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Today's daff is meas and we are at the
very top line of menes
today's being learned as a
mirror and so we're moving along in the
fourth paris
stating that we're not learning the
part of
rather we're learning
the kum part of
specifically the
related to the unique set of carbon that
were brought every year in the B mikdash
on the yontiff of we went through the
together in par were already several
daffen into the so we know that on the
basto there were
carbon
kosim
and
brought respectively. The was made up of
10 animals. The katas was one goat. The
Schluman was made up of two sheep and
the min was made up of He also talked a
lot about the unique connection the
relationship what the Gar call zika
that existed between the
known as the
and the known as the
we talked about how the was the we
talked about how these gave to
It upgraded it from
we talked about how although the
and are not of each other meaning you
could bring one and not bring the other
but when it comes to the and there's an
idea that one is of the other is
the
additionally we saw
that once you do the
that is now a zika between the and at
that point there's no question in the
world the two are going to be of each
other. Additionally, we talked a lot
about what would be if the
were brought at first glance, you would
think it's what would be. As a matter of
fact, it's the very first in all with
the exception of the
brought
which means you could eat the bus or you
could be
oh the areims. If that's the case, it
should be no different than any
would be
stating that we saw
that when came from
he
that said
is going to be possible and the reason
is because the put the in the same exact
as it did the and just like
So to the
are going to be possible as well. Either
way, just a little bit of a smattering
of some of the that we talked about. We
have one moreish
to go as it relates to this and then
we're going to shift our attention
in the world of but to another very
global.
First more about the
were brought
taught the following
in the presence of Ravim.
If the were brought the was done but the
did the had in mind that he was bringing
the are going to be.
However,
the will not satisfy their obligation of
bringing the kayes with these. So what's
the case? The case is where the cayenne
is bringing the he's bringing the
carbonim but he has in mind that he's
not bringing he has a mind that he's
bringing alim. What does that mean? So
the schlumims were kasim hence they're
known as the keres
the was made up of 10 animals included
in the 10 animals with two aen now a
keves and an isle are both
they're from the same species the
difference is age so the keves is
younger and the isle is older here's the
point the cen was bringing the schlamin
and he had a mind that he was bringing
the now if really what happened here was
simply
so why this fancy language
just tell me what the always tells me
when it wants to tell me related to and
that is you brought the so the ter is
because the price is just explaining why
the would have made a mistake the reason
he made a mistake was is because he got
confused between the and the let's be
honest
the same exact animal off by a few
months maybe. So as a result, you can
see why this mistake would have
happened. The bottom line is
it's
so
the way you would expect as relates to
the
so told him I disagree with you. You
know what I hold is for emphasis. I hope
is that not only is it gonna be but it's
even going to be
now this is already the third it sounds
like as it relates to
the whole starting was of the opinion
that
is regular
then we saw
it over in the introduction to today's
who hold that that's brought is going to
be pos
that seems to be the other extreme. He
says
stating that as we're about to see now
that
respectively had a little bit of a
discussion in terms of what meant and
they both agree on one thing. Rav is not
saying what it sounds like he's saying.
Rav is not saying that
is must be Rav is talking about a a very
unique case of
right the language is even a little bit
of a giveaway as we address but he's
talking about a unique case and it's
only then that it's as we'll see the is
what is that case the first
it's when that
and it's it's talking about
where this
was the he thought that they were again
easy to confuse the
however he had in mind to bring the so
this is a little bit of an so in his
mind he's bringing
which is an he decides that he wants to
bring the and as a result he hasn't mind
to bring guess what it turned out that
it was really the so it was really the
so what he ended up doing was he brought
the schlam
the problem is really it was
because in his mind he thought he was
bringing so how do you look at this
right on the one hand it's
because he's bringing in his mind
But at the end of the day, he got it
right because it was uh that he ended up
bringing
says
it's that said and the reason is
because at the end of the day he brought
aim
continued and said what would be if this
thought that he was bringing aim
And he had a mind. So he thought it was
an a so he thought he's bringing the
carbon and he had a mind not he had a
mind and that means he had a mind to
bring it as an and then it was a that
really it wasn't an rather what was it?
It was aim in that case where this
person ended up bringing the
is not gonna be and the reason is
because this person was of the carpet
and even though he did it doesn't matter
and it's for that reason is it's going
to be
so what's this other case this other
case is where the ken thinks that he's
bringing the has in mind
the shame
And it turns out that he was really
bringing the so
this person brought the but it's not
your classic. The reason it's not your
classic is because it happened the t cuz
he thought that he was actually doing
the because he thought he was bringing
turns out it was a
that if somebody brings a
even
it wouldn't be okay. Now it goes without
saying that would hold that in the event
that he brought a and it wasn't it was
done that for sure it wouldn't be
saying that even when the happened
it's still going to be considered and
it's going to be
so let's meditate on what said because
it's not the easiest memor of says again
what exactly is saying
and
It's going to be
it sounds like rabbis of the opinion
that
is better than
in the best case scenario usually it's
in this case it's going to be it's going
to be
is coming to address that says
absolutely no way that's not going to be
in fact the only time said is when the
person although he had a
but really it ended up being
what is that even mean? Oh, very simple.
He was bringing he thought he was
bringing anah had in mind to bring the
but being that really he was bringing
comes out he brought
so there's no
that case it's going to be okay but to
the extent that about it's not going to
be okay and was even if the
what does that mean where in his mind he
thought he was doing it because he was
bringing a he thought he was bringing
and had a mind
he brought
In his mind, he was bringing in
that's not considered.
But again, that's positive. If it's a
regular even if it's a
disgrace,
it would be like
he says
I disagree with that. He taken a little
bit too far. I agree with you that Ra
never said
when he said he's talking about where it
was in your classic.
However, you're telling me that an Akira
is considered an Akira and to the extent
that in the Can's mind he thought he was
bringing in
if it was that it was
it would be
I disagree with that says in that case
it wouldn't be the only time it's if
it's but if it's not considered so again
is
does invas
agree with you never said is going to be
where he's arguing with him is that
according to even if the was
considered an Rabbi says I think that's
already pushing it a little bit so
really what emerges is as much as this
case is a little bit confusing right
it's tucked away in one of the sachin
But what emerges is is a very general
and that is to the extent that a has a
bad
we'll see in a minute to even to piggle
but for now let's focus on what we have
in front of us. If a
but it was
it wasn't amaz
like this classic example where the is
bringing he thinks he's bringing and he
has a mind now he brought but let's be
honest he never had a mind to be any he
never had a mind to do the wrong thing
he wants to do the right thing he
thought he was bringing anah and if he
was bringing anah it was lashma Oh, it
turns out he was bringing
but what we have in in front of us, what
we have of is that he actually brought
aim
albeit.
According to
that would be a
and according to it would not be
considered a in the vernacular of the
holds
and holds
my have the gear but seems to have the
gear. So we go on my
that I myself asked on my own.
So himself freaked. He said from a
Mishna, this is a classic Mishna in
ironically the Mishna is actually in
it's in but it's something that comes up
a lot in certainly in the related red
bites of
the
if they had
they're considered a mazik
if however it was done then they're
going to be so the Mishna says that
is if they do as a maz where does this
come up in the
right is your classic example of but the
bottom line is in the event that they
had to be show you they're going to be
stating that we learned at a price that
it doesn't matter if the had or if they
had
in either case the pickles meaning with
between and thus is only with regards to
whether or Not
but in terms of whether or not in the
pigle it doesn't matter if the was it
doesn't matter if the so what part of
this do we need pretty obvious we need
the part so it's in this that if a would
have
it would be av
what's the case
is it talking about where the he was
bringing a carbon
and he had now what does it
Schlam
pickle your classic pickle is what he
had in mind to eat the bus. So let's say
now this man of a is
this man of aim it's column is two days
and a night. So if the case is talking
about where he knew he was bringing a
carbon and he had a mind and that's the
example of where the
regular the case must be talking about
it's talking about where this thought
he was bringing
and he had a meaning he thought he was
bringing a carbon whose man is to eat
for two days and a night and As a
result, in his mind, he was thinking,
"Oh, I'm going to eat this buser for two
days and a night." Well, it turned out
he was bringing a katas. And because it
turned out that he was bringing a katas,
so it emerges
that really he had a machev piggle. But
this mak's piggle was an akira, right?
Because in his mind, he's not doing
anything wrong. He thinks he's bringing
a having a mind to eat the B within this
man that you're allowed to eat the Oh,
it turns out it's
from that Mishna
regarding
specifically
even
but at the same time that you see in a
consider which is the right it's a rabbi
himself asked the cash on himself. He
said
who was the rabbi he came to the defense
of his he told him he says I don't think
you have to be from it's okay we can
make this work and told him I could tell
you that maybe the case of is talking
about where he knew it was
and he had now if he knew it was a and
he had soar
right then he's a regular
told him
Maybe the case is talking about where he
was an im. What does it mean? He was an
immut where he thought that it's okay to
have a mash bagel. Now I'm not exactly
sure what training this cen had to
become a cayenne, but you would think
this is like the first thing they teach
you. But the bottom line is he's somehow
he thinks that
is an okay thing. The bottom line is the
was done. It wasn't done. And being that
was done. So it's for that reason the
pickles. So what's
terias is right talking to it could be
but over here it's not an it's now if
it's doesn't that mean he's amazing no
it's talking about was so this because
we know that is always a whether or not
it's considered a whether it's
considered amazing clearly is of the
opinion in this that an is a gig stating
that it's not an because being that he
had in
So since not is that must be talking
about what the mission is about says one
more on this what's
this is actually going to take us down
memory lane as a matter of fact it's
going to bring us back to
said that any
not just that it's
so The opening line of
is very similar to the opening line of
stating that the first deals with
not that way. heals every
explained. He said
are not like
because let's say the
where the is bringing
and he has a mind
when you look at it you see it's a and
you see it's not the is talking about in
the event that brings a right that
doesn't have any oil in it and he has a
that is not a problematic because you
see it's not a You see it's
when it comes to the reason there is
because there you don't have any
reason is because let's say somebody
brings and he
it's for that reason holds that when it
comes to
is going to be
said I want to understand this a little
bit better.
When said that
is he talking about where he did is that
the case he
and he has a mind of said I find that
hard to believe
in even though
to explain his position I still find it
hard to believe and the reason is
even if it's
He blatantly
in a premeditated way went and was
status of this car. There's no that's
going to counter that
must be the case.
The case is probably talking about where
he was a where it was. So he's bringing
a and he had the case however where he
thought he was bringing aas and in his
mind he was doing it the right way.
there as far to say that being that it
was only and it's
going to be okay. But if that's the
case,
it's over here in the case of the
is not a problem but everywhere else
would narrowly is going to be considered
and if that's the case said rabbit this
is a big cash on you you old
I think I have a in the beginning of the
you know why because said his grace that
it's
must be talking about where it was
because if it's I don't think that's but
if it's
so why we even having this conversation
oh must be that
it's not going to be that way but again
came to the defense of his only
the case is talking about where was
and Even Shim holds that
because it was
what was your
how could be a to counteract.
So told you forgot the beginning of the
said
by the way if the gears in our sug
is right we were going with the gear
raba not with the gear ra but either way
said that this is really really based on
the that featured very prominently on
of and that is there is a called
and basically what this states is that
to the extent that you have a that's
where it's nicker that the is just a
silly then the is like that is the of
is talking about where the was done
because if it was done
And as a result, you have no kasha from
here. The bottom line is we're
concluding now the of the
specifically the latter part of the
which dealt with the components which we
saw really is a very important
subya
within the general of so when you think
of inchim you think of obviously the
first and the first several of
these different sug is tucked away in
different places.
There's a lot of this is a very
important one right here
some very ideas related to specifically
this
either way without further ado moving
along a classic
So exactly what this means we'll see in
the but just the so we know every single
day in the md there were that were
brought
and
in addition to that on special days like
shabas
there were muffen that were brought
we've spoken at length in the past that
the lundus of the carbon musf was it was
no on the carbon so The tid was brought
every day and some days in addition to
the tid there was a it was like an
add-on to the carbon tit the mccartis is
a rashian
again I am related raites but the musin
are somewhat musher to each other
because the is the and the musf is
really that to the now the itself was
brought
there was the sh and there was The
shabby. So the mission over here the is
discussing the relationship between one
and the other thet and the musf. And
also by the way the musf was made up of
a cocktail of animals. So what about one
component of the with another component
of the Mishna says here's the rule
nothing
wasn't brought
no worries you can still bring you could
have thought it's like a set either you
bring both or you bring nothing that's
not the case when is the
That's true. If they were in when they
didn't bring the you know they were
amazed they didn't bring the
because of some blatant
then you lose your to be able to bring
the moving along
the is also something that was brought
in the morning and was brought in the
evening. So what would be if the terist
wasn't brought by you could bring
instead of
in the event that the terus wasn't
brought in the morning then when it
comes you don't bring only part of it
but you bring the entire thing now the
next word in the is which seems to hook
this part of the mishna with the
previous part of the mishna right the
shin is like above is but we'll see in
the garam it's really in tomorrow's daf
that this is a mime there's a big over
here so really the Mishna is pivoting
now and it's going to discuss something
else and that is
there's an idea that before one of the
mik we used you had to be the English
word for is to inaugurate so there's an
inauguration and then
it becomes live so the mikdash required
they required some inauguration and the
Mishna is telling us now how these
different ka were inaugurated so So the
mission says
only
that was the small that's the one that's
mentioned in the end of not the one
that's mentioned in that's the one that
was primarily used for the and the way
they were that was with the that's the
grace of with the that's the one that
was in the that was so the only way to
be the
was with the and the only way to
was with
the way to be
with
and the way was
using
and it had to be lit again this will be
primarily the topic of tomorrow stuff
stating that and the raid we're going to
touch on this a little bit
the following question
that doesn't have enough animals
to bring the and the
which comes first. So the
we know was two
was made up of different animals but it
included as well. So the question is
what would be if you don't have enough
for the and the which comes first. So
theor says
really asked this question right what
exactly did it mean?
did he mean it's today and today you
have to bring the you have to bring the
right so it's shabas it's if it's a day
that involves your like every day does
and it also involves the if that's
what's going on here says the toi what's
the mean of course you're going to bring
the before you're going to bring the and
the reason is the
because the is and it's as opposed to
the musf is only makud
So the
thammed was brought every single day
which means that it's going to be more
tad than any other carbon pretty much
that it's going to go headto-head
against. Right? The musf wasn't brought
every day. The musf was brought once a
week plus on. So for sure the carbon is
more than the carbonf. Additionally, the
tid this is a little bit tricky on
shabas also has a special kadusha and
the reason is because the gets
additional kadusha when it's brought on
it's a shabas when it's
on it's so themed on a day that you're
bringing the musf is because the tid is
always it's also because if you're
bringing a musf by definition this is a
holy day and if that's the case it has
an extra kadusha.
is mishesh because it's being brought on
that holy day but it's not and if that's
the case the ish
the musf is only mishesh mak is going to
beat out mudes every day of the week pun
intended right so that's how it's going
to play itself out now truth is for
brevity the gar could have just said
that
the reason the comes before the mus is
because the is and the mus is not tad
the fact that it's makudes is really
neither here nor there Because the musf
is also makesh. The is just about
burning. You're going to tell me this is
makesh. So I want you to know this is
also makesh. And by the way you can hear
that the mus is maybe more makish than
the because the musf is being brought
because of the yakadesh. The tid is
brought every day. It's a madesh that
makes the more kadesh. Right. Teres
is as opposed to the mus is only as a
result for sure the is going to come
first. And by the way, just to state the
obvious, just because something is more
that means it comes first. Of course,
everybody knows this is so again it
can't be the question that he asked
and it's today
because this is a classic
right it has to be
the case must have been where the Shil
is today it's let's say Shabas and on
Shabas We have to bring the carb. They
brought the tomt already. Now it's time
to bring the mus. But if I'm going to
use the right now for the mus tomorrow,
Sunday morning, I'm not going to have
the I need in order to bring the carbon
to and this was the shil says the maybe
the ask and what was the
sh was to does the come first.
So therefore, I'm going to punt until
tomorrow because tomorrow's has a over
based on
or maybe no the is because the is on and
tomorrow Sunday so tomorrow's doesn't
have that same level of either way says
this was
told I have arrived from our mission
because the mission said
what was the case is the case to
is the case talking about where the
person has all the animals that he needs
right in our Mishna when we talk about
vice versa it's talking about where
there's uh
enough and enough animals to go around
what's the shil then what's the Mishna
and the discussion over here is which
comes first and when the Mishna says
It means the order.
It means the order. But the says that's
not true. If that is what the Mishna is
talking about, that's an incorrect
statement.
And again, this is 101.
How do you know that there was no carbon
that was be brought in the morning
before the
is always the first animal
right sometimes says Ella and sometimes
says
it's the last that the case of the
Mishna is talking about
case it's talking about you don't have
enough animals to go around right that
must be what the Mishna is saying and
what does the Mishna say to me the
Now let's take this in if it's talking
about today's and
why is that
it should be the should come before the
because the ish as opposed to the which
is only
which means the is where the mus is not
and
right should come first it has to be
talking about at the cases the where the
had enough for either the mafen or the
but it's today's versus tomorrow's
thus it's not a
what is it it's where one is more and
the other one is more as a result
what does the say
so you see you can do whatever you
Either way
is the in a case where it's a sh of
today's versus tomorrow's today's
which one is going to have a
says
the case is talking about where you have
animals to be able to bring the
or the musf And essentially what the
Mishna is saying is that one is not of
the other and the other is not of the
one the case is probably talking about
where I could bring today's Muslim for
tomorrow's and if is you could do
whatever you want
but told I disagree maybe the is talking
about where you have all the animals
that you need and when we say
we're talking about the order right
that's what's going on we're talking
about the s that the It doesn't matter.
What was the isn't there?
Nothing's allowed to come before the the
answer is that that is true. But at the
same time that's only that's only that's
not and being that that's not. So it's
for that reason it could be the Mishna
says that
in other words the Mishna is not talking
about where you're short on animals. You
really have all the animals that you
need. It's a question of and the saying
is not
what's the big on this. What happened to
the grace of the answer is that's and we
know you should always bring the first
but the is talking and the says you want
to know
either way where are we back to
wanted to know what would be if it's
shabas oh by the way it could be just
picking shabas it's shabas right now
they brought the carbon and now it's the
shila bring in the mus and the question
is if we bring the musf we're not going
to be able to bring the tomorrow that's
the question over here so the shila is
what has kadima do we bring today's musf
or do we instead wait and bring
tomorrow's
each one has a mile the bringing today's
mus is because the carbon mus is more
than the carbon there's a mile bringing
the carbon tot because it's
hence the question is what has an adifos
do we go baser or what's more kadesh or
do we go bust or what's more now the
truth is before we go v this shah that
is asking is really
shah a gur's shil which features very
prominently in but it comes up elsewhere
as well and that is we know
we know
essentially the sh over here is that I
have on the one hand I have on the other
hand and the question is
right. So really if you're going to
learn this properly you have to make a
beline to that.
Sounds very much like that is really
what's question is. Today's musf is
tomorrow's is each one usually has a
mudish usually comes first usually comes
first where one is the other one is
that's the famous of the in different
places and it sounds like that was
question that he asked they're right
here either way I'll bring you
there
that there always had to be six, six
sheep that had beaker done in the
lishkatam. So the lkam was one of the
chambers in the base of mikdash and
that's where they used to keep the right
that giveaway was called the liskas. So
the tom used to be kept. What were the
tom used for? For the carbon and for the
musafen as well, right were a very
important commodity in the bd and there
was a special in fact for these. What
does it mean that they had to be because
that the carbon required? We're going to
see in a minute. The learns are from a
that it required four days of inspection
to make sure that there was no m inside
the carbon. So essentially said they at
all times in there had to be at least
six
you had to have six of these. So you had
to have a reserve of six. Now what's the
reason for this?
So that if you have shabas which is
followed or preceded by two days of
rash. So it's Thursday Friday shabas or
it's shab Sunday Monday you have a
three-day yontiff. you'll have enough
to be able to bring the twoim on each
one of these days. So in the event it's
going to be shabas and now you can't do
gash you can't do business. So you have
to make sure you have a supply
it was true in the mdish as well. So
it's for that reason for a shabas and a
two-day you're going to have to make
sure that you can have six thought. By
the way it's kishmak because today
inflar it's something called a three-day
yontiff. Right? It's coming up this
year. There's an idea of a of a
three-day and the only way you could
have a three-day is Shabasan. But the
bottom line is because of the three-day,
it's for that reason you had to make
sure that
I have a little bit of a problem with
this
six that's going to get you through a
three-day.
Is it talking about where the khanim
really have all theim and all the musen
they have a ton of animals they have
whatever they need and then we're
telling you that you have to make sure
you have six right it doesn't make any
sense to vavas if they have I don't know
if you do the math it's over 20 animals
you're going to need over this three day
with all the musafen and everything so
what do you mean you have to have six
you're telling me you have what you need
this is pretty obvious is talking about
the last slate now we'll see in a minute
why it's not so obvious but at first
glance what seems obvious This is
talking about where you don't have what
you need and
you better make sure that at a bare
minimum you're going to have six. Well,
if that's the case,
you know what you see from here? You see
from here that if you don't have all the
animals you need, what's the bare
minimum amount of animals you need to
get you to the six. Now, what's the
having six? Because you're going to
bring the What about the musafen? Oh, it
sounds like the tid is going to come
before the mi.
The tid should come before the mus. Oh,
it must be because the
is
over the mus. But isn't the musesh? Oh,
it must be.
And this is
question. Now you're going to say one
second. One second. One second. We're
talking about
on all of these days just like the musen
are kadesh theim are also kadesh. So
this is the case that was that the would
come first, right? Because the t on all
three of these days is going to be mish
and the musf is going to be only makesh.
So of course the is going to come first.
This is not a it's not ashma right
was talking about today's versus
tomorrow's where the m is not and the is
but in on these three days it's posit
you're going to use all six of these
animals for the because on all three of
these days the tid is going to be makish
as opposed to the mus is only going to
be makudes. So Rashi Bab's question
Rashi the way he explains it is it's
talking about where it was shabas or
well let's just keep it simple it was
shabas rash or rash shabas is more than
rash
so if that's the case once they bring
the shabas morning that's easy you'd
have bring the because the on shabas is
as opposed to the mus on shabas is only
but when it comes time now to bring the
musf now this mim's
Because do I bring the musf now in
chabas or do I wait instead bring the t
tomorrow? Now you're going to tell me
the mus is kesh and the tomorrow is yeah
but the mus the tomorrow is not as the
today and the reason is because shabas
is more even the way it is
as opposed to it's only
right this is not etc etc but here's the
bottom line that The musf on shabas day
one is moreish than the on day two. And
if it sounds like we're not paying
attention to the mus we're saying just
have the six animals for the three
what emerges that is from I know it from
the
from the explains and if that's the case
says the
says I'll tell you the it's talking
about where there were enough animals to
go around it's not the over
is not talking about that if you're
running low on animals, make sure you
have six to bring the the six and don't
worry about the because it could be the
of would come before the of Okay. So,
what is this?
It's something else.
What we're saying is that when it comes
to this three-day, you better make sure
that you have six that had already four
days prior to
going to the
right of
how do you know that when it comes to
the carbon, you have to do four days.
It says this regarding the carbon.
And it says in par by the carbon that
was born
right they had to do four days of
beaker. We know that
just like they required beaker four days
over here would require four days of
beaker. So was talking about where you
have enough animals to go around. But
all the
was saying was is that make sure you're
going to have six animals that had
beaker only the bag that holds the dim
beaker by the carbon. It's only true by
the it's not true by the m and as a
result six and not more than six not six
animals for the six because if you had
six animals bringing them for the it
could be the would be that was question
it just means six animals
and that's only true for six not true
for the because the brought with the
didn't have this of why not because
learn from
that it says by the from the
for the
you have a lim for the you don't have a
lim for the mus that's why it's only
going to be the it's not going to be
neglash
he said if that's what's going on over
here that you're saying that just make
sure for the three that in reserves
you're going to have six
that are going to be well
you should need seven
should have to have one for the morning
for the morning of Tuesday. Once again,
this three-day yontiff wasashash, I'm
sorry, shabas and then right. So, shabas
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday morning,
you're going to have to go ahead and
bring a carbon totally
you have to prepare before your to make
sure that you have that carbon good to
go because what mat shabas you're going
to start scrambling the stores are
closed when you're finding a a sheep
that had be already dollar. By the way,
we'll see in a minute there were Moist
that used to know that in the B mikdash
you needed be. So they would already
prepare the animals, right? But again,
the pizza shops are open, nothing else,
right? So where you going? There's
nowhere to go ahead and buy a Kevin. So
what exactly are you going to end up
with? So if this is addressing the
three, make sure you can have animals
that had be well you should eat seven,
not six. But say according to you, you
should eat eight. also
right for a three-day
was the last carbon that was brought.
So what about that says come on that's
not aasha
we mean after you already address make
sure you have another six okay
that's not a kasha we deflected that
very easily but the bottom line is don't
you need one for the next morning says
you have to say it's
t is saying something else we thought
that what the t meant to say was is that
ink when there was a three-day they had
to make sure they had six the truth is
when there was a three-day they had to
make sure they had Because if you didn't
make sure you had seven, you're going to
be scrambling the next morning and
you're going to have yourself a big
problem. So you actually had to make
sure you had seven in that situation.
We're saying something else. We're
saying
not on a three-day when falls out
Sunday, Monday. We're talking about
always. There always had to be six time
in the
always needed. You know why? Because you
have to have reserves. Why? It makes a
lot of sense. You don't want to be down
to your last because what happens if
something happens to your so you have to
have reserves. It makes perfect sense
right there. You have to have backup.
There has to be some sort of reservoir
of how many that's this.
Now why did we think that it was the
day?
Um because that's what it said.
There's no three. THEY ALWAYS EAT SEVEN,
NOT SIX, SEVEN. It means there's there
can never be less than six, right?
There's always of things. So the
shabas
was a
it was just it was a good way of
remembering six. Rashi says why do you
need this sim? Because maybe you're
going to think it's five. Maybe you're
going to think it's seven. Kazal worked
with Siman Ky. So Kazal are telling you,
you know, you're going to come to a
share and you're going to hear that the
RV said that you have to have six and
you're going to come over, you're going
to say, I can't remember if was it five,
was it four, it was 11, it was seven, it
was nine, it was 14. You're going to get
confused. So the the
gave a good way to remember. Oh, three.
It's six. And you know it's six, right?
Because it's only the needs it. It's
three times two. Easy back envelope
arithmetic. And like this, you're going
to remember what your number is. But the
bottom line is is the of
two days is not for the three day. For
the three day, you really need seven.
This is a
beer minimum. You always have to have
three. The bottom line is that is I'll
even prove to you right. Sometimes we
say things like this when it's a little
bit sometimes it's actually very this
one's
right. If you look carefully at the
funny word, it should say
the ter is you always have to have it.
This is not only for that. What then
does mean
right? This is a what does have to do
with? It means
it means enough that would be okay for
three days. It would be okay for a
shabas and two days. But the bottom line
is has nothing to do with preparing for
two days. Then you would actually need a
seven. There's a special this something
that you always need. The bottom line is
really left unresolved which is by the
way the way the Gar leaves the question
of
right. This is an existential question
that comes up and seems to always end up
in the category of
either way. Exhale. And just to speak
out two light kachumahas
the first is over the years we've
mentioned many times that there's a
pelarashi it's in the conversation of
the most difficult rashi of all time
that pelic
not that we rank these things.
So the Gmor there is discussing the
and at the very very end of the Gmorra
says that the
number is
the 13 of the 13 is the 24
but
says
you would have thought are included in
the
says
it's talking about a
carbon
and he was bringing a carbon and he had
in mind that he's bringing a carbon
is that this carbon is
And you have to go ahead and you have to
bring another card. So the great
you want to know what it means to be it
means to
really everyone asks this that this
rashi is can't say this rashy with a
straight face. How could piggle
is not piggle? It's a
what's
bothering
that was the word
again
to answer this
but something that we never spoke out on
this topic but jumps off today's that I
saw Ranchburg and other Mim on the side
of Babakaf
and speak out is that as much as this
rash at first glance seems to be a but
at the same time I think we know where
got his from
the had a discussion
and was of the opinion
said I ask the cash on my own from the
it says
and if they did they're going to be but
if they did they're going to be stating
that we learned in that even where the
is not as butle the piggle's going to be
said what's the case let's read the lion
of the is the case where he knew he was
bringing
but he had a mind to
Well, if he knows it's
not a he's amazed
and it was
that was the
rabbi is being
oft
And how is the of
it's talking about in his where he's
bringing
now
that's not
but what's
it means he's bringing a that has a den
to eat for a day and a night and he has
a mind to treat it like it's a where
he's going to eat it for two days and a
Right? Meaning it's not that he's having
in mind.
I'm bringing aas and I'm having a mind.
I'm bringing I'm bringing and I'm having
a mind that I'm going to treat it with
the
instead of having a mind that I'm going
to eat which is the way you're supposed
to eat a he has in mind which is the way
that you're supposed to go ahead and
eat. That's what it means. BUT WHAT'S
THE BOTTOM line said
when they were being
that talks ABOUT
what's the case where it was
no it means is not that he had
what it means that he's going to treat
the as if it's a rashi over here
is just quoting
it's what rash means he's quoting
What does it mean?
Mafagle, you have to start explaining to
your eighth graders what exactly means.
You do, by the way. And by the way, if
the eighth grader learns he's good
enough, he's going to go to yeshiva and
10 years later and he's going to think
pigma. You can't blame him cuz he
learned rash.
But the bottom line is
that oh it means
what is the case of the
this is the hardest rash in the world to
understand right theness of of this rash
is a very very sh right the of the
Yeshua is he says I don't know what was
bothering rashy I can't for the life of
mine understand
the regular traditional of exactly how
this works. But the bottom line is
that it's Rashi was just quoting he was
quoting the over here
that also explained piggle as
and it doesn't mean where I'm bringing
I'm thinking I'm bringing it means I'm
going to treat the with the why would
Rashi here have chosen to quote the
it's because the is discussing the same
exact that Rash is discussing That's
just a kage. But the bottom line is it's
discussing the case of
bottom line is this is just a verbatim
quote from today's when you're not
learning you can't appreciate this. But
today was the day to speak this out. And
the MS is the Ranchburg
is the
to this very very
that's the first the second is
the very end of the Mishna that we
learned.
So the Mishna pivoted the Mishna began
etc etc and then the Mishna said which
involves which is the beginning of
tomorrow's
the
how
the had to be the mdash. In other words,
you couldn't just go ahead and start
using the mdash. It required a right
and then
there's some process that required
the ka to go through before the ka were
able to be used. And the Mishna goes and
delineates how exactly they were each
one of the mikdash. Truth is this is
very much the topic of tomorrow's d but
we're preempting a little bit of a this
bridges today's daf and tomorrow's daf.
You know over the years we mentioned
many times that Pesak Frank in his
wrote a chuva related to the kalisher
movement in the 19th century about
bringing a carbon
and his
aim
that he brought to the tish was this
right here says I don't understand how
in the world it's going to be possible
to bring a carbon pes because in order
to bring a carbon pes you going have to
have a misbeh
which had to be paid for by the so
basically you're suggesting that we're
going to have it's going to be
impossible to have and it's for that
reason
Frank
said that it's going going to be
impossible to go ahead and bring the
carbon pes really the background to this
is that even knew that it was only the
carbon pes you he were able to bring but
bring the carbon pes right because
everything had issues but the garb he
thought you could bring but
that you can't bring only the carbon pes
because you have to first be
is something that has to be done
and as a result he held the whole
movement was was dead on arrival again
this is the we spoke spoken about
several times over the years. Not for
now. But I just want to mention one and
that is that
the inal
discusses
and the says and that is you would have
thought for sure counts as an so we know
in fact the say
there's four that if would do them he'd
What are they?
And the Gmorra goes through every other
in the world and tries to figure out why
would do them. He wouldn't be. And then
the Gar comes to and the says
it's not even an because it's not an
it's that would do he wouldn't be. Now
the truth is
where he means that is allowed to go
ahead and do or it means
if he did it he won't be like the says
holds he's allowed to do the says you're
not tell you're taking way too much out
of this all the said was in response to
why
doing
but to go and to say that is
this has on it something we spoke about
in the past
if you take a look on the side of the
says to him it's a how could it be that
the says
but that
there's no
when it comes to the this cash is the
most obvious cash in the world,
right?
Who's supposed to do the
is the one that's supposed to be the
I don't understand. How's it possible?
How is it possible that the
and
that is even allowed to like there's no
for to do it? Well, if that's the case,
it's a it's a it's a mole. How could
anyone hold that there's no at the very
least it should even be but for sure
for
to be what happened to the parish of
in a classic right in the beginning of
parish
he says
says
I would say that when the says
You know what that was referring to?
That was not a
that every single time the was going to
be lit that it would have to be lit by a
that
I think is talking about that's tucked
away in a
talks about how they were the different
that the way the of the took place, it
happened.
It happened with
this par of
that's talking about the para of being
that required. It's the
afterwards.
is talking about how they were and that
was something that had to be done
that I think that's the in the medish
that everybody knows that Rashi quotes
in the beginning of parishes
says that why did right here in
immediately following
so the major says
was very sad
because the
was
because he wasn't involved in the not
him
told him you have nothing to worry about
yours is going to be bigger than theirs
you're going to
The in this is
he wasn't involved in the and tells him
you're going to light the but it's a ple
his issue was that he wasn't involved in
the so you're giving him a you're
telling that he's going to be the right
very very says that what he was
referring to was the nasan that was
going to happen all you know but it's
because ramban's bother with this
obvious question it stares you in the
face he as that he wasn't engaged
engaged in the so what's the p over here
that you're going to be
the p was that you're going to have a
that's going to have to BE DONE AND IT
WON'T be able to be done because
and if that's the case just like the
could be done
can also be done
he told him you feel bad that you missed
out on the I'm going to give you
that only is allowed to be done
that says
it's
that was the
why because he missed that on the what
was the you're going to be involved in
the car
really happened it's bizar But it's the
that's what this was that's appeals
that's
I think you can say in something that if
you think about is a little bit
something we've heard a thousand times
is asking a very and that is what is the
conclusion of this parish in the
beginning of
right this was the famous hespar right
we all know the
How could the be made?
It's being
stated in real time right now.
What's the mitzvah? I don't know. Sounds
like a harin is going to have a den to
always light the so's going to always
have to light the so for the next 39
years in the midbar's going to be
lighting in the stating that right this
second
you go ahead and you tell that what you
tell that you should do it lights
if the was to light them always then
where's the because right now he did it.
Okay. 39 years from now, we'll revisit
this and we'll figure out was
how could the be made right now.
It must be it must be that really the
was not that was always going to be the
one that was going to light the but was
that he was going to be
he was the one that went and he lit the
for the first time he was the Fore
this has to be the answer to
he said that even though
that it's even
but there was a that had to be
And that was
it was the it's this tucked away here in
the at the very end
I'd rather saw a nice there's a it's
called
incidentally if you're
and who isn't and you're learning now
it's to track down the but either way
right here
so the on thiser so these pieces from
then he wrote a whole safer on the
bottom
every that I went through but either way
so there's a little it's called
and in the
he comes out that
the first time that the was liter that
had to be done so he said that didn't of
that first is that the gh because that
is meaning in as much as
but that's only
after the first
has to be done so it's
the ter is the told this is going to be
done and if it's going to be done this
is going to be a but just because
there's a doesn't mean that there has to
be a what's the kim example
But it's not
right is always the example that has to
be done but at the same time it's not
necessarily declares this
that the first
by the first if you want to look this
was
together that it had a
or wasn't but it required
well number one does have to
If it's an obviously he has to wear the
big duna otherwise if it's not
he wouldn't need the big maybe would be
with
because really the said that should be
when he's what was the
but for that the first is so maybe you
would even say that I mean said
it would be a very if that was the case
but Nice in terms of understanding the
lumbness of this. The bottom line is
this
is that there were two there was one of
the and then there was the that initial
the truth is this is really in
I know but this is really in because
really the whole end of the it talks
about different that were done that seem
to be part and parcel of the and this
from a we're going to get to this where
the that those that are being discussed,
it's not
but the gather of those are it's and
that's the safe of this Mishna over
here.
Either way, we're going to stop