Menachos 22

Today's is and we are at the first wide line eight lines from the bot of today's being learned as a basal and so we're in the middle of a gar the on the top of brought a mission that says that there was a that said that are allowed to have pleasure. They're allowed to have han from the salt and the wood that was in the B mikdash commented on the Mishna and he said even though the Mishna says that the from the salt and the specifically as it relates to the salt that's only true if they're using it but if they're using it and the Gar had a suffic had to understand exactly what meant. The initial understanding of the that when said that they're allowed to have carbon, what he meant was that if they want to use the salt to put on their carbonos, a carbon required salt, they're allowed to use it. However, if they want to use it for that's not something they would be allowed to use it for. But the GRA said that it can't be because we know from that the Khan were allowed to use the salt for them to process the o the hides that they got from the carpon. And the Gomorrah felt and for that reason the Garra came around and the Garra said there's no way in the world that's comment on the Mishna was that if a wants to use the salt to make his boser taste good. It's not something he'd be allowed to do. Certainly he'd be allowed to do it. Okay. So what did mean when he said must have meant what he must have meant was so what's comment then on the Mishna was that if a wants to use the salt for a caution related be it to put it on a of a carbon that's going on the misbeh or be it to put on the bus that he's eating that's something that's going to be okay if however he wants to use it for that's not going to be okay says no it's not so pos because there were times that the would eat so that when they eat it would be it would be so you would have thought that that is really like a and maybe it should be okay but the bottom line is that what emerges is that when the Mishna said that there was a bzdon that khanimar used the salt in the saying that was true with regards to all carbon related items. Be it the carbon that goes on the or the carbon that was eaten. However, as it relates to and what does mean that's something that's not going to be okay. There was a little bit of a shock of the whether or not actually said that. Maybe meant something else but after further review that is what meant. So the said raashi the names matter. Ravino told Rav Ashi he said I'll prove to you that this must be what meant. Why? Because if you're going to tell me that when said, he meant the carbon that actually went on the why would you need a why would you need a in order for the cayenne to be allowed to use the salt for the of the going on the m you find that even the isim even the nonimm were allowed to use the salt and if the nonayanim were allowed to use the salt then certainly It would make sense that would be allowed to use the salt. must be that the saysum doesn't mean the that went on the because that's because for that you don't need a it must be it's going for the that I don't have any precedent for and as a result it must be that when said didn't just mean the that goes on the but it means the as a matter of fact it doesn't even mean the that goes on the not it doesn't mean the goes on the muzz that goes on the mb is not allowed to use the salt for but for that there's no and the Mishna is discussing something that's a so when the Mishna says it must be that it's referring to the of the carbon that's eaten and if that's the case obviously you'll put salt on the that's eaten why can't you not it's the schooling either way so it sounded like raashi that there's a a very very starker to support the gimmor's second understanding of what meant the in today's is going to pick up again where like mid you almost have to start with the as if you're middle of a sentence where the is going to attempt now to be at first glance it sounds like an extremely compelling to the extent that even the Islow to use the salt to put on his carbon so why would you need a tab than to say that the cayenne should be allowed to if the isrol could certainly the cayen why certainly because the cayenne has more rights in So it' be very hard to think that you would need it tonight. Now is going to let me tell you what said. He said that this raashi again is talking to Raashi. Raashi heard what Ravina said. Hinami Mabra. Okay, sounds pretty good. Ra told him I heard from Raidi that there really is no R. You know why? Because it could be the Mishna is going according to Benki. Who's Ben? Now we went to the Mishna and this is also said Brienb said Yavn. So we know Yavna is the place that the Yidden after the destruction of the second Bd and when the Yidden were in Yavna one of the things they did was is they were in fact there's a homos called Mashian and this was different people that were relaying different mess that they had. had to chronicle all the messiah to make sure but either way so one of the people that said was and this is what he said any that contributes to the he's not a sinner meaning from the fact that he gives the it's okay he's not a what's like a is really from giving so the even if he gives it it's not okay was there and he said I disagree with you it's just the opposite that's not right it's just the opposite and not so it's 180 degrees but the bottom line is that doesn't give them is and the reason is because just like yidden are obligated in okay are also obligated in stating that I said I'm going to tell you where this whole Indian came from where it seems like we're not 100% sure if obligated or not. came from a very bad custom from that weren't saying the right thing because the khanim they used to dish in the following for themselves they would say that it says right so is not allowed to be eaten so they would make the following being that there are three that are and if we're going to contribute to the we're going to have in it and those three types of had to be eaten. So we're going to end up with a problem. So they decided to not go ahead and to not give and that's where this came from that maybe but said that no you have it all wrong. What it really is is that is obligated and as a matter of fact if a doesn't give he's going to be considered now let's just and then we'll see what What was suggested that meaning you're not obligated but if you do you're not argument is I think you should be a and the reason is because if you're not obligated to give this when the coins come into the mikdash you're bringing right the and we know that's not something you're allowed to do there's an in you're not let it bring it's an iss You're not let it bring to the extent that the is not obligated. So it comes out the doesn't have it's not let it be brought into the where the were kept. It's not let it be brought into the so the says the bottom line is is that the way it would work is is he would give it to the and then the would donate it. So like this it got captured a little bit by giving it to like this is not going to be a problem. But the bottom line is this. What does that have to do with our let me tell you said he said that there's no is that they're allowed to use it for maybe they're only allowed to use it to put it on the of the carbon that went on the like the's initial understanding in what was the that's not the because is allowed to do it. So for sure would be allowed to do it. And why would I need it tonight to say otherwise? This is where we pick up with the I would have thought based on maybe it's true that is allowed to use the mel he's allowed to use the salt to put on a carbon that's going to but that's only because he has lishka. What does it mean he has lishka rashi? This is a koashi lishka sounds like he has like a locker somewhere in the bdash. No means that they used to give the skull and they contributed to the to the so maybe therefore the salt which was purchased with that money they have the last didn't have maybe not that's why we needed maybe the that's why we needed the in order to say that even the were allowed to use that in other words there would have been a to say that it could be the scrolls allowed to use the mel as opposed to The coy is not allowed to use the melik. The reason is because the meal is bought with the Israel contributed to the didn't contribute to the now is that true everybody holds the didn't contribute to the no it was and but didn't contribute to the bas you would have thought that maybe they should have that's the in other words we had a said at some and we had two had to understand what that was very cryptic ally said what was that other right it goes without saying that went on the thought that there's a checkmate that what's the real shot it's the second shot why is that because if the first shot is right and the is only the went on the why do I need a for that even who doesn't have the B is allowed to use the meal. So why would I think is different? The answer is the as opposed to the so you could have thought which is purchased with the would be allowed to use but the not this concludes the first part of today's now one of the things that emerged the latter part of yesterday's d was a whole discussion of the melik who paid for it right additionally the who paid for the wood so you show up to the mikd with a carb you're going to need Right involves wood. You have to bring the wood. Do you not have to bring the wood? So if you remember the said rather fleetingly that the even if he's bringing an individual carbon, he never had to contribute the wood. The wood was something that was brought by says the Tana must have had a source. He must have had a curse somewhere because it was very obvious to him. It was never even up for discussion that the wood was contributed by the how did he know that says it's based on a that's expressed in a we learned in a you would have thought if somebody says maybe together with his say you're going to show up with your sheep together with your sheep you're going to have to show up with wood as well and by the way it makes sense because together with the came right it came. So the you had to bring out of your house. So that's like an ancillary expense that comes along with bringing. So just like you in addition to the animal you had to bring the it would make sense that maybe you should have to bring the as well it says in the by the we learn from here just like the right you don't have to bring the is from the so to the mish was also sour rebel was said now you know that didn't have to bring his own and just like the is obviously so had a different that he learned out from this is just like the iss So when was built so that we used for the had to be things that never used. We learned from there and so to the had to be such and such that a never used. So we have two drawes from the what's the so what would you say if somebody asks you I would say what it mean two I would say according to it has the has to be or could be Michelle according to maybe you have to bring your own according to you have to use newim you don't have to use new right I mean it's obvious they have two different two distinctly different. So gives one of those two says of who learned from the that's true according to that's not true according to and all point out from here that you see that the understood that wasn't being he was being on say there's aim to to that he holds the same thing. But Yehuda, he has a second. He says in addition to that, there's also a that says it has to be that argues with and that's why the said is that you're not allowed to use any old wood to build the says If this POS sounds familiar, it's because we learned this Pik together in the right. So this is a P at the very very end of M where tells David Hamel to go and purchase the G of a man named Aravna who was a Jebisite Arai and I want you to go and build him as Bak. And when Aravna sees David coming with his whole entourage, he's very taken aback. Take it. I want to buy it. No, take it. And he said, "Not just that, but come, I'm going to give you whatever you want. You could take the miran. You could take the cleab. Take everything." Sounds like these things were okay to be used. What's the cash? What do you mean? You can't start taking the farming tools that has been using for many fiscal years. It's not something that's okay. So how could there be here? You see that is not an issue of the who said it wasn't right. We assume these were farming tools that were used already. So he gave him tools that maybe he had to use but ultimately they weren't used. I mean that they weren't used says for that reason this is going to be okay. says just parathetic to this discussion, right? When you're learning Kachum, this counts as agth although there's a lot of ag coming up next week by the way. So the daff is about to get much much much lighter. But either way, my what exactly is the definition of right? He said take the it's some farming tool. That's obvious. But what exactly is it said to me to if that helps? Well, didn't help the said. So, does that help? So, that already the Gammorra understood and even Rashi understood. So Rashi says it's an age. So this was some piece of metal, but it was shaped like an a shaped like a goat, which makes sense. You're in the farm, right? And it was not just a barel goat, but it was a corkus. So Rashi says casa is a neessle. It's like a large beam and there are nails on the bottom of it. What's it used for? Next, we have the gear, but it's the same thing. It's used to thresh and thresh. They would put it on the they would tie it to the a and they would use it to thresh. But the bottom line is this is what it is said. What's the martus? Like how did know this? So said they knew it from the following. This is a that I made you like a what's ag it's sharp it's it has many uh edges sharp right and it goes it threshes the mountain so the bottom line is there's a from this again to this idea moving along incidentally there's a very in the world of raid we're not going to go into this now and that is said there's a that if you build is you have to use and things that were never used before. But if something was used for something else once it was at that point use it. We learned this together not so long ago. So it says he slept on the stones and then afterwards he used that right. Everyone asks that how is allowed to go ahead and build a from those stones was violating this. Now the truth is is this true da for a misb would be included or not when he built his mat. So that was a also wasn't a misbeh a bummer and a misbehaves and he could got to a point where he's and what's one of his you see all the stones were fighting because when put his head down on the stone It wasn't a gather of a it was a gather of a of a m of and as a result of that's not of that's right one of the examples that the says is you find because literally like lying that's a it's a maybe there's no from either way it's a fascinating grade we're going to go vis Dr. Mishna, what would be if twoes got mixed up? So Ruven had a shim had a commitments and the twoes became au or if someone had a we'll call them ruin and it was with so what do those three have in common the ent so is it's going to be cautious even though you have different parts of a carbon that are supposed to go on and they're all their all mixed up. So there would have been a that I don't know maybe you can't put it on the and it doesn't matter if it's or if it's a to go on the he says that it's true that's going to be okay but if you have a with a whole goes on it's going to be possible even though it says actually says it's really they're both going to be possible. So if you take a look at Rashi says that the proportion of versus she was different for the that had a done with it versus the that didn't have a a says The mixture was thick, right? There was a there was a of per each of however the mixture was much thinner and the reason is because the ratio was three of each brings the mus. Here's the bottom line. If you're going to mix as Yehuda these two types of what's going to happen is you're going to have a reb as it relates to the that's supposed to be and you're going to have a sha regarding the other that are supposed to be and it's for that reason you're going to end up at a so says if it's a and a where the ratios of the two parts of this are one and the same so then there's no issue If however you're dealing with a situation where one has a like to isar ratio and the other one has a three lugan to ratio. So now if you're going to mix it up the kit is going to end up with too much oil and the other is going to end up with too little oil and it's going to be puzzle simply because the the proportions and the ratios are off. For that reason it's going to be an issue. Meaning doesn't sound like there's an issue. there's a you know a secondary issue and that is you're going to end up with a or a and for that reason there might be an issue again so what is the according to the anytime you have a between it's always going to be the is neither here nor there according to it depends if it's a it's going to be fine if it's aka because of this other issue that's where you're going to have a problem so the gar now is going to begin and the gar is going to introduce a If you remember when we learn the Indian of wasn't just it was a per right there's a whole par after d short monsteres but it's a whole per but what's very much you get a snippet of which is one of the themes of the first 25 or so of either way the is going to send us down memory lane a little bit. Take us to a tan. Not all tans were created equally. The tan that we began the daff with was in thisanim is inim regardless is going to bring us back to a major regarding not when there's a what would be if you have that was with water. So what's right? How exactly do you go about something like this? So the mission says if the taru looks like blood it's going to be if it doesn't it's going to be so we don't go why remember the because you're not eating it you go when it's a you go you go we look at what it looks like literally what would be if the dam was with now if you're supposed to go and the two things look alike so it's going to be very hard to go bas says you pull a we make believe that the was and we ask ourselves if this was May would you see the well then it's and if not it would have been what if it was which by definition has to be so there too we look at the other as if it's and we ask ourselves if it was you see the D then it's going to be and if you wouldn't see the D then it's not going to be this is what we're getting to that is not what's the Rhuda because of course is the holds says I agree with your I even agree with I sign off to but there's NO it's always going to be considered nothing to worry about you can't be and the reason is now obviously hold is how do you know that said when it comes to the dam being this We have whether again this is one of the more famous but that you want to know the source the to this is and they both developed their opinions from the same one. This is which of course is the beginning of which is and the says that when he's doing the he would take from the and he would take from the that there's more dam that comes from a comes from yet the calls the dam of the s as the dam of the s be clear if the dam of the is mixed together with the power then the should be bled to the power and at that point it should be if the says we know must be that for whatever reason was not bottled question is why hell that the reason is we learn from here it's because they're both the apparent were both things that one of them is both and each other that it's not the both it's the same you want to know we areed out in terms of this it's in the trying to explain why it would be that the damasar was not bottled to Who the hell it's said? I don't think that's the reason. I think the reason is because they're oil and really is bottled. So really it boils down to how do you learn the sha? Now the gumar is going to be maful a little bit in the respectively and then the gumar is going to tell us why we having this conversation right now. So far it just started with says the abundance the reason is not because they're both right maybe it's because in other words says sometimes right it's not that it's and it's not so that it's chain so why does ra hold one way and why does hold the other How do you know? It's because of maybe it's because so says had the given me the example of where the dam is not in a situation where it was but not also something that went under. So I would agree with you. I would think that probably the reason there's no BL over here is because it's an island. But now that the terror told to me in a case of island, you know what it sounds like from the island? It certainly sounds like that the reason it's not bottle is because it's island. Meaning you're telling me that maybe the reason the is not bottle is because it's nothing to do with why you tell to me in the case of Ireland. Why you tell to me? Tell to me. Why you telling to me? It's a funny place to tell it. Oh, it's very mash to me. must be Ireland says I hear you want to tell me that it's not this is a regular because you should have told it to me about wine and wine and you should have said it in the parish of I don't know so you tell me blood and blood in THE PARISH OF IT sounds like this is I must be but it also says it by so maybe the only time there's no is if it's and say which in English means I hear for the say understood the coming to teach how do you know maybe saying good maybe the reason there's no pitier is because it's if the case would have been a case where you have two things that are but it's I have no idea two things that are not the same I would agree with you for sure it's But now that went out of its way to tell me the case of in your mind certainly sounds like that it's related to so it can't be this has nothing to do with because if this has nothing to do with then it shouldn't have been talking about a case of but says the same as earlier maybe you have to have both maybe it has to be and it has to bear again here again at the end of the came from the same pos because of why he tells me in the case of island it's maybe it's also here and first if it's because of island soam me why you talk telling me in the case of and maybe you have to have I hear it's because you told me in the case of but you also told me in the case of maybe that's and I hear but the bottom line is these are the two sheet okay so what does it have to do with our so now we have to learn another but this we learned already we learned in our said argued with the said anytime you have a be a it's always going to be said no that was then already it's going to be possible because the ratio of oil to is much less in the it's one per one than it is regarding the where it was 3 to one. Okay. So what's the issue? At the end of the day, they're going to be by one from the other. And what's going to be the problem? The problem is you're going to end up with too much she in one or too little she in the other. How do you know it's I know it from the counterpart where he learned it from. So if that's the case, At the end of the day, this is all right. Everything here is the same. And being that everything is the same men, right? So if it's no, what's the cash is like this. The is that THE BL the same thing to the extent that there's no B. So even if it becomes a mixture where your she becomes part of me and my she becomes part of you but at the same time at the same time there's a barel that separates the nutrition facts of each one of these ingredients because at the end of the day I'm my original which is a and you're ma which is a bila raa and there's no mixture even though physically they're being mixed every mim bottle or light bottle they're physically mixed but there's a den don't apply. You're not on me and I'm not on you. Well, here too these two should not be on each other and everything should be as is said of the opinion. Anytime you have but there's something else as well. Meaning if you have a not of just two things that are but there are three things two things are and then there's a third thing that's an is the way you go about something like this the way you work it is you get rid of the you make believe it's not there and the is going to have an ability to go ahead and be the other men okay over here you have sheen and But you also have soils and silus. So I say that if you're going to take for example the the so the has it soil and its she and now the she is being with the she of the and you can tell me. So those two shemans are still going to be separate. That's clap the she the she of the has no ability to have any impact on the she of the but the of the does and vice versa the soil of the could go ahead and now play games together with the she of the where the is going to play itself out is because of the other men that's what the concern is the she can't have any ash on the she but the she can have ashba on the silus and could have and as a result we're concerned over here that through the laws of you're going to end up with a between these and it's for that reason you're going to have an issue want to see Rashi inside says what's the thing that we're being that's the so what's going to happen is it's the soil of the that's going to go ahead and that's going to be the bottom line the B is going to play itself out because of the fact you have a based on this of take okay when it's really a very very coming up in the not too distant future but the bottom line is the reason would be concerned about a even though is because over here it's Over here you have sheman and silus versus she and silus and because of the two sides of it it's for that reason you have an issue exhale so as it relates to raid just one going back to par again one of the advantages of being up to date with the para is that it's uh this week's para and it's really something that we mentioned in the post game last night at the end of the first parro but I think it's over now and we'll with a little bit of an extra punch line and that is the first seems to be saying that Isra and all the additional events that took place and it motivated him to take Gish Alzar and Come join the party. Come join the ben Israel. But Rashi says right in the beginning of the parish, what exactly was it that Isra what he heard was and everybody from the beginning of time from the first time a person got up and said Isra Jews have been wondering aloud what's so special? What was so unique about that says you want to know what he heard was so in his very first piece in says everybody knows it's a well-known that parro in the beginning of parishes when he said had three primary advisers bil and he called them in and he said that the Jews are posing a problem. They're multiplying at a very fast pace at some point they're going to become such a powerful force that in the event that there's a war and they decide to join the other side. We may be in big trouble. We have to come up with some sort of solution quote unquote. We have to figure out what exactly we're going to do. So the cabinet gets together and they all voice an opinion. Bum says I think you should kill them. I mean or at least deal with them. Figure out something very very bad to do with them. Said I plead the fifth fifth amendment right. I'm not sure. Isra was barak said I need the bathroom and he wasn't heard from again I'll say that he ended up being killed later in the like said and that was he got rewarded he was that even though technically walks away from that story looking very good But Yroy had a very guilty conscience about how the events shook out because at the end of the day once the Jews were enslaved and things started becoming very very bad for them he started feeling it started tugging him that maybe I should have done more maybe I should have ran away maybe I should have voiced an opinion maybe I should have put up a fight and maybe had I done that I would have been successful I would have been and this was something that bothered Isra throughout the time and says it's and you're talking that if it bothered Israel, Israel probably did chuva. He probably fasted and he probably did Gilgal shale. And who knows what he might have done in order to try to be Messiah in the fact that in his mind, in his mind, he didn't do enough. But then time passed and the Jews were taken out of and they came to the Yams. And what about the Yamsov? The mitzv all drowned in the Yam. When Isra saw the mitzvah drown in a what realized was that when punishes when thinks and operates he operates mid why did the Egyptians die in sea the reason they died at sea is probably because they made that every little baby boy that's born should be thrown into the sea so Mid Rashi speaks out that's why they were punished at sea so he says I've been doing truva all along because I feel that I sin greatly towards the creator of the world. I think my chuva might have not been a perfect chuva because I see that the way the likes things is and maybe my chuva also has to be and you know what would be it's what we know it's SO HE SAYS WHAT I NEED TO DO IS I NEED TO BE so he said how am I going to be WHAT DID I DO WRONG I had an opportunity to give advice that would have saved the Jews and to THE CONTRARY BY ME RUNNING AWAY I hurt them what I'm going to do is I need to wait and I have to find an opportunity where I'm going to be able TO GIVE AN AT THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE Jewish people and he was waiting and he was waiting for that opportunity and then he heard something else he heard and what happened by Muhamm comes out of nowhere they literally leave their hometown they leave their village they leave their wife and children behind they say we're going to go fight against the Jews why I don't even know but there's something pulling us and tugging us and this is something that we want to do and we saw Malik did yesterday learned the mus that says writes and talks about are supposed to learn and that is sometimes you have to learn from the how you're supposed to go about things of kadusha he saw from that didn't wait for the fight to come to them brought the fight on Malik felt in their that they want to FIGHT THE JEWS THEY didn't say WHEN THE JEWS COME TO our gonna go out like did they said no we're gonna BRING IT ON LET'S GO ON THE OFFENSE and let's go fight And said that if that's how it works in gain also and we have to go bring it. So when saw that went out he says I have to do the same thing. I'm sitting around. I'm waiting for an opportunity to be that I have to pick myself up and he went out. That's what said that taught Israel that the chuva that he was doing wasn't enough of a chuva. You have to do and taught him that you don't wait for the fight to come to you. You bring it on. That's the way you're supposed to do it. The is a little but like every the is a muscle. The niml is half of a fella. It's half. How many times have we learned parro and maybe not connected the fact that Isra who's giving to the beginning of parro is the same yoy of who was one of par's adviserss was this very prominent very celebrated adviser somebody needed to be about something he would try to make an appointment with Isra and his next availability was in 2029 he was not an easy guy to get in with but that's what Isra had a kayak and yra used that kayak in his own mind IN A BAD WAY. WASN'T SO BAD. COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. COULD HAVE BEEN BILON and it could have been but at the same time he didn't put up a fight and yroy yroy felt that I have to do chuvo and chuva has to be done chuva samishko and had he do chuva samishko yro waited for the opportunity and then he brought the opportunity on and the chaishko was he used that same kak that he had of giving advice he gave the advice to the benro and as they say the rest is history you know was that he has a para named after him parro it's out of order. But has a par that's named after him. Why? Cuz he gave us a par in the it's still a little what's so he told set it up this way, set it up that way. I mean he gave him good advice. I think the story the of why it's not so much the fact that he gave good advice. It's the story of it's what motivated him to give advice. It's that herish of the that came to do chuva and we wereabista we wereabist on such a high level that he was he was that he has a whole parish bill messed up when he was part of the husky messed up very very badly. Isra to a certain extent also messed up but at the end of the day Isra was to having a parish named after him. Bam at the end of the is going to double down. Bum goes down as one of the worst people of all time. People make mistakes sometimes, but there's a kayak that a person has to go ahead and be Messiah in the mistakes that he makes. Bum double down and because he doubled down, his name goes down in infamy as opposed to Israas. Isra is so significant. It's so part of the conscience of every year. Every little child who's five years old, boy or girl, has learned in the story of Isra and his good advice. There's a tremendous the is that gives a person a talent sometimes and sometimes we use it in a destructive way. He could be misaken by using it in a good way. There's so much beauty in the story of Israel. The chuva of Isra who would have thunk it. This is the first in the beginning of Mosha. And we're going to stop here.