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Today's
and we are seven lines from the bottom
of
today's being learned as
so we're moving along in the 12th per of
this is the home stretch Benel home
stretch. The Mishna on days had
mentioned a discussion that the great
had with the with regards to the maximum
size that a carbon is able to be said
that a min can't be made up of more than
60.
And the reason he said is because
up to 60 if you want to do the you could
do it. However, if it's going to be more
than that, you're not going to be able
to do it. So the says that the told
that it just seems that what 60 Yeah.
61. How could the be able to slice and
dice and be malik literally splitting
here? So he told them back
isn't this always the way it is
that has 40 a person could become
but if you have 40 missing literally a
this tiny amount
in the we had the longer version of
response in the ribbon says
if you have food That's the size of a
it's
if it's a minus literally a sesame seed
if you have a beggress
the bottom line is said that although I
hear but
this is the way the
laid down the law and that is we work
within and if you're off by a cimeter
you might as well be off by a mile
that's going to be an issue as it
relates to there's an idea that up to 60
he could do the bilah hence it would be
a more than 60 he can't do the bah and
as a result it wouldn't be a as a
postcript to this discussion asked what
unbeknownst to us is one of the most
famous kashas and shas the terret is
really what's famous and that is who
cares if You can't do if it's more than
60 is at the end of the day it's a
is not one of
so if the is how could the she of it
being
and to answer this said
it's true the
but for it to be that in itself is this
is a principle that and the apply to
many different way beyond the scope of
this discussion right here. Way beyond
the scope that the London might have
thought you could apply it to. And this
is very often a general rule that when
sometimes say that something's not
doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't
have to be not being
sometimes means that you don't
physically have to do it but at the same
time it has to be meaning as long as
it's then it won't be but if it's not
then it could be it would be what those
applications are learn but the bottom
line is this is the source I'll upon him
for this very wellknown
cl and policy
there is either way the way Rashi learns
the segue of the end of yesterday's daf
into the beginning of today's daf we'll
see the way tyus learns it later but the
way rashi learns it we just had a little
bit of discussion related to shim the
shear of a mka we mentioned the shear of
a mikvah and the brace we mentioned the
Shir of Tomas. We mentioned the Shir of
Tomas. So, we're going to tell a nice
story now that relates to the idea of
says
the name.
There was a story
with one mule that was in the house of
Rebi. Reb's house probably had more than
one mule. Rebi was ofd in the words of
the Gar Rebi was an
but amongst his big of different animals
that he had he had one shea that died
as dama and the went and they measured
they literally assessed how much blood
had spilled on the floor from this dead
mule and they wanted to see bivas did it
have a raas or did it not have a raves
Why did it matter? Because the were of
the opinion that to the extent that
there was a that would be
so we know that a wears two hats. An aa
is something that's also an AA is also
anatom it's also a a source of
the were of the opinion that the
dam of this praa like the praa itself
was however there has to be a certain sh
what's the re went and they were messiah
is there reas or is there not a reas to
determine whether or not there was tum
or not says the gamar sobb in the
neighborh says over this and heard it.
He says
literally hate for
this is Mishna says that and
both said
that the is and by the way we have a to
support this
said was a story
where the king's men were killing they
were
These are certain types of donkeys and
the reason they were doing it was to
feed this is good lunch. The lions that
were part of the military.
Now
it just so happens that this was taking
place at the same time that the yidden
were making their pilgrimage. They were
being to the md and they had to pass
through these roads and as a result they
got very dirty. They were emerged in the
dam of these.
It was
when they came to the mikdash, nobody
said anything to them. What would you
have expected them to say? You're to you
literally are submerged in blood. Can't
walk into the ba mikdash. Can't go to
the harabas. But nobody said a word. And
the reason nobody said a word was is
because big deal. It's the dam of these
dead donkeys. Dam of an avail. Either
way says in the name
of there is a re why because they want
to know whether there's a over here
mentions
and from both things what emerges is
that re even any of is not going to be
so when Rabibi heard this says Ishtik he
was quiet he didn't say anything only
was there and turned to and he told why
were you quiet meaning it's a good kasha
but it's not
there's a to this kasha my time and you
don't even know what the answer is I
think why didn't you give him the answer
he didn't say what the answer is yet but
he says why do you answer he told him
there's an answer really I I don't know
I I can't think of the answer and then
he said,
he says, "You expect me to be able to
come up with a terrorists to a good
you know said
three things and explained the three
things as follows. He said when it says
that in the world of the there'll be
people that are going to have to buy.
What does this mean? Rashi says this
person doesn't have any ka. As a result,
he can't produce his own tu. Okay. But
he has money and he uses his money to go
ahead and buy tu from his neighbor.
That's a farmer. That's a cla. The
reason it's a cla is because what
happens if next he doesn't have any
money. So if he has a field at the very
least he'll be able to eat whatever the
field produces but if all he has is
money
if if he has the money but if then right
so this is a
even if the person has money but if he
doesn't have the it's a problem because
what happens if at some point he's not
going to have the money
when the continued
and doubles down a little bit. You know
that's referring to his
shabas. This is a person.
He doesn't have a field to produce his
own. He doesn't even have enough money
to buy for the whole year. So he lives.
What's the issue with that? He doesn't
even have so much money. He doesn't have
an inventory even of and as a result
from week to week, paycheck to paycheck,
you never know. Maybe he's not going to
have what he needs to be able to go and
buy the food for Shabas. And then when
the concludes and says
that's talking about somebody that
relies on the baker, which means that
every single day he literally lives day
by day. He can't even buy enough food
for a week. Either way, he said this is
the
and notice it goes in three madres and
it gets worse and worse from the person
that doesn't have a field but at least
he has money to buy for a year to the
person that only has money to buy for a
week to the person that's literally
living day by day. Soib said as relates
to meal
I'm in that third category I'm
being that I'm he turns to
that
that there's a good answer to this but
please forgive me that I can't think of
it because I'm in a a situation where
he says and as a result I apologize
you're going to have to help me out over
here so thear says my what was this
terret
anticipated that he felt raibish should
have been able to come up with but
Rabibi just didn't have enough to be
able to
think
said
Yehuda was the
house of the Rashi says
Reb's family had a
and the in Reb's house whenever they had
They had an in-house attorney, an
in-house r and in-house and they used to
ask him all the
and he was the one that commanded them
to do it and this was like we're so it's
aishn and this is also said
there are six things where was and was
so we know ordinarily was
say
and one of them
is the is it Tommy or is it not Tommy
and B says it's
even when Basil was this by the way is
so he's going with
that held
added to that he said that when was they
were only and the reason
Because if you take of and you make it
into a solid it would turn into a gaz
and the baser is the so as a result the
dam has to be the kaz equivalent thereof
which is a re but the bottom line is you
see here
was that the dam of is that's the
name of a mess a mess that happened with
a rebi
What do you mean? We know from
didn't know an answer said you should
have known the answer. What is the
answer is the one who taught it to us
says you want to know what the answer
was. The answer was that that
was in base. It happened.
Who was that? It was the Tanaud.
is of the opinion that is so that's why
he went and he passing the way he
basking does it with the Mishna in idias
no
just so happens with another
himself is the one that said that
according to is and that he passing the
way he passing the bottom is it was a
big where the dam of an
is not a sounds like held one way held
another way. When Rhuda said his he
actually was attributing it to the house
of he was attributing it to Basil. This
was one of the but the bottom line is
this is a tucked away here in
now before we started this
we led into by quoting Arashi says why
are we talking about this right now it's
a nice story little aad
but what's have to do with anything
that's been going on for the last long
while Rashi says not much but at the
same time there was a discussion about
Shirim and this is an interesting
anecdote related to Shirim. We were
talking about being mish the ma 60 or a
little less than 60 or the mikvah 40 a
little bit less than 40 and uh the bead
is it a little less than three and the
is it a is a little bit less than here
too they were mash the dam was it a re
or was it a little bit less than a re
that's the segue but if you take a look
at the bottom
says a different
says that you want to know why we just
brought
discussion. It's because we mentioned
something very interesting about the
great town of Raud
said
was the
of the family of that says is the reason
we brought this whole discussion. It's
because if you go back to the end of
yesterday's d the gar mentioned
something that had said as a matter of
fact the opening of the garb
and the gar said
the gar mentioned another interesting
fact about who was he was the
so we know that once upon a time when
the sat together and they would speak so
it was done in a very very formal way
somebody would ask a question and then
there was an answer. We spoke about this
in but the bottom line is that there was
a a certain surah a certain say there of
how it happened and
was none other than the great says that
the reason we're mentioning this story
is because we mention
therefore we're going to mention another
thing about
so what this is just an opportunity to
talk about says no it's a little bit
more than that because the reason
is for the same exact reason that was
for one and the same reason and
therefore we feel that we mention
it's because of X. So I'm going to
mention to you now also another thing
that was because of X and that is he's
so what's this X what is it that was
that should become the
is
also the reason that
and that's really
it's a very very well-known it's
actually a more
in a well-known
this This is the
this is the d that talks about what
caused and his son to hide in the first
for 12 years and then for a 13th year
where he was
that all played itself out during that
13-year period. But didn't just decide
one day to spend 13 years in a cave. It
happened because of
and the tells the story in it's a very
short I think it's kad to mention it.
The garra says
actually begins from the angle. Why was
referred to as
says the because once upon a time
and was with them
got up and he said
started praising the Romans. They're
they're a great great nation.
They made uh streets
bridges,
bathous. What an unbelievable um were
living amongst great people.
He heard what said he didn't say
anything
heard what and he did say something.
He quoted.
He says, "No, everything that they did,
they did for themselves.
says
amazingly
went and he told over this story meaning
he didn't go and but he says you know
you want to hear an incredible story I
was once sitting between the three and
this is what happened either way
and the birds like say sometimes carries
things
and ultimately the malas heard about
what happened. They said
who praised us
he should be
that was quiet.
He has to go to Golas. He should go to
Shim Shagina Shim who to the contrary he
spoke in a very derogatory way about us.
He deserves to be killed when he heard
that they want to kill him and he's a
hunted person. went with his son and
they hid and as they say the rest is
history but we need the part of this
what was the
he became the
says that you see was very
and that's why he's
here
we'll throw in a little digression
a digression it'll also relates to it
could be that also. But the bottom line
is says this is really the and that is
oh that was so
that not only did they make him the but
he became the
he became the person that
this says is the and this also a little
bit the rest of the story of the rest of
the story of the great you know it's
interesting we know that rebi
was a talmid of Rome
Gimmel also a very well-known gimar the
garra says that rebi said the reason I
was great is because when ram used to
give shir I used to see him he said but
I only seen saw him from behind and had
I seen him from the front I would have
seen his face I would have been that
much greater rebi is a mogar mayor when
rebi sat down to write the mishnay so we
know stamishna is raor we've mentioned
many times over the years the garis
that the avoid of rebi was to be malacit
all the different versions of the mess
and he had to pick and choose whose
version of it he liked most right whose
was more katar valan and from all the
different that he saw the one that he
was the one from raor and the the chain
between rebi and ram and that connection
is critical and vital in terms of
understanding the homos it's in terms of
understanding the setup of talmud Bavi
in terms of understanding the way the
ter was transmitted. Rebi was also a
town of Riehuda, right? You see, Rab
Yehuda was a big deal. In fact, Raud
literally every there's a dead mud.
He's the po. It's actually interesting,
I think, because when there's audi
and that claw of
just to appreciate is something that's
already in the Mishna. We once spoke out
in from Margolas
said that we know in whatever this is
you always go
right that the
you go based on the second this is the
rule of how it always works right we
always pas in like the toughest is the
way it is and molas in his epic way
figured out that if you go through
Mishnayas the second Tana mentioned in
the Mishna is always the Tana that we're
going to pass like Bisham is always
mentioned before B reb is always
mentioned before Yeshua and Ra is always
mentioned before. We spoke out once that
it could be in the sh between
mentioned before mayor because there
like says in the truth like
we talk like but the bottom line is you
see rebi put into the as much as
much as he's the
mayor is legendary again it's critical
in terms of understanding what we do but
at the same time inudoist
was
and by the way what do you mean the
Romans said that he should be the
Romans weren't determining
they said he's going to get maybe but at
the end of the day if they're asking
that means
you find that is somehow himself he's
telling to
that's in terms of the but
over there. He's auditory.
We now return
from our digression back to the suggest
the background to the Mishna is as we'll
see in the Gumar if a person wants he
could be minad wine as a carbon. So
usually when you think of a carbon you
think of you think of you think of and
right the few carbonas that brought or
if you want to bring a
beginning of par that's something that
you're allowed to do as well stating
that there's an a person if he wants to
be
that's also something that he's allowed
to do. are and ensuing is going to go
through the details of how exactly a
person went about being
if somebody wanted to bead one lo two or
five that's not something he was able to
do
you want three that's okay four that's
also okayish is also okay and once you
hit 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 as high as
you can out you want to be manadiv
that's something that you would be able
to to do as well. So the Mishna says
that if a person wants to be Mishna
doesn't say it explicitly but it's
presupposed however there's rules. So
one no two
no five no three four six and
that also is something they'd be able to
do. What's the difference? So again
we'll see it in the gamar is going to
make a bra but the
is because in the you find three
different as it relates to the amount of
wine that was brought together with
carbon. So when was wine brought
together with carbon with the so there
was wine that was brought the wine
libation the says that depending on what
animal was being brought that determined
how much wine was brought. So if it was
a sheep, if it was a kev, so then what
was brought was a raves. A raves is a
rain. A hinn is made up of 12 lugan.
This is easy math in contrast to a do we
had last week which was hard math but
this is easy math. So it's a quarter of
12 which is three. So it's essentially
three lugan. If the carbon is an says
then it's a
then it's a third of a
h. A hinn again is 12 lan. A third of 12
is four. Ultimately it's going to be
four lugan. And if it's a par, if it's a
benbuk or if you're bringing cattle,
that's a much bigger animal. It requires
more wine. And then it's going to be a
and then it's going to be half of 12,
which is six lugan. Here's the point. In
the you find the number three, four, and
six as relates to lugan. When
the wases that if a person wants to
bring wine, he can't. The idea was you
can bring but you have to conform with
the priest subscribed
of y that the already mentions mentions
of three by the kev three works four by
the aisle that works six by the
bambucker that's going to work as well
now why does more than six work you
don't find anywhere more than six you
find three four and six so you can do
more than six so again we'll see it in
the gimar but rashi speaks to that right
away the reason more than six works is
because if a person's Not of seven you
find seven. Where do you find seven?
Three and four. You have three for the
Kev and you have four for the aisle.
Eight you find eight as well. Two alum
would be eight. Nine I have nine as
well. I have three and six. 10 I have uh
you know do the math. The bottom line is
six and four, right? 11 I have four,
four and three. Either way,
just take this formula and spread it
across your sheet and you'll see for
every single number you'll be able to
come up with a
that was being done in that way. But one
was never brought, two was never
brought, five were never brought. As a
result, one, two, and five are out.
Three, four, and six, and everything
above six is going to work. This is the
Mishna with a little bit of uh spoiler
alert from what we're about to learn in
the Gar says the
by the way is really the backdrop of the
entire Gar is going to say a bunch of
things but there's always a context and
a backdrop. This is the backdrop. It's
this.
So what does that even mean? Kev means
that if somebody is of a certain amount
of
he would have to bring it in one shot
that's what ke means you would have to
bring it in one shot in means that if
somebody is for certain of whatever that
might be so you don't have to bring it
in one shot you can bring a little bit
and then you're going to go and do
another libation ultimately you'll have
to fulfill your but you don't have to do
it in one shot so this was the shim
told me what's the give me a practical
I'll tell you
the person said that I want to bring
five as an adult now the said you can't
put five in one shot right
if you're going to tell me
so even though you can't bring five but
there's an eight right now to do what
you could do is
you could bring four because that's
something that was brought for an aisle
that's something that's okay and as it
relates to The fifth one having that
will be and you'll deal with it whenever
you have to deal with it. Meaning the
five is going to be right now I'll bring
I'll bring four and the fifth one will
be what does it mean it'll be in says
two options and the one option is you
could just put it with all the stuff
that's usually what ends up happening or
you could bear it later with other you
could end up bring it but the point is
you could bring the four even though I
can't bring the five I could still bring
the four
But if you can tell me well that means
when I said five I have to bring five
together. Now I can't bring five
together. So what am I going to have to
do? I'll have to add another one. That's
fine.
But the bottom line is I'll have to
bring a six or more than a six and then
afterwards I'll be able to bring what's
this is the
again where a person was five. You can't
bring five. That's a Mishna. But at the
same time, maybe I could bring four of
the five and deal with the fifth later.
Or no, I can't bring five. I have an
obligation to bring five. So I have no
choice. I have to be six. You can't say
by the way I was to bring five. You
can't bring five. So okay, it's all
cool. I'm good to go. No, for sure the
five is right now. You were but you
can't be mak this way. Okay, so do what
you need to do in order to be able to be
makaya
took the first stab at trying to be the
sh by the way. Fabaya takes the first
stab. Who's going to take the second
right again the sign of
I'll bring you from
and this Mishna is coming up there was
six
that were in the B mikdash that were
meant to have money in it and the
purpose of it was it was
me. What were these six chifers for?
Canadas.
One was from the second one was for
a fourth one was
these six things. Sometimes there was
leftover money, right? There was
mistress. So what they did with the
mistress was they left it in a koopa.
What was the purpose of the koopa? It
ended up being used for the that was
used for kids. very often, not always,
but very often when there's leftover
money, so they would use it to fund
these
that were always being brought so that
the the shouldn't be left idly. But
either way, here's the cash. Then if
you're going to tell me that if somebody
goes and he's minad
five lugan of yan
is you could bring four right now and
you can take the fifth and leave it.
Well if that's the case
so how come there wasn't another
for those misters? You would think it
would have happened. So if it would have
happened there should be a aer for it.
There's aer for the
the
each got their own categories. So what
this is any le and the
you would think if you might need it so
you have it right again this could be an
account that's needed for a rainy day.
But why didn't they have this
that's
soar says I'll tell you why
because used for all the right all the
reason is is because are always being
brought and because were always being
brought so in the event that you found
yourself in a situation where you had a
leftover lug of yin there's always going
to be what to do with it. You don't have
to put it into a fun and wait until like
a rash. There's always going to be a
need for it. 10 minutes they're going to
need a no problem. You have an extra
one, I have two, I need a third
and like this will be able to use it.
Being that it was so often being used,
it's for that reason you didn't need a
fund for it. And that's why even though
there is a mus says a of a but to have a
for it that's really not necessary
I'll bring you right from somewhere else
a so the background of the bra is a says
this is if you remember that's the term
mentions the
whole understood was extra
what Exactly. This is poss remember all
the different that talk about the all
the right that was that para so we dish
in every syllable of that entire par
this seems to be completely superflous
as follows is coming to be something
is not only something that could be
brought when there's an obligation to
bring it but if you want to bring in
that's also okay how much could a person
three How
do you know that if you want to be
teaches me that you want to be you can
go ahead and be you would think if you
want to bring less you could bring less
as well. No says so I learned from here
that if you want more than three you
could bring more than three less that's
not something you'd be able to say let's
understand this price a little bit
better. What does mean
when we say ye has come to be and if you
want to bring more than three you could
bring three you could bring more than
three and what does more than three mean
four or six I need a to tell me not only
three also four and six doesn't make any
sense if I know three I know four and
six why the of three
what's the of three
it's because you find three in the
there's a precedent FOR THREE
there's a precedent for that as
What do you have to say? What does the
mean when it says that from we more than
three? By the way, the word is not
mentioned in this if you notice
doesn't say the word. Where does it say
the word?
It says it in
later. Take a look at uh No, as a matter
of fact, it says it
in the
part. Interesting, right? But the bottom
line is it does say the word year in the
context of the not in this if you're
looking up the P in but the bottom line
is he can't tell me year is coming to
tell me four or six because for the same
price that I know three I know four and
six must be coming to tell me something
I wouldn't know what's that something
that I wouldn't know probably five and
what's the then saying that there's a
being five
must be why because I can't for sure I
can't bring the five ele must be I'm
going to bring four of the five three of
the five but the bottom line is you see
there's a mus of bringing part in the
five which would mean at the very least
a ke if there's no five you just have to
add another one if then at least there's
a a
five which gives it as if I'm being the
five either way says the
was
to the
heard this whole again always gets the
last word in these discussions and said
you can't bring one not two and not five
doesn't it sound like five is the same
as two just like two you can't bring at
all
so two five you also can't bring at all
why can't you bring two at all because
there's no mix of two that you'd be able
to bring so it's going to mash with at
five is the same thing.
I think actually
it's not
no
it's not the same
there's no
there's no way to be
you can at the very least bring four out
of the five says the
if you're going to assume
I mean just said
But that's it's not a
what I'm about to ask now is is not a
shot. However,
I have a shot. My sh is as follows.
In the event that somebody is up until
10, I know exactly what you're supposed
to do. What are you supposed to do? So
we mentioned one loan nothing. Two lugan
nothing. Three lugan that's the four
that's the five
lak right you have to be six lugan
that's the bambakar seven that's four
and three eight that's four and four
nine is six and three 10 is 6 and four
right so up until 10 I know what to do
however 11 I'm not sure what's the
somebody's 11 What what are the to
do? We assume that this person was to
bring two pumm now a power six. So two
par 6 plus 6 is 12.
No. So why do you say 11? His math is
not so good. But the bottom line is I
mean good luck learning last week's
stuff this guy. But the bottom line is
his math is not great. He thought uh how
do you get to you know 6 plus 6 is 11.
So the bottom line is
and if that's the case,
but the bottom line is really which is
really 12. So therefore, he's going to
have to ring a 12. So unless you have
the 12, it's not going to be okay. Or
maybe
this guy's an actuary, not
this person said 11 because it's
right multiplied by this divided by that
the square root of this. So maybe this
person is holding in the and then that's
how he did this. Either the guy push
doesn't know back of the envelope
arithmetic or this person is working
with algorithms. Right? This is the
Shiloh over here. It says the what's now
what's the crux of the question? The
crux of the question is do we assume the
guy knows math? No, that's not the crux
of the question. The crux of the
question actually is something else. The
question is do we say
could be just like a weird way for a
person to bear I'm going to bring the
wine of two and a right.
Is that really what he's Is that like a
normal way of doing it? Maybe not. to
pin is normal to az
way of you know ordering takeout. So
this that's not usually the way people
do it and it could be as a result we
assume that the person probably meant to
parh if he meant to pim so why did he
say 11 because math was never his strong
point in school. SO IT COULD BE THAT'S
the reason as a result what he really
meant TO SAY WAS 12
he said 11 he knows his math he knows
that it's 11 and it's not so crazy to
say the amount of wine they used to
cover and what's the for this
well is gonna come he's going to be
and so many
he's also going to be either way is
going to tell us exactly how we're
supposed to go ahead and be the truth is
there's two things that need to be
understood here. The first thing is
prefaced his question
is
and after learning the what's have to do
with
the sh if a person says 11 did he mean
11 did he mean 12 what's the crux of the
shil did he mean but his math is off or
did he mean two and a math is really
okay is it a normal thing to make an adv
based on two different meaning or no we
assume he meant the same This this
was
that's already now she's not it's not so
clear
has to be it's the sh itself really
makes sense if you hold as well but the
way presented the sh that's only if you
hold why because readaya's words
then you can bring it right now. The
Shil that he had was can I bring the 11
or can I not bring the 11? If you hold
and you can bring the 11 then there's no
sh the only time there's a shil could
you bring the 11 is if you hold ke and
there's a that you didn't mean 11 you
really meant 12 h would be a sh but the
shil of this guy does no math doesn't
know math does he mean the same could he
mean two different meaning that would
make sense if you hold
I think that's pos that's the first the
second is
a shil he's not sure if If when a person
says 11, does he mean 11 or does he mean
12?
The said
includes 11, right? I mean, what's the
holy means different types of animals?
No other way you're gonna make this
work. So it's it's
right. I mean again I didn't do all the
math but at some point you're going to
end up having to be mitar of different
animals think to make this work. So if
that's the case so so what's really
what's really the sha right and by the
way even seven what was seven seven was
made up of a four and a three right so
you'd be mary the kev so you have to say
as follows you have to say that's pit if
if the guy is clear that I want 11
because I want two and a or I'm seven
and the only way you can come if we know
for sure what the person means there's
no shila this is going to work The shil
is with there's a little ambiguity where
maybe his math is off and really he
meant two part it could be it's more
that the person would do two partition
is not a steer the mission is saying it
works it works there's no sh it works
that's enough in a
two of this and one of that there's no
suffic in the world that's something
that's possible the question is where
there's two ways to bear is that like a
way to bear no maybe THAT'S A WAY TO be
but you want to know if it works it's
right that's There's no sh in the world
that would work either way.
So the discussion of this last Mishna
was the idea that a person could be
not only but even what's the it's a
talked away
from that we learn this concept that a
person is able to bead our Mishna now
the last Mishna of the 12th of Messiah
is going to discuss a person that wants
to be menad she oil so oil is also
something that went on the misb when did
oil go on the misb with the almost all
had oil could a person say I want to
bring a carbon
an oil libation is that okay not okay I
just want to bring oil that's what I'm
going to do I'm going to come with a
tablespoon of olive oil
is that something I'm allowed to do or
is that not something I'm allowed to do
said you can bead of you can't bead of
said No is not so
rept.
So it makes a lot of sense
which is also should also be brought
keep
to bring how do you bring the you bring
it by itself you take the wine and you
pour the meaning by any time wine was
brought on the
you took a fleshan and you poured it on
the m that's the way the wine was
brought so there's a mus if you want to
go now and do this potato you do it.
But is that
when the she is being brought as a it's
not being brought it's together with a
and if that's the case maybe it wouldn't
be able to be brought meaning if you had
a way to bring the shea the way you
bring the I hear what you're saying but
your example of being would be bringing
she on itself and the precedent on doing
it is when it's and it's not to because
they're being brought. Either way, this
was the case.
You can't have two people
one. In other words, you can't have two
in a now a little bit from the it sounds
like you could have two in a you just
can't have two and one is but let's say
it's two is yeah and by the way would
make a lot of sense in it be very
logical one which is the minimum share
of you can't have two but maybe if it's
two is so I get my half you get your
half maybe it would work stating that we
know and this is the
So
can bring a carpet even a
one little bird even that could be
brought.
So the Mishna was made up of and the
ratio was could be the
now is going to discuss both halves. But
so the
we had
the affformentioned
said no.
So
I think from the two
we can learn
that if a person wants to be
he could do it and he could do it all
day every day is in fact in
their whether the gear is even supposed
to be there but it's not the point if
you could do it one day you could do it
every day
that a person can bead
We do see this. So Rashi says it's false
because Rashi says it sounds like the is
why not because why? Because you see
it's should be brought up just like
why not because
so you can bring up
is
together with
and so here too you want to bring the
oh but it sounds like if I would bring
the she with the other things then I
could do it meaning it sounds like we're
drawing a parallel that when I'm able to
bring if I'm going to bring it in the
same way then I'd be allowed to do it
the whole book
is because it's not it's not parallel
you're bringing it in a different way
than it was brought but let's say it
would be brought in the same way then it
sounds like it would be it sounds like
he wouldn't have what to say that from
from
I think that if a person wants to bring
that's something you'd be able to do now
look at
it's interesting the would be part of
the equation right was so you would have
the
carbon without A CARBON EVERY SINGLE DAY
THAT WOULD be okay
it's like why is that even I mean yeah
for sure you see it in the why would you
think you can't tell I would have
because there's a whole par it's in the
beginning of I think we all could have
been after learning the right because
the tells you what could be brought as
and if you count this five different
right all the five by the way they'll be
featured prominently in tomorrow's but
again we know what they are
see you would think those five are okay
but maybe you can't bring a six so even
though logically you can come up with a
of ba just like in here you don't have
but at the same time could be when the
terrorist said those five work the
begala those five yeah and others
noamash that that's not the case I then
why the terrorist say five
the five are talking about where a
person just is
but if he says I want to bring
then it's already going to be different
meaning a regular again even those are
not right I mean I mean
right they're not but all I said was I
want to bring a I want to bring a lays
out exactly how you're supposed to do it
doesn't involve wine by the way right
it's brought the way the TA says you're
supposed to bring it but if a person
decides one day I want to bring a which
is done in a certain way you see the
parish of by the way one of the is it
has wine if you want to do that you
could do that but then you have to I
wanted to be like that but again those
Five are not an exclusive group. That's
what was coming to be. The second part
of the
two people can't bring a
and this next
of the per is actually a classic. It's
so classic that we spoke about it in the
introduction to the talk to
my what's the reason that you can't have
a
is it because the says
it sounds like only one person can bring
it.
So then also shouldn't be able to bring
what's the reason you could bring
it says
so you see you could bring afist well
it's the next word in that
it says
so should also be able to be brought so
it can't be
because you have the same exact language
by the
reason must be because it says the way
the mentions The carbon is
and being that we preface it with the
word teaches me
teaches me that you can bring
there's only one carbon that's an
exception to the rule that can't be
brought
that's because it says like the hence
And teaches me that can't be brok
now. You're going to tell me I
understand. You just told me now the
word nephesh teaches me a very important
man. You're asking me now the man.
Literally what do you mean? It says nef
for this reason. No is it could have
said ish. Right. It didn't have to say
the word. You could have told me the
without telling me the word.
So the was not the understands. Whatever
the word's going to be, it has to say
I'm going to tell you why it was when he
said the word was saying the following.
He said
who brings the
brings it. When the brings the
I consider it as if he brought his in
front of me.
Why is it that by the five options right
doesn't have five options? How come
why by the five options I'll explain to
you? There was a king
his friend made audited him. He knew he
was in so he knew how much was he able
to be really he doesn't have so much.
told him,
"Listen, I know you're not going to be
making me steaks and lamb chops, but at
the same time, the carbs that you're
going to prepare for me, the make in
five different ways like this will be
audi
is limited in terms of what he's capable
of bringing upon him
and make a nice board like this will be
able to enjoy the food together. Is also
a little bit the reason is because when
the was brought it wasn't brought as a
sport of five things you got to choose
one of the five a little bit
but on that note
so the peric ended with twoas that we
learn from one word not so tucked away
it's the very very first word of the par
of the
sacrif
it's a interesting choice of words
a b you don't find the word nephesh by
any of the other carbon and the question
is what is the word nephesh coming to
teach me and really the mas we learned
two things from number one
who gave us ages
number Two, the singular form of the
word nephesh teaches me that in contrast
to all carbonas that are brought
that can be brought when it comes to the
carbon the carbon is not a carbon that's
able to be brought
in in
this is
he says
he says that every carbon that was
brought involved a right A be is a
living uh organism
is a living being. It's a
and it makes sense based on the way the
explained the concept of a carbon that
what you're doing is you're saying
that really this
deserves
to give his dam and his
butish gave him a mat called and he gave
him called and instead of him being the
that's going on the it's going to be the
it's going to be the
which is a carbon IT'S A CARBON THAT
WORKS of there's no lessap that the
personal gets from bringing the than
does the who brings his or does the
brings
but it's not
and part and parcel of a says you need
so this is
he says
Unless you know to look for you might
not even find it but it's in
says that I believe the also is
you know WHAT THE IS IT'S THE PERSON
HIMSELF that's the
and that's the to the because every
single carbon needs inside of it the has
the
has the
carbon
that when the man brought his carbon, he
brought his own nephesh with it and his
iss
that I thought was to mention
in
other places a mesh
specifically in the to shab is
which is mentioned at the very very end
of
and it's also in his
to
which is mentioned at the end of it's
very in the other part of this the part
of this that says that can't be brought
and he says
I just want to share one and that is he
said
in the
which we lain
said that at the time of the destruction
of the first mikdash said
I'm not interested anymore in your
I'm not interested in your carbonus
specifically
why is it that picked on the carbon And
why is it that he picked on the says
classic?
He says the reason is because we know
that the was not able to be brought. So
it says and we learn from there stating
that the was able to be brought right
you have that were brought
you right. There were many that were
brought.
If there's a if there's a that says that
the has to be brought in the singular
and it can't be brought
you
the ter is the terret is that when two
come together and we say we're going to
be partners. We're going to bring a
carbon. So then there are two different
that are bringing the carbon. Nephesh
excludes them from being able to bring a
carbon. BUT WHEN THE COMES together and
they bring a carbon,
it's that the
are treated as one unit and they're one
of and because they're one of so it's
for that reason works and this is an
Indian that we've spoken about in the
name of his
where he talks about how is one unit and
a mess because the of is much bigger
than the sum of its parts. There's a
unit called as a matter of fact says
that theol of 3,000 years ago and theol
today is the same of it. There's
different members of that entity, but
the entity itself is a 3,000 plus year
old entity. You want to know when it was
formed, you'd literally have to go back
millennia. And something said that's why
said
talks to I remember when you were we
were in the midbar were in the midbar.
No, this in Indian I remember when you
were in the midbar and says that's the
that even though Thomas but there's
still something called
in the sense of our once did something
amazing maybe that's Thomas but from the
standpoint that once did something and
I'm the so looks at and sees a
son and sees A
because the entity didn't change the
entity didn't change so of but the point
is there's one unit one called
says that it's true can't bring a carbon
that's because it's not nephesh but the
there's one called nephesh there's one
that's in the singular and the is able
to bring a carbon
he said that when
the
so then there was
of nephesh of they were one unit and
they were able to bring
he said but when were androl
were not getting along and were not for
whatever reason when is not they lose
that status of being a nephesh and if
they lose that status of being an effesh
they're no longer that singular of
clustrol
says that noi a few earlier in
the compared as the
what does it mean? So we know what the a
of stone was the
was
it was all they didn't get along with
each other they didn't forget each other
that was the of and if the noi says that
means there was and at the time of the
destruction of the first mikdash and
just to be clear even though we know the
second was the one that was destroyed
because but there was a tremendous
period at the time of as well
we know that the whole malus was divided
into two groups. You had muso and then
you had the mus of etc etc. There was an
incredible pir within. And that's what
the meant when he said
when is the pirut they're not a nephesh
and if they're not a nephesh they can't
bring a garb
CUZ NOW THE BRINGING IS I KNOW YOU ALL
CONTRIBUTED. I know you all chipped in.
I know you all gave a it's very nice.
Yeah, you have 600,000 Jews that are
being but you're not aesh and there's a
carbon
it's a carbon it's not a carbon and not
a carbon because it's not a carbon se
therefore it's not going to work says
that's why the says
why did
he said because we know the says that
the kyus was made up of all the salmon
and one of the salmonicus was the and
the ra smells very bad And the says,
"How could you bring the
and the terret is because as much as the
tastes bad, but when you take the and
you mix it together with all the to the
contrary, it actually enhances the smell
better with the without that says true
if there's an so there's an so now the
is part of
it at all. But what happens when there's
A PERIOD NOW THE IS STANDING by itself
THEN THE
YOU KNOW WHY IT'S BECAUSE OF THE BUT YOU
MEAN THE IS SUPPOSED TO MERGE THE MERGES
WHEN we merge but when we're then as
well and that's
it's
why we're picking that's why we're
chapping with the that's why we're
chapping with
this was all at the time of
he said that there's going to be a day
when is going to do and there's going to
be a day where once again is going to
bring back the mash is going to come and
then it's going to be
he says when is going to do and when the
is going to bring back the mikdash then
again the is going to be then again the
is going to be sweet says
You don't see that lion every day. Why
says that there's two that you find to
describe something that's sweet
and
what's the difference? Is something
that's sweet. Something you taste it's
sweet. Sugar is sweet. It's something
that's sweet. Is
it's something that's sweet, but it's
only sweet because of the taras. because
of the because of the that's why it's
sweet. each individual thing. No, no,
maybe you can do better. But when it's
when it's where you see the sweetness,
the carbon once again will be great
again. When it's going to be great again
when we're going to be when we're going
to be then the carbon is not going to be
a carbon. Then the carbon is going to be
A CARBON. THEN WE'LL be able to
because even though we're
at the same time it's gonna be like one
by the way I have to mention this one of
the says
how can you call it
70 is called when
it's the punch line it's
but the bottom line is
that right now we've appeared and when
we've appeared looks at us and says
this is not a you got together come on
are you are you do you respect each
other are you being
if not then it's a
you're bringing school he can't say it
out of your mouth but this is what said
but when comes together and we're able
to look away from our differences. Then
we become and you know what happens
then? It's
because contrary to what we might think
that each person is like
really the real of the year comes when
we come to
then even the even the even the has to
offer when is going to be when is going
to be then our will be
and will be to go back to the days of
Four.