Menachos 109

Today's daf is Menachos daf kuf tes and we will begin from the Mishnah on the top of daf kuf tes omeid al. So the Mishnah says, if somebody says that I am going to bring a carbon yakrivenu bamikdash, he has an obligation to bring a carbon and he has an obligation to bring that carbon in the Beis Hamikdash. Doesn't sound like such a chiddush. The im ikrivehu beis Chonyo, if however this person vowed a carbon and rather than bringing it in the Beis Hamikdash, he brought it in Beis Chonyo, he brought it somewhere else, lo yatza. The halacha is he didn't fulfill his obligation. What happens if the person says that I want to bring a carbon and he specifically said that he's going to bring it in Beis Chonyo? The halacha is he should bring this carbon in the Beis Hamikdash but if he brought it in Beis Chonyo, but bidei aved, if he brought the carbon not in the Beis Hamikdash but rather in this other bayis, Beis Chonyo, yatza. He fulfilled his obligation. Rebbe Shimon ben Nannai says no, that if he brought it in Beis Chonyo, he did not fulfill his obligation. If somebody is a nazir and we know that one of the halachos of a nazir is that when he completed his nazirus, he had to bring three carbons, an oilo, a chatas and a shlamim. The halacha is he has to bring them in the Beis Hamikdash. He has to bring the carbons in the Beis Hamikdash. If however he brought the carbons in Beis Chonyo, again not in the Beis Hamikdash, lo yatza. He didn't fulfill his nazirus. If however he stipulated at the time that he took upon nazirus that he's going to bring the carbons not in the Beis Hamikdash but rather in Beis Chonyo, then the halacha is he has to bring them in the Beis Hamikdash. If however he still brought the carbons in the Beis Hamikdash, if however he brought them in Beis Chonyo, yatza. He fulfilled his obligation. Again, Rebbe Shimon ben Nannai Rebbe Shimon says no, absolutely not. So the Mishnah at first glance seems to be saying something fascinating. So obviously he has an obligation to bring a carbon. Where does he bring the carbon? In the Beis Hamikdash. If however he brought it in Beis Chonyo, lo yatza. There is a time however where someone that says I am going to bring a carbon could fulfill his obligation of bringing a carbon by bringing it not in the Beis Hamikdash rather in Beis Chonyo. And that is if he says I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo. So what exactly was Beis Chonyo? So Rebbe Shimon ben Nannai is going to tell us hashtag the rest of the story. But for now, just to read the lashon of the Rambam in his Pirush Hamishnayos. The Rambam says that Shimon Hatzaddik had a son whose name was Chonyo. Chonyo [snorts] moved, as we'll see later, rather dramatically to Alexandria. Alexandria shel Mitzrayim. Uvana bayis b'Alexandria lashon HaRambam bitzuras Beis Hamikdash. He built a bayis that looked, says the Rambam, like the Beis Hamikdash. So there was another Beis Hamikdash. There was a Beis Hamikdash that was not in Yerushalayim on Har Hamoriah, on the Har Habayis, but rather was in Alexandria shel Mitzrayim. And that's the Beis Chonyo that the Mishnah is referring to. So if the Mishnah says if someone says I am going to bring a carbon, you have to bring the carbon in the Beis Hamikdash. You can't bring the carbon in Beis Chonyo. He's stating there if he said I am going to bring a carbon and you stipulated that I am going to bring it in Beis Chonyo, then the halacha is if he brought it in Beis Chonyo, yatza. Now at first glance, if somebody is going to say I am going to bring a carbon and he's going to bring the carbon in Beis Chonyo, regardless of what exactly Beis Chonyo was, we know it wasn't the Beis Hamikdash. And if it wasn't the Beis Hamikdash, then this person that's bringing a carbon is going to be over the issur shchutei chutz and halachas chutz and he's going to be chayav kareis. And the truth is that as we'll see in the Gemara, that's true. The Gemara is not debating that. There's nothing to talk about that if somebody brings this carbon in Beis Chonyo, The Mishnah is looking at it more from the hilchos nedarim standpoint. This person said I am going to bring a carbon. So can I fulfill my neder of bringing a carbon by bringing it in Beis Chonyo? It depends. If you said I am going to bring a carbon and you can't fulfill by bringing it in Beis Chonyo. If you said I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo, then he could fulfill his neder by bringing it in Beis Chonyo. But in terms of the issur shchutei chutz halachas chutz, of course, regardless of what Beis Chonyo is, and we'll see it was a machlokes between Rebbe Yehudah what exactly Beis Chonyo was. But it doesn't matter as it relates to the halacha of shchutei chutz because the halacha of shchutei chutz states that any single carbon, anything that's kodesh that's brought as a hakrava any place outside of the Azarah, one will be chayav kareis for either way. So the Mishnah said I am going to bring a carbon and he clearly stipulated that I am going to bring it in Beis Chonyo, the halacha is of course he has to bring it in the Beis Hamikdash but if he brought it in Beis Chonyo, yatza. The Gemara says yatza. How could have to bring this carbon in Beis Chonyo. Meaning it's as if he said that when it comes time to be mafresh the animal, if I'll bring it in the Beis Hamikdash, wonderful. But if I'll decide not to bring it in the Beis Hamikdash, then I shouldn't be chayav kareis and I shouldn't now have an obligation to be mafresh another carbon to fulfill my neder. So it's just like if somebody would say I am going to bring a carbon. So the halacha is go and bring this as a carbon. If something happens to it, what's the difference between I am going to bring a carbon and I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo? If you said I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo, you wouldn't be chayav kareis. So of course you were supposed to bring it. But if I didn't, then that's also fine. There's no obligation to replace this animal if something ever happened to it. So that's essentially the way we're explaining the Mishnah. We say that he said I am going to bring a carbon. So he has an obligation to bring a carbon. So definitely there is a carbon obligation. But at the same time, if obligated to go now and bring another animal because by saying I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo, it's the equivalent thereof of saying that I'm not going to be chayav kareis for this animal. Thus by him bringing it in Beis Chonyo, the animal is no longer alive. There is no more obligation of I am going to bring a carbon. Rebbe Nachman says that if that's the case, the Mishnah had two examples of this halacha. Two times where somebody can say I am going to bring a carbon, bring it in Beis Chonyo and fulfill his neder. What was the second case? If somebody says I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo. The person said he's going to bring it in Beis Chonyo. So he has to bring it in the Beis Hamikdash. If he brought the carbons in Beis Chonyo, yatza. The Gemara says yatza. How could he fulfill his obligation of bringing these carbons in Beis Chonyo if Beis Chonyo is not the Makom Hamikdash? So what's Rebbe Nachman going to say? He's going to explain the same way he explained the first case. That when the person took upon himself the nazirus, he says I want to be a nazir and I'm going to bring the carbons of my nazirus the way every nazir has to. But at the same time, if something happens to those carbons, I don't want to be chayav kareis. How could you do that? Once you're a nazir, you have an obligation to bring carbons. And if you have an obligation to bring carbons, you are chayav kareis. The only way for you to now not be a nazir anymore is by bringing the carbons. That's why if someone is a nazir today, even though once upon a time a nazir was 30 days, but today if somebody says I am going to be a nazir, he's going to be a nazir at Beis Chonyo. Because the only way to complete your nazirus is by bringing carbons. So once this person said I am going to be a nazir, if the way we understand it is he was a nazir. He just doesn't want to be chayav kareis on the carbons. How's that possible? In the world of I am going to bring a carbon, that's an abstract neder that you took upon yourself. I'm going to bring a carbon. Okay, so you could be a nazir with an obligation to bring carbons or you could be a nazir without an obligation to bring carbons. That's the difference between I am going to bring a carbon and I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo. That's a Mishnah in Maseches Megillah the first perek. But a nazir has to bring his carbons. There's no way to not be a nazir anymore if you didn't bring your carbons. So there's no way to be explaining that when he said I am going to be a nazir and I am going to bring the carbons in Beis Chonyo, that what he meant to say was that he won't be chayav kareis on the carbons of his nazirus. A nazir commonly brings his carbons. Right? If he doesn't bring his carbons, there's no way for him to not be a nazir anymore. Rebbe Nachman says Rebbe Nachman said we have to say a whole different explanation. rather than bringing a real carbon in the Beis Hamikdash, I'll give a gift to Hakadosh Baruchu by bringing this in in Beis Chonyo. The point is of course I am going to bring a carbon. You have to bring the carbon in the Beis Hamikdash. If however he brought it in Beis Chonyo, lo yatza. There is a time however where someone that says I am going to bring a carbon could fulfill his obligation of bringing a carbon by bringing it not in the Beis Hamikdash rather in Beis Chonyo. And that is if he says I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo. So what exactly was Beis Chonyo? So Rebbe Shimon ben Nannai is going to tell us hashtag the rest of the story. now, just to read the lashon of the Rambam in his Pirush Hamishnayos. The Rambam says that Shimon Hatzaddik had a son whose name was Chonyo. Chonyo moved, as we'll see later, rather dramatically to Alexandria. Alexandria shel Mitzrayim. Uvana bayis b'Alexandria lashon HaRambam bitzuras Beis Hamikdash. He built a bayis that looked, says the Rambam, like the Beis Hamikdash. So there was another Beis Hamikdash. There was a Beis Hamikdash that was not in Yerushalayim on Har Hamoriah, on the Har Habayis, but rather was in Alexandria shel Mitzrayim. And that's the Beis Chonyo that the Mishnah is referring to. So if the Mishnah says if someone says I am going to bring a carbon, you have to bring the carbon in the Beis Hamikdash. You can't bring the carbon in Beis Chonyo. He's stating there if he said I am going to bring a carbon and you stipulated that I am going to bring it in Beis Chonyo, then the halacha is if he brought it in Beis Chonyo, yatza. Now at first glance, if somebody is going to say I am going to bring a carbon and he's going to bring the carbon in Beis Chonyo, regardless of what exactly Beis Chonyo was, it wasn't the Beis Hamikdash. And if it wasn't the Beis Hamikdash, then this person that's bringing a carbon is going to be over the issur shchutei chutz and halachas chutz and he's going to be chayav kareis. And the truth is that as we'll see in the Gemara, that's true. The Gemara is not debating that. There's nothing to talk about that if somebody in Beis Chonyo, he's going to be chayav kareis. The Mishnah is looking at it more from the hilchos nedarim standpoint. This person said I am going to bring a carbon. So can I fulfill my neder of bringing a carbon by bringing it in Beis Chonyo? It depends. If you said I am going to bring a carbon and you can't fulfill by bringing it in Beis Chonyo. If you said I am going to bring a carbon in Beis Chonyo, then he it in Beis Chonyo. But in terms of the issur shchutei chutz halachas chutz, of course, regardless of what Beis Chonyo is, and we'll see it was a machlokes between Rebbe Yehudah what exactly Beis Chonyo was. But it doesn't matter as it relates to the halacha of shchutei chutz because the halacha of shchutei chutz states that any single carbon, anything that's kodesh that's brought as a hakrava any place outside of the Azarah, one will be chayav kareis for either way. So the Mishnah said I am going to bring a carbon and he clearly stipulated that I am going to bring it in Beis Chonyo, the halacha is of course he has to bring it in the Beis Hamikdash but if he brought it in Beis Chonyo, yatza. The Gemara says yatza. How could he fulfill his neder by bringing this carbon in Beis Chonyo? Being that Beis Chonyo is not the Makom Hamikdash, it doesn't the neder of I am going to bring a carbon mean that he's going to bring this as a carbon and by bringing it in Beis Chonyo, he just killed it. It's like shooting it. It's clearly not a fulfillment of I am going to bring a carbon. Rebbe Nachman says that by this person saying that I am going to bring the carbon in Beis Chonyo, the way we look at it is as follows. He said I am going to bring a carbon. So he clearly has an obligation to bring a carbon. But at the same time, he's also saying that I want to have to bring this carbon in Beis Chonyo. Meaning it's as if he said that when it comes time to be mafresh the animal, if I'll bring it in the Beis Hamikdash, wonderful. But if I'll decide not to bring it in the Beis Hamikdash, then I shouldn't be chayav kareis and I shouldn't now have an obligation to be mafresh another carbon to fulfill my neder. So it's just like if somebody would say I am going to bring a carbon. So the halacha is go and bring this as a carbon. If something happens to it, what's the you can't satisfy by bringing an oil and base rania. What we're being metered this person is by saying that love that he was to make bring a real carbon. What we know for sure he wants to do is is to give a gift to Barack Obama and he's sort of saying let's start them on the one hand, but then again chakra that love that it should be a real oil. So really depending on what he ends up doing it's going to be a real oil. If he ends up bringing in the base it's going to come out that this was a real oil and he will do it etc. If however he doesn't go to the base and he brings it in base rania so then we're going to look at it as a regular gift. The reason he fulfilled this nether is because his nether was never necessarily a real it was contingent. What was it contingent on depending on what he decides to do. The same is true with regards to the the point is we assume that all we know for sure is this person he wants to take upon himself to he wants to be himself a little bit. The point is again to try to make it to the base if I do then this will be a real if he never makes it to the base so for 30 days he didn't drink wine he didn't touch his hair he wasn't a mason then he went and he brought these three three animals in base rania. He's not a anymore because if he brought the to base rania then it was never really a real says the so who had explained the mission differently he understood the mission that when a person says oil that he is oil without a the question was that works for a real oil it doesn't work for a real so the point is going to learn the way we learn the mission mission mission I agree with you I understand that the same way you understand that that this person is not necessarily being a real he's saying either I'll be a real if I could bring the to the base or it's just going to be so but as it relates to oil I'm not sure but the point is the mission maintained his position of how he explained the mission with regards to the ratio of the mission he agreed with the way explained the mission in the safer of the mission so according to the ratio and the safer of the mission is consistent according to the mission and the ratio and the mission and the safer is different but the point is the mission the great mission the mission he understood the mission like how do you know that the point is I really the mission the mission if somebody says a real and then he added the words chakra the base if he agreed and he ended up bringing it in but at the same time the mission he's going to be so why is this a because the way explained the mission the real chakra the base was a a real oil he was to bring a carbon oil and once he's the carbon that animal is a regular oil. Now at the same time from the standpoint he wasn't so if he ends up bringing this oil outside of the base he won't have to replace it because he clearly said I'm not taking a on this but at the same time it was definitely a real oil it's for that reason he'll be for bringing this carbon oil outside of the base according to however when he said a real oil chakra the base he wasn't necessarily oil what he was saying was is that if I bring it in the base and it should be oil if I don't bring it in the base it should be so what happens now if he brings it outside of the base is he so no because it's that it was so from the fact that said a real chakra that's a that held like not like a real a real chakra the base if somebody says I want to bring a carbon oil and I'm going to bring it in the rashi says what is the mean because this person thinks mission mission the mission the mission the mission maybe the mission has so the mission the mission the mission the mission the mission the 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mission the mission the mission that's possible that served in a base the he certainly would not be allowed to serve in the base again the mission is going to make the that it would seem clear from the mission that as bad as base rania was it wasn't as bad as the base because if it was as bad as the base what's the mission same thing see from the mission that base rania had a little bit more merit at the very least than a regular pagan house of worship so what exactly was base rania so we'll have to stay tuned either way again the mission says the mission are not allowed to be in the base and it's learned out from a the mission says the mission the mission the mission that worshiped and served are not allowed to bring carbon on the mission the mission the only thing they are allowed to do is what they're allowed to do is they're allowed to eat the mission the mission says the mission this is what the mission is saying is that they were treated like the mission the mission the mission 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So even though this person was a regular it doesn't matter cuz the criteria for disqualification for a client that worshiped that did avoid the in a base of is not did he do there's no even he can't do the lock is that if somebody was a client and he did what we consider avoid in the base of two and avoid the zone disqualifies him. So if you heard of being that the love of it's for that reason that client should carbon client did he worshiped in a base of and he did Zvika again for avoid the zone but he did it for he did it for amazing that's the mission question over here is not the amazing that we know the question is what if you only did a client of Nachman says carbon then it's okay to say that in carbon so quite it's only quite even I'm not mean a lot of to say the person says that person in that teaches us this client that the client that did avoid the and now let it do avoid in the base of said the base of Israel the meek show avoid it says show and it says of what are these two things my love show avoid the show again for avoid the amazing show you stumbled it was a mistake avoid always means amazing that's the case the mission says that even if you only did a even if it was only a even then he'll be disqualified from doing Nachman Nachman said that it's only if he did it for amazing that he becomes disqualified did it for amazing not mix show the avoid it's not avoid mix show the way you read the person was mix show the avoid the point is it has to be avoid it has to be avoid Nachman what's my maker so I have to say this maker that show this maker in carbon the lock of the mission would apply is from that person in the person says I mix show mix show avoid is amazing Nachman Nachman said that no show this maker carbon what's his maker the time you learn from a person the person says and this is in select the keeper of the person the context over here is someone did an avoid the show an avoid of says the person and the person and from this person the person learns that a client who himself did avoid the zone he can bring his own carbon maybe could a client bring a carbon for himself so there's an idea of carbon matter but person and this is a person that's addresses this question a client can and the context over here is avoid the zone and clearly a client that did avoid the zone he can go ahead and bring his own carbon what was the avoid the zone are we talking about where he did a my area show again I feel amazing now what's the the is that even though we did avoid the zone still he's allowed to bring a carbon had he done even the amazing he'd be allowed to bring a carbon that was the lock of client because show avoid the lock of so probably talking about you see that even though he did it doesn't matter still it doesn't disqualify from doing the doesn't the mission say the person says yeah that's only if you did it amazing but if you only did it it's going to be okay from the fact that a client who did avoid the zone bring his own carbon so you see clearly he's allowed to do avoid in the base of talking about that's what thought either way that would be really the person person is talking about what was the what's the even if the client would have done he'd be allowed to do avoid the in the base of what's the that if he did the show again that he's allowed to go and bring the carbon really it is a because even though did in fact say that client avoid the carbon the only meant it said where he did the avoid the show again but if he did it for amazing avoid the show because although it's true that avoid the from a technical sense but let's be honest if somebody an animal in a pagan house of worship for avoid the zone he's certainly facilitating show so you technically speaking wasn't avoid the zone but you can have a avoid the show when you do avoid the show according to the when you do etc etc etc the show is the down and the avoid the so the show although it's not an avoid the but at the same time it is some form of show avoid the zone so it's true that show but and and it's for that reason if someone does show the show again he wouldn't be disqualified but if somebody does show the amazing he in fact possible time I avoid the lock of that this lock of that emerged from the original lock of again the original lock of Nachman was show this maker if a client worshiped in a base of he did but he did it for amazing is does he become disqualified from doing avoid in the base of according to Nachman carbon could do avoid in the base of according to in carbon he cannot do avoid the in the base of Nachman what emerged was a derivative lock of and that is amazing what's the lock of according to Nachman show the amazing being that show you don't become disqualified according to show amazing you do become disqualified in fact Nachman show is specifically argued about that second lock of did much is it show Nachman show in carbon Nachman widely avoid the show it's not show show in carbon not show that even though you show but at the same time you are facilitating avoid the zone Nachman how do I know that if somebody does show amazing he it's okay the time you learn from a person avoid the lock of another person that discusses these lock of a client that was over the show and he did show carbon but so client did avoid the zone he did show he can bring a carbon in the base of even are we talking about client that did avoid the zone my what's the show the show and now he did show show he was never a bad person he never really was a Russia he just did it for show again I love the amazing so Nachman understood the person is discussing a client that did avoid the zone amazing the show again now what was the avoid the zone was the avoid the zone show who cares if he did the show the lock of the mission that a client that does avoid the zone in a base of can't do can't do avoid the base of even if he does show so a lot of what is the talking about must be talking about show Nachman says you see clearly that show even amazing is treated differently now it is from the person the way Nachman is understanding the person now that the only time a client that show did in a base of is allowed to do show avoid in the base of if you have the very least you did show but the bottom line is is you see that if he did show even amazing is viewed differently than all the other show show who said that show amazing no because show how do you understand the person the person is really talking about where he did it the show again what was the if he did it for show again what's the he was never a what does it mean he did show and show he avoid the show again doesn't mean that after he did it he was the show the show is is more defining who he was at the time that he worshiped in the base of if he was the show when he did it avoid the show not now he did show as a second act but at the time that he did the avoid the he was the show again the lock of carbon in carbon show so we have two lock of between Nachman and regarding the lock of that a client that does avoid in the base of he's not allowed to do avoid in the base of the first lock of was if he did show again he did a real avoid the he did it for show again according to Nachman he could do avoid in the base of according to he cannot do avoid in the base of the second was if he did show again the amazing according to Nachman he could do avoid in the base of show again according to he cannot do avoid in the base of because at the end of the day show avoid the the one is going to bring two additional lock of between Nachman and the show what if somebody bows down to avoid the zone Nachman the show in carbon again Nachman is the maker he says it's carbon Nachman says not avoid the lock of what if he didn't do show again he didn't do show he didn't do but he took upon himself avoid the zone he accepted it upon himself is that enough to disqualify him again lock of Nachman the show in carbon the lock of all the lock of have we only had the first show again all the show Emily have we only had the lock of where he did show again so I would think okay over here Nachman holds his lock of the end of the day so we have an interesting really that begins with a mission. How can you have a mission of shims show the base where you show the mission of Jerusalem? And then the mission said the answer that's positive that if a client did avoid in a a base of the Zara in a client was even a bit of Zara that is that he will not be able to do avoid in the base of the mission. Now believe it or not this is a lot of my soul. So despite the fact that we don't have a base of the mission nowadays, but this is something that is very much a lot of my soul. It's an interesting question of has to cut the sign in the laws of the Caesars cut by the McHale says more than a lot of Zara. If someone is an avoid of Zara he says cut off. He's not allowed to do so someone that's an avoid of the Zara can do the mission also true and I say cut off. So the mission that if you did he's not an avoid of the Zara anymore. He then would be allowed to do the mission as if you did the avoid of the Zara only even though you're not allowed to be an avoid of the Zara by this is one of the three of Zara that are going to be but at the same time it's going to be okay. So the McHale in the mission of the Caesars cut by him says that if someone is a moment of the Zara so the mission is why you saw as cut off. What's the reason? 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Someone that's Shabbos he clearly is denying my and he's not doing a he's and Al Gabe now you have the Berg as opposed to someone that only does So you have to say some sort of again this is more for the beginning of but what seems to say is that it's when a person does a sinner somehow we can tie shop what he did we're going to define his act as an act of title. When someone's Shabbos before we define his act as an act of that's what says. So listen to says now came the point so you do that everybody knows to Raven Shabbos that most in the United States of America 1950 which will they do it because of moment there are many Shabbos morning and then afterwards they would go to work after God should be needing how can you say he's a he went to school in the morning he went to school he couldn't overcome the desire of not working on Shabbos which was very very rampant in the first part of the 20th century in the United States of America. That's what saying. That obviously is what's going on over here. You can tell me he's a if he's a why do you go to school in the morning? He would have stayed in bed. So the fact he got up early in the morning he went even if he drove to school but at the end of THE DAY HE WENT to school that's the point. So my he believed that the Shabbos that the [laughter] Shabbos before in the United States had a of a Shabbos sinner. Because the tight of a Shabbos before the reason he's treated so stringently in is because we look at what he did as an act of and you can't tell ME THAT THIS PERSON who drove to school Shabbos is a if he's a he's very misguided and he's an perhaps but at the same time you can't tell me he's a he went to school he's not a he went to he said he said he said so at the end of the day a is but he was a but sinner we view what he's doing as doing because of time that he can't overcome. A Shabbos is not So two reasons why I disagree and I think Al Capone as it relates to the that this Robin Island had said to is not a real is not a problem. He said number one because I disagree with the whole to me the which he refers to as he says it's it's and not like that says and number two he says as it relates to this specific question I think the Shabbos today most of them are but sinner. So what's the bottom line? So but about should be doesn't say that but that's essentially what says. says I I don't I don't encourage it and I think we should try to prevent it but at the same time at the very end he says >> [snorts] >> I must ain't you for sure. Either way a little bit lighter. So we spoke a lot about a lot of technical difficult has been not such an easy but moves a little bit more smoothly. 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Then he said he was not dressed in white he was dressed in black then he said and took that as an omen as a bad sign and he believed that that meant that this was the last time he was going to enter the thus he turns to his and he told him said >> [snorts] >> says the after for seven days and he passed away the and after died the stopped using the in the but after passed away for the remainder of it was no longer used incidentally every three words in this has three words three three words so we'll have to see whether or not we can get to some of this either way when passed away literally as he was dying turns to his children and he says I want my son to be the next this kind of now had an older brother older son so you got to two and a half years older than and he got jealous younger brother is going to be the one that's the I'm a lie so goes to the younger brother who's going to be the now just passed away he says let me teach you the tastes it sounds like didn't know how to do the if you didn't know how to do the he wasn't a candidate just like all but there is a condition you have to be worthy a doesn't know how to do the certainly sounds like maybe he wasn't worthy it's but is going to be the next based on the next the dying words of the older brother is now going to explain to the younger brother exactly how you're supposed to do the told him he told him that you should the first time you do the you're supposed to wear a woman's blouse and you're supposed to wear a belt that women used to wear he didn't know any better he puts on this this women clothing and he goes to do the I'm going to as standing by the he's about to do the so turns to the and he says the look at my brother is take a look at who the next is about to be my brother is wearing women's clothing you know why because he told his wife that if he ever to be the he's going to dedicate the first to her and the way he's going to do it is by wearing her clothing says the >> [snorts] >> I'll tell you what but the they couldn't believe what happened so they wanted to kill runs he started running and there was a chase he had to run so far HE LITERALLY ENDED UP IN HE ENDED up in but when he got to he built and all of the he and he started bringing on that the when when the heard about it they said mother someone who started off with good intentions and he really wanted to do in the you see look what ended up someone that goes with the intention of doing you see it's not so to make someone and take someone away from doing the they Al Capone this was version of what happened or the history of exactly how was started it started because on his deathbed decided that his younger son should be [snorts] the next older the older son was jealous apparently didn't really know that much about how you're supposed to do the which says it's but that was the fact so now goes over to tells you're supposed to do the the first time you're supposed to wear women's clothing listens tells the that the reason he did it it's not true says the reason he did it is because he made a promise to his wife that he's going to dedicate the first for they wanted to kill had no choice but to flee literally to run for his life he ends up in Alexandria he builds a what said was that was a I'll tell you what the story really was really was the so I've got meaning told his father I can't be I can't take it upon myself to be I have an older brother my older brother he's the one that's supposed to be the next and despite the fact that walked away and but was still jealous there was a little part of him that slipped you know at the end of the day he did want to be the even though he deferred for his older brother, so Khanya told Shimi, let me teach you the Shimi that was the Khanya he's the one that's going to do the same exact story now told the Khanya take a look at the net of my brother Shimi made and they had wanted to kill him. 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