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Maseches Yoma: Seder Hagralas Haseirim on Yom Kippur - Introduction to this Avodah
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Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner at Bais Medrash Ohr Chaim Morning Kollel
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As we begin the winter's man continuing
makis yum the fourth peri
throughout the winter's man we're going
to learn till we finish the
beginning of the peric
speaks about the goal if you don't mind
just to close the door please the
beginning of the go the beginning of the
per
speaks about the goal that happened on
Yam Kipper.
It's nice. We're continuing. We had
sukus. We're continuing into the winter,
bringing it alongside
people's lips are still
talking.
They say that certain bal
when they used to give
still
they still used to speak about their
schmooen were taking along to take along
what we got over l and tish.
So the Mishna speaks about the go that
happened in the B mikdash.
There were two
oneas
one and one zel made a goal before going
into the proim
of the that happened in the mdipper.
We'll see how much we could cover on
that. If not there'll be a part two.
Let's first begin with a general
question.
brought
the end of
the name of the
goyel bash. You're not allowed to make a
goyel.
You're not allowed to make a goyel on
shabas. These are a few reasons the real
himself says that it's like
mechar
on shabas. So you now that I make a
gorill it looks like making a sale
though a guru is not a sale. A gorill is
you're giving people doesn't have to
even be that they paid for it. You're
giving out prizes and you make a raffle
who should get it. We'll soon see also
what type of goal but go looks like me.
Some say the reason is is that if you
make a go, you might come to measure
because you're making a raffle who gets
this and who gets that. Let's say these
different pieces, you want to see which
is the biggest piece of meat and whoever
whoever wins first gets the biggest
piece. You might come to measure the
says that you might come to write maybe
write the tickets to people's names.
So let's hold off with the technical in
the type of because we're going to soon
see these different types of we're not
going to spend the whole she on that
because we're not learning we're
learning
but to that was done on how did they
make the
is to make a no we just started if you
just learned the first line of the
Mishna they made a guru how to make
could go on chabas.
So
there could be a simple answer a simple
answer
to the
mdash there's no
are not applicable in the mdash
different reasons
but there's no is not applicable if if
that's the case then that would be a
simple answer
so the making a
mdash. is no isuri not applicable in the
ba mdash
that's not such a simple answer because
the m says
that
is only
from afterita before you don't say mdash
means
is yes applicable so the go that was
done in the ba mdash Yum kipper for
theim
the two carbon the lashem and the lazel
that was before the
so let's leave this terret on the side
of mikdash actually these
are a whole list
has a whole list and this of mikdash
different exceptions and different
so we're going to leave it on the side
so let's leave out the ter
migdash and we're going to go with a
different question that the go it's
normally between two people and here
we're talking about
>> two animals. So, so the emmesis we're
going to in a couple of minutes we're
going to get to a little bit more in
detail of what type of goal but only
briefly because we're learning but I
want to it's not a here but it's
important what you're saying to define
what type of goal we're talking about
let's say
you're going to come to right so what's
the difference if the raffle is between
two people or
the raffle is between two animals which
is which is you're going to come to
write. You're going to come to write.
It's you're saying maybe it's not only
when it's relevant to a person.
The terror says
that this goal that we're learning about
is
the Tory says to make this
in par
says to make the gro. Now wait a second.
This is not the answer yet. We're going
to see it's not just because the Tyra
said these many times that say
not to do it next year.
And even though the Tory says to
blowifer, the say not to blow.
Now the says, so let's first get clear
the the
learning about is
now really what type of is what's
what does goal mean? that it's user.
Go means that you have a box or a
mixture and you take out one ticket is a
winner. Another ticket is a winner.
Just to put a a paper down on one
lashem and one lazel,
that's not called a goal. That's putting
a paper a down on each animal and saying
this is this is so who said when the
says
maybe it means put one ticket on one
carbon and it's and one is who said to
take out from a mixture just that
to make a goal is a mixture just to put
a ticket you have it's written over here
and you put it down and you have and you
put it down that's not a that's so when
the says maybe it's only to put down on
the two animals who said it's to take
from a mixture.
So who even said
that this that we're learning now the
peric to bali that there was a box with
a mixture and you took out from the
mixture who even said that the tora said
to do this goal that we're learning
about
right here in the beginning of the per
spells it out clearly that these
to make the guru to have a calf like
we're going to learn in the garra and
the gar is made out of
this mixture and take out from the
mixture tickets
from a kahan from a kahan the kahan says
I'm just going to take out a few words
of the kahan the kanim says
the says the later later
Allah of the scan says
when thera says not the we just said
before
the next thera says
means it came up
you took out a ticket from a mixture
his explains that he says that it means
to say is the Tyru wants that you should
take out from a mixture two tickets. one
of the tickets you put on the right you
put lash you if you hope that it's the
right one is lashem you put one on uh
one of them is lashem one is zul yes he
says also there's another den another
den besides taking out the ticket
there's also a den to put the ticket
down on the carbon on the animal which
he says is not and it doesn't have to
stay on the animal
you just put it on the animal and that's
that's it cuz when you take out a ticket
if the right ticket is lashem that's it
you're done. So then you know the right
soy is to put it down. So good also to
put down but
is to take out and then what we said
before the
also to put it down on the side but
that's on the side of these two these
taking out and putting down on the
carbon but it's
to take out to take out from a mixture.
Okay. So even though it's a dindai rice
to take out from a mixture maybe the
the
said you're not allowed to make a raffle
is applicable over here also just like
the said not to take
on shabas and not to shake lul on
shabas. So maybe maybe also not to not
to make the goal
on yam kipper.
So for this the ter is it's a
it's already a but the speaks about it a
lot
co actually has a whole safer countress
on this on this
that when the tyra says something
what does it mean
says that these
is then
if the says that a certain type of
ribbus is mut
would not come and say no we want that
it should be the spells out clearly that
it's mut then the answer says
thera clearly was m
The Taz
is in many in a few places. The TA is
inash
says
not to blow when
you might carry the to the
to ask Shilus how to blow is the
shila is
maybe we should not blow shifer on
rashashana ever why cuz there's Another
raon that's not relevant to the sheen of
shabas. It's the make noise to blow clay
because you're going to come to beak and
so and that's also every if you're not
allowed to blow you're not allowed to
use instruments cuz you're going to come
if it's going to be broken to fix it.
What it say
>> is considered an instrument
>> that's why even rashan itself if not for
the kus you're also not allowed to
you're not allowed to blow a onus shabas
y so the same way you're not allow to
blow it on on shabas on y you shouldn't
be allowed to blow on rashash also
it's different because if you're going
to say that we can't blow and rash
you're going connected what the tyra
says the don't want to go against what
the Tyra says. If the say that you don't
blow on Russash, so even though the Tyra
says to blow on Russash, so you're
blowing,
we blow, we're going to blow, by the
way, the next two years, it's
the next two years. So we'll blow again
afterwards. But if you say never to
blow, so then you're being what the Tory
says to blowifer.
And with that the Taz says,
[clears throat]
"Sorry I'm going offline. It's a little
but the Taz asks why do we ever do a
bris on
why didn't you say
these whole these many
but what's the question?
We're not being the mitzvah.
A baby that's born on Sunday, you'll do
it the next Sunday. It's mashi
Monday, Tuesday, any day of the week.
Just not shabas. Shabas. If the baby's
born on Shabas, he'll push it off the
Sunday cuz you might come to go to the r
how to do the breast to ask about the
ismill the knife.
The Tory says,
it's like the Torah says to do the bris
on Shabas. If the gonna say not to do
the bris, it's the being
the being
what the Tory says. So maybe like the T
says,
they don't want to be
these another example of the T. And the
reason here I'm bringing this t this
example is because it's interesting the
taz actually says it a little bit
different speaking in in in
this himself quotes in he says I also
speak about it in
here he says
before
and later the says
didn't want to be here the says
don't have the ability to be
these are another but this himself
doesn't quote
says and these are another
this is talking about why didn't say to
stay away from from the fact that's
it should even beer
the Tyra says it's let it also
You know why?
>> [clears throat]
>> to be the says the says in par
that
you could be in the says clearly you
could be in so didn't want to be
something that's in the I'll call upon
him something that's in the didn't want
to be or they cannot be
the says mafurish
to make this
We're going to be learning about it how
you did the
so we should know that the
we'll seem
next week to what extent is it avoid but
thera says clearly to make a guru thera
says clearly to make a gor so even
though to make a guru on shabas and yam
here thera says clearly just like the
says clearly make a bris on shabas
The Tyra says clearly certain rigus is
mut. The Tyra says clearly make this go
on
the before [clears throat]
very rightfully started taking apart
the definition of goal. how the goal
[snorts]
went when did the [clears throat]
it's something that to spend time and to
go through thoroughly but I just want to
bring one more gur that's actually
relevant in the B mikdash that may even
be on kipper
and with this we'll try to take apart a
little bit more
the definition of go that's asser
what other what What was the goal that
happened on a daily basis at the Ba
Mikdash?
>> Very good. The kahanim it's not called a
goal. It's called a pious
but also who does certain avoidas
>> there's a difference between a go and
>> so let's see not of how they did it
maybe even yes but let's see in a minute
there was a pious a raffle a goal every
day in the bdash
who did certain avoid
so
it's not so paret that the pious
happened on kipper not Because
of pious, you know how to do it on on
we spoke about a full
of every day
was a that the had to do it
for sure the
god did but what's about the regular
avoidance the carbon for an example
regular avoidus the daytoday avoidance
was that also
already was able to do it.
If they made this pious, if the co had
to do every single there was no pious,
there was no raffle because the kayen
did everything. I the mission says it.
So they already explain that the mission
is saying it because that was what was
done every day but not maybe maybe a
little bit of a maybe because really
it's brought throughout
but yeah it's because that that was
every day.
So if you learn like
if you learn that the didn't do the then
we have a question
and there was a pious the was always
allowed to do the avoid any avoid
but if he didn't have to do the other
avoid there was a pious like the Mishna
says so how did they do that pious is
and the Emma says even if the did
everything oner pious the sh is every
shabas pashious they made this p is
every day of the week including shabas
how did they do it so the mo
explains and he says like this
this that a pious asser is when
everybody gets it's just a question who
gets a bigger piece who gets a smaller
piece. But let's say if there's a raffle
a pious
in certain shoos only one person says
kadesh.
So shabas morning these three people
that need to say kadesh you make a
raffle
such a raffle you're allowed to such a
raffle you're allowed to if everybody's
getting not going to go into it but the
upon was split people got that's a
separate discussion but that would be
that everyone got the
everybody got there were two tickets
everybody was a winner by
Everybody was a winner. You're not
allowed to make a raffle on Shabas and
Yam said you're allowed to do it. You're
allowed to mash
over here that it's the the question is
who's the one to do with it that you're
allowed to do and brings from this they
did piper the pious not everybody was a
winner from all the
few people they got the job that's
even
that it's says
it's only mut Without tickets, you can't
you can't have tickets. Raffle tickets.
You want to make a raffle. You have a
raffle for the kadesh. You have to
figure it out without raffle tickets.
Maybe raffle tickets. You still have the
sameash. You're going to come to write.
But back in the mdash
that was done on every day,
it wasn't done the way the was done. The
was done with two tickets with two
raffle tickets.
So like we explained it's even though
said [clears throat] not the says to do
it
the raffle who gets a certain avoidas
that was done that the toy never said to
make that pious as a matter of fact used
to be whoever came first didn't the toy
doesn't require that so that's you
wouldn't be able to do it now such a
type of pious is a p is only for certain
people to wed
And as we said, it's not it wasn't done
through wasn't done through tickets was
the stuck out their fingers.
That's why it was
next week. We're going to go in more
into the
just one or two things we're going to
talk about.
the the two tickets came out
um one in his right hand the co's right
hand one in the left hand I mean the
these but
says
so the question is
f upon me office
instead of sticking in both hands was a
small box not
Stick in one hand, take out one, put it
on the right, stick in your right hand
again,
take it out, and put it on the left.
You're not going to do that puzzle, the
smo,
>> that's considered a void.
>> We're going to speak about it next week,
but just to open up a little bit. Today,
we only spoke about the gorill bashabas.
I wanted to like just open with one one
nuda. So how how could you do basoil?
So the parafa says we just finished
saying now that the toyra says that you
should pick both
if you take one ticket out and you put
it down on the right let's say and
hopefully is item kas
you don't have to anymore take out the
second ticket. Maybe you want to put it
down on the on the left saw ear, but you
don't have to take it out anymore. Why
don't you have to take it out? Cuz we
know already that the left one is not
whatever the right one fell out to be.
Now we know what the left one is.
There's no way out. There's no way out
to do it differently. Therefore, the the
you had to do the
he had to put both hands in
one ticket put on the right, one ticket
put on the left. If you put the right
and put one ticket, you don't you don't
have to anymore take out another ticket,
put it on the left. We know already what
the left is.
However, this is and with this I'm going
to conclude this is
true clearly. You put both hands in and
you take out the two tickets. But maybe
the part two we explained before in the
terra kahan there's one part of taking
out the tickets and then there's another
part of putting it down on the sim the
first part for sure has to be bismil it
has to be bismile because if you don't
do a bismil you don't have a gur but
once you took out the two tickets this
hand you put down on the right your
right hand on the right maybe says the
After you finish putting your right hand
on the right, take the ticket from your
left hand, put it in your right hand and
put down with your right hand on the
left saw.
So maybe the second part of the gyro
maybe you should have to put down with
your right hand once you took out
already. So it's clear like we said even
the second part is if you took out the
right is whatever the right is the left
is whatever the left. So on the right
hand, the right hand you could put down
the right and take from the left and to
the right and put down on the left.
It sounds to do this because then you
have but
says
so
both at the same time you have to you
could say make put it or maybe
both at the same time. So that's why
what's in your right hand, the ticket in
your right hand should go on the right
soyear and the right carbon and the the
left on the left carbon. Please be
superic about it on the part two. But
for sure on the part one the guru itself
says the office you need to stick both
hands in and each hand takes a ticket to
be continued hashem. Have a wonderful
shabas.
She has.