more general in par in the par of and over here the terrorist says So it says already that have to be which is so why do I need a regarding the to tell me that the had to been I know from that had to be you know why the singled out to teach me a rule regarding to teach me that is not it's not preferable but it's even that when we say that has to be it means it's if it's not going to be is that true maybe that's not true maybe you know why the is singled out that has to been to tell me that only the has to be meaning don't make a mistake and think that when it says it means All the have to be no the single tell me that only the says the price of that can't be meaning even though it's an interesting theor says but it's not true because it's there's another that says there's a third in other words that teaches me that every single needs to be softened says the gar do we have we have a a that essentially is puzzled by the fact that the Torah had a single out by the we know there were many different types of there was the there were the permeate so much of the lumbness of not all were created equally and there's many many pars of as we're going to see a little bit now into tomorrow's stating that the Tyra for some reason singled out by the ni that this katas has to be baffen and is not sure why if every has to been why does it have a single letter here and the gar posited two suggestions number one maybe because only the has to been meaning even though there's a general maybe the reason singular is to tell me only here alternatively maybe it's to teach me it's a it's a on is to tell me that the didn't soften isn't only it's says I know the right answer is choice B and not choice A how do I know that because there's another P that tells me that all need so obviously the can't be coming to tell me that only the need says kind of the you see the B entertain the possibility that when the Tyra singled out softening by maybe he was coming to tell me it was only a it was a fleeting thought but a thought nonetheless that maybe the reason the terra single it out is to tell me you hear what's going on is to tell me that only the needs and we need to pause it to tell me that's not what it means cuz what's the only shot I can think of says the is because the par the is a cloud It's speaking in very very general terms and then when the terrorist singles it out by the it's a and we know the rule. So that must have been the reason the gar even suggested that maybe by the terrorist singling out something by is to tell me that only the need is probably based on what's the one is in par and the other one's in par. So what do you see from here that even a you still can look and you don't say no that's the eighth of the you can use it as the fourth of the greatashi heard this conversation and it came with a right not all questions are the same he was very angry he said hey that's what the price of me this is not You know what this is? This is a which by the way is another one of the and when you have a cl you look at it differently. It's the antithesis of of all you have is the you have everything. The point is if anything there's a goat which is in the in so when the bride said that maybe only the katas needs stuff and it couldn't have been based on because it's not a it's a and by the way is right it would have been a prat anyways because it's what then was uses the word in the par of is a it's coming to exclude something. What's it coming to exclude? Maybe it's coming to exclude that was the maybe the word in the par of the which clearly is coming to exclude something perhaps argues the is coming to exclude all other from but not that I would exclude others from based on the me of pract for two reasons a it's a cl and b it's to exclude other from they himself would have been based on the Josh of that's not what is coming to what then is coming to that's going to be tomorrow's but for now for now we will conclude this discussion and just end with one so we have an idea over here really it's the theme at the beginning of the par digress first with the of and then with dealing with and another half of a digression today but really the topic of the of is and today we saw the a little bit. So why can't a be? It's interesting when you think oft immediately word association pes right a pes you're not going to have but really a briska should think of a right or at least also aka because the laws oft impact two and number one on pes there's no and number two the was not allowed to be we had oftis oft come up in two places in you have it in because on p no And you have it also because a was not allowed to have either. So the question is why why can't from a perspective why was there not allowed to be on this says one line. The reason is because you want to know why no because are symbolic they represent the is called the is called and it's for that reason says the you can't have you can't have now where do you find that the is referred to as a well-known that's very often quoted Alexandria when he would finish his after he would finish say he had his own that he had composed that he would recite and he would say as follows a beautiful you know deep down in our hearts we all want to do your but what's getting in the way of that was Alexandria he said who's the everybody knows it's the right is the Marsh explains why the shab is called the sahara very nice here in Kadush I got this but the bottom line is it's a in so you see that the is referred to as the fact that is called says to your shiake but it's self-explanatory the sahara sometime is bottom line is represent when you bring the carbon so it's a very profound balatur but it's also very special. If you take a look at Bakay brings the Ramos of the Balurim and he expounds on it a little bit. He says that the reason that a person would bring a carbon was for kapara, right? Most carbonas were brought for kapara. So you're bringing a carbon. The idea is is that you're walking in and you're acknowledging that you were in the clutches of the eight sahara and now you're coming to do chuva. You're coming to repent. A person that brought a carbon had to be misf. That's literally chapter 1 verse one in the start of and he says every person that brought a carbon had to be that's the essence of and every had to make sure I mean just to bring a carbon that's when Hashem says it came with a chuva and if it didn't come with chuva then to the contrary so obviously a person that's bringing a carbon is coming and he's and he's saying that I understand that I was in the clutches of the atara and I'm coming to do I'm going to remove myself from those cultures. So says that in your carbon there are going to be these two ingredients that so represent what the isaya says that the word dash and the word isa have the same gamatria and says right they both have a shin one has an alf and a which is six the other one has a dal and a which is the same six isha and vash have the same gamatria it says that represents of represents the bottom line is these two have been the cause of man's downfall. Incidentally, I saw the he brings this and he's on it. He says that was completely unallowed, right? Even the we just learned the even couldn't be but the you were allowed to put in the there's an idea of he says because is something that's okay in moderation right you find a man's letter and but even the says they tried and they couldn't be because they realized the world wouldn't be able to go on they were and he says that even if it would have meant that the world couldn't have gone on so that the will not go on is not okay even in moderation but as it relates to the but either way regardless as the that's the significance and both represent the represents the represent of where do you see inash and is 306 they both have the same exact that's the idea