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Max Mannis of Jomboy Media Joins Nachum for a Great Discussion about The NY Yankees on JM in the AM
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Nachum Segal welcomed Yankee enthusiast/podcaster Max Mannis of Jomboy Media to this morning's JM in the AM to discuss his career at Jomboy Media, his passion for the New York Yankees, and balancing his Jewish identity with his career in sports journalism.
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So, the old Mahal Seagull, any excuse I
could find to discuss the New York
Yankees on the air. And thank God Max
Mannis is around. Max Mannis is a uh an
Orthodox Jewish young man who works for
John Boy. Those of you who are familiar,
it's one of the outlets that's always
talking about the New York Yankees. He's
been there for parts of the last six
seasons.
He was born and raised in New York City.
A Hessel graduate. Got hired Mid Shana
Olive at YTVA.
Isn't that funny? We were just uh
speaking yesterday to Rabbi Scythe and
Reboshua from YTVA. They must be proud
that Max is an alum.
He always wanted to work in baseball and
now of course he has the opportunity to
do it. He also says he tries to use it
to promote Yiddishite and Amusel which
of course we love featuring people who
do that. Max Mannis, a pleasure to
welcome you to JM in the AM.
>> Yeah, thank you. And I was going to say
it's an honor to have followed up like
Gdolan like that yesterday. I was
laughing when I saw I said that in the
YTVA WhatsApp chat. So listen, like you
said, any excuse I have to yap about the
Yankees. It's, you know, I'm it's kind
of my day job, but I like to do it in my
free time. Anyway,
>> I mean I mean did you did you ask Aaron
Judge for a contribution for the YTVA
campaign or not? I need to know. I mean,
come on. You know,
>> it didn't listen it didn't come up this
time, but we'll have to, you know, keep
it moving. Maybe a year or two down the
line.
>> I mean, the guy makes a few dollars. All
right, Max, let's get right into it. Why
are the Yankees not telling us when
Jason Dominguez is coming back?
>> Um, I mean, probably because he's got to
like actually get all the MRIs and all
that stuff first. But yeah, that was a
bummer yesterday. I think uh he's been
dealt quite a few quite a few tough
hands in his career as it pertains to
injuries and kind of his development.
There's some stuff that I think you
could pin on the Yankees. I think a lot
of it is kind of dumb luck, but yeah,
thanks for him. is kind of about to get
like uh at least probably a few weeks if
not like a month, however long Stanton
is out. I think they were kind of just
going to give him the runway of like,
hey, you're the you're the DH every day
against righties. So to see that
yesterday really sucked. But you know
what, it's it's overall it's been a
solid season before. So far be it for me
to to harp on the on the complaints.
>> No, I got that. But I I do agree with
you. They've completely mishandled him.
But I guess that's for a conversation
for another day. So you have no clue if
he's available tomorrow or if he's out
for a month. You have no idea. I I know
as much as you do. You know, I think
we'll probably get a report later today
because they said it was in Texas. He
wasn't able to get the MRI and all that
yet, but I don't know. He was in pretty
significant pain yesterday.
>> It was get it was getaway day. They had
to make sure he got to a New York
hospital. Ah, the little intricacies of
what you need to know to follow the
Yankees and report on them accurately.
Pretty amazing. So, I mean, look, it's
uh I don't want to say it's every kid's
dream, but I could certainly speak for
those who uh dreamt about it years ago.
uh to work in sports and to work, you
know, uh in a job that does have you
talking about the Yankees all day long
and at the same time being able to
maintain one's Orthodox Judaism and
Jewish pride and everything else. I
mean, I I I mean, look, baseball's a 7
day a week at this point, 24-hour a day
industry. Uh h has being a Shmer Shabas
been uh you know, really detrimental as
your career continues to advance?
Um, listen, I mean, like, I'm not going
to sit here and say it's sunshine and
rainbows every day. Like, there's
definitely conflict. There's definitely
times where you have to be willing to
kind of, you know, balance a lot of
things that, you know, maybe a lot of
other people in the sports industry,
it's a little bit like like, you know,
it sounds like you're speaking in
Chinese hieroglyphics or whatever to
them when they say like you got to
think, you don't go on your phone on,
you know, for two games Friday night and
Saturday day out of the week. Um, but
yeah, I mean, listen, I've always said
at the end of the day, like it's who I
am. These are two things that were very
important to me. I mean, there were
times definitely when I was younger
where a lot of people in the Jewish
world kind of thought it was a little
bit insane for somebody like me to be
wanting to follow this type of path. And
then now there are times where people
who have followed this type of path
probably think it's a little bit insane
for me to be doing the whole kooky
religious thing. But at the end of the
day, it's you know, it's who I am. And
those are two things that really really
matter to me. So, you know, you kind of
you do what you got to do. And I one
thing that I always say is that I think
um there's a lot of people I mean like
certainly Jewish people in the industry
don't get me wrong that respect and that
you know it kind of earns some brownie
points with them and they look at that
even if they're you know whatever degree
of religious and they tip the cap a
little bit. Um but I also say that I
think there are other people who really
know very little or kind of don't care
you know whatsoever about anything like
that. But I think for them to just see,
oh, this is a person who's kind of not
just taking the unconventional route,
but is willing to stand up for what he
believes and willing to be firm in his
belief, willing to, you know, kind of
take the the unbeaten path a little bit.
I think a lot of people kind of look at
that and they say like, you know, hey, I
think, you know, it it earns a little
bit more respect than
if you know anything about this show, we
really tip our cap to you, frankly. I
mean, I think it's amazing. Do you do
you have colleagues? Are there any is
there an Orthodox Jew following the
Diamondbacks every day? I like that. Do
you have people are there people in the
league who who have your background?
You're the lone guy.
>> Yeah, there was one other Well, there
was one other guy who was working at
Johnboy for a few years, unfortunately,
left a few months ago to kind of go
start a new exciting new endeavor. So, I
missed I definitely missed having him
around. He was very much a favorite
around the office. Jeremy Shner, shout
out if he's listening. Um, but yeah, as
far as within the industry, there is
there's a couple other people. There's a
guy named Zack Rab I know who's awesome
who works for MLDD doing stuff on the
minor league side. I know a guy named
Noah Burgerer who does some stuff used
to do a lot of stuff covering the
Marlins and various other parts of
baseball. So listen, you know, all the
all the people in baseball. It's, you
know, it's not the biggest pool. So we
tend to we tend to stick together, but
yeah, not the not the most plentiful,
but that's that's what makes it all the
more cool.
>> And I know that you weren't around in
the 70s and 80s. I get that. But I
wonder if from your vantage point if you
think back then there would still have
been a role for you. Again, that's the
era where, you know, people like me were
dreaming about stuff like this. Is it is
it easier today? Are there just so many
more opportunities? Uh so you know
people are willing to to put up with the
you know with with the shabas element of
it like you know what do you think the
difference is and do you think years ago
this could have been done?
>> Yeah, that's a good question. I think
that probably kind of just the landscape
of media as a whole looked so different
then than it does now and the landscape
of media then. And you know you don't
even have to go that far back. I think
even if you go back like 15 years ago,
it was kind of like media. If you
covered baseball, that meant you were a
V reporter and that meant you were in
the clubhouse on these days and you do
this and you do that and it was very cut
and dry and it was like this is what a
career in baseball media looks like. And
that's changed a lot now. And I think
that um I think there are pros and cons
to any any, you know, any balance, any
trade-off, any level of things. Um but
yeah, I don't know. That's a good
question. You got me thinking. Now, I do
think it's probably easier now just
because there's, you know, there's more
creativity, I would say, and more kind
of uh everybody has their own level of
leeway to do.
>> Yeah. I mean, I mean, in those days, if
the radio station, TV station, or
newspaper was not willing to hire you,
you were finished. There was nothing
else to do. Here you have Here you have
avenues that are unique. You know what
got your got me uh uh what caught my
attention and why really what led to me
inviting you on the air uh was your
interview with Dusty Baker. I didn't
realize that he had a he had an
acquaintance that is an Orthodox Jew and
that he's made the effort.
>> He's made and by the way, I'm so curious
if it's the legendary Mik family from
Toronto. I wonder if it's the same.
>> It is. It's the MN family from Toronto.
Meaning know the family beyond Yoni, but
Yoni Rock.
>> Well, that's what I mean. Meaning when I
say legendary Mik family, um there was a
legendary Mik family in Toronto involved
in Jewish music. So, I wonder if they're
the same. But anyway, I could find that
out on my own. But but I I I heard you
speak to him and the level of respect
that he has for orthodox Judaism for
those of all religions who you know make
a commitment to you know have a certain
discipline etc. I thought was really
cool and I think it worked out really
well in the whole baseball discussion
because frankly baseball is a really
disciplined you know routine as well. So
I don't want to call I don't want to
call baseball a religion but I but I
sort of felt there were some parallels
there.
>> No. Yeah. I've I've dwelled on that a
lot that I think between there's a lot
of similarities whether it's the history
the you know kind of the question of how
much do we value tradition verse kind of
embrace you know the modern world
there's there's a whole lot there you
know um but yeah that was really really
cool the first time I met Yion who like
I said I have a big time shout out to
from guy who works at boardroom which
was Kevin Durant and Rich Kimman's very
successful media company um and yeah the
first time that I spoke to him one of
the first things he said to me was Dusty
Baker and I are super tight so yeah I
kind of always had in the back of my
head that would be a really you know,
really cool guest to have on a podcast
one day. Um, you know, had to kind of
wait for the right time to to cash in
that that chip, if you will. But yeah,
for, you know, there was a part of
myself that almost had to like I'll kind
of pinch myself but also keep from
laughing when I was just thinking about
like I'm having a future Hall of Fame
manager on my podcast right now and
we're talking about Kashra.
My how did my sequence of how did the
sequence of events in my life need here?
>> All right. So, you you got to do me a
favor. just when you text him next,
you're going to ask him if he's related
to the uh legendary Shifty Mick. You're
going to you're going to let me know. Uh
Max Mannis is with us. We're talking New
York Yankees, John Boy Media, and his uh
incredible role with his wonderful
background. Uh shout out to YTVA, and of
course all the other schools he's been
to. Um so let me ask you a couple of
questions. Um we talk about tradition.
So, are you for or against the Yankees
obtaining or implementing some type of
alternate uniform?
>> Oh, I thought you were about to ask
about ABS. Um,
>> listen, man. I my response to that is
kind of the same as it pertains to the
beards and all that all those changes
when all that, you know, drama happened
last year, right? I feel like it's a
thing a lot of people have a very strong
take one way or another. If it was up to
me, I probably wouldn't change it, but
like above all else, go win. You know
what I mean? I don't really have it me
to kind of get bogged down in a lot of
those.
>> So, you like you like victories.
>> Yeah. Listen, I I always say I had the
worst timing of all time and that 2010
was the first year that I chose to like
actually be dialed in on baseball. So,
you know, we're going on almost two
decades now and no ring.
>> Well, you know, I'll give I'll give you
the opposite perspective. my late
brother whose birthday happens to be
today. My late brother was born in 1951.
He was 10 years old for Mantel Maris and
and then the and then this subsequent
incredible you know championship run or
at least America League pennet/
championship run through 1964. I am
always jealous of the Yankee experience
he had. Although although I did come
close because obviously as a teenager I
was enjoying the Thurman and Reggie
Yankees. So, so I I got to be careful in
terms of uh of um you know, lamenting
how many championships I missed. Uh
because as uh as you would agree, a lot
of people would be jealous of my run. Um
you bring up ABS. I'll be honest with
you, I never thought it would work as
well as it has. I can't stand the uh
extra innings runner on second base. I
don't like inter league play. So, I
really am a traditionalist. guess Bob
Kasus would probably call me a
traditionalist, but I thought ABS would
ruin the game. I think it's only
enhanced it. What do you think?
>> Yeah, I think at the end of the day,
like just, you know, there's anybody can
nitpick any kind of change. I understand
there are people who are always kind of
just going to be nostalgic for whatever
version of the game you grew up in. And
I can't hate on that. But I think at the
end of the day, like thinking back to
the fact that we used to have bad calls
to side games, like as recently as in
March, the USA versus DRWBC game that
ended on a bad 3-2 pitch to call to
Heraldo Purdomo, right? Everybody was
kind of watching that being like, "This
might be the last time in a very long
time that we've watched a game actually
truly get decided by this." And that's
that's kind of crazy. Like I think also
this is a good point that John Boy
should give a shout out to my boss um
that I'll steal this point from him is
that he said it feels like when you have
a challenge go your way it feels awesome
and when one goes against you it doesn't
it doesn't feel like
>> oh like it feels like no like that's how
that's supposed to go like
>> it is a momentum it is a momentum
changer. It is a momentum changer for
sure.
>> Yeah. By the way, by the way,
yesterday's game,
>> right? In yesterday's game, we had a
momentum changer with a a call early in
the game. Uh, right. Elmer had a a ball
that was turned into a strike. Correct.
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, and it would have And
because it wasn't a strike out, he ends
up throwing out the runner at second.
So, like, correct. That's the difference
between no one on two outs or two on and
no out for a dude in the first inning of
his MLB career. Yeah. Kind of at all,
>> by the way. Uh, and I know it's so
funny. They always say, you know, every
every time you watch a baseball game,
you learn something new. And I know
that's an exaggeration, but it's sort of
true.
>> I I I didn't real I didn't realize if
you get hit by a pitch, you could
actually strike out on the same pitch.
>> Yeah. As long as you swing. One one of
the ones that kind of blew my mind that
I didn't know until a few years ago was
if a pitch bounces and then hits the
hitter, it still counts as a hit by
pitch, right? I I watched that and I was
like, I've watched baseball for almost
two decades. And how did I not know
that?
>> But on the one on the one that I on the
one that I just brought up, would they
if if it wasn't the third strike, would
they have put him on first base or not?
Like is it is it the same rule if it's
one strike?
>> No, I I think it's a swing regardless. I
think it's a strike regardless.
>> Interesting.
>> Learn something learn something new
every day
>> to say the least. I'll tell you.
Unbelievable. Um so you know I I any
excuse to talk about the Yankees on this
show. So I thank you.
>> One of the out.
>> Yeah, I appreciate that. How well do you
know Yankee history? Like are you one of
those people that really knows
everything that happened, you know,
starting with Barah or are you somebody
that that's only focused on the last 10,
15 years? No, I mean, listen, I know my
history. When I was younger, it was
impossible to get me to read any kind of
book that wasn't about baseball. I've
been reading um Ball Four by Jim Boutton
recently. THAT'S BEEN MY SHEST.
>> OH MY GOSH.
>> That was a lifechanging book for a
million people.
>> Everybody that I've asked that's, you
know, got a few decades on me, I
mentioned it to my uncle over uh over
Pesos and he almost like he looked me
with his jaw on the floor like you've
never read ball four. I was like,
listen, I'm getting engrossed in it now.
And not only not only that, not only
that, you got to put yourself back into
that era because if you if you think
it's a lot of it seems pretty tame now.
>> Correct. Correct. If you think it's a if
you think it's a revolutionary book,
imagine when it came out what it was
like.
>> Yeah. No, I can only imagine. Um, but
yeah, so when I when I was younger, you
know, baseball history, baseball stats,
I used to sit there reading like Becket
baseball card price guides and stuff
like that. So yeah, I was I was holding,
if you will. I think now at this point
it's that's kind of one of the one of
the trade-offs of like working in
baseball is that when every single day
is kind of spent on just you know hey
what's the 24-hour news cycle what are
we talking about post clips about this
post you know highlights post news it
can be a little uh I don't know it can
be a little difficult to kind of strike
that balance of living in the now just
appreciating the history and all that
but in in the offseason I I do my
reading I get my Ken Burns fixed you
know I try to I try to keep an eye on
the bigger picture
>> so uh on the so we again we don't often
get to speak about the Yankees he's on
this show. Uh, but I when Marty Appel
wrote a book about Thurman Mson, I
believe on the 30th anniversary of
Mson's death.
>> Okay.
>> And I mean you, you know, the
circumstances of Mson's death, I'm sure.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> I did not know it was on picture. I
learned that matter.
So I say to Marty Appel on this show, I
say to him, this I know this is a crazy
question, but I'm so curious because for
us it was literally the middle of the
day on Tishabove and everybody my age,
especially the Yankee fans, can tell you
exactly where they were and where they
were standing when they heard the news
that Mson's plane crashed and that he
was dead.
>> And it was it was on Tishabove. And I
said to Marty, I just got to ask you
this question. you know, months since
crash, his death happened on a
significant day in the Jewish calendar
on Tishabove. Did you ever hear of that?
And I'll never forget he says to me, he
says, you know, I think I remember
hearing something about that. Like, you
know, I seem to remember like, you know,
the scuttlebutt, you know, in my temple,
you know, was about months in a
>> very hungry, very sleepd deprived Jew
was telling me about that that day.
>> Oh, is that funny? Yeah, you could say
that again.
Um, all right. So,
look, I I'm How often do you do a
podcast? Like, you have a guest. How
often?
>> Yeah, it kind It kind of differs based
on based on a lot of things. Based on
availability, based on my jamboy work
schedule, but I try to shoot for at
least two a month. Um, especially in the
offseason. It's easier if you do a
little here here's here's why you need
me as a guest. Okay, I'll tell you why.
Why you need me as a guest? I could tell
you where I was when Bucky Dent hit the
home run on Rashana.
>> There you go. I could tell you that my
late brother was at Jim Bunnings's
perfect game.
>> Okay.
>> I could tell which was Father's Day, by
the way. Father's Day 1964, Shay
Stadium.
>> I could I could tell you that um that
that both my my that two of my my that
my two older brothers were both at the
Chamblas game.
>> Wow.
>> I I could I could tell you that I was
living, this is a crazy story, I was
living in Chamblas's building the night
he hit the home run.
>> Okay. So I have I have colleagues who
actually saw him that night after that
game.
>> Wow. There you go. That's an impressive
launch. OH,
>> I'M TELLING YOU I'M TELLING YOU I HAVE
SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. I CAN TELL YOU
clearly
>> I can tell you I can tell you that my
two older brothers were at the Red G77
game six.
>> There you go.
>> So there's just too I mean I have too
much baseball stuff I must spew forth.
And I think you're going to be assigned
to just to just you know take care of
this for me. Let me let me get it all
out. Yeah. Listen, there's no shame in
that. I always say like it's, you know,
my day job is to talk baseball, but
that's kind of what I would be doing
anyway.
>> I want I wonder if you, a young Yankee
fan, would understand the significance
of this one.
>> You know what game my brother was at? He
was at
>> Panella Carlton Fist. Do you even know
what that means? Panella Carlton Fist.
>> I'm guessing a fight of some massive
massive role. Cuz I remember I remember
if you were at that game in in that
year, I think it was 76. If you were at
that game,
>> it was like the talk of the town that
you were there that night.
>> I'll never forget a guy came over to my
brother just to talk about baseball
>> and he said to me, "Have you noticed
that Panella is, you know, just not
hitting well this year?" or something
like that. And my brother said, "Well, I
was there the night of the brawl." What?
You were there the night of just like
the biggest deal that he was actually
there that evening. But I'll tell you,
I'll give you another one. Here's
another reason why I need to be a guest
of yours. Listen to this stat. This is
going to blow your mind. You ready for
this?
>> Let's hear it. Go for it.
>> From 19 I can't believe I'm doing this.
From 19 From 1975
till 1982,
>> I was at god knows how many Yankee
games.
>> Never had a Yankee loss.
>> In fact, that's an impressive track.
>> Correct. Agreed. In fact, here's how
horrible this whole thing was. How did
how did the streak end in 1982? Bobby
Brown, not the original Bobby Brown, the
one who played in the 80s for the
Yankees.
>> Sure.
>> You know, there were two Bobby Browns on
the Yankees. You know that, right?
>> I'm familiar.
>> The guy knows his stuff. I love it. So,
>> the story with Yogi in the comic books
and the the doctor book. It's a classic.
>> Correct. Very good.
>> Doctor, he was a doctor. Bobby Brown was
in fact a doctor, right?
>> Um, so the the other Bobby Brown 1982,
the Yankees are about to win the game.
In fact, we we were behind home plate
cuz, you know, we were ready to run out
of the stadium the second the third out
and he dropped the third out and the
Orioles came back and won. That's how I
lost my streak.
>> Could you imagine? Could you imagine?
That's how I lost my streak. I was also
at the longest nine ining game in Yankee
history.
>> Really? Okay, tell me more.
>> I don't know. I wonder if it's still the
longest nine in game because there were
so many long games in, you know, in the
last 10 years. I was at a game where the
Yankees lost to the Orioles 18-9 on a
Sunday. must have been must have been
like 1988 in that area
>> and and at that time
>> Yankee team
>> and it was a bad Yankee team and at that
time it was the longest uh it was the
longest nine inning game in Yankee
history.
>> Okay, there you go. Yeah, I my I set a
personal record a couple weeks ago with
I spent eight and a half hours in one
day Yankee safety between a rain delay
and then the game
>> Oh, was that that Sunday? Was that that
Sunday?
>> That was a Sunday. But you know what? I
ended up being able to bring Susan
Walden Bata in in the press box.
and I'll take the
>> That was Sunday Colomoid, right?
>> Sunday colomoid. You got it.
>> Did she really take the mat? That's
funny.
>> I Well, I brought the mat and she
actually already had it. She said, "Oh,
somebody brought me already." But I
said, "Okay, fine. You'll take this one,
too." I ended up keeping a little bit of
it. I was like, "I got to eat something
for lunch today."
>> I don't I don't think she works on Yum
Kipper if I'm if I'm
>> She does not. Yeah. when she came on my
when she came on my podcast, she said
that uh she said one of her well she
because she grew up a Red Sox fan in
Boston area and so she said that on the
Bucky end game day on Rashana she and
her brother still to this day blame
themselves for the fact that they went
to the game and that's why the Red Sox
LOST BUT SO
>> I LOVE IT.
>> So yes, he said to this day I don't work
Yum Kipper. Yankees Red Sox. We have
Yankees Red Sox wild card this year
again on Yum Kipper and you know she
said I wasn't touching it this time.
>> Wow. And finally, just to continue to
toot my own horn, which I generally
don't do, but to today I have no choice.
I'm just, you know,
>> go for it.
>> Once I heard you were coming on, I said
this guy's gonna have to sit through
everything I got to tell him. I I I take
great pride with all the time you spend
at the stadium.
>> I take great pride in the fact that I
know the most important person at Yankee
Stadium.
>> Who's that?
>> The Mashk and Legends.
>> I I had a feeling you were going to say
Mashkaf. The Legends one. Okay. I'm not
at that level yet. One day we'll get
there. In fact, in fact, I've been
giving you Do Do you ever sneak into
Legends or You can't do that.
>> No, I mean, like, you know, with my
career and all that, I try to be I try
to be pretty cognizant of a lot of those
things. When I was, you know, 10 years
ago, maybe a different story, I would
have been a little bit more
advantageous, but at this point, it's
like, all right, you know, you're an
adult. You have an image to uphold. We
can't be uh we can't be muddying in
those waters anymore. But hey, you tell
them if if Yankee Stadium legends Kosher
Mashiaf wants to sponsor the Max Madness
Pod and dish me a couple free tickets
every now and then, far be it for me to
turn that down. I got I got to go with
you once. I got to invite you there
once. I got to take you there once.
>> Okay. Okay. You tell me one.
>> That's a great idea. You want to know
when is a great day? And I don't know if
this will work out.
>> Uh I'll I'll be in touch with you and
let you know if it works out. You know,
it's a great day to go.
>> Um a week from today, a week from today,
they're playing the Orioles, an
afternoon game,
>> and I have the menu for legends for that
day. It's probably the best. Probably
the best.
>> You got the inside scoop. Okay. Haven't
>> I'm telling you, I know the most
important that guy.
>> I'm telling you, I know the most
important guy, Yankee Stadium.
>> Yeah. No, I don't I don't doubt it. You
You hyped it up a lot. I was wondering
where you were going to go with that. It
did not let me down.
>> So, so if things work out, right, 20%
chance, but at least we'll put it on the
table. If things work out, we'll be
eating at the buffet next Thursday
afternoon. If it works out, we'll see
what happens.
>> All right. Listen, far be it for me to
turn that down. Like I said,
>> correct. If not, then we'll certainly uh
we'll certainly um you know take a rain
check as they say in the world of
baseball. Did you like the fact that
they ran it back for this year? I I'll
tell you, you know why I like I'll tell
you why I liked it, then I'll ask you
for your opinion. I liked it because I
thought they did great last year.
Obviously, you know, uh Toronto picked
them off, but they did it without
Garrett Cole, and I said to myself, they
do the same thing again, but they have
Cole coming back, it's going to be an
even better season. What do you think?
Yeah, I had I mean listen on paper at
the end of the day you can look at the
fact that they have all those rotation
guys coming back and they the number one
offense in baseball like there's I very
much understand why the Yankees front
office felt like this was you know an
okay thing to put their foot down on. I
think my main hesitations were one kind
of just the bullpen like I know Devin
Williams and Luke Weaver weren't all
that at the end of the year last year
but I I you know I feel like I've said
this 15 different times. I feel like I
say this, you know, I'm a broken record
with how many times I've been saying
this since the season started, but the
fact the Yankees didn't just sign like
an average to above average middle
reliever issue this offseason, like I
think they're very scared of paying
relievers after how the Raldis Chapman,
Zack Britain era contracts went down.
Um, and I think the pendulum swung so
far in the direction of like, oh, Matt
Blake will just grab a couple guys off
the scrap heap and, you know, turn them
into productive arms that they kind of
got to a point where they were banking
on that and making instead of making
that a luxury, making it something they
were depending on, which I think is a
slippery slope to say the least. And
then offensively, I think, you know, I
mean, Ben Rice has been, you know,
surpassing everybody's expectations so
far except the Yankees. I think the
Yankees think he's like, you know, the
Yankees probably think he's like a top
fiveish hitter in baseball as far as
like in the long run and how good he
actually is. And you listen with with
how he's hitting right now, you know,
far, you know, I can't I can't exactly
say I don't see it. Um, but I think
listen, it was a lot it's a lot of
expectations on guys like Gisham and
Jazz to repeat what they did last year.
So, I think in that sense, I just wanted
a righty bat of some capacity. I wanted
to especially now that like a Stanton is
down for example like suddenly the
Yankees right-handed you know depth
chart offensively is like you got Judge
and then you got like Vulpian Caviro
kind of and like Dominguez who can't
even really hit from the right side. So
as far as that goes I you know I want
one in some capacity. I think we'll
probably get one at the deadline.
They'll figure something out with
whether it's third base, whether it's
maybe like a platoon catcher for Wells.
We'll see where he's at at that point.
But I was I was overall fine with
running back the general structure of
the team. I didn't think they needed any
kind of like massive changes. But
>> yeah, I hear you have some qualifying
offer decision ages and yeah, bull
bullpen and a couple right backs.
>> I I think I think that I think the
Gisham Gisham coming back I thought was
a good thing. I know people weren't
happy because of the money and all that,
but the guy's performing and Ben Rice,
look, I don't know if he's just, you
know, hitting great for a month or if
he's really a superstar, but he's
certainly
>> I think it's the real deal. And the
Yankees do, too. The numbers don't lie.
>> Wow. You know who's you know who's
treated unfairly? I'll give you the
three guys who are treated unfairly. You
ready?
>> Okay.
>> Vulpi.
>> I think All right. I mean, we might be
here for another hour if you get me
going on that.
>> I mean, I I think if they'd let him as a
healthy player play every day, he'd be
fine, but I don't
>> I think they've let him play too much
the last few days. I think the last few
years, I think they've kind of ran him
into the ran him into the ground by the
fact that they said, "This is our
starting shortstop. We're going to play
him 160 games." I think he the truth is
he was put in an unfair position because
they passed in all these shorts stops
and they kind of anointed him as the
next jeter and all these things and I
don't I don't think they set him up for
success but I mean there's not a whole
lot of guys that have gotten everyday
run to the extent that he has over the
last three years and I felt like they it
felt like the Yankees wanted to kind of
put their foot down on that and make an
organizational statement about we
believe in this and I felt like they
kind of let their pride and their ego
get in the way of winning baseball
games. But whatever. We'll be here. Like
I said, we'll be here for another hour
if I keep talking.
>> The second guy The second guy being
treated unfairly is McMahon. He's he he
>> Okay. I'm I like the trade a lot of the
time. He looks he looks too much like
Brooks Robinson to to really criticize
him. And
>> no, he can pick it. He can pick it at
third. Don't get the thing is he doesn't
even have to hit that much to justify
if he's a league average hitter with his
glove. And I and I think if they play
him every day, he will be a league
average hitter in my opinion.
>> Yeah. I mean, we shall see. They gave
him a decent amount of run to start the
year. And then I think it's a question
of what kind of role they want Rosario
to have. All that's also just going to
shake up with Cabiera. Once Vulpi gets
back, like the whole I don't know. I've
been saying like I think the the story
of the season we hasn't really started
to get written yet, but I think once
Vulpi comes back, it'll be like all
right, you know, where's the where's
this where's the story taking us?
>> And I think I think they're also unfair
to Wells. They
>> I'm a Wells guy. I I I've been saying I
think Wells kind of I think he probably
would have gotten a lot more heat last
year if Walpie didn't struggle as much
as he did. Um but yeah, it's crazy
because Wells was supposed to be like
back first, like you know, can't really
catch. Maybe he'll have to figure out
first base or left field or just be a DH
down the road. And now it's gotten to a
point where it's like his glove is kind
of been more of an asset for the last
year plus. Um but I mean, listen, he,
you know, homered in Houston, homerred
in Texas, so we shall see. I would love
if we could get it going.
>> Interesting. Boy, oh boy. All right.
Sounds like you have high expectations
for this team. You expect at least 100
victories.
>> Hey, listen. I'm a fan at the end of the
day. I don't know. You know, I, you
know, in the past there are times where
I try to be very timid, very rational,
very like see the bigger picture, but at
the end of the day, it's like I'm a
Yankees fan. There's never going to be a
day where I wake up and don't think the
Yankees are winning on that given day.
That's, you know, that's part of what
being a fan is about. So, we shall see.
>> Do you think uh do you think cross town
uh Sodto is going to improve?
Uh, I mean, he's going to be better
than, you know, than he's been,
generally speaking, just because he's
Juan Sodto. Is he going to stay out the
duration of that 15-year contract in
Queens? I think might be a different
conversation. But listen, the Mets are
the Mets are going through it right now.
Baseball always have a way has a way of,
you know, the when you're you can't get
too high and you can't get too low
because you're going to meet in the
middle at some point at a five out of 10
level. So, the Mets, listen, they'll
turn things around to some capacity.
They're not going to stay as bad as
they've been. They're not going to stay
on this uh what's it called? on this
pace. But I mean, the list of the list
of teams that have started as poor as
they have and had losing streaks like
that and have gone to the playoffs is
not exactly plentiful. So, we shall see.
>> How did John Boy find you if you were
6,000 miles away at YTVA?
>> Yeah. So, I knew Jimmy. I've joked like
I followed Jimmy since before I had more
Twitter followers than he did back when
he was a dude with like 100 150 Twitter
followers tweeting out of a basement as
kind of just like a side gig passion
project. Um, so I was an early listener
to Talking Yanks when he started that,
like even before Jake joined. And then I
actually, this is a cool story. So I ran
like a baseball stats and baseball fan
club at Hessel. Um, and my senior year,
he moved to the city in early November
of 2019. Um, and I said, "Hey, would
love for you to come speak to this club
that we run." And he said, "Sir, sure,
let's do let's do November 14th."
November 13th, the Astros scandal
breaks. He makes this breakdown that
goes crazy viral, like leaves the leaves
the sports world. It was like on CNN. So
I was thinking to myself like holy moly
this guy's like you know he might not
come tomorrow and that's super valid
like you know he's doing the Michael K
show right now he does have to come to
the Hel sports analytics club still came
spoke for like an hour and a half two
hours really long time stayed in touch
and yeah I in the middle of my son Olive
I reached out to him and I was like hey
you know I'll be back in the city this
summer we'd love to intern for you guys
in some capacity and he was like oh we
could we could kind of use someone to
start right now so I was like all right
I'm on a seven hour time difference for
the next however many months but as long
as you're cool with that. Um, so yeah,
for the last however many months of my
channel Olaf, my schedule was like
waking up at 2 am for Yankees games,
napping for like twoish hours on each
side of that. And considering that one
night of sleep, which I do not recommend
working during the day, at least
balancing a lot.
>> At least at least you're able to watch
the Shabas games.
>> Yeah, exactly. That that much was a nice
perk. That much I do somewhat miss, but
uh hey, tradeoffs, right?
>> No, I hear it. But my my kids in
Jerusalem when they hear it as a 12:30
or 1:00 Yankee game, they're they're thr
they're thrilled.
>> Uh it's pretty it's pretty amazing,
frankly. Oh, it's all about baseball and
it's all about the Yankees.
Unbelievable.
>> Uh and is there an official relationship
between John Boy and the Yes Network or
not?
>> Yes. Yeah, we are. You know, we a lot of
our content is shown on there. Michael K
is an investor of the company. We are on
awesome terms with the Yes Network. They
rock.
>> Interesting. Are there others in your uh
in your solar system as well? Or is it
John Boy and Yes. Like are there others?
>> I mean MLB MLB invested in our company
last year. So that was pretty cool. That
was the first time that a pro sports
league has invested in any kind of
independent media company that um what's
it called that you know covers the
sport. So that was a pretty big deal in
the industry when that happened. Um what
else? I'm sure we've got some other
pretty impressive ones that are blanking
on me right now.
>> Frankly, yeah, frankly MLB and the S
network are pretty impressive, frankly.
>> Yeah. Hard to top.
>> Yeah, very hard to top. Really amazing,
I'll tell you. Well, uh, Max, you sound
like an amazing guy. Can't wait to meet
you and, uh, continue good luck with
what you're doing and Oh, I wanted to
ask you cuz especially in this show,
would be appropriate. Uh, we know that
high-profile people, especially in the
media, including in sports. Uh, things
were not always comfortable uh, after
October 7th. Things weren't always
comfortable when Israel was at war. You
feel a lot of that stuff or it's
basically ignored in your uh, in your
arena? Um, I mean, listen, social media
is going to be social media. You,
especially like when, you know, when
things were heating up with the war, you
could have checked my Twitter comments
on any given day and, you know, you
could have predicted what that was going
to be. So, that was it was a little bit
jarring at the start and then I think at
a certain point I just realized like,
all right, it's people on a screen and
you know, they have no actual impact on
my life. And one of the things I
realized, one, there's all there's
Jewish people in the industry and kind,
you know, people that you've heard of
and people that like I hadn't even heard
of but I would have never known hold
whatever, you know, high up cool
position at whatever company. um that
reach out to me and say, "Hey, I really
like what you do." Like, you never know
who's watching. Um and beyond that, I've
realized that there are people kind of
like what I was saying before about how
people respect like shops, observants.
Like there's people that follow me um
that you know aren't Jews, probably have
zero kind of connection or frankly like
care whatsoever about Israel, Gaza,
about any of that. But I think people
that just see like, hey, this is a kid
that, you know, is in the social media
space where it's not popular to stand up
for something unpopular where it's not,
you know, it's not something that
everyone's doing. And he's very, I don't
know, kind of driven by his morals and
his history and his tradition. And I
think that earns a lot of respect in
people's eyes. So people always ask me
like, "Oh, don't you think that, you
know, you know, advocating for Israel
and stuff like that has closed a lot of
doors for you?" And I always say like,
"Sure." Like, frankly, at the end of the
day, those are doors that like I I
don't, you know, if you don't like me,
you don't like me. I don't think, you
know, there's no one that I what I could
have collaborated with, but you know,
oh, you know, you know, he's vocal about
being Jewish. I'm not going to I'm not
going to bother like, okay, that's
someone that I don't really need
regardless. Like, cut your losses. But
like I said, you know, there's Jewish
people that it definitely um elevates
that in their eyes and non-Jewish people
that I think look at it and even if they
don't know, even if they don't care, I
think just seeing like, hey, you know,
you know, this isn't just somebody who
goes along with the herd and goes along
with whatever Tik Tok tells them to say,
I think I think holds a lot of merit in
people's eyes. Can you go to Schul's
shop this morning without people like me
bothering you about Thurman Mson and
Reggie Jackson?
>> I mean, it's usually more so, you know,
whether the Yankees won or lost last
night. But listen, I'll take I'll take
whatever baseball hawk I could get.
>> So, it doesn't bother you that much.
>> No, listen. Far far be for me to ever
turn down any kind of baseball
conversation at 2:1.
>> Oh, hilarious. I got some good stories,
by the way, about trying to find out
scores on Shabas also. You should know.
>> I bet. I bet. Uh, Max, a real pleasure.
Hatah, the best of luck continued for
you and go Yankees.
>> Appreciate it. Go Yankees is right.
Thanks so much for having me.
>> Max Mannis, everybody. Johnboy Media.
Great guy. so glad that uh uh I
discovered him or I should say I
discovered his connection to Judaism
through his conversation with Dusty
Baker, followed up and we were able to
get him on the air and he even he even
he even was intrigued by that whole
Chris Chamblas thing. Wouldn't you think
folks? I think so. Anyway,
sphere of format uh sphere of format
Thursday and you're listening to JM in
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