Menachos 28

Today's is and we are at the Mishna about 10 lines from the top of so the onion discussed different aspects of the are from there the mission digressed and discussed other things within the world of etc. etc. From there, the Mishna is now going to digress and discuss things that are nonach related that are the first is in the sense that it was one of the caim of the Bikto. It's not in the sense that we're not going to be talking about either way. in the first half of discusses the Mishna the seven of the meaning you couldn't have a manra that had only six or five all seven were shiv the seven that were on top of these shivim were also so if you had shiva but six nero it's also going to be a problem So we know there are two paras and a muzza they're both of each other meaning there's no when it comes to muza you can't say I have only one par so let me at least have a muzza with no the two paras together make up the one that is the muza not just that says the even if you're missing one word in one of the parishes it's even one word in one of of the would make the film possible. Because the four together make up one mitzvah but is obviously as you can imagine there is so much to talk about as it relates to the second half of the Mishna and that will be the topic of the Dash for the next two weeks and change but as it relates to today's d and the first half of Shabas's it's the first part of the Mishna first part of the Mishna said two is regarding the first was the second was so we're all somewhat familiar with the I don't think it's something that we have to go through together it's mentioned in par it's mentioned again in you have it in par tucked away you have it in par's so there's a lot of references to the manra throughout the every little child can on some level visualize the manra of course the manra that was used in The basikt did not look like the bino that we use on kaneka. The first difference is it wasn't shiva shivan in the mikto our that we use on kan has not shiv but regardless we're discussing of course the was in the mikt that had to be mix that had the will be the topic of the what's the how do we know that says the reason is because it says in theory is one of the magic words, right? There's some words that we've seen in this mean one of those words is in this case it's the word it's means that what's mentioned in the par. So there were two very important demon that were necessary to make a number one. It had to come from one block of gold. Number two, it had to be gold. So you couldn't take a of make it up of scraps of metal and fragments and and put them together. It had to be it had to be what the T refers to as a mix. It had to be solid. It had to come from one piece. The second is that it had to be gold as opposed to silver or other what happens with the if the was made out of gold but it wasn't mix it wasn't one solid piece of gold but rather it was made of scraps it was pieced together it's going to be possible what if it was made of different types of metals it's going to be so the bes said two as it relates to the number one it was number two it was stating that says the price of the is going to be different for the of and the of is so if this wasn't made of one solid piece it wasn't mixture was made of scraps it's going to be the second that's only because if it was made of mat it's going to be incidentally that's if it was made of matas it didn't have to be so this of is only if it's being made out of gold. Meaning if the man is going to be made out of gold, then it has to be solid. But it doesn't have to be made out of gold. It could be made out of mat. And if it's made out of mat, it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be one solid piece. But either way, the garra asks why is possible? Meaning the says and we're telling that if it's not, it's going to be possible. The answer is like we said that was the first line of the garra. It says the word means that it's so just like the so as well. But the says if that's the case then the should be that it should have to be made out of gold as well. It shouldn't be only meaning just like and just like shouldn't be as well says you're right but it says the word in the context of making the and from the word we learn as much as it says there's also a tells me other makas are okay maybe the word is not being mar different types of metals maybe it's So maybe it's from that's only is going to be but the he can't say that because when the uses the word it says it right next to you see is for sure going back on but the says when the terrorist says the word it also says it on. So just like said relative to is also said relative to. So again to be and tell me that is but is only maybe say that is and is only says the it says twice. You're right. There's a special guiloy in the para of the that tells me that it says the word twice. That's how I know that it has to be it says the word twice as well. The Gmorra says if the way you're going to reconcile the is going to be that scraps is meaning it has to be then I can make all the times the terrorist says the word and all the times the word use the word work. But if you're going to tell me just the opposite that the only it's the so the background in order to understand the gar is that the garra just said that it says the word z twice and it says the word ma twice. The truth is that if you look in the that talk about the go through all the piracies of the doesn't say the word z twice it says it five times and the doesn't use the word mika twice it uses it four times. So really if we're going to sit down and reconcile these we're going to have to have accountability now for five references to the word and four references to the word. And what the Gmorrah is essentially saying without going through the because the Gmorra is going to give us part of the and not all the which is not something you often see. It's very interesting. Usually either the garra will leave you hanging and not go into it right now or the garra is going to take it to the finish line. Here the garra is going to give us a so to speak. So the garra is going to work through part of the and leave the rest of it up to our imagination and force us to be in the to really be able will do what we do incidentally. But in terms of what the Gamarra is going to do, that's sort of the Gamarra is going to leave it. But what the Gomorrah says is is that there's really two ways you can learn. You can say that Mika teaches me that Mika is or you can tell me that teaches me that Z is. And the Gmorra says in the of the five times the uses the word and the four times that the uses the word if I can make everything work. If I can't make everything work and that's what the said let's see it again inside which means that mix is so I accounted for two mixtures merely by telling me that it's the first mix is to tell me the second mix is to tell me it's but is not to the contrary it's learned out from that you could be the and make Then I can make all the others and all the other mixtures work. But if you're going to tell me just the opposite that I'm only using one mixture for the because mix is not from so only one mix is being used for the mix but to the contrary but the other are going to be possible because I'm using two to tell me that is then I have no way of making everything else worse then Joshua, what's this Joshua we're talking about? And again, the Gar is going to tell us part of the answer. The time is a measurement to wait. So, how much did have to weigh? It had to wait. We learned from the fact that the says we learn from there that if the was made out of gold then it had to be but if it wasn't being made out of gold it was being made out of then it didn't have to be a so the reason the says the word in this context it's to tell me that the measurement of is in the but if the is not being made out of there's noel another this that had to have and the and the two was only if the was being made out of but if the wasn't being made out of you didn't have those that's learned out from another mention of the words of freight the imam say that maybe if the was made out of gold only then does it need if it wasn't made out of it doesn't need the say Ara that doesn't have is not a it's a candle. It's not the point is there's no way you can have a without at all another either way. So the just brought three bryas or maybe it's one long bryer but three is that I learned out from three mentions of the words of in the one teaches me that the sheer is only if it's a other one teaches me that the is only if it's and the third teaches me that of like we spoke at earlier is only if it's a of so we just accounted for three of the now we said the terra mentions the word z five times a fourth zah We know that's you need that the one is not that's to tell me that the is supposed to be made out of. So we have four accounted for right one is not a one is simply to tell me that we just mentioned three. There's a fifth that doesn't mention over here we're going to see what that fifth Z was coming to teach me. It's actually coming to be used for a cl or for as we'll see already. We'll have some fun with that B. So that's as it relates to the five Zs. So I have five mentions of Z. I know what to do with the but it's all predicated on there not being a that is my because I'm not using two to teach me a what about how do what do I use with ma we said there's four mentions of the word so one is to teach me the second is to tell me that is the garra is going to mention what we do with the third mixure the is not going to mention that's the what we use with the fourth mixture what's the third mixture mixture the learned the also was supposed to be mix and they were supposed to be made out of silver. So in contrast to the which was mixtures of the were made out of if they were made out of scraps they're going to be if they were made out of different types of metals they're going to be possible. So this is the diametric opposite of the mana. The mana had to be and zah. These trumpets had to be made out of and when it comes to the manraes ma was ma z wasn't ma when it came to the was not it could be made out of scraps but was it was made out of sham it's going to be possible says the word possible when it comes to pyrus uses the says the you know what the answer is it says so now we have another of why the mention the word we have one that's being used to teach me not but rather she the has to be but as it relates to the don't have to be so we accounted for four so far of the zahavs, three of the mikes. The bottom line is there's really five mentions of zah, four mentions of mikas. The garra says I can make it all work if two mix are coming to teach me that is and only one is coming to teach me and in the sense that is not but if I would reverse the order then I would be lost. I would be confused. Everything we just said wouldn't work. Thus bottom line there's two important as it relates to the first regarding is that had to be the second regarding is that it had to be had to be gold ma was gold was not stating that if it was made out of gold mix not either because it was made out of gold that we saw the price number one didn't have to be number two you didn't need the and the and the number three it didn't have to so there were certain regarding a that wasn't god But if it was made out of gold, it's over there that is mentioned because we said that one of the that the Tyra mentions in to the teach but rather that we use in the Biken why they were used. But the that were used in the Mishkan and and the Bik was the purpose of the what was what what were they made out of? They had to be Mika. They had to be made out of silver. stating that in contrast to the where was by the was because it says he only the not. So the digresses for a moment were able to be used obviously but also future generations as well. However were very special they were. So the were not able to be used in future generations. So the were able to be used in future generations but the not says the when it says that the should also be and we know that was used in future was used during bas was no but it was used during bias as a matter of fact in par when the talks about the so the says and when it comes to the it says and already makes the why does the emphasizes We know who may be the we know exactly who did it. when it comes to the when it comes to the when it comes to the says that this is an that there was only going to be one and the one was the made there was never another and when they didn't have was anymore they didn't have anymore there was no it's a big problem the why didn't they make an ask to explain how is it possible that the in the beginning of he didn't go ahead and and build an arc but they didn't that's a fact so the only in the ever had was so were used there's no question that the were used stating that was not so if it's because it says it says as well and we know that didn't use it's the only that ever used says what do you have to say what does the word mean in the context It means that they know how to pay for it or that's supposed to be learned out from the word is telling you would come more from you whatever but either way. So let's say the same thing by so how do you know by where any more than by the again what's the doesn't just say the word once it says the word twice And because it says the word twice, that's how we know that's how we know that the ofenu were only allowed to be used by they were not allowed to be used by future generations. So just to pause for a moment, a brief pause. So what were the used for? There were in the mik you were allowed to use you weren't allowed to. What was the purpose of these? So the init it's init says the he it's there's a mitzvah to blow with the mtobad when the carbon of the were brought. So every there was special carbon that were brought carbon etc. So when those carbon were brought, there was a mitzvah for to be blowing says the he continues. So to us there was another application there was another time that the were used and that is when there was an aid would go out and they bring the and there was a shiny that would give and they would fast Monday and Thursday and Monday then they'd close the stores they'd open the stores right all the and the gar in the beginning of one of the things they would do is they would take out the and they would blow that to was learned upon the says that there were two usages of the number one it was part of the of the of the carbon that were brought on yontiff number two it was also used in an asara so really from s to shining sea it was used on yontiff those are the happiest times and then it was used in an asara those are the saddest times it's interesting that doesn't mention this in s mitzvah but there was another time in That's we used says the of course but it's the next line in the he would use one. So when they would blow scheer in the B mikdash on Russ so there wasn't just one Baltic there were a few baltas so it was a whole capella you would have one yet in the middle he would be blowing and then there were two levian on his two sides with the would go very long the would be why is the because that's the of It's why was it? What was the purpose of the says it's a everyone knows this? What's why we pull? It's because once upon a time you would pull for a king. So when the king comes, we're in the presence of the king. But the point is on rash what's the what's rashan? Rashana is you're in the presence of the king. So if you're in the presence of the queen, you greet the king the way you're supposed to. I mean, every time we d we're supposed to think that, but is that idea that's super duper manifest? So you don't just, you know, make sure you conduct yourself in a certain way. Now you're literally in front of the king on a on a whole another level. So you blow. That's what they used to do. But I'll go upon him. But the way what they were doing is with the angels blow. They blew as well. That's why they used to do that for in the mikdash. I guess was maybe more manifest that's more of a little bit of the regardless. So you had the what was the purpose of the raz says the purpose was number one it was used during the sh that was sang when they brought the number two it was used in as part of the procedure the ra doesn't mention this in say mitzvah but right in the beginning of the says it was also used in the mik when they used to blow it was either way bade Rava was talking and learning to and as we'll see from here till the bottom of the is going to be an exchange between the two. Soap who was son tells Rabra had to bees solid had to be gold if it was made out of it's like the shelster. These are different types of metals says would be possible says it's going to be what about if it wasn't was made out of wooden was made out of a bone over there everybody agrees it's going to be possible so tells he says number one there's everybody else all you have to do is be you know it was ma had to be solid and bees that's the word for ma in Aramaic Okay. And also to be it had to be made out of gold. What if it wasn't Misha? It's a it's a problem. If it wasn't made out of gold, it's going to be stating that you couldn't just make it out of anything. What could you make it out of? So he said it's and according to if you made it out of silver, it's going to be but if it was different types of metals, it's going to be possible. According to it could even be made out of different types of metals. But if you made it out of something that's not metal such as eight told what do you believe is the beer in the between which essentially is whether you can use different types of mat or you cannot use different types of mat. According to rebi only is kosher in addition to gold according to has the ga you can use different types of metals as well told him back I'm going to tell you they both hold that even though the says but there's a and we know allows you to be and this is what to be what's the that's gold is a certain type of metal thus all metals on and held that gold is a metal but it's a very precious metal. Thus only a precious metal will be okay such as silver but that's not going to be okay. No, no, no. Your price is a mistake. I'm going to give you the right version of the price. What's the right version of the price? So whereas in the first even was only metals he wasn't wood said I have audi meaning according to who's who says you can't only use silver in addition to gold for the minority. You could use different types of metals. The beer he said was is he held and where everything that's which is all metals not only precious metals held that according to even wood is okay. That was his version of what to help. If that's the case, it can't be because only and wood are too different to say that wood because it's of thus there must be a different explanation there is a different explanation doesn't hold. Again, what's the difference between a specific. So, the second is so it's not only but it's now anything that's gay. If you hold so it's the same words, we just use a different term. So the is not called a it's called a boy. The prat is not called a it's called is. So the mandib in every you have what the mand that holds clu holds you have when you have a clat. So if that's the case when you have au you already have or so what's the second marba? What's the second clarb? It's marba more. It's everything except for one thing. To me, it's always my one. Either way, says what's one thing but is going to be if it's cloud you could only be which at the most is but is going to be on the outside looking if it's then you could be everything eight is included in everything it's just one thing that the one thing will be is is less similar to than eight is thus if you can one thing that one thing is not going to be that one thing is going to be either way. So tells I have a that discusses where which we know is if it's if it's not made out of gold what could it be made out of so according to my is a big he holds it can be made out of all different types of metals but not wood says cross out your bryer lose it delete it sami literally mechoice it's the wrong bryer my bryce is the right bryer what does my bryer say the he could even make it out of wood. And by the way, it's not. Okay. So, what did Papa tell? What would you say? Your B is right. Maybe my Bryce is right. This is the obvious comeback. So, he told him, "Maybe my BC is right." from says no because I have two more bryes that are like my he says clearly you can make it out of wood another you're not let to make a house that looks like the a person for his own usage you're not let to make a porch that looks like the looks like the if you want to make a that has either five, six or eight like that's okay because that's not the of the like the said it's and by the way you can't make your of even if it's not made out of gold even if it's made out of a different type of metal. Why not? because you were letting him make the B mikd out of different metals as well. So if you're going to make a man out of different metals, it potentially is the of the mikdash. You can't even make your homemade mana with out of wood. Why not out of wood? They told him, "No, it's not true. That that that's the wrong history. They never made it out of wood. It was really made out of silver. It was just it was covered with when they had money they made out of and then eventually made out. It's not true. Whoever told you made out of wood wasn't telling you the truth. It was but the point is you see clearly was the with regards to the of making that mirror that you're not going to make that looks like the even if it's made out of wood. You couldn't make it out of wood. Says you can't make it out of wood. Why? It's the orb and it's the that hold that thera could not be made out of wood. Thus, it's okay to make your homemade mano out of wood cuz it doesn't it's not the mikas. But says that it's not okay to make your homemade mana out of wood. Obviously, it's who holds that the mik was allowed to be made said I have enough. I have two bryes that support me. I have two braces that who's the grace of he's the big m when it comes to what you're allowed to make the out of and he says clearly you're allowed to make it out of wood the first is the second is not but it's clearly implied because we're discussing the is to make your own and says you cannot make it out of wood why the bottom line is said there's three bryes with my ga there's only one bryer with your gear So thus my bryer must be the right bryer exhale either way. So before we conclude a very intense week of daf we'll just end with one that is it's interesting if you look in the of the where the talks about where exactly the was supposed to be positioned. So the toyra mentions that the manra was supposed to be. So we know that the sh was on the toughen side of the the was on the durham side of the and the manra was supposed to be the briskar in safer in pars from his father said that it's for that reason that thera mentions the always before the so if you go through the sed in par's truma thera always mentions first the shulhan and then theraa and really you could argue that the mana should have been mentioned Before the we know that the represented thus the was on the top side of the and there's so much and and and that's associated with the but the represents not just it's on the side because but either way so you would have thought that maybe the should have been before the stating that the always mentions the before And brings from the said because if you look at the always says that the was supposed to be that means the of the wasn't the of the was there's no there's no and for that reason first you had to have a only afterwards you could have a there is no of the is but that's an interesting observation that The always mentions the before the you go through it's consistent. It's always first the sh and then thera despite the fact that you could have argued that the shan represents gashmas and thera represents. It's interesting that the brings from the trumadash that the set of he says you want to know what the reason is he said it's true the represents gashm and the represents by the way I'll tell you something interesting just to digress for one moment the safer so it's I just got a hold of the safer recently but it's and it's so he's talking about the he has 50 pages about the so just one excerpt he brings from the he says that the said the represented he says I'm quoting from the who's quoting the berious the first compares seven words it's negative shos those are the shiv and the sheros that we had if you count the words of it's 11 words it's connected it's connected the 11 is made up of nine words the first it's the first it's 17 words which is 17 it's the that we didn't learn the very next was 18 17 says it wasn't a full and the first compar if you count the words I count it it's 22 but either way so the the room is in the so the represents stating that First says it's not a in fact did the same thing years later when he said first he mentions and then he mentioned is the goes out then he makes and he and then afterwards he mentioned so first and then he says the reason is because it's not possible to learn you have which means has to precede you can't have without having you can't have a without having. So first you have and then afterwards you have first you have the then you have the but says it's a because we know that there was another one of the in the also represented that was the also represented the had the the represented and the represented where mentioned it's mentioned before the so first you have the then you have the then you have the I don't understand what's that we mention the before the because then why is the that also represents why is that mentioned why is that mentioned before the says I'm sorry for the as follows because there's two major inra says there's a maj of which where people sit and learn all day where they reach tremendous major you can ask and 12 and 24 right there's different levels of terra yesterday yes it is that but there's there's different major thera represented the madreas and the kafim and the pro and he goes through to explain where these things were but this is describing a very very high major of learning but there's another idea of which is a very basic idea of and that's something that you sit down and you learn whether it's a black whether it's whatever it is and that's says the it doesn't matter who you are whether you have you don't have it doesn't matter what your situation is how smart you are how intelligent you are every single has an obligation to learn whether he has or he doesn't have there's no inra when it comes to the basic that every single has to learn when it comes to the majus yeah that's already a whole different can't survive without needs. And you know what? If doesn't have it's very very hard to be like to live in a for 12 years. Like we said yesterday, the madus that reached when he was in the but doesn't work for everybody. It works for for it's not something that works for everybody. And on that level for someone that's trying to accomplish that there is an idea of a there is an idea of first and then afterwards but as it relates to the basic of doesn't matter who you are every single has an obligation to learn and the truth every single has to even a married man. And then the Ram famously says some of the biggest. But the Ram says in terms of the basic is not a question that they can only ask the grace is a question you can ask everybody and it doesn't matter if that person is an or if he's a or he's a or if he's or if he's say what do you mean I was true but says that a person supposed to by the morning and at night. But the bottom line is is a question they ask everybody. It says the the represented and the represented but they represent the different of the represented thera that every single is obligated to do thera the pure minimum the that everyone has that is not in anything that's the first thing because that comes even before that's to learn represented the mus that's already something that not everyone to that's something That's something where you need first and then after that's something that requires first maybe that's why the is right when it comes to the the it says maybe the which is related to everybody every single was represented in the that the represented that's for that's the that's ready for not everybody to be everybody that wants to be could be but anyone that wants to tap into that can tap into but the reality is it's not something that to everybody and mean that it's not to everybody that is yak.