MATONOS LOEVYONIM: GIVING ON PURIM OR BEING RECEIVED ON PURIM

One of the four mitzvah of Purim mitzvah kabala is matanism. You see two of the four mitzvah suda and kusilla you're mine in the mitzvah meaning to say is you're not dependent on anybody else. Of course, if you're on the lane the migilly list and somebody else read the migill, but you do the mitzvah and of course the mitzvah has to be on clar, right? And there are two people that are involved in the mitzvah. the you're giving you're giving and then the recipient the person that gets the gets the in today's we're going to try to clarify what part of the mitzvah has to be done on pur like I said before and suda you do the mitzvah you listen to migilla you eat a suda Uh, of course you have to eat the sud on pur. There's a discussion about starting the the suda right before murmur. You do the mitzvah on purmon. I'm going to focus on these the and these the do you have to give the money on purm send the money as long as you give the money send the money even though the gets it after purm that's okay because the mitzvah is everybody understands that the surah of the mitzvah is and you give the money And the gets it. But do both parts have to be on Purim or only one part just the or just the to understand it's simple. Could you give the mat today? Let's see you send it in the mail and the gets it on Purum or do you have to give it on Purim and even if the gets it after Purum that's for sure if you send the money today and the gets it after Purum. So not the and not the makaba was on purum for sure you're not yita do you need both? Do you have to give it and an simpler to understand is that it's totally under the the mitzvah is for you to give. The reason for like the Rambam says the Rambom says if you're spending more on a mitzvah from the four mitzvah says the Rambam if you're going to choose which mitzvah if you you have extra money to spend expand more than the other then to make a bigger suda and then more than to spend Why the meaning to say is the mitzvah on the nois to give but it's with a purpose to make the the happy. So is it a on the or is it a purim? Who do you have to give it on or the has to get it on? Let's go through a little bit the sim of the mo brings the balamore and it's also brought in the bea he brings the following just going to briefly go over the question because this is the whole she the shila is it that the has to give. I'm I'm sorry that the nois has to give on pm or as long as the gets it on perm it's good brings the a person shouldn't give matis before purim because if you give matim to the before purim he might come to eat it up and if he eats it up he's not going to have the matim on purim which would seem to say that let's You're clear that he's not going to eat up the he's not going to use it up before PM then you could give it before Pum which is even a bigger you could give it to the the and all the transactions are all before PM and says not to do it because he's going to eat it up before but if you don't have such a then you could if you figure out of so you know that he's not going to eat it. You could give the mat to the before pum. So laa just to point out obviously though we'll see soon may be different you need to do the mitzvah on perm. So this that the says that you could give it to the before if you know that he's not going to eat it is because there's no den in the mabal kaducian that he has to get it on purim. He has to have it on Purim. He has to have it. If you give it to the before Purim, if you give it to the before PM and he has it on Purim, meaning they say we're stretching it. We said if it's in the has to give it on PM. If it's he, he has to get it on PM. If he gets it a day before Purum and he still has it on Purim, it's considered that he still has it. says if not these issues >> what if it's like a lock that the has in his pos in his possession but he doesn't open it till >> very good means you give it to the anie but you're afraid he's going to eat it so you you you have a lock box in theie's house and you release it you push digitally you open up you give him the combination on perm I'll give you a little bit of a like a little bit of a better example First of all, you send it, you mail it, but then he gets it on PM. But let's even get a better example that he got it before purim. You give it a tot and the pash this is when you give it to stucker the gabit stucker is for the so if you give today money to stim he already has it it's not in a lock box that's you know lock but the has the money already in such a case even though he got it the 100% gave matanis love yam today okay the macab even though he got it today. Lamisa he has a purum. So it's like he got a purum. >> What's the point of giving it? That kind of answers the question. >> What's the point of giving it? >> What's the point? >> Oh, very good. So that's tak is it the because you the kabala to give mat or to be and we're going to see the if you give it early what has left we're going to go through it that's a sh we're gonna we're going to cover item the pagadim in his pish and says I don't understand how could you be mitzvah before pum meaning to say is the says that if not for the issue that the on is going to eat it up you could give it to the hand it today you could give the honey knock on his door today the e you're afraid that too many people are going to give him money and that he's not going to be eian anymore you you bring you bring it today you bring yeah you bring it today you bring him the money today you want to make sure you what do you mean today. Could you read the migilla today? How could you be by giving today? Just like he says you can't give us today. You can't give it's very nice the teachers have hours before pur. It's not so practical to go on Purim. But you're not >> What about mail? if someone says in the mail that they know it's time to get their own. >> So, so Lisa, we're gonna we're gonna get to the male thing in a minute. If not, please bring it up. But the the same sh this is important to note the whole discussion of today's mat was also which makes it interesting that the primadam says how could you give today you can't give today and it's the same it's in the mat. So just like you can't give him you can't give him a ton of who said you can't give him we're going to see that the can clare by both but the primagum asks and the primagum says I'm going to explain to you and brought up this this point very well said that is to be maras we gave many but alapon to make. Okay. So the is to be on. So therefore you give him however you want to define it. We spoke about it in the night. Is it a mitzvah? It's an for but you're giving money to the to be able to prepare to have a pur a purse suda says the primaagam these are these are mil to give it to them before purim so he has money to be able to prepare purim you're going to give it to them on pur two o'clock in the afternoon very nice I don't even know if the stores are open what's he doing with the money on purim so says the prima god he's a mil to give a ton of y before purim Lisa says to if you're going to give it to me before it could be problematic. He's going to use up the money for today for Shabas. So that's a technical reason why not to give it to him early. Those says to primagam you could give it to him tinus Esther because Lisa Tinus Esther you fast or leurim and it's not going to get used up. Really technically it could get used up. He's going to use it for Leo Purum. But he says that much before Tinus Esther don't give it to Ni because it's going to be used up before Purum. But if you give it to Tinus Esther Leo Purum, you could give already matis then. So what we have so far clearly is the Mavram holds that you could be mimit before PM. At least the can give it before Purim. the you could say that the is is that the still has it on. So it's like the got it. But let's continue this discussion that we're speaking about if it's tal and the or the do you have to give the mat or as long as the gets it on the brings the shares by both and is it a and you have a to give it or is it as long as the gets it on that's enough he brings as well from the yad that you could you could give matis before pum didn't and the empist the maria aam it's quoted in the maram says you could as well first of all he brings a from the mug of ram that you could that we just spoke about he says says just like you prepare the suda before PM. So the outcome is that the should have the on should have to get to that to give him the money that's all preparing for that but maybe you could give it before pur he says another point he says if somebody can't read the on then you can read it and if you can't even read it's read the whole the whole you to read it. It's brought the same thing also. You could give it before you could give it before. Another reason why you could give it you could be mim which is saying you could be mim the whole mitzvah not just because it's totally in just like you could be or even from earlier though it's interesting because this is from from be to read before is not if you can't you can read it earlier So so far so far we had clearly that it's in the you could give matum today you can give matim today sham says you have to make sure that it doesn't get used up but if you give it to a lock box or you send it in the mail so you ready ni you put it in the mail you are nicer now and it gets to the anon pur kavaldic the brings this shah I think he even brings the hat of declare and he says that you're not why first of all because it's one of the mitzvah just like you read the migillum you're supposed to give matus you give mus is and he says what is left on if you give them before though technically if it's a and still has the money he still has but says you can't give before so giving it to and the would be a problem so what do You what do what what do you do t if you give the organizations you give them earlier they're not z your money they're not maka your money to the holding on to your money as a pad they're holding your money your money is by them and when it comes purim on your behalf they give the money to so ma you're giving it you are giving Correct. Yeah. The makabell doesn't need any. The makabell just wants to know at the end of the day he needs money and he gets money. But I'm saying that the organizations are taking the money of you. They're not a stuck. You see different you can't change because they're already the sucker takes the when he takes it. He takes it and by the stuck taking the money here they take the money to hold on to your money. It's your money. If you gave already to an organization to give to Anani, they're holding on to your money and on when they give it to they're giving your money to. So you're nois like the says you have to give it on pur. You're giving it on pur. >> That's why you're not supposed to change. >> What say? >> You say you're not supposed to change. >> If about changing the you're not supposed to change. If you gave it to he was to the so you can't take away the money from the but here if they're holding on to your money of course you gave it to them that they should give it to because you want the mitzvah. So they v can't change to give it to something else not but they're giving it on your behalf. Let's go over for a moment now based off what we spoke if it's in the let's go over to very gush that's always nea for for us pur is your dal you're in bak pur is your and somebody comes around collecting to be given so the question could be in two parts and this is very negate. It's always negate. You'll see over here people coming around collecting for we spoke about it's a big mile to give to it may even be have over it's a big sha but alapon it's a big mil to give big very big for the shil could be twofold. You're giving it on Tuesday. Let's say, as we said, you're giving it to the that's going to give it over. You're giving it Tuesday or you're giving it today and he's going to give it over. He could be giving it over Tuesday on our PM. And then there could be another way is that you're giving it Tuesday cuz you're the and you're giving it on your PM and the organization is giving it over to the on Wednesday on >> Oh, so let's see ta let's take each one by itself on the first shila that it's purim for you for us and giving over to the ani that it's not pur meaning to say that today you Tuesday you give the on Tuesday so for him it's not so let's let's take it apart for a minute if it's a that you're supposed to give so you're giving what's the difference it has to be it's a that the has to be has to be pim for him but like we said I give it earlier the only and he might eat it. That's that would be a problem if the gets it on your then he needs it for but so you're giving matim I he gets it after pumm okay he he gets I'm sorry before pim it's not his pumm you're giving >> he never gets p doesn't have pumm doesn't have your pumm >> why why does it he doesn't have pumm for whatever reason it's not he doesn't have your pumm you don't share the same p >> but when you You have to give. Does it say? It says you have to give mat. You have to give mat to poor people. It has to be purim for him also. Why does it have to be purim on your porim was maken later on after yam didn't go through his maken to give matim. So you have to give you gave mim. Does it make a difference that it's not pur for the today? that goes from to Ben let's say right can he take two days in a row >> okay so I want let's let's get to the shila right now very good if he goes to Ben so lisa the first >> shila >> we want to know if you could give on to that it's not very very straightforward you clearly know and you're on and you want to wire over money right into his account. We didn't today we didn't go into the how much to give >> but you're sending you're sending money to the it's not >> so it's broughtman whose yard site now is shampuram yod and brings in two different places they all quote from the kazan that you're not you're not even says a I don't remember that he brings the but he says he says but it's not just that the is to give the money it's to give him sudas pur if it's not pur so what are you giving him you have to give him sudas purim It's not says you're not and just about you were saying about the coming and going there was a story once that they made a big collection in Benak before PM already like we said the Gabaka they collected for Alman and Shallay and Alman said that Alman should go to Benak for Purum like this she'll be in Benabak for Purum her pur will be the dollar and they'll give her the dollar but otherwise you're not you're not you're not >> someone could do two days per >> that's a separate discussion and when is it and could you do two pum and you have to be ready in ben that's a whole discussion >> they go to ben they're there for pumm they hear in migill the first night they hear >> if you're right that you could do two pumami you go first to Ben and then they could get over there then but we're speaking about somebody that's in your could you give them um could you give them >> a year like last year where I believe they did early because it was >> so well let's I want to finish we'll take we'll go into that pr that's a discussion also how you split it upon >> but we'll we'll handle that of of after that particular thing yeah But hold on a second. When is he getting it? He's getting it. The money is getting it on your dollar or the getting it on tough. We're not talking about that yet. Right now we're talking about you gave money to the git stucker and the stuck is giving it on your brings that held that you are. You are ya. You are. So I think the more this is like what the p can bring. But the he brings the hel to give on your in now let's go to what you were bringing up over and then let me hear t please what you're bringing up one more the other way around also. If you if you're invul it's not pur this is even a little bit worse because if you give it your dollar to your dollar then purum at least ly he could hold on to it for pur the next day but if you give from a tes to neak to an over there it's already after pur but if you hold it to So it's a dinner you could. Now let's go to the next the other way around. Not the other way around. The next not that you're giving your dollar to you. You're giving your dollar and the only gets it on. That's a pretty clear like you said about the stock. You give it to the organization. They're holding it on your behalf. Just like if you give matim today to an organization, they're holding it for you. Pum and giving it on PM. You're going to give. They're going to come around. They're collecting. They're holding on to your money and they're giving it on. So that's a P for this also. You're not though some want to say that could be over here. The would be It's brought in the name of the and the gets it on Purim. It's better. If you give your dollar and it comes to on your dollar, it's not Purim. But if you give on your dollar and it comes to the onion of your >> It's also It's also being It's also being The noise is also giving it out because >> that that Yeah, but that would be that would be problematic. I'll explain to you if you if if today's pur your dollar and also the n's giving it so you missed pur giving matim it has to be that you already you gave if you didn't give it yet it's very nice that your is also but you missed it because pum is so just to be go through mish one or two pur itself we spoke about is Is it is it can you give before PM as long as the Mabel gets it on PM? Let's for a brief moment let's just speak about PUM itself and the timing of Matanim. There's a lot more to speak about the amount PM itself. So the pkim say better not to give matana at the end of the day because the point of matanim is for to be able to prepare for his sudo to have the to have for purim and that's why the primagum says that really you could even give matana before purim but to give purim five minutes before that's not really accomplishing what matana Mikra migill though of course you should listen to the mgilla in the beginning of the day but for whatever reason it didn't work out say the if a person listens to the migill finishes the migill by the he was it's if it's as we're speaking now if it's just a okay so you could do five minutes before but if it's a for you shouldn't give it So when is the best time to give matim? We we see that giving it before purim is a shila. So obviously the is to give it throughout any time throughout purum. You can give it any time throughout the day. Lamisa a lot have the mic to give it after shakas and the reason for that is like what the mavram says the mav himself actually doesn't speak about matanas he says theu in the morning of kaill you should have a mind on the other mitzvah the mitzvah suda and others say We spoke about it in the previous year in the night. He doesn't bring many say that it goes on as well. also and after the after the alo some speak about that could be you're not supposed to eat before though if you're going to sit down to eat a suda right away in the morning you can give matana afterwards because you're not supposed to eat before a mitzvah but eating the suda in the morning some people sat down for a suda right away that's also one of the mitzvah so is you eating before a mitzvah by eating also doing a mitzvah. >> What' you say? >> Ding. >> You can't eat before D. That's because you can't eat before. But yeah, no, but it's one of the four myths of you're saying that you you could eat. One of the is the suda. You should give here some give it soon after ding. Good before you eat the suda. If you eat the before and it's a separate could you eat before the just to know about it but the is to give before it's born I don't think that's from but that's another opportune time lastly interesting he brings in the time when to give it is after Why? Because in the sed is as a matter of fact in the beginning when was in the mitzvah he was only three he made it a yam and there was no matis of yim later when y wasn't a scabble it was added on mat of yim but says to one should give matanus after because the seder It says just to conclude we just passed Zion Adar the yard site of Mosher Rabenu Hman didn't know that it was also the day of Leas Mosha The y the the medish says you go through the whole medish but during the eloi went to the avis and he says clalius rolls in sakon and the obvious asked what happened and they said okay if this is what happened what could we do so then alovi went to mobenu and alovi says you saved clalius throughout the midbra many times the medish mo Elon told Mosher Rabenu, "We need your help." So Mosher Rabenu said, "I somebody in the door that I could work with." And Elon said, "Yes, Morai." And so Moshenu said, "Go tell Mai to Davin. I'm going to d we're going to d together." As they medish because told him what happened. aloponim like the it's brought that the nest of purim happened was maspel the y says mohen was born Zion I have to bring in this it's about bris I'm a so it's but the y says the says that mobane was born in Zion which when's the brisal says has a lot in the says that the bris was what does it mean was it or was it he himself explains and he says that was mo like it's born is not he was born shabas mo it's Bris was the bris was was the the purim was it happened on the days of the bris of Mosherenu was mobu was also mobu was okay so had this comment I just want to bring out this is the the the punchline over here in kitser Al-Sh brings from the alb from theim I didn't see him in the bag inside but he brings their bag that was the mitzvah of musim to give musa because the nest happened was the one who because of Mosherenu we had the nest of purim you should give matis of yim the lash I didn't see but how the brings it. Have a wonderful Shabas.