Meaningful Interviews 4 - Eliezer-Lee Slavutin - Power of Tanya - 3-22-22

so welcome everyone to meaningful interviews i'm here today with a very good friend of mine dr lee eliezer originally from australia eliezer and i know each other for i think 20 years or close to that many many years and there's a lot to say but time is short it doesn't allow us to to speak uh all details but um i met lyezer in an interesting way he had a bro he has a brother-in-law who are you from california david schwartz and um i asked david uh i was moving to l.a to to new york from l.a and he told me about his brother-in-law lisa putin and um i called i called uh lee and i asked if um you know if he uh wants to i think go to the rebbe's oh and uh for a blessing and he said yeah i have no idea who he is no idea how he looked who he was nothing i remember he took the f train from manhattan where he lived to to borrow park where i live got into my car and we went to the ohio and middle of the ride it happened to be tisch above and i was treading uh carefully and we're talking and i mentioned trillin that villain and i'm driving on the belt parkway and he says to me oh yeah today uh we don't put on two in the morning i said how do you know that that was the last thing i would have thought that lisa wooten who i don't know who he is and he's just david schwartz's brother-in-law and david wasn't uh particularly very religious tells me that so he says oh i read it in the back of the art scroll sitter and today but i'm turning the afternoon i said that's interesting yeah you're right anyway the next thing is we go into the oil and i stand kind of far and lee positioned himself i believe it was next to the tomb the stone of the previous river because he's on the right and the rebels on the left i think that's my recollection anyway and i noticed the way he's saying to him that saying kill him and it was it really i was again very surprised he's saying kill him so seriously it really was was a very very uh interesting on the way back on his way out of the car i asked him the question which he's told me about years later that one question in a way changed his life would you like to learn some torah and the answer was let me think about it and as my great uncle ramon futterfast would say the americans when they say uh let me think about it it means um excuse me expression go to hell you know it's not your business you know bug off okay two weeks went by i get a call lee is on the phone rabbi you remember you asked me a question uh which would i'd like to learn with you uh i actually would and we started to learn once a week for 10 years i would go an hour to manhattan an hour we learned he's a was a businessman in in in manhattan you know there's no time for you got to learn you got to go on an hour travel and now we're learning and an hour back and it was this was the high point of of my life i could tell you for 10 years really and i'm sure it was of yours we went slow and we finished all 53 chapters of tanya not all questions were resolved there's a lot to say about that but time is short but we developed a very strong connection and i uh didn't pressure him am i right i did not pressure here right in fact i remember that that one time when when you told me some of your friends at the reformed temple said what are you doing learning with khabad rabbi all he wants you to put on a beard put on chilling keep sharpest keep kosher like how do you out of your mind and you told them you told me that you said if he if he would have done that i would have stopped learning but he never did that and uh and then i asked them once to to go to sro to come to israel with me and that was a life-changing experience we met the option of a rebbe and then it was transformed the whole the whole uh time the trip there to stroll and then he told and then on another trip that he went himself he told me already that someone at the hotel put on a yarmulke and he said i said and said that don't not smiling for a serious face don't you ever take kettles and that garbage that you see on the screen here never gave off since that day as far as i what ellie hasn't told me and i believe it and with his long beard you don't see his own his entire beard he looks like the altered hustle so why am i saying this i'm not saying this to make him feel good or make myself feel good this is for the viewers i'm saying this because we learned tanya and we learned it slowly methodically carefully we didn't rush we die a lot we agree we disagree we laughed we cried it went into the bones and i know that because he's teaching tanya to others for years and from time to time he sends me an email or a call he tells me you can't imagine how this chapter and tanya made it's unbelievable and it made this change it's the the the the that the tanya is is real not just in the spiritual world but in the daily world and that's really what i wanted to focus on but before that and i'm finished with this uh please just give us a little brief background where you came from a little about your parents melbourne your background your college days just just bring us up to to uh coming to to new york and we'll go from there thank you um it's very exciting to be with you rabbi dolphin because uh you know sometimes people ask me they have an expression i think i i know what's the expression used by everybody expression is who plugged you in who plugged you in and you're the one who plugged me in because it was really that connection to the power of tanya that made a huge difference to answer your question i grew up in melbourne australia melbourne has a very nice jewish community i mean i think it's about today maybe 50 sixty thousand have always been a very tight-knit jewish community and um i was very fortunate i went to a school in melbourne called mouth skypers college which is a jewish school kind of like rama's it's modern orthodox type of a school boys and girls together and i learned there uh the basic things like i i could read hebrew i could write hebrew i learned huma we didn't learn gemara but i i could i got some basic good jewish education so that never left me so when it came time later in life to learn it was actually much easier to get into it because of that training so after i went to mount scopus i then went to medical school in melbourne australia i finished medical school and i came to new york really the intention was to do some postgraduate medical training at the hospital in new york lenoxel and then to go back to australia after two years that was my plan but you know you have a plan it's not always what's going to happen right right you've been struck and got locked so uh so i had a plan but then i met my wife in new york actually at a ski resort i got married and we stayed in new york and then a little bit down the road i i said this is not the career i want to pursue for the rest of my life and to the great surprise of many people you know being a doctor is like you know the highest thing you could be right as a jewish professional as a doctor so i said no it's not for me so i left medicine and then about almost 40 years ago actually i went into the insurance business and so that's what i've been doing ever since thank god it worked out very well um what about your parents were from russia my mother's family is from lodge poland my mother's grandfather yes my great grandfather my mother's grandfather was actually an alexander hassett i have a picture of him i have a picture of him you have to say you have to send that to me i'd like to see it ah okay okay um he was he was shot by the nazis in on the street just shot finished my my father's family is from russia my father's father was from uh gomel in belarus my father's mother was from ukraine where all the problems occurring she actually is uh near the black sea she was born in molitopol which is very close to the black sea but they both both of my father's parents left russia at the time of the pogroms in 1905 they went to china and they lived in harbin there was a jewish community in harabin in northern china which is where they met they got married and they had their family my father was born in china right now your family name is uh you you believe that it's because you guys came from slavutta from slavita i don't i don't know i i mean i i i would love to think that's true because slovenia is such a wonderful name in tanya uh but uh all i know is my father's father is from hommel and whether before that there was a connection to ukraine i don't know no and uh any uh do you have any idea if they were hasidic uh your father's relatives my father my father's children i think for a second my my grandmother my father's mother's family were i think very uh religious my father told me about his uh uh uncle a grandfather who was very strict in it if a piece of silver touched something he would go outside and bury it in the ground so there was that side was i think very uh religious my mother's family in poland i i don't know how religious they were they're very traditional jewish family but i'm not sure how strictly religious or not they were right okay so now you're growing up in melbourne now i i know some of your friends um they were on the orthodox side you weren't um what were your feelings growing up how did you look at that uh did you did you have any anger on any jewish issues um you want to just for a moment talk about that yeah it's um i mean i grew up as i said i went to mount scopus and uh mount scopus is a jewish school we basically 50 of the time is jewish studies and 50 secular and i wasn't very interested in the jewish studies i really wasn't i was much more interested in mathematics and science and in the final year of high school i did very well on the science and i failed hebrew and the principal of the school mr feiglin you know the faglin family very famous family mr feiglin took upon himself because we got a report card at the end of the first term in senior year high school he writes on my report guide which my father has to see because he has to sign it yeah mr feiglin writes my hebrew result which i failed this is an utter disgrace my father has to see it and sign it so i was in trouble um so i had to i had to pass hebrew and thank god i actually had a a wonderful hebrew teacher dr rhonda blessed memory who was a survivor of the camps and you could see on his arm you saw the number from the camps and he really helped me and i thanks to his help i ended up by past hebrew but i was not a great hebrew student uh-huh um did when you became a you know older teenager um did you ask yourself any questions about god uh you know things like that philosophical issues not really my mother and i'm very grateful my mother raised me and she i always remember she would say to me as a young boy you have to know two things in life one is honesty is the best policy number two always have faith in god she taught me from i don't know where why but she said that again again again so i grew up with faith in god that was never a problem or issue to have faith in god um i wasn't observant you know religiously observant uh but i always had faith in god and you're asking me to have questions yes i had i had questions there's a lot of teenage kids what am i doing here what's what what am i suppose what's what is what is life about you know philosophical issues and this is one of the reasons today i love tanya so much because it answers these questions these fundamental questions that altered is addressing every day absolutely absolutely okay so um you go into insurance you get married you come um you joined i believe a reformed temple right i forgot the name now um and take it from there what what happened oh this was a big blessing for me what happened it's something i think it's something we everybody who's not yet observant who has some kind of inkling should pray for what the gift i got from god um i was in the reformed temple i was a i was what you would call a high holiday jew i went with my wife rosh hashanah yom kippur that was it that what three days a year that was it so i'm there on yom kippur 1994 i'll never forget it and it's between mustaf and minaka the break people go outside for some fresh air i wanted to stay inside the synagogue i was by myself i don't know what prompted me i sat there i said this i said to myself aloud this feels good i from that moment it's as if the gates of heaven opened up i i'm telling you one thing after another so what happened that was you know let's say september october the jewish holidays about a month later i go to australia to visit my parents because my mother's having surgery my friend george hallas who you know gives me a book he says lee you're going home now back to new york you have a long flight read this book the book was called encounters by rabbi arie kaplan and the phenomenal teacher and somewhere along the way in his writings he says look if you're a jewish man you should do one thing put on to fill in say the shema it'll take 10 minutes that's all it takes so i started i that 1994 that was the year i went i was gonna bite to fill him now here that's the first thing george gives me the book then i say to my wife i'm gonna bite to philly she has a client we're in business together her client is a syrian jew orthodox he hears i'm buying divorces no no no you're not going to bite the film from a judaica store i'm going to get you kosher to fill him right memory incredible man now he gets he starts to get involved with me and he he he is i'm putting on to fill him so about two months later he says to my wife what's your husband doing he's saying the shema he says i want you to give a message to your husband tell him he has to say the amidah one thing like this but i'm telling you rabbi delphin one after the other you mentioned in jerusalem with the yamaka here's what happened i'm in jerusalem this was around the time that you and i went maybe it was after another trip i went i'm standing on the street but here's the story with the yarmulke i'm standing on the street outside a silver storm i just bought some gifts from my wife and friends and at that time i was not wearing a yarmulker outside the house i wore it inside the house but i was too embarrassed to wear it outside but in jerusalem everyone's wearing a yama guy no problem so i'm wearing my yamaka in jerusalem a stranger comes up to me puts his arm around my shoulder i think oh yeah he wants money he says khadash what what do you mean khadas he said your yamaka looks so new you should wear it more often i said that's it this is a message from the almighty god i'm no no question and from that as you said from that day i never took it off so this happened again again and again it's like i'm telling you god said you're ready i'm going to give you what you need and i said at the beginning of this conversation if anybody has this kind of an inkling they want to start to get more involved ask god to help you he will help you [Music] very well said now when did the beard come and could you tell me a little bit about the beard oh wow that was one of the biggest challenges to be it um as you could understand so the beard came um i was reading a book uh think jewish by rabbi zalman poser of blessed memory and i loved the book and i looked at the inside cut the flap on the back of the with a picture of rabbi posner and he has a very kind face i looked at that picture i said to myself this is a very kind face i want to meet this man i looked up i called nashville tennessee where he lives operator do you have a listing for a rabbi zalman posner i get on the phone rabbi posner we never met i'm reading your book i'd love to meet you he said you want to come to nashville tennessee to meet me what for i said i would just like to meet you your book is really great so i go to nashville for two days and at that time somewhere in my mind because i really now this was already like um 10 years into the process of being observant going on that pathway my father had passed away just that year i was starting to say kurdish for my father and i was thinking somewhere about a beard but i never grew a beard and rabbi posner every day we'd go to shore and in the afternoon he would tell me stories about the frida kahrabi and he said he was sent by the friday kahreby with another rabbi rabbi baum gut they went to the dp camps in europe and rabbi poster described what happened he said we were two young men rabbis wearing a hat with a beard and a jacket and we approached the jewish people in the camp the dp camp this is after the war 1947 48 they looked at us and they said whoa there are religious jews in america there are religious jews in america they were so excited they said that's it i'm growing a beard because he made a point that he was there as a young man with a beard i said from that moment i'm going to grow a beard this was in september just after tisha b'av august and i came home and it was the labor day weekend and everyone's not shaving no big deal right you're not shaving you're on vacation monday comes my wife says okay you have to shave now i'm not so i'm telling you rabbi dolphin as you can imagine it's like world war three yeah it's a big situation because many women have a problem when their husband says i want to grow a beard for whatever reason right and i just said to myself i've got to find a way to do this i've got to find a way to do this and i i had a very important message which you know about this i met rabbi stein saltz yeah we met him we met him together we met him in yerushalayim then later on a friend of mine uh sponsored a trip where rabbi stein saltz came to speak in america and my friend very kind arranged for me to have a private meeting with rabbi steinsaults i had no idea how great this man was i mean you know he's a very humble man and i sit down with him i tell him about my challenge with the beard and he said did you ever read a book by franz kafka called metamorphosis i heard about it i mean steinsaltz knew everything i mean talmud philosophy science he knew everything he said in this book a man goes to sleep at night with his in his with his wife he wakes up in the morning and he wakes up as a cockroach this is what it's like for your wife it's shocking it's very difficult and for the first time i understood how difficult it was for her i mean i'm all excited you know when you when you get onto this pathway of going back to yiddish you're like fired up you don't have a clue what's going on outside and i realize it's not easy for my wife so i hate to just somehow try to be as kind as possible but not not give in i had this i wanted to grow the beat i felt it was very important i even read the torah portion where they took you can't shave the corners i said this is what god wants me to do i've got to do it why do you think she accepted it um i think that um one of the key ingredients is when a husband whatever starts to get on the pathway and the wife is not necessarily on the same pathway or the same pace you've er and several people told me you've just got to go as slowly as you can so on the beat i couldn't slow it down i didn't slow it down but on the other things like you know i wanted to have a kosher home but i did not force her what she can or cannot eat outside the house i can't i knew i could not force that upon her and it turns out i just let her be herself not try to tell her what to do and then as time goes on she was the one who arranged to put in a dairy sink in our kitchen beautiful so you have to give the person space would you would you would you also say that she respected and respects you because of your integrity and honesty that that she saw that you're genuine in your desire to have oh yeah she said that to me many times since then um after after we finally came to terms and we could accept what was going on and that she does accept and admire and she often says that my faith in god is a source of great comfort to her and to our kids yes yes okay um you also uh met a few other uh interesting people um since we met uh my just briefly who were they that you met you know um one another person i wanted to meet for many years and i was very fortunate was rabbi shaheed right rabbi emmanuel yes yes and he uh when i met him he was already not doing so well health-wise he was quite ill but i was very fortunate i went i was in toronto on a business trip and you actually helped me because you called his house yes before i came there and i had a chance to meet him i always admired him so much because he was such a wonderful writer and such a scholar and i remember coming to him and i had a few questions and one of my questions was um you know i i was anxious for my children to get more observant and i i had to realize you know you can't force it and he said i said to him you know i would love my daughter to be more observant and he looked at me and he said the most important thing you can do with your children is you can give them unconditional love this is the most important thing everything else is secondary and that that really went right in it's a very powerful message and uh i also believe you met was it been cn raiders some uh someone in in england yeah yeah yeah we had um we had chavous uh maybe 10 12 years ago we were my wife and i were in london and uh we stayed with ben ceon raider's daughter uh they have a house at that time i don't know where they are living now but that i think it was in goldman's green and we stayed with them for chevous bencion raider was also was a businessman and uh he uh he knew the uh the lubavitch rebbe very well one thing he actually shared with me which i remember and god willing i'mma put into practice he said he was writing a book called challenge and the rebbe said to him it's very important when you're writing this book to have a lot of pictures and photos and so god willing i i plan to write a book relating to these experiences and i'm i'm my goal is to make sure i have a lot of photos and pictures in the book but ben zion raider was a very special person and he gave me a dollar that he got from the rebbe which i still have today yo didn't you tell me that it was here i think i told you about making aliyaka's at certain point i remember you you had a thought of making aliyah many and and he said to you that uh the rebels said no was that him or i'm mistaken i don't remember if we had that discussion um i don't remember about the i mean i uh no i don't remember if we have ever had that discussion um okay so so let's talk for a moment about um the igaris akadesh the fourth section of tanya the 11th letter numerous times you've asked me about this we learned it together um could you share with our audience your feelings about about this um this is uh actually when i when i learned this i always remember because this there's a there's many stories about particularly mental foot of fuss right metal foot of us mental foot of us i i never had the privilege to meet in person but uh he's uh if you look at him if you see pictures of him you you can see what kind of a man he is uh actually we had the the uh special privilege to meet his son uh beryl for the fuss at his home right now yeah foot of us was had terrible hardships in russia he was in prison i don't think he was in siberia but he was really beaten up by the russians and he said if it wasn't for this letter of the altar rebuild hillary he wouldn't have made it through those experiences and la silabina the alta rebbe is teaching us that no matter what happens in life we have to see that there's something good inside it and actually it goes back it also goes back to a very it's very there's nothing by accident when i went on that trip to israel with you that first trip we did in 2003 i don't know if you remember this you picked me up at the airport we got into a taxi we were driving from the airport to go to the family in spot for the first shabbos yeah rose and dr rosen yeah yeah on the way you had prepared a whole stack of sheets of different gemara this that and either the second or third sheet we learnt is page 21 of tarnitz and to this day he is one of the most favorite of all the people in the whole the atonement is nothing so who no matter what would happen the story is amazing but the message is no matter what happens he always said gam zulutova and they're times in my life you know we all have challenges whether it's uh business or family and i say to myself thanks to those lessons and thanks to this letter in the gyaradak i say there's got to be something good in this and the other thing that we learn in tanya is god is with us all the time god is not in heaven god is everywhere everywhere and the alta rebbe has a whole book on that subject the second book of tanya entirely devoted to god is everywhere so by the time you finish that book you start to realize god is not just in one place it's impossible so if god is everywhere god is with me right now he's giving me this experience for a reason has to be a good reason yeah i i think you met uh gil gill locks right oh yeah yes yes the hgb remember he his whole uh he wrote a book there is one when he saw me at the culture i was walking with you and he saw me as dalvin thousand yeah because he was referring back to a tanya's year that i gave in los angeles in 82 and he was there with 30 people there and i'm teaching i'm a single guy a buckler and i got a crowd and i said that the the nephilim is being sold out to rebecca's chapter two the second nothing the nephesh of a jew is killing him i was a part of god he jumps up and he says there are no parts [Laughter] and everyone's looking there are no parts so when he when he when he saw me with you at the castle you know he said yes your god now tell tell us a little bit about what are your feelings you never you never met the rabbit that's from heaven but yet i think i feel like it's like you did meet the rabbit could you talk a little bit about that the uh it's i think it's very important to say this because some people have a misunderstanding you know because we uh i i do have a very close relationship with the rebbe the rebbe is very much a part of my life very very much a part of my life and people have a misunderstanding uh some people outside khabad can be critical of but actually this is a fundamental teaching of the zohar that the etsodic exotic a righteous person is more present in the world this is a this is not this is zohar right and i'm not and this is word for word this is mamish what it says it says that sonic has a presence in the world more than when he was physically here more correct so the rebbe is with us it's not something that made up it's going back to fundamental kabbalah so the rebbe is with us the rebbe is very important to me because it's you know we believe in god but we can't see god so sometimes we have challenges with our faith and our trust in god but the rebbe i can see and the rebbe for over 40 years was the leader of the jewish world and it says in one of the books it says the light was shining on him people were looking for him to make a mistake he never made a mistake he never went off the path he was always a hundred percent devoted to the jewish people he was like the moshe rabino and i look at the rebbe i watch the videos i listen to what he says there are times rabbi dolphin i go to the ahel to visit the rebbe's grave and i actually i pray i say before i go you know there's a room you go into in the building before you go to the kevin where there's a tv and the rebbe is on video and i pray god i want a message from the rebbe when i walk into the room and on my 70th birthday i prayed and the rebbe is talking about how the carob tree only gives fruit after 70 years wow the rebbe is part of my life and i i look at the rebbe and i learn from him i study his teachings because he is a hundred percent righteous pure holy he is our connection to god he is what allows us to get close to god as a physical human being and you know there's i don't know yeah there's a story someone one day it was in the show when the rebbe was here with us physically and watching the every move of the rebbe and he turns around says i'm flesh and blood don't look at me like that i'm flesh and blood yeah right but he's holy flesh and blood absolutely very important connection is to have that connection with the rebbe how um how do you see the whole covet uh experience in god's plan um it i'll never forget uh maybe two or three weeks into covert i watched a video of manus friedman and he said something very profound which really opened my eyes he said people before covert every night going out for dinner going to the theater going to a baseball game can't do any of it now can't do any of those things what are you left with you're at home with your family so it's it's stripped away god actually stripped all the mesh stripped it stripped it stripped it away all you have now is your family your home you pray to god you learn you can do business from home you can do it remotely but all the other stuff is gone all distractions removed it was a bless that was a blessing covert was a terrible thing people died but that aspect of covert was a blessing yes what do you see as uh the future the future for the jewish people have you ever thought about this question the um we're learning it in tanya now chapter what are we doing here what is the purpose of our life here so that's why i love tanya because it addresses these fundamental questions so i don't look upon that question as a global question i look upon it as a personal question what am i supposed to do each day of my life to make my part of the world a bit lighter the the rebbe the lavatory said something very beautiful he said if in your corner of the world you see a little bit of darkness that's great you have a chance to make light to turn that you know if someone is saying something to another person they're being cruel whatever you have a chance to do something in a positive way then the the obama trophy said something also very important he said if you see the whole world as dark you need to work on yourself right so we have a job we have a job the previous rebbe called us lamplighters our job is to light a lamp to bring light in every moment whether we're in business whether we're at home whether in the synagogue every place we are there's always a chance to bring more light somehow tell me a little about your teaching i know you teach doroth and you've taught tanya at i think either the karl boxall or or just a little bit about your teaching in the last 10 years or so there's an organization called the right in in new york city which is uh a not not-for-profit organization dedicated to actually help elderly people mostly focused on elderly people who are homebound you know bringing them a a gift on purim or bringing the maths or whatever but they also have this wonderful program called university without walls which is excuse me getting on a phone a conference call and they hook me up with say 10 or 12 people and i give a class so today i gave a class at one o'clock on living with the torah named after the phrase that the elder ruby said you have to live with the torah so to take a torah portion so i i spoke about vayikra and about what does value crop mean calling out god connecting to us and there are maybe eight or ten mostly elderly people um and and god willing they're going to get a message from the torah that will will inspire them will elevate them will change the way that they see that day and um you also taught tanya didn't you uh i actually on to today was the torah on thursday i have a class called uh applied jewish mysticism so i teach from the tanya also sometimes from the zohar sometimes from a mystical teaching the torah portion about a lot of tanya yeah oh to the same dorot group the same as not necessarily the same people but the rot yes right but also didn't you tell me once you were doing that yes i i was um before covert right um i think we used to do it uh either after the kiddish or before or after minha i would do in the show the carboxyl i would do a class on tanya and i went through basically from chapter one summarizing key points of each chapter and teaching tanya right i also know that uh you have a very nice strong relationship with rabbi baumgarten in the um in the eyes uh what's the first name again label label label background of course um and you've enjoyed that relationship both you and your wife have gone there many many times correctly yeah yeah yeah yeah we then we go to the we're going to actually be in east hampton for pesach so we'll be with the baumgarten family for the first nights in the last nights of pesach it's a wonderful community beautiful community so really it's such a great testimony to what the rebbe is doing for the whole world because wherever i go i mean i've been to italy to venice i don't know if you've ever been to gum gum that restaurant in venice you go there in venice italy of all places in the world right you go to venice and there's a restaurant there called gum gum on shabbos it's open to anyone you can come in and have a meal there you can dove in there one of the greatest experience i had was in florida i was going to florida with my wife for a a wedding in the family it was in coral springs or somewhere like that and the nearest i i wanted to observe shabbos so the nearest khabar was about a mile away so i walked to khabar on friday night i go to the rabbi's house rabbi is probably 26. his wife is about the same i knock on the door they're holding a little baby in their arms and they have me there i mean i don't know if they had five dollars to their name rabbi dolphin i don't know what they had but they welcomed me to their home i had a shabbos meal with them this is what the rebbe has created all over the world yes yes any uh final words you'd like to leave uh with our listeners and viewers i'll leave um a message from the tanya uh to hopefully inspire people to start learning tanya beautiful the very first chapter of tanya you know you read a book a book normally has an introduction and no this and is that a preamble not the alta rebbe the aldo rebbe starts chapter one first verse he says we learnt at the end of chapter three in the talmud of nida that when a baby is born from the talmud when a baby is born an oath is administered to the baby before it leaves the mother's womb this blew my mind the first time i saw it because now the altar rebbe is addressing the whole idea of a child being given a mission and a purpose by god from day one they can't even leave the womb now you might say what are you talking about how can that how can a baby get an oath it's not through languages we see it but god can communicate to a soul we don't know exactly how but there's a way that soul is born into the world already on a pathway on a mission that's how the tanya begins yes yes unbelievable unbelievable yes sir claire thank you very much really appreciate it um may hashem help that you your wife your children and your mother should be well everyone should be well gazumped and panosa and only and we should see mashiach we didn't really speak about mashiach but everything he said is about mashiach because uh we believe believe that bashir is around the corner and we need to just uh do a little more to to see him and be all together have a great day the culture of freyja thank you same to you thank you