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Today's
and we are 11 lines from the top of
today's being learned.
So we're moving along in the pigle
sugis.
The very first kimar that we're going to
learn right now is another very
foundational
as it relates to the laws of
in the event that a was doing with
obviously and he had in mind to eat a
half a
and then when he did this again
he had mind to eat a half aas of
It says the price of pigle it's
considered piglenitar
because the he had at the time of the
and the he had at the time of this have
the ability to be mitarf the background
to this is the mishna that we saw in the
end of the first paric piggle 101 and
that is in order for a machev pigle to
be considered a machev piggle it would
have to be that the coen was mkashv on a
kazayas whether it was
whether it was
whether it's
whether it's the shar is always a kaz
says the bra so what would it be if the
had he was
however he did the
over two different avoid so he was mash
on a halfas and a halfas pasho is and
the words of the are
because have the ability to combine. So
the says that there were two versions of
understandings that the had in this said
that when the B said
what the B is saying is that it's not
all to avoid that it's
and the reason is because have something
in common that in addition to the fact
that they're both avoidist they're also
both matern whereas
are not matern And as a result they
wouldn't have the ability to be mit. Now
what does it mean that and are m so if
you go through the rashis here in the
rashi says is
in order for it to now be worthy of
going on and there's an idea inad
is
so that if the madesh the matter what is
matter it's matter the dam we know is
matter of the bos. So being that and are
both m maybe that's why them start but
are not m if they're not m they have in
common the fact that they're avoid but
they don't have any additional common
denominator and it's for that reason
they would not be able to be by the way
asks an obvious and that is that just
like the is
the we know that the kabala was also the
dam are you the so why don't we say that
the kabala is also a matter because of
the kadesh
and the world of rape. But the bottom
line is one version of the Bryer was
that when the Bryce says
as opposed to the other
that what the Bryson meant when it said
was
to
which are far removed from each other
because the first of the four and is the
fourth of the four avoid and if even
those two avidas that are very far from
each other have the ability to be
mitarif
Certainly as it relates to
or by the way even and or
certainly any other combination of avoid
would have the ability to bear. But the
bottom line is what does the bry say?
The ba says that in the event that
someone had piggle of kaz but he did it
over the course of two avoidas it could
be mitar. You don't need that the whole
kazay should be in one avoid. You could
do it over two avoidas. The shila the
two armies are that
one holds it has to be and because they
both have in common not only are they
avoid not only are they avoid but
they're also both materi
any two avoidas would be okay but asks
aasha I'll ask you a stero from another
ley because ley to a bry so we know ley
used to fif a lot of braces and one of
ley's braces it said the following arba
avoid a mar pigle the four avoid
What does it mean for the pickle as it
relates to the shaz soy had a price that
said that it doesn't matter if it's
or if it's or any other variation of
permutation of
they don't have the ability to bear and
this is a steer to the first if you
learn the first means only
if you learn that the first means all
here we have
that says that all are not. So we have a
steer between two prices
of eyes and one and avatar
the pickle or is it not to pickle
came to the rescue
I don't think these bryes are steer
in other words there's no way to
reconcile the two bryes so from that
standpoint they certainly are steers
however it's not a problem because
there's a a mur that the tanam already
argued this point specifically rebi and
the rabbon thus I will tell you one
brace is going according to rebi the
other brace is going according to the
rabban so who's this rebi and raon the
gar is going to present the bryo and if
it sounds familiar it's because brought
the bry already on so we saw this ba
featured prominently in yesterday's
so the background of this bryer is
talking about the kayas that were
brought on so one of the unique herbonus
that the terra talks about is the kayer
that came together with that were
brought on the so the were two schlams
answer to a trivia question the only
example of a carbon schlama that's
bought
there were two obviously
and they came together with breads known
as the now the
two
together made up one carbon just like
the together made up one carbon.
Additionally, it was the of the was the
so with that background says the
in the event that one of the
to eat a half his of one of the then he
went ahead and he shacked the other
to eat a half his of the other. So
between the of the two he had in mind
two combining to eat a
said
that this is not going to be a pickle
and it is going to be pickle says what's
the isb who the isb is could you bear
two of during two avoid to make it into
one rebby clearly cauter that you can't
be mitarf the say piggle thus you could
be mitarf the first that says that you
could bear is going according to the
second
that said
it's the pigle that's going according to
said
I don't agree with
regarding to our
I can tell you that although you do have
aasi who holds that if you have two of
but it could be Rebi only said as when
the two of
happened during two meaning when did
Rebby say of it's
when you're trying to combine two where
each happened during that's not
something you'd be able to do
but You would have two of but each of
happened not during a m it happened
during a mi over there is going to hold
that it's notarif and I'll tell you reb
is going to hold it is mitarf sobi and
as far as I'm concerned would hold that
it's in a case like ours you can't tell
to le if that's the case
just explain what Abay is saying a
little bit better and that is we know
there's a mat right it keeps on coming
up the mission by the way as it relates
to we're going to see on tomorrow's it's
the mission on the top of
doesn't mean
all means over here is that at the end
of the day there could be a between
being
when each
happened during a matter versus being of
two where each
happened during matter. Right? In this
case,
there's no problem
because over here you had a by both he
had during the of each one of the issue
was something else. The issue is each
was aias
and the question is could you be mitarif
says even though this is not an inherent
issue of the mat because at the end of
the day you had the by both but your
mitarif that you're trying to create
over here is taking two
that you had during two maybe that's not
something you're able to do as opposed
to
is not a matter is a matter Maybe over
there would be the bottom line is
told I don't think there's a because it
could be when it comes to
where each happened during
it could be over there would be
thus you can't to
so what emerges then right just to hit
the pause button for one second is that
how to understand
who says that two
of
during the two of the kips would not be
able to bear according to it's based on
the fact that holds you can never bear
to
and if it's true by the it would be true
by
and that's where you reconcile the
serious according to it's only true in
that case because each is aim matter. If
however the voice would happen during
matters over there it would be different
and over there rebi would be that the
two
of could be so it's on that note meaning
that idea that emerges very much from
what is saying that
told if she is that
is that it's going to be considered big.
It's only
that you can't bear. Well, if that's the
case,
then it would make sense that the should
have made and said that in the event
that there was a of
and another
is that at the very least the should be
puzzled. What would be if you had a mat
of a meaning if
then it makes sense
should bear now can't make a piggle
piggle right can't be but at the very
least it should be a problem they'll say
if you're going to tell me that holds
it's never
there's no welcome to make what do
making up to
over there it's also okay but if you're
telling me
is it's only
that's not well if that's the case made
now what's the precedent that we would
make where do you find zerus and right
it's almost a rarity so where would you
even come to do such a thing so the says
I'll show you in this where you find
because you find who has a Koola and
pigle but at the same time he made a
raon and raon who have pigle they also
made now we know this and we know this
go
it's the right the beginning of the
paract
in the event that was doing and he had
in mind to be
cars make cars
say it's pickle olive cars right
according to it's a regular pickle
being that you were doing the init and
you were being right the first of the
second par. So whatever the masaur over
there was there to a whole bunch of
different
might be but the bottom line is it's not
a real pigle stating that ple it is ple
why is a ple must be because it's raan
despite the fact there's no real pickle
over there but went ahead and made a zer
so you see a precedent that we make
zeros right you make zeros so how come
here we don't make nami where do you
find that the raban had a cool regarding
pickle yet they came along and they made
you find that they
And this is the
Here we're talking about where
was being
but then when he was
being
of course
and even though
is a matter and matter and you only
during one but is and as a result of you
have an olive
say no there's no unless you're
now hold
but what's their
and it sounds like from theorus
that it's only
but s is going to be sat
to
that
who holds the holds there's never
something called there's never something
called so I understand why according to
rebi in the event
and then
it's going to be kasha we don't even
make because there's nothing to be geru
has to be we don't just say even though
it's mut it's going to be this I'm
afraid if this will be mut we'll make
that mut Also there's nothing to bearer
but if you're going to tell me that rebi
said his in a very specific case in a
very nuanced case where the two of
happened during but if it was kilo
then it would bear then it certainly
makes sense he should make and just like
made his and just like made their I
think that should have made as well.
responded to and he told him I hear it's
a nice but there's a distinction
at the end of the day the cases are very
meaning
I understand why made what was
right what was the case the case was
where someone was doing a and he had in
mind to be the
two different parts of the carbon And as
a result, it's not going to be what
would be if the did the and he had a
mind to be the Mishna said in that case
he's going to be so if you had a mind to
be the it's the it's nothing felt those
things are too similar to each other
came along and he was
makes a lot of sense
they were the reason they said that at
At the very least if you're
not only the reason it's
because there is an example of a that
doesn't have any such as the
doesn't have any and over is a matter.
So this could actually be in another
carbon where you could have a machle. So
in this case even THOUGH IT'S ONLY A
matter I'm going to say it's not also
right now by you being you're doing but
there is a situation where matter when
is that
case they went ahead and they made so
was in his case why because in this
carbon ga there's another you had the
same exact it would be pickle if you
were thinking weren't thinking
in their case by matter because even
though in this carbon there's no way to
be
but this aid in a different carbon right
is this
carbon thinking about something else
to make would be this
in a different carbon but the point is
in both of these cases it makes a lot of
sense to go ahead and make now The garra
is going to continue and the garra is
going to bring two other cases where you
find both of those additional cases I
mentioned of there additional cases of
so again
the case that we just brought the
classic cases where
right each one is only there are two
additional cases in the one is where
there was
the of one of the that's the case of
right
that's a case of additionally where he
was during one of the so of one of the
in those cases
of
where that it's only going to be a
problem so those are additional examples
where the went ahead and the made and we
would have to explain why the made in
those cases as well again all in the
line of abaya's distinction of so the
continues along and the
says as it relates to the why that if
the during one of the of the
reason he did that was because he was
geyser
because you right now had ava during one
of the sheep what would be if you would
have the makova during the other one as
well if you would have it during the
other one as well now it wouldn't
it would be a matter. So because if you
were
it would be a problem that's a reason to
make
as it relates to you doing one of the it
makes sense to make
what would be if you while you doing the
of the other now these are a little bit
different right certainly different than
the rabban's case of
the reason
by is because there's a situation where
the could be a matter such as the reason
that
is because there's a situation where it
could be a k such as the here we're
talking about where the matter is one of
the or the matter is one of the there's
no parallel case that telling that I'm
I'm making but the point over here is
right there's no case where being mocked
in one of the for example is going to be
considered a pickle the gummor says that
the over here is that we're worried that
the will worry that maybe the person
will be and if he's going to be that's
where the issue is going to be. If you
think about it, this is actually more
similar to reasoning of why went ahead
and made his where you
shouldn't be but he made the you could
have been by the right. So it's because
if you had a different in this carbon
goof it would be a problem. Therefore,
I'm suggesting that that would be enough
of a reason to to make. But the bottom
line is is that what is saying is in all
the cases where you find
multiple cases by
it's not considered but made there was
always a very specific reason why the
felt that the right thing to do was to
make in the case of where someone is
doing the mashar
even though that's not but I'm going to
be because what if you for thear
In the case of
let's go through all of them where you
even though right now it's because you
also have to be
all you have is the there would be so
this in a different garb that's why
we're making
and even the
by one of them but I'm making you may
have the same exact mash by another one.
Right? That's similar to instead of
being mash by the you' be mash by the
instead of only being one of the you'd
be mash also by the second instead of
only being by one of the you by the
other one of the but the bottom line is
there's reasons in all those cases why
we made now it's come full circle
wanted that we should make in reb's case
in the case where you had a of a bish
one of the of the and another
one over This says
there is no precedent of a case where
there's a
anywhere that you find would be able to
bear and being that rebi holds that it
shouldn't bear and there's nothing to
bear because there's no way where it
would bear. It's for that reason we're
not going to go ahead and make the if
you want to explain this a little bit
better.
There were two types of
that emerged from the raiser.
One was theim
of actor
what would be if you had the same exact
and a different carbon where it's not a
matter. So the
regular matter but by the it's a matter
by matter but by the it's a it's a
matter. So we're making by you'd have
that same somewhere else where it be a k
there's no parallel case there's no
situation where if you went ahead and
you had a
and where there all of a sudden it would
be a regular bonafide is pickle if
there's no case where here it suddenly
would bear right there is no such
parallel case just common sense and as a
result there's no m to make the other
type that we found was
which was similar to the
in the case of the
and that is where we're making a
you might have had a a different so
instead of thinking you might have
thought instead of thinking only bash
one of the or one of the you might have
thought the other one as well there the
is because we're afraid you're going to
have the same exact that you're having
now there as Over here it doesn't pass
to make because over here what's the iss
of by something else wouldn't bear. So
being that the of the over here is a and
it's
and there's no way to bear it. There's
nothing even to beer. The only thing you
could think you would beer is beer
eyes. But that said, there's no
precedent to make such yet to make of
this exact
as opposed to or this exact
both as opposed to one that you have a
precedent. But to make this maka onto a
different you don't find that and as a
result there's no makum over here to
make
defended his position and said I can
tell you that only said is if it's a
and it's a matter
if that's the case make what's he
pressing for
by the first mish the second per the and
all their cases
just concludes and says the time I'll
prove to you from the
why is because of the and not just
because of the but the of the way that
explained the funny if you look at the
of the
regard
where over there all there was was there
was no
in the event that the coin had
that it's going to be considered
and even
the
meaning that if you had
it's not going to be considered that's a
regular we have if it's however you're
dealing with
all you have is the so over there it's
That's so obvious. Of course, it's not a
matter. Why do you even have to speak it
out?
Is there another matter?
You know what has to be what the wants
to teach me is the time of the
only reason.
Forget about no piggle. The reason it's
possible by matter is because at the end
of the day there is a that's and because
of the
that's why the hold it's possible. What
do you see from here? What you see from
here is very clearly that it's not
anytime there's no pigle. So at the very
least it's going to be possible. There
has to be a sa to go ahead and make and
there is a sa. The SBA is because
there's a time that is a matter and
that's why the Mishna threw it in to
explain that part of the Mishna is
actually a it's a commentary on the
first part of the Mishna on the part of
the Mishna that's not so why did a very
least it's possible the ter
in this carbon would be a matter in
another carbon the bottom line is you
see that there's a when we go ahead and
make it and it's for that reason that
the went ahead head and the
explain their position in the Mishna.
Bottom line, this concludes the first
part of the dath exhale. Next Mishna. So
the topic of the end of the first
parakus and the second paricus
is very much
related to pickle stating that the
mission that we're going to learn right
now is a little bit of a digression.
It's obviously kachum related, not
pickle related. If you want to follow
the paper trail, the previous Mishna
discussed and piggle related to and our
Mishna is going to mention other
and
what would be if one of the breads of
became or if one of the
became
says
that not only the breads that are T have
to be treated as if they're T and they
have to be burnt in the Basa. But even
the breads that are also have to go to
the Basa and the reason is carbon
because the and were all part of a
carbon seabour and there's a rule that
you can't do by a carbon core. So if
part of the carbon is to you have to
treat the entire carbon as if it's
argue they say
it's true the breads that are have to be
treated as if to have to go to however
the breads that are there's no reason
they have to go to the contrary those
breads will be able to be eaten. So we
have
regarding one of the one of the storm of
that became that that became everybody
agrees has to go to. The question is
what about the breads that are taught
according to
the
said
the
is talking about where the
became became before the
once happened if one of the breads
become different everybody would agree
So the whole
that's only if the one that became
but if it became oh after this I don't
care anymore then say obviously because
that's Tommy but the one that's will be
able to be eaten now just to clarify one
point the Mishna was talking about and
the involved the in fact was the as
opposed to the didn't involve it
involved.
you did this with and that's what was so
obviously what he means is as it relates
to the
but as it relates to the
when he says he means proverbally
speaking what he's really referring to
is but the bottom line is
gave a very important comment to our
Mishna and that is the
is where the one that became Tommy
became Tommy if it became
then everybody's going to agree to the
ple what is the
meaning what is the of this is why would
hold
now the truth is if you look at the
seems to give a reason
you can't make a carbon se so part of
the carbon se has a den to gold the
other part of the carbon se would also
have to have him to go the Basa and the
truth is that at the end of this short
the Gmorra is going to come out and say
that you can't suggest the new reason
for
himself seemed to articulate his reason
in the Mishna but for now we're going to
make believe we don't know the Mishna
and the says
explain
butle what is the
between
said but you want to know what is it's
whether or not It sits had the ability
to be on of a carbon that was eaten when
it became
sits has the ability to be
that the had no ability to be what does
this mean? So we know one of the that
underpins is that the tits had ability
to be on. You would think that something
that's to that goes on the misbeha
stating that that sits had the ability
to make it as if that to didn't exist
and to allow that thing yes to be able
to be mirata. The classic example of the
sits being matzah is with regards to
what referred to as something that went
on. So for example the dam the carbon
that became tom that sits had the
ability to be maratza. What about if a
carbon that was eaten became would the
tits have the ability to be there or
would the tits not have the ability to
be says that's exactly the is over here
the raon hold the tits is being that the
titso even though at the time of this at
the time of
you have some of the breads that are but
it tits as that tits makes it as if the
to is not there as a result although
because it's but the one that's tar will
be able to be eaten Whereas
and being that
so I can't look at the as if it's not
there it very much is there and being
that the is there just like the is going
to what's the is going to stare what's
as well what's the beer if you take a
look at and the way
the beer is as follows the halls
so comes at I see right now
of the carbon as being a carbon that's
right and upon him is
and the reason
is is because
the that's is the equivalent thereof as
if it's
now
so
Even who of course we pas like who holds
he can go ahead and he can be the but he
holds
as we saw several times throughout the
beginning of being that
so it comes out right now that you would
not be able to eat the that's because
it's but you also would not be able to
eat the that's and the reason is because
the only reason the argue is because
so they say that this of that's not here
is not really not here. It's only to now
you'll tell me what's the difference if
it's to or if it's right for all
practical purposes it's not here. No,
there's a huge difference cuz that's
so we don't see it as if it's we don't
see it as if it's so that's there's
nothing you can do about the you'll be
allowed to eat. It says very in the
between the arguing
or
holds
as if it's and
even going
therefore even that's going to be
whereas that sits and therefore the
is not viewed as if it's now that you
can't eat and by the way even if you sit
You can't eat something that's can make
it that it doesn't stare the carbon but
it won't allow you to eat it. But the
bottom line is whatever is yeah that's a
problem but we don't see it as
and as a result even though but is going
to be so a very
here in terms of what and are arguing
about but the now is going to ask three
kashes the third is from our Mishna as
we mentioned but three kashes on's
explanation of the
he asked the first
as it relates to the parts of the went
on the island. Everybody agrees that was
on
and yet you find that argued this
identical is regarding such a case.
What would be if one of the became Tommy
both of
because of like he said in the Mishna
there's a concept of incar
see here we have
which for sure is
our right it's the same language said
which is almost verbaten what they said
in the now they're not arguing
They're not arguing where the tum
descended upon a part of the carbon that
was eaten. They're arguing where the tum
descended upon a part of the carbon that
was put on the by the way just to read
the B some more carefully
is saying that if one of the became
what does that mean because the wasb
comes out you're allowed to do the with
the and you could do the with the
together with the meaning you don't have
to worry about any even on the part
because They're niggra buster each
other. Whereas the say no that's Tommy
is Tommy that's but the bottom line is
you seem to have the same because here
we're dealing with
there's no
you can't tell me
and
because everybody sits when it comes to
that's a big
second is the one who has the second one
from another
even if one of the
all the
any person from another can do the
carbon
now the context over there is so we know
that
that's Tommy at the time that brought
the carbon he got pushed off to what
was allowed to bring the carbon
that you don't need or even of to be to
say even one shave at That's you have
the same and therefore says if one is
even if the other a member of the other
can bring the current because he's
included in this leniency of and he said
what's the reason maybe the ones that
are that should have the ones that
should not have so he explained
now over here
right sounds like again the same
language anguage and there's no why
because even
but that's only where it's of a carbon
right is only if the carbon is but if
the sto there's no idea of tit
you see the of playing itself out the
third and this is the most obvious one
said just read the
So if you're going to tell me that is
not like a den in but it's based on
you should have said that
and said based on all three of these
cases one from the fact that you see
they're arguing even by even though
everybody else says
and from the fact that you see that was
said regarding
even though everybody else is not on and
just from the language of the Mishna
it's reviewed something
And
you have to say there was a a very clear
mess that had from
a carbon can't be that and only that is
the inud moving along next mission. So
we now return to our regular program is
related to pickle. So one of the themes
of the last few daffin was piggle as it
relates to corbonus that involved
breads. The kyeris that came along with
the
another carbon that came along with
breads was the carbon. carbon to came
along with 40 breads known as the our
Mishna is going to discuss
piggle of the additionally we're going
to return to the and discuss related to
piggle that's
says the
so
can't be what does this even mean asks
what does this
In the event that a carbon
had in mind
your classic pickle he the carbon the
become meaning if somebody would eat you
would be of
what would be if while the was doing the
carbon he had a mind to eat from the
bread itself would become pickle if
somebody would eat from it would
But as it relates to the buser of the
carbon it would not be pickled. So
means that to eat from the itself from
the
creates on the
means that
does not create an
oner of the
mission continues and says the same is
true regarding the
same relationship that the
again the
In the event that
and he had in mind to eat the
soer and will be pickle
if however while he was the he had to
eat the
beigle
but the not going to be. So again
to eat the ber of the
makes
does not make
says my time. So my time what we just
said a lot of things says
what's the
piggle on the buser of the carbon makes
not only the buser of the piggle in that
if somebody eats from it would be but it
would make the also into a
maybe he'll tell me a good
basic
says
If you take a look at Rashi, Rashi says
grammatically speaking, this P should
have been written a little bit
differently and from the fact that it
says
so I learned from here that
as if included in the word is the also
if included avid
would impact the but says if that's the
case I mean I hear it's a good shot but
then it should be true in the reverse as
well on the
should make the tidle because again
is the is because the are included in so
that's why
because it's one and the same well then
says because it's one and the same says
holy that's not fair because I can tell
you
it's a one-way relationship that the is
included in the shame but the is not
included in the shame so as it relates
to a piggle in the to being
it affects but as it relates to being
that it wouldn't be true in the reverse.
So again you want to know it's maybe
based on
and it's only the that's called is not
called but say I have a different
because this of the was said with
regards to the and with regards to the
the
so it's the same exact right over there.
There's no anywhere that the of the is
called the is bread and the sheep. It's
two different things. And being that the
Mishna said this with regards to the as
well, it must be there's a one sizefits
all
for the Mishna and the Hezb of Afghan
would work for the ratio wouldn't work
for the safe. It must be something else
is going on over here. says there is you
want to know what is
in both cases there's an theor of the is
the carbon the tel is the theor of the
is the the is the if you have a and the
tel gets slept along but if you have a
on the the does not get slept along very
along the
along the and the same is true with
regards to the says that the Mishna
needed to tell me the regarding and its
breads and regarding its meaning we just
said it's like the same thing one's a
one's a so if you tell me by one I
should know by the other says I need to
I only had to I would have thought
Maybe
if you have a regarding the I'm sorry if
you have a regarding the is not included
because you don't find anywhere that
you're doing with both parts of this
carbon together for example there's no
that was done together why we're talking
about because
but as relates to you find they were
brought together for
being that there was
of that was done with the and together.
So there would have been that that
creates a zik that creates a very strong
relationship between these two parts of
the carbon. So that if you do or you
have avle by the breads maybe that is
piggle would go ahead and it would
affect the as well. So it's for that
reason even though I know already the
I still need to know that the is because
I could have thought there it's one and
even the one's the but the makes us look
at it as one and being that we're
looking at as one maybe I would think
that the is
that's why I need to know not only with
regards to the but even with regards to
the that the is
Now doesn't explain why once I know the
by theim I still need the Mishna to tell
it to me by right we just said had I
only known by I would have known by okay
so tell me and I would know
so Rashi adds to that and Rashi picks up
where the garra leaves off and Rashi
says
had it only said I would have thought
maybe the only time avas piggle in
is is by the because they're one unit as
opposed to by the as we just mentioned
they're so different. So maybe
that's why I need both cases. So I need
that
and I need by the
toad that even by the
doesn't have the ability to be
either way that's why I need and in the
mission
asks Rob the following question
if somebody
and he has a to of the
what does this mean? actually says what
it means is he had a
so between the he was but it was only
half his eyes of half his eyes of so
what's the sh
is it or is it not so the garra says
like this as it relates to the
told I have no why
if a person would
while he was acting the toas
of the it wouldn't be ava's pickle like
the mission said
so certainly if he had a to eat only a
half of and half of it wouldn't be able
to be
what's
the become
do we say that being that at the end of
the day you had a of and of Each one of
these makavas has the ability to make
bigle. So maybe it's going to be
considered a mach or maybe the and the
can't bear as it relates to making the
into pigle meaning do we say that it
could be mitarif or do we say that it
can't be mitar. Let's just take apart
raash
wanted to know like this. Somebody's
bringing a carbon to the he has a mind
to eat a half as of the and he has a
mind to eat a half a zas of
is it or is it not? Now he said as it
relates to making the buser pickle it's
part it won't be pickle. Why not?
Because a on the buser can make the ber
pickle but a mash on the can make the
boss a pickle. and being that half of
sheer of the pickle was the and made
this won't be pickle. Now if you notice
the lion of the was
what's the and by the way if anything
you would say maybe if you have a 100%
on the that can't be the but if half of
the was on the and only half of the was
on the maybe it could be the but the is
and the way Rashi explains it is because
anytime you're working with it syrup to
create a pigle so it's always leap of
faith. It's always a little bit of a
stretch. It's easier to make avigar
than it is when you do have to. By the
way, exhibit A for that is the beginning
of today's. So anytime you have to come
out to it makes the
so
that we have a on you can't make the toy
the piggle certainly we have to come on
to it where half of it is on the and the
other half is the buser even though the
half that's on the buser you would think
would make it better but at the end of
the day I have to come on to it and if I
have to come on to it look it wouldn't
work. What is the shil the shil is with
the leim become pigle what's the should
become pigle because both half and both
that I had areas that can render the
piggle
so the
makes and even though
the said so that half of zas is also for
the what then is the question the
question is could they be mitarif or
could they not be mitar this is question
that asked he told him
in this case too meaning just like in
the case of
the
becomes it's just a that's not bigle in
this case would be the same thing in
other words the half of the half of
would bear to now make the pigle however
as it relates to the the would not
become very gishma stating that the
gmorra asks a very very chickavic
question I don't understand why this is
the why don't we say we should invoke
the first of the
and based on we should say that it's
impossible that of
would be
when it's not what's the
misfeld
Now, this
sounds a lot like
right.
So, what does this even mean? So, Rashi
explains like this. The is the methagle.
Why is the tofagle? Because the has the
ability to make the lem into
the
is a [ __ ] of because the
doesn't have the ability to make the
into
the
is than the [ __ ] of obviously right the
methagel can make the can be the le the
which is of the cow because it doesn't
have the ability to go ahead and make
the into pickle
which is the which is a because it has
the ability to make the into because
but in this is it itself doesn't become
the which is only a but it doesn't
become pigle it's a fagel it doesn't
have the ability to be
the
faggle. So certainly it shouldn't be
piggle either.
That I understand Rob's Rob is coming to
say that
and
oftle
not to make the pickle. Why? Because
both halfim are considered as it relates
to the but only the half of is
considered regarding the half of is not
but there's a mid called and based on
the of this would seem to be debunked
and the reason is because in this
scenario the is and the is a a cow. So
how could it be that the which is the is
not pigle yet the which is the is going
to be
the which is which means it's doesn't
become now why doesn't it become because
the is not the
which is trying maybe to be but doesn't
have the ability
even though it should work but based on
the work
do we say
like this
was a story a person
this person went into his friend's
vineyard and he planted mother. So the
background to this uh story and the
background to this bry is that there's
something called kilakam. What's
kilakaram? You're not allowed to plant
any types of plants in uh a kum. What
happens if you do it all becomes
so there was a story where somebody went
and he planted
something in his friends.
Okay. Now
the story came to the and said they said
this is going to be
but the is going to be now we'll see the
is going to say that the reason said
this was is because
so you can't go make somebody else's
thing is I don't have the ability to
make your field into so the person that
went ahead and planted this he did it
that was a shalom
So therefore when he planted the
his became but his friends Karum he
didn't have the ability to so it's for
that reason the said that which was done
that's going to be a problem but
according to your logic
we should say the same over
What's the
over here? Why are they the because
they're making the right was saying is
yet they themselves don't become we just
said that
the
which is only
because I can't make the in
certainly shouldn't become meaning in
this case seem to be the and the seem to
be the the
don't become So
that should not become. Now again this
is interesting but it's the same
methodology of the previous. So the
Gmorra said
do we say like that if we do then in
this case we should say the same thing
it's not in the case of the reason the
approached it the way they did and the
reason maybe they were completely
not impressed by the is because ham
canvas full
The only types of that becomes if
they're planted together with aim areas.
Why? That's not for now. But those are
the only plants that become
being that what we're dealing with over
the years is so
felt that we can go ahead and we can
make up our own rules. So we're going to
say that you who went and you planted
this thing, we're going to give you a
even though it shouldn't be it's going
to be but the
who didn't do anything wrong. There's no
reason for us to go ahead and for us to
penalize him. However,
but this is a real case of this is a
it's not a we're dealing with piggle.
We're dealing with real day rice
situations over here and is the rob
you're telling me that
to make the
I think you can argue
you don't say it because there it's not
a sh anyways there it's only
have a right to do whatever they want
but over here it's rice
there were those that said
that whole
not regarding the but with regards to so
it was the same exact sh but not in the
context of in the context of so what
would it the
was if somebody wanted the
to eat a half a of the of the and half
as of
what is regarding
and explained again it's the same exact
we'll see it's the same exact shock of
this is like literally on the but we're
talking about it in the context of it's
not in the context of the carbon so
again as it relates to making there's no
sh
if the
was on the if you have a
of it wouldn't have the ability to make
the piggle. Why? Because the
like the mission says so certainly if
you have to come on to if it's only a
half his eyes there's no okay what then
is the
become
do we say that being that a half of or
being that
have the ability to make the so half of
each or maybe no maybe being that you
have to come on if you can't be mits
with a half a she of and a half a she of
so told him as well
the same sack of as well that yeah I
hold that is obviously not going to be
pickled you never even entertained that
but as it relates to the yeah you do say
same
why do we say
meaning the
which is thus it's
still ain't a misfle.
So
the which is the it only is trying to be
but doesn't have the ability to be
mafagle in it certainly shouldn't be
pickle says the
same rebuke
after
we get the version we don't speak out
the whole but the same exact sh
is awesome.
But
the person that did this, the person
that planted, he's the one that we
cancel.
There's no reason for us to cancel.
But over here, maybe we should say
either way. There were two versions of
what happened afterwards is the same. It
was the same Rav had the same the same
the from the case of the same but the
question is was Rav said regarding the
where somebody was bringing a carb in he
had a half of half of and that's where
Ravkin that the two halves with regards
to the becoming or was it with regards
to the
The one that had Rob's regarding the
he would certainly have it regarding the
one that had it on the it could be
could be by the
and the reason is is because
we find there's a zik there's a
connection between the two of them
there's a mitzvah to do with the two of
them so being that there's some sort of
connection between the two of them over
there of which would be which was really
a little bit of the or a little bit of
the
but as relates to the we don't find any
connection between the and between the
it could be this is the same that either
way
but the one that said it by it could be
he said it only by could be he didn't
say it by the
taught that this is what had asked from
somebody
and he says I'm doing it to eat a from
his friend tomorrow what's the
when he says his friend who's the friend
of one of the other well if that's the
case because I'm bringing one I can't
have a mash pickle on the other
maybe when he says he means to eat the
maybe that's the friend of the and if
that's the case it would be now if
someone has a to eat the bread only the
isle that was the mishna but albeit the
would be so according to
was a slightly different shil the shil
was I mean not slightly actually very
different if someone'sing one of the
kips and he has a mind is you didn't
explain what means could mean right is
the compadre of this does it mean the
other or maybe it means the breads right
I could hear both if it means the other
it's not at all if it means the bread
then I'll cl the breads it's going to be
so
at first glance it's enough it's the
pigle
What do you see from here? You see the
word means right? Just read the
pick of the other is if he had in mind
they're both going to be cautious. So
what are we referring to as right here?
But the says
maybe in that he said
meaning the video is not getting
involved in what the is trying to tell
me as it relates to the relationship
between these two in the context of but
you want to know what means maybe that
Mishna is not talking about when he said
maybe he said
that's not the objective of the Mishna
but if he would say that could be a shil
the bottom line is I don't think you
could be push says
from the one
in the event that somebody had piggle
while he was bringing a carbon. The
question is that came together with the
carbon do they become piggle do they not
become
says yes
but only it's only once
in the event that a person would bring a
carbon he would have a pickle regarding
the so here he had a pickle to do
something with
that that already would not create any
pickle on
in the event
to eat from the boss of the
sob
if however he had in mind to be
will be pickled but
won't be pickled. So this is very very
similar to the of the
meaning the relationship between the
mirror the relationship of those breads
and the carbon where the is that
now
but the bottom line is
similar
And presumably the reason is the same
reason because what's the is then just
like we saw if the of the is the
is the
is the tel theor is the tuffle the
tuffle can't be
on this note
So in the event that a carbon was
brought when
so that come together with are included
in the
somebody would eat from the drink from
the
and the reason is because the dam of
this carbon was mim to be brought on is
so that reason it's included in the laws
of pickle.
So this is of course pickle 101 as we've
been talking about the relationship
between two things when it comes to
pickle has to be a relationship right
you're doing and you're having a that
the thing that becomes
should be done being that became to go
so it has that relationship as a result
it's included this
He just explains himself a little bit
better.
Mayor, but in the price we have another
sheet. We have the
told
when it comes to a person can bring a
carbon today and he has up to 10 days to
bring the if that's the case. I'm not
sure you can view the as being that it
should become piggle as a result of
with the carbon I may have told him
even when I said I meant it
when it's being brought together with
the meaning if it's being brought
together with the then it's included
told him even if it's being brought
together with the but
meaning it's being brought right now
what if I decide not to bring it with
and I want to bring it with another I
could do So at the time that I'm having
the mach's pickle in the carbon even if
I have in mind for the to be brought
even if I was but I could always be I
could always bring it with another as a
result I don't think it should ever be
included in this
mayor what's
holds
they disagree with the whole premise of
mayor because even if I brought in right
now but I could always uh change it so
it's not considered part of the ra
disagrees with that he says that if I
bring the together with the carbon it
becomes part and parcel of the carbon
it's hook
at that point that you have to bring
with this carbon you want to bring with
another carbon you can't similar to the
with the breads become part of the at
the time being that you can't change it
so now it becomes included so
interesting that in the of
between
everybody seems to agree that is what it
is because for sure the and are part of
the carbon when it comes to the it's
mayor who holds this that the is
considered part of the carbon regarding
piggle disagree and the reason the
disagree is because the hold that the is
never really considered part of the
carbon number one I could bring it in 10
days and even if now I I'm like together
with this carbon I'm but I could always
change my mind and being that I could
change my mind I could always bring it
with another carbon meaning once it gets
kadusha you can't just use
Right. But I could always bring it for
something else and bring that I can
bring it with another carbon. So it's
not part and parcel. Therefore you don't
have the den of
another
in the event that a carbon or was doing
the carbon that was brought with the
right. So the ash together with a what
would be if he had piggle while he's
bringing the asham would it infect the
would that now be included in the is or
pickles so if somebody eats from it
would be so the bra says yeah
because the
is it relationship who says this
but the other
You don't have to bring the L together
with the so if I can bring it in 10 days
it shouldn't be included as part of the
it shouldn't be subject to this of
told
he only said this when it's coming
together told
I could always change it and bring this
with another meaning once it gets kad so
it's a I can bring it with another
explain
Once I bring this together with this it
becomes
with and as a result I don't have the
option to switch it. If I don't have the
option to switch it it's stuck with it
now and therefore and therefore it's
considered part of the thus if I have a
on the is going to be on the and the
reason is is because the is the carbon
the tuffle is the and this is going to
be the same. Really if you just do a
sikum on the last two mishnas the last
two mishnas we're discussing again laws
of piggle where there's like an and a
tuffle of the carbon you have the carbon
the is the carbon the and then the is
the is the
carbon and the tel is the or the comes
together with the carbon where is the
carbon is a tel or the which is
considered to the so the is the asham
and the tel is
as it relates to highle pickle. A on the
would render the tuffle pickle. So if
somebody eats from it would be a on the
would create a problem for the tuffle
but it would have no impact on the
stating that when it comes to the
already it's remain for a different
reason because that the is never really
part of the and is never really part of
the because you could always be number
one you can bring and even if you right
now it doesn't become one and the same
in contrast to the of the and the of the
literally becomes one and the same held
not that way because explained that once
you do the and you have in mind these
and this like it does become one and the
same and therefore it's going to be
included in that very same