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MASECHES BEITZA & PARSHAS KORACH – HAFROSHAS TRUMOS UMAASROIS – SHIUR KLOLI
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much of this week's staff
is trumus. We're learning
goes through a lot of trumus.
It also happens to be that this week
paras
the Torah lists in this week's parala
and in the mat kahuna we have in this
week's para the matus kahuna of trumus
aer ala
I would like to spend time in this
morning shar as an overview call it a
sheer cl in the of trumism maesters. Now
in the of Trumas before I begin just to
clarify you could learn it for a year
for 3 years we're not going to be able
to cover now in under 30 minutes to go
through all the
and I myself don't know all the
because if you don't live in it's not
you don't know all the
what's
but at least to open up it's some of the
things It's neg
and it's mitzvah.
I'm going to begin going through the mat
trumus. It's all in this week's para not
all the trumers but some of them the
ones that are negated to kahuna from the
kal manus kahuna. The first one is
truma. Truma. You take off truma minra.
The sheer truma. There's no shear. Like
the gammor says,
let's say you have a wheat field. You
could take off one wheat, one one
kernel, one wheat, oneita, one stalk,
and it's enough. And that's truma.
Truma. You give to the kayen. This
week's para
visas
matum
the pik says he give truma to the
vik the p which is not to the but rather
to the ley after you give truma you give
to the ley messer micer you give it to
the ley which we know that's mserish
Meer what's the for meer? Meer is a
tenth. So
even
midon it's one of 40 one of 50. One of
which is more one of 40 one of 50. One
of 60. One of 40. Very good. One of 40.
Good. One of 40. That's giving more. So
a iron ya you give one of 40. A bane is
one of 50. And somebody that's a little
bit so to speak uh iron y iron raw
stingy gives one of 60. That's true.
Meer myerish you give to the ley
and that's one of 10. Now obviously it's
not one of 10 of your whole field
because you already took off from your
field and you gave to the cyan. So
whether if you took off a little bit or
if you took off you gave one of 40 one
of 50
whatever you're left with if you're left
with a 100 tons of 10 tons go to the
lady that's my
next which is not in what the is the the
farmer gives but important to note these
trumas messer which is a den for the ley
it's not for the farmer for the ley the
ley got meer he 10%. So let's say there
was 100 tons of tu he got 10 tons of
tua. From that the ley gives chumaser to
the coen. So from the 10 tons that he
got he gives one ton to the coen. So we
have truma which
micer
which is to the ley is 10%.
The lady gives trumasmeister
and that's also 10% of what he has
what say
meer is 10%. Yes, I said differently.
No, it is 10%. The 10% of the Torah
actually calls it
the week's para. Yeah, it's not. It's
messer. It's 10%.
It's negated bisman.
Maybe we'll get to it at the end a
little bit, but just to point out.
So really bisman we just take off a
little bit because we anyways don't give
it to the we anyways after we dump it we
can't use it but shumaser there's no
trumus 10% yes 10% the ley takes off 10%
to give to the co
yes very good well asked yes for most of
the denim almost all the denim you're
asking if it has the same denim Truma
says truma yes it's called truma and for
kamat all the denim it's the same for
the basic denim for sure but even other
denim the lamb we'll get to it also the
raash says nearly by a certain thing he
says nearly that it's the same because
usually trumaser and and truma are the
same have the same denim even other
denim as well why is it
why is basically the same regular so
it's really asking Why is it 10% a year?
It's a good Shila. Good shil. Why is it
10%? It's different than Truma. And
we'll get to that as well. I'm not going
to answer you why is it 10%. That's what
the wants. That's avive. But
interesting, we're going to see the
speak about when it's hash. They so one
of the ask we'll get to it, but just to
answer your question, why is it a
different sheer? Do say it's hash.
Maybe it should be hook to say that also
should also be a so that say it can't be
because the Torah says
so that's that's the clear very good is
bringing it up this just to get the
basics the clear clarity truma messer
and trumas micer
there's another another micer which is
messer sheni messer sheni is not This
week's para is in two places
the says
you take off my what do you do with the
so the says you give it to the
it's not in this week's par because it's
not you don't give it to the what does
it mean you give it to hashem so there's
another to understand the in par the
says
which means
the dinners you have to eat a new so it
is the fruits are kadesh they're
Hashem's fruits and the gave it to the
farmers to eat but they have to eat a
new
of course you live somewhere far away
and to bring all the fruits till it gets
there it'll be rotten so thera gives the
idea you
could be the kadusha of the pis onto
money and for money back when you come
to your shalam to buy fruits
and that's my shi however there's
another p and this is in par
the says
the says in the third year
explains
one messer.
So sashi explains the third year there's
no messer only my because the says la
but instead of my mi these myeri which
is also 10%. So the third year and the
sixth year instead of giving instead of
taking off my sh and eating you give my
ani
so it's very clear we have truma you
give to the kenra noon one of 40 50 60
you have messer which you give to the
ley you have the ley gift gives to the
ken trumis messer then you also have
either micer sheni which is years one
two, four and five and you also have
years three and six. You have micerani.
So we know now what the matonis are.
Now let's move on to see what do you
have to give trumasers from.
I'm just going to jump to just if you
only listen to this parton
everything is
when I say everything I mean fruits and
I mean vegetables the Rambam says
clearly in peric everything is
however
what's
so let's take a look in this week's para
the in this week's para called
yeetser
is is uh oil
of wine
and grain
the here and the other places in the
says you know what's
grain the mean
oil and wine
so what's about everything else any
other fruits
The Rambam
Rambam that it's true that says these
three, but the Rambam holds all fruits
of not vegetables but fruits. Fruits.
However, this
is a a lot of argue
in many places in Russia
and other argue and say that is only dog
on
a grain
and
are oil and oil and wine.
However,
in these three, there's another
it's two places
and I think it's
says that you know what
not only no other fruits but even init
only Wine and oil is not grapes and
olives mean when the says are oil and
wine. It's literally not the oil that
comes from olives which means olives and
grapes only oil on wine.
The Ramban explains with this. The Tory
says
meaning to say is you have to bring
says from is referring to why
because only once it's small once it's
full
is referring to true.
So Rashi says I don't understand why is
referring to Trumis.
I understand
is is full of what's
have to do with trueis
says
you know what is tears
tears is liquid. So trumus is only from
only from the liquid. Of course he's
dogan also but the liquid
wine and oil are not grapes and olives
but
why why do we say by dog as well?
What's your question? Why do we say by
dog as well? that only liquid. You're
asking liquid should also dog seemingly
dogun is is is grain so has nothing to
do with liquid. You can maybe make a
liquid out of it.
What says?
So okay so you're asking like this maybe
first of all you're asking maybe dogon
should also have to be liquid. So what
type of liquid that's you're asking so
you're saying I have you're saying you
have alcohol. So first of is not coming
from the oh very good meaning to say is
I don't think that's called exactly let
me explain oil and wine that's the fruit
itself exactly the alcohol
people that don't sell one of the
reasons you could sell is because it's
considered z which means it's not really
the fruit itself it's not the doggon but
I think even a little bit of a simpler
answer to what you're asking maybe that
should also have to be liquid. The Torah
says dog. Dogen is grain. You may be
able to make a liquid out of it.
The Torah says clearly liquid. Now when
the Torah says that Ramban says it's
referring to liquid, meaning to say is
because a lot of Truma is from liquid.
But the Raan's is that if you could you
have to give Truma from grapes and from
oil. Why is Truma called liquid? You
could give it from liquid. Seemingly
there are certain trums that you can
only give from liquid. That's the
Ramban.
Many rishum argue many the rishim that
argue on this Ramban and say that no
they agree partially to the Ramban that
if the grapes and the olives are made
for oil then you only
when it's oil you can only take chumasis
when it's oil and wine but grapes that
you make for food to eat the grapes that
are planted to eat and the and the
olives that are planted to eat those
as grapes and olives.
So we have over here so far three
in
the first is the raam that holds all
fruits of
only oil and wine and the third sheet is
it depends if you eat the grapes and
grapes and if you don't eat it it's for
wine and oil then only wine and oil
fourth
they say is that the are the ones
fourth. So we have over here like this.
We began this year with going through
the different matas. We just went
through now what is
born on every fruit and every vegetables
every fruit and every vegetable.
However,
is it all fruits? Is it only wine and
oil? Even olives and grapes.
You ready to take Trumus amus? You know
what to take from and we already
explained the shir.
Could a person give trumis um the whole
thing? the person he has a lot of
different fields and he figured you know
what I don't even want to be busy with
the food I want to give the whole thing
to the cen could he take his whole field
and give to the ken the field then the
answer is no
you can't give everything to the kayen
just like by yeah
once a month the big aa
and you get so inspired instead of
taking a little piece you say you know
what I want the whole thing should be
kala
It's not it's not mishnas and truma
mishnas and other places the dinner is
also is truma truma means to take off
you have to take off from something else
that's true as opposed to giving the
whole thing kala the whole thing truma
is not going to work so you have to give
something you could give more than micer
let's say trumasmeer or anything you
want to give you could give more but you
can't give the whole thing 99% or 49% so
they're taking something from something
very good you want to What's the shear?
How you could go overboard, but what's
the shear of overboard? That's a good
question.
Not taking this from this. You're taking
this. Lama the Mishna says, "Good. Good.
You're asking." Very good. So, what's
the sh How much you need? There has to
be a sheer nicker left over. In other
words, you don't have to take off that
most is left. But you need to take off.
So, as long as you leave something,
you're taking off. Even if you're taking
90% and leaving 10% is to be a sure
nicker if you leave a dot. So then it's
not that you're taking off from
something else.
Another important den to bring up over
here which is
also last week's we didn't speak about
it. It's a shar for itself but an
interesting concept. What happens
if you're not going to eat the fruits?
Do you have to take off chuma? You're
not going to eat it. is true mo only
when you eat it means because you're
going to eat it for whatever reason
you're not eating it for whatever reason
you're not eating the fruits you're not
eating it selling it what you no if
you're selling it so then it's someone's
going to eat it someone has to take off
chumis very good
point
uh do if you so if you're selling it
someone's using it someone's eating it's
not eating it let's just think offand
quickly An example, you got let's say
these bugs. Bugs infested the whole
thing. You're not eating it. It's not or
you just you're not eating it.
Do you have to take off trueers?
Rashi Rashi and Gen I'll just read the
Lion. Rashi says
you're only to take off if you eat it or
if you sell it. Like what you said, if
you sell it, you have to would see that
if you don't sell it, if you don't eat
it, you're not to take offers.
This is a
it's a it's a whole discussion.
There's a big about it and how to learn
rashi bigger
the all over all over the place if you
if you're not
it's not so common it's not so uh
but the den is an important den
is the sed
we're going now the we mentioned the d
if you could take the whole thing off
not take off bal if you're not going to
eat
is
true.
So the answer is it's absolutely
the says
he's alive
to take off not in the order. However,
if you do take off, it's
you're not let it do it. But like the
Mishna says if you take off
we say it also in in vidus you do at the
end of the third and the sixth year. So
the polic says
what's
saying I did everything I took of true I
took off my everything I did.
Rashi explains that I took it off an
order means if you take off the shika
sidron that you're not it's alive
giving different amounts to different
people know different amounts to the
people
if we do it out of order different
people they get different amounts
so you're right about the amounts really
a good point and it's a discussion but
it is like that clearly that let's say
you take off even the you take off to
the lady before the cayenne ju just an
example what would be you took off nicer
10% before the cayenne so the cayen
doesn't lose out on the truma you have
to calculate how much it would have been
anyways very good 100% meaning even if
you're going to go shella sidron it's
not going to be on the cost of anybody
you're going to have to calculate what
would have been how much if you do it on
what the amount would be but if you do
it and it's still it's a person's even
alive but it's
this is clearly in this week's staff
one could take
which means you don't have to say
you could take off trumis
but what's about do you have to actually
take off the trueus
or could you and just have in mind for
an example
I'm not going to get into it but even
the whole I see I was going to go into a
little bit but it's very interesting if
a person goes terrol and you're not sure
what the kash some people rely on a more
kautus that you don't rely on and you're
afraid there's no true mismises he's way
out of how to do it taking everything
off so you can even do it
which means you're sitting at someone's
house. You could have a mash, but do you
have to actually take off? It's a big
sha if you have to take off. But let's
leave the on the side. Even always when
you take off, you have a 10,000 100,000
tons of tu. So you have in mind you want
to take off, but could you have in mind
that I want all the t on the right on
the right side is t. Do you have to
actually make a russa
about it? Gomorrah says, "But Rashi says
you put you could have a mind from one
to the next place."
The over argues that the Rajba says,
"No, no, no, no, no. You can't just um
look and have a mind and that's all
done. You could have a mind that you
want to be mafish as opposed to saying I
raise you truma but you have to take off
truma you have to take it off
who mentioned before of truma I forgot
maybe you about of truma and trumas
micer is the same so the rajbasic if
this didn't what the rajba says that you
have to truma means you have to
literally take off truma the rajbasic is
it also by trumas micer or maybe only by
truma but you have to literally take off
Truma and the Raja says veneer
since Truma and Truma are the same for
this also it's the same
meaning to say is for more or less
everything it's the same the
something that the Rambam says also I'm
forgetting that all the Rambam also says
something because they're the same it's
the same then also
a side thing there's a You have to do
anything besides Trumicer or good to
know all the other things.
I'm almost sure that only Trumas Meer
cuz everything else was huh already even
what he gets.
I'm not a Ley on his own field is a
farmer. But what you when you ask you're
asking the Ley that got his matana from
the farmer. So what does he have to do
with that? It's it's pretty serious that
he has to take it off. It's the same
like truma. You can't eat it.
He has to give it to the client as
opposed to let's say my or let's say my
what they actually do
says since we don't know who you have to
be because also you have to take off
from the trumaser but you just keep it
miserish when the lady has
Yeah. He has to give trumaser. I don't
think he gives anything else. I think
it's trueer.
There's another den. It's a mus. But the
gummor over here only brings one our but
important to note that it's only one and
we actually don't pass like that.
Could you take off? It's
because
it's just take off whatever you take
offer
if you could take our actually says you
could
argue
and it's very interesting
says something very interesting from the
the
No, this is that's the guy the next
butus also says about being machish. We
want to know if true or true says that
we're makish. Yeah. Well, we had earlier
that true were it's the same. So again
these are
we say we don't take means to estimate.
So if you have to take off 10% it's 10%
not figuring it out looks like 10% you
have to something that you weigh you
weigh something that you measure cubic
however you measure that's what you have
to take off
these that you take off something has to
be close by these many what defines
we're not going to go into there could
be 10
but the concept of is that when you take
off you can't take off from here to
somewhere else has to be local.
I think I gave once a to about it close
by within a box. What's
an interesting sh also where do you
learn? You learn this week's paru.
But interesting
everything needs
but over here. How's that possible?
How's that possible? The min is right
here and you say over here by us by you
don't need it.
So
brings to me this thing is very
interesting. Ty is also over there. Tyus
brings says usually in all places you
have a D here and you learn it elsewhere
besides by min that it teaches
everywhere else needs to be but here by
truma doesn't have to be minimuk
so just to conclude
mish
30 seconds there are dim that is neaya
That's the fruits. First of all, number
one, it has to be
has to be ripe. Obviously, these
different
for different fruits, but it has to be
ripe. There's another then it has to
bear as opposed to if it's in the field
and you didn't finish yet, it's not
there when you can eat it. And lastly,
also has to be roy. In other words, we
went through the whole and I'll make a
quick we we went through the or we went
through what's the the are what fruits
are we went through are very basic but
all this is still only when the fruits
are ready are
many different if you don't have that
it's also not
have a wonderful shabas