Making Tea On Shabbos - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

[Applause] [Music] um [Music] like to welcome everyone to today's share from harajuku smith on the locals of making tea and shabbos absolutely sponsored at 718-851-8651 today's suggest was like many of the sugars began with a few random shy lists making tianjabis if you forgot to make tea cents you make it on shabbos with a cliche and instant tea and adding honey and then i realized as is always the case it's really one year site that we have to clarify before we could approach this intelligently and really it's the site of tea now the embassies will see that tea is basically just a few hundred years that it's been used in america and europe but it's specifically about tea as opposed to almost any other food which makes it a very exciting very challenging question because really it's even if you're not a tea drinker but it brings us the usaidis of hilkeshavis from a whole different angle and that is the uniqueness of tia let me explain tea as in tea leaves grow on a bush actually it's an evergreen shrub it's not too high it's really higher than a bush in other words it would be a had a grown fruit it'd be a bear prior eights but it's basically the leaves of a bush that is put in water and of course gives out the tea flavor now i did some you know studying to figure this out it's interesting there are so many different types of teas and different varieties of teas but it's all how you process the various tea leaves but to make a long story show what's that what's important for us that tea is not found in the gemara or the reshainim or the sakhanarak it became popular in the late 1600s that's why i understood that's why you know the american revolution was the boston tea party which was just about a hundred years later but what's challenging is you're not going to find the gemara and resharing them with but today it has again many many different childhoods how do you apply how el kashab is tea but what makes it a little more challenging because the prima goddamn and many ukrainian from that and that's kufa do speak about tea but if you'll notice they always speak about a la tea tea leaves now that's another important bit of information that we have to clarify the way tea was always made until approximately the 1940s you had tea leaves and you put it in water and you made tea that was basically the way tea was made there was a certain way of making tea the certain kaylee that they used but basically it was the actual tea leaves that were used today we have tea bags and as we'll see has a very big impact in our locker but this is a typical tea bag and inside of it is no longer tea leaves like it used to be as you could see this is ground chopped tea leaves which also will have an impact on aloha now someone told me it's interesting how tea bags came about was by mistake like many other inventions someone wanted to market various tea flavors and he didn't want to give out a whole big box of them so he gave out small samples in a small bag and people took the bag and put it into the hot water and say that's a good idea i don't have to struggle with tea leaves and taking it out do you drink the tea the tea leaves goes into your mouth so by mistake they started making actually in 1908 that's when the mistake came about but it took many years until they 1944 the rectangular bag that that we used today was marketed but in the tea bags themselves is interesting there are two different types typically we have this is a paper of course highly porous there is a tea bag that has holes in it micro holes in it and we'll soon see the impact of that but basically the tea bag today is very different than the tea leaves of the pie skin and then you have instant tea and you have decaffeinated tea so we have quite an agenda but what rabbi said i think the aside of today which is the challenge of today and tea is different than almost every other food because every other food you cook it before you eat it if you want to cook eat it cooked you cook it right so when you have a cooked food on jabba's we have halaches think about it tea is almost never cooked talagically because very very few people take tea leaves and put it into a cholum pot and cook it how do we typically make a tea so you take water from an urn and you put it into a hot cup and then you add the tea bag so and the best this is a cliche don't forget the cup is a cliche some people on shop especially they put it into one cup and the second cup so you're putting a tea bag into a kalish lishi is that considered bishop in a cliche so basically the problem is the challenge of today is that our bishop our tea is not even halacha bishop many people still use the china what is the chinese they put water from the urn into a china and they add the tea bags into the chinese again it's a cliche i'm not talking about the non-jewish world typically make a tea like we make a tea you put water into a hot cup and you add a tea bag okay maybe a little fancier you put the tea bag first and you add water to it so it's irre irrecreation but typically tea is not cooked so i could have one of two conclusions either will say that tea somehow gets cooked even in a cliche in your specie or maybe i'll say no you got it all wrong tea is not my bushel it's a good tea and enjoy it gazunte but it's not and then afghanis will be the rest of the shia so sit up or sit back and enjoy the mishkan shabbis and the end of death members basically what that means is i'll give you a perfect muscle a woman made a a soup a chicken soup like cover chabas she forgot to spice it and you cannot serve spice unspiced soup it's it's a tray it's won't go so you want to add spices but uh everybody knows you can't have spices on choppers as bishop so the mishka says not only an allowed to add spices to the pot of of soup on the fire even if you took the pot off the fire so now you have a pot of hops hot soup that's not on the fire you can add spices why not i the pot is not on the fire so rashi says the key word the clerishing calls manchester isaiah so to put that very simply and this is something that we have to use so let's get this straight the par on the fire is the clear reshape an urn is a clear reason but a pot on the fire is the clear reason and the mission is telling us that a clerician has the capabilities of cooking even off the fire so even if you take the pot off the fire you can add the spices it's the same clear region and evidently the fact that it was on the fire it absorbed heat from the fire it is still fully capable of cooking in aloha but notice the mixtures you can't even put in spices spices don't get cooked easily but evidently a clear region could cook even spices because it has the effect from the fire even though it's not on the fire any longer so therefore it would make a lot of sense to say if someone takes tea tea leaves or tea bags and puts it into a clear region that would be bishop or iso because if it cooks spices it cooks tea bags porsche and the mr burns if cotton lamb tess when he speaks about tea he says pause it that if a person cooks tea leaves again he didn't have tea bags but tea leaves the maizet is a skeleto now when i learned that it sent the shutter down my spine because very rarely will an erle hait encounter um of bishop because typically our shadows are in muksa and khazora and shahia and but where does mr burr accuse him of istaskela i don't want to touch that but that's nothing great and here we are bishop of tea leave is bishop there isa there has been pasta because the tea leaf is uncooked and you're cooking it what's the shyla so to add tea leaves to a pot on the fire off the fire is bishop the rice but the embassies we all realize that we basically don't do that no one adds tea leaves to a hot pot of soup or even a hot pot of water it's just not done but their boys say we have another important bit of information we have to know for us or in those days as well but today we could see it very clearly you bederra cloud tea leaves and certainly tea bags is not you took the leave off the tree and put it into the hot water the tea leaves had to be treated now i did again i did a lot of research but it's going to get most of it but basically you have to bring out the flavor of a tea leaf and there are so many there's there's yeah there's black tea and this green tea but basically to put it bluntly it's the it's the oxidation process of either limiting or stopping the oxidation process that brings out the flavor of the tea leaf now what that means in simple english is they don't just take the leaf and put it into your hot cup of water they first heat it approximately 100 degrees fahrenheit but they heat it to take out the moisture and that either prevents or limits the oxidation process that brings out the full flavor now whether you understood that it's not negative but the tea leaves are heated in a oven so now we have a great idea since the mice of the tea leaves were once cooked we could say a bishop and you could put even a unused tip leaf into a hot water that's the michigan shabbos cook from hammer days that by adopting your asia dry food ain't bishop so maybe tucker the only is of tea that's high of skila was if you took it off the tree and but you didn't process it but our tea leaves or tea bags today was certainly processed and this seems to be an old taina or an old hetero the binyan seeing and this trip was written tough rage tests over 100 close to 100 and over 170 years ago that's the earl hanes troubasey for simon you died he says i lose my i'm losing a lot of sleep because i see hilo shabbos people make tian shabbas how could we let this go on and they tell me that it comes from china rather the biggest producers of tea of tea for centuries was china and people say that in china they cooked the tea leaves so ambitious she writes back it's shecker it's not true it's not cooked and then it's a schila he doesn't explain anything of the but it's interesting all speaks about tea it's and people say taina shall hevel that it's cooked it's not true he says it if it's cooked and you couldn't sell it uh his lusciousness you couldn't sell a picasso molly like it's sold it's not cooked and the whole thing is a terrible excuse and even the mr brewer and see if cotton lambertes and sharotzian and cotton hey alludes to that people are making because it's cooked but again it was unclear what's going on and people asked i'm looking for bubble mices so then i saw of moisture like bae simmon pay hay and again my research is exactly like her moisture found it because he did research someone asked him this question tea leaves that are beige can we say it's like a bishop so first your premise is wrong because in the best scenario if the tea leaves are heated it wasn't cooked in water it was a fear and yes bishop so the whole premise is faulty but more so says ramosa the fact that it's heated does not make it cooked and her moisture says the biggest side the dinner thing bishop bishop is if the first bishop changed it from raw to cooked but if it's the same after the heating process it's not cooked and moisture brings arya from sherman the kimora has a sheet that is no bishop by shaman even though you cook it to a very high temperature because it's not heating it's changing zuckerberg maisha a tea bag that's heated it's not a used teabag you don't sell used tea bags so the process is done again to stop the oxidation like i explained to you but it's not a cooked tea bag so i would say it's treated but and heated but not cooked you know what an analogy if you want to that is the famous kasha in biology a very troubling question any heirlood knows you're allowed to take a cold piece of chicken from the refrigerator that's fully cooked and put it on the top of the champa or on the side of the black not on the black on the side and you can make it piping hot and bizarre so frag and the vase maya why is that a problem of yes or sleep you're hitting it so it's either fiercely and the aloha says is it bligh blight sorry it's a good question you're making a mistake slight is under fire you're not putting it on the fire you're not up on the fire you're warming it up so you say by default if it's not bissell it's got to be slayer i fear maybe it's none of the above maybe it's warming in other words warming is not cooking or baking so i would say the same thing the tea bags are treated and heated but not cooked if it's not cooked we're back to a raw tea leaf and khashoggi is high of skeleton so that's why all the pie skin say that tea leaves and tea of today is not cooked i'm going to use the word it's a raw tea bag even though the proper word is probably a fresh tea bag because i have to stress that a tea bag is considered raw animal bushel at all but i have the a great idea i will not cook it in a clear region no one does that i'm gonna put the water into a hot cup and then i will add the tea the raw tea bag into that and i have no problems why because cliche knee is not my vagina or i'll even be a little more aggressive i will put the tea bag in to this half cup and pour water from the urn or from the from the kettle on top of it because that's not cliche any longer it's coming out of the clean region so that is basically wrong and i have to explain why it's a terrible mistake for two reasons first of all as we'll soon see the assumption that tea does not get cooked in a cliche in this hot cup is wrong because tea as we'll see is cali a bishop and does get cooked in a cliche but there's another more fundamental mistake we have to understand and that is if i do just this i take a clean cup i put in a tea bag and i pour water from the kettle into this it's fine because it's not clear reason so the truth is you're right it's not clear research because this is clearly shine and this is cliche but the hot water was not first poured into the cup and then you added the tea bag the hot water was poured onto the tea bag and that's called iroi cli rishi you're pouring from a clear recent now iricly resin is what you say in your disney stainless steel it doesn't have the intensity of the cli research because it left the cli reason but it doesn't have the my love of cliche knee because before went into the cliche and the walls cooled it off the hot water hit the teak bag directly and to make a long story short that is what the police can say eerie cleresian pouring from an urn or or a kettle is mavaso at least kade khalifa what it hits on contact the outer layer is cooked right away if you pour hot water from a urn onto a piece of meat it will not cook the whole piece of meat it will cook the outer layer so as far as we're concerned and the way the mojave says that interesting chinese makes a very good point of saying you can't pour hot water onto toblin now tavern as we'll soon see is not cali official it's something that was certainly not hallelujah bishop so in a cliche it's fine but an irregular resign it's also that poor entertainment because even though tavern the cliche is motta but heroic clerishing is us to even be the evid so now we learned the key word eerie clericine is not like a clericin but it's my vascular could they khalifa so i'll say okay it's not so bad it's only a cliffa so not so bad khloe shabbos is bad enough it's a small amount of kilo shabbos but it's a full bishop on the clipper and that's why the mr brewer makes a point of going vita not only cooking tea bags these are their iso but even irritating is also the vassar kade khalifa now the truth is if you pour from an urn straight on to a teabag it's probably a little worse because this era is coming from a clerishing algae or h unlike a kettle you took it off so that's why putting tea bags in clerician or eerie cleave shine is absolutely awesome we'll soon see even with the evidence and if a guy did it it's also awesome to have a no but i have a great idea watch this true if i pour hot water onto a tea bag it's my vascular declife on a piece of meat the outer layer is the cleaver what is the kalifa of today's tea bag in other words when they made a laytay when they use tea leaves so you pour it onto a tea leaf you cook the clifford of the tea leaf which is the same a lot of the rice is like cooking the cleave of a piece of meat but why can't we assume that the tea bag is the kalifa now cooking paper is muta and you gotta pour hot water into a paper cup and the bag is not edible you don't eat the bag so why don't we say that the take it cooks kade khalifa which is the bag and the bag is not bishop and everything else is no longer you imagine khalifa in other words that would be a heter for us that use tea bags as opposed to mr brewer that use our leyte and if you want i'll give you an analogy it seems to be an altitude shaminic because people ask me a child do you have to tail the washing cup from the kitchen i said why do you have a table it's not a clear yeah but when shabbos we want to eat java during the week we want to we want to warm up the baby bottle that we put in the refrigerator let's see it has milk we want to take out the chill so we put the we put the baby bottle into the shizzle and put water from the kettle on top of the bottle everybody seems like you know what i'm talking about this is an altaminig in fact they won't even table the ticket the the washing cup because you don't have to it's not very fashionable but there it works you pour hot water onto a baby bottle it doesn't cook it but it takes out to the chill of the cold milk so the question is on shabbos how could you do that irivajka de clifford the terrorist is right you're cooking the baby bottle gizonta how to cook the bottle the milk doesn't get cooked that's beyond the kalifa however this comparison is obviously not convincing at all because loyami boy if you have a tea bag that we said it has micro holes in it has holes in it so it part of the era is navaso inside not just the outside but even today and to my knowledge that the commercial tea bags today are do not have that those holes it's it's more basically designed that it penetrates but it's not there's no holes but we all can understand that if it works obviously it penetrates and could cook part of the tea leaves on contact especially today's tea bags that don't longer have tea leaf but they have chopped up pieces of tea leaves so that cooks easier than a a a salad tea leaf and that's why the place can say this that today's tea bag if you pour hot water onto it it's and i would add it's not like a plastic baby bottle it's obviously the clefa goes beyond the bag and it penetrates so basically we have to say that the tea bags are no not much different than the tea leaves and erie cleresha is still navajo kade khalifa now one of the heineken poiskon said this the bin yan sian says they say and simon says the same thing i found that hard to believe and you'd see it was written 170 years ago they didn't have tea bags so i looked up the binyan sea and it's a little misquoted but what he says is that today if you have tea leaves one on top of the other it's possible if they're very thin it goes through the first tea lead to the second one so he's saying a bigger finish that some of the even thin tea leaves goes beyond the tea leaf but certainly a tea bag will not stop by just cooking the bag it will cook the tea inside as well so as we see that we don't have a hetero for using tea leaves and or even irrecreation of a tea bag but the ms is let us think of perhaps a better heter and that is i'm going to make tianjabis put hot water into a cup now this is cli shaney and then i'm going to put the tea bag into a second cup now this is a little confusing this is krishi the second cup please so i'll have the tea bag in here and i'll pour from this clicheny onto the tea bag maybe that's an aether what is that irie clicheny oh so the sheila is is iri cliches so this brings us to a bigger story that we once discussed and that is the concept of khalia bishop true the mishna in shabbos cough mohammed bayes says when something could be cooked in a clear sign but it can't be cooked in a cliche except for malia kayoshi and the close hispanian certain type of fish salty fish basically foods don't get cooked in cliche and tasty stuff members has a beautiful hezboi unless the food by nature cooks easily so as far as possible the cliche doesn't have the ability to cook but if you tell me the property of the food is that it cooks easily so even cliche could cook it and the mr gives a muscle coolies a spaniard a certain type of fish spanish mackerel or carp whatever it is that cook that needs very minimal cooking today we brought this to a higher level we eat raw fish called sushi so obviously fish does not need much cooking so the gemara is the mission is saying that cresceni is mutter except habitual which means it cooks easily the question is so which foods are calibration so that's the big problem because the mice uh we don't know which foods are definitely not calibration but we do know that water spices kavlin oil and meat raw meat is not cali abyssal and i'll give you a perfect muscle let's assume that a person had unexpected guests friday night he wasn't expecting them five guests and his representatives don't know what we're gonna do when you serve them someone you say althea the shaminic if you don't have enough soup like sia bissella vasa you'll have plenty of soup fine can you add soup to a hot pot of uh a hot pot of soup can you add water to a hot pot of soup obviously not let's get cold water will get cooked so no problem take the pot off the fire pour it into a serving bowl now the soup is in a cliche and then you could add cold uncooked water i what do you mean bishop there it says water is not calibration and it cannot get cooked in the cliche so add cold water to the pot is also even off the fire but they add to a serving bowl cliche is perfectly mother now this is maybe mohammed but let's say it's not yad nicholas certainly you could add cold water if you want to be more interesting you could add ice cubes if you want same thing there's no bishop in the cliche on water fine now does that apply to adding a tea bag or tea leaf to a cliche knee obviously not especially for us today because as we just explained the patent the uniqueness of a tea bag or tea leaves for that matter is that it it's used almost always in a cliche knee and someone's in a clean specie so obviously they manufacture it and produce tea bags that cook easily in a cliche or clich leasing so isn't that the real candidate to be a cali abyssal and we could even use the lashes of the mishna zoo and again i'm not talking about hey machine and i want to avoid the shabbos so they improvise they make a cliche the typical non-jew you take how does it make tea and watch but i imagine he uses a it puts the water in a hotkey but he puts a tea bag in so the typical tea bag is made in a cliche and it may be cliche haven't you seen waiters put out water into a picture and they pour that into a cup with a tea bag that's cliche ready so if that's the way that tea bags are made and it's does a good job it tastes good obviously a tea bag is a is a kali a bishop so once it's the kalia bisho there's no longer had to have cliche plus this is you're putting a tea bag okay a bishop that is into cliches wait a second but the nishna nothing else the mr said that tavlin is not a kalia bishop you ought to put towel into a cliche so why can't i say a teabag is a tavlin so the answer is very positive a tea bag is not a toddler tovlen the way the place can explain is the spice that enhances the main food the tea bag is the main food the water is not the main thing because you want the tea so the tea bag is the food not the toblin and therefore it's clear in the poi skim that a tea bag is not treated as a toddler in fact you should know that the panama erase was the first in simmons and he and many other players can discuss why we don't make a break of boy priya donna on t because the ick is the tea leaf and it's not even though it grows on a tree but it's not the perry it's a leaf so the broccoli goes down to adam but why shouldn't be a burp i'll say what do you mean but the water is the main part of it but the tea is the main ingredient of it so the the real terrorists that the price can say regarding tea and coffee and beer should be missinus is the thai swiss in brachis says he is soy that on all drinks except for wine we make a shackle neighborhood otherwise beer would be a very mean and bizarre noise and coffee might be a burpee aids and tea might be a very pre-adama the point is that tea bag is the main food it's not a tavern so therefore putting the tea bag into a cliche knee will not be a hat at all it's the same bishop of a collier bishop ah you'll say i'll make it eerie cliche and as i'll have two cups i'll pour the water into this cup and then i'll put the tea bag into a second cup and pour from here into that so that's a little better iri cliche is not cliche but as we'll soon see that could be even krishnishi is a problem but ire cliche is still a problem of bishop and that's why the mr bruce if cotton lambert tess says that basically we do not i'm not makel by a cliche or even an eerie cliche regarding tea what is a big question for people that forgot to make tea sense is fine i won't use clarisha and cliche and eerie can i use the head of krishnishi in other words i'll take one cup fill it up with hot water pour it into a different clean empty cup which is now cliche see and then i'll add the tea bag or tea leaves into the cliche so it's not eerie cliche it is a real cliche so here we come to a very challenging question because it has so many nafkaminas and it's unfortunately not clear in the earlier poi scheme the truth is the starting point is that cliche is they state the mishna except for kali a bishop we treat all foods as a suffocale a bishop except for water and oil and pavlin and meat right it's a homo so the iranian calls it a sufficient so they don't play around with suffolk they're iso but at the end of the day cliche is mutton if it's not kali abyssal and we should have had kali abyssal so maybe we could say okay that's cliche cliche it's just incapable of cooking so anything is multi even kali a bishop however you'll say wait a second if something is kali a bishop and doesn't need the heat of the walls so manuscriptically saying you're cliche issue or cleavage if you tell me you need heat a fire so then it's it's a clear reason but since you do acknowledge that that caliber bissell gets cooked without the cl resign somali shane yoshisi and ray zappella the aside of kali abyssal that we treat everything in the sophocalia bishop was one of the goddardly restrained one of the ballyat twices the urayum it's in the in the and our standard prince is ahmed kuflam it's a very long tickle and simulation but in ahmed kufla madalid the blessing midst and one of the valiant isis says we have to treat all foods like esophageal bishop except that i mentioned and therefore don't put it in cliches the african sleazy so once you tell me that the macaron of clea of kali abyssal is even cliche so how could you be makel with the cliche the bach spells out that since potentially cooking in a cli cheney whoa ravi he goes a step further than the area and the sam saif and jaredes get cooked easily even in a cliche but what's most significant for us is makes a sweeping statement that open your eyes take a tea bag or tea leave in his days put it into a clean sleesy and you'll see it gets cooked in others he's assuming that a tea leaf tea bag is kalia bishop and it gets cooked because you you enjoy the hot tea from the krishnishi and the smear shabbos and ale of salmon gimmel pascals like this i saw in fact this visa shabbos and the secret bishop says even if you're making regarding kali of clich lishi regarding hillary's issa castro's but not on shabbat that's very humble and what i found really zaraya to all this the mr brewer and see if katna mates struggles to find the native you got to make t essence before shabbos and he doesn't suggest making it they certainly had cliche in his time so it seems very clear that if we assume that teabag is an italian bishop which it is then even a cliche and perhaps reveal would be awesome however there is a premier garden in shinjuku in that basically says that it stops by cliche and there's no issue by kris and most emphatically revolutionary dallas seminary and bishop was asked this very question i forgot to make tsm before shabbos can i use a cliche which is very easy to do you have two cups and put the tea bag in sanctuary maisha nothing gets cooked in a cliche the whole assumption is incorrect and tea bags is no different than anything else says that you make a tea and a slicey and it has a tea flavor so must be gets cooked you said that's not true because you take a tea bag and put it into cold water and you let it speed for a while it also has a tea flavor so obviously the fact that it tastes good does not mean that it's cooked now this is the summer of tonight of today's share this is the crux of the issue is saying if you cook tea bag in a clean sleeshi it's cooked remember saying it's not cooked so in other words people that have been drinking tea in a krishnishi haven't haven't had a cooked tea in their lifetime it's like a cold tea that upset and the majoricus is a very fundamental question now this is something you have to realize is negate to this and other styles as well because when moisture is saying that a cliche cannot cook and even in a a tea bag will not get cooked now here is the point that i did do some studying and that is that anybody who was a tea you know has a certain kind of sore fatigue will will be able to tell you right away if this was cooked in hot water or it was steeped in cold water just like my coffee we could understand that you put coffee into cold milk or cold water has a certain taste but it's not that full flavor of being cooked so that's why we are not going to me macria we and again the uranium seems to make no differentiation iron moisture is tiny we do see that people you could even make in cold water it's a different type of tea but it's not that cooked tea so we're gonna have to come out and say that a cooked a tea bag and a cliche sheet will eventually cook it as opposed to a tea bag in cold water that doesn't cook it it just extracts the flavor this has a tremendous impact on a contemporary question people sometimes ask this they are in the mood to have a instant soup on shabbos basically if you know it as a cup very convenient it has vegetables and flavoring and luxian so to make a long story short to add hot water to it right into the cup is irrigation without a suffolk the question is they want to be from and they're going to make a clean use a cliche they'll first put water into a hot cup so now the water is cliche then they'll put water into a bowl and then they'll add the instant soup components production and the vegetables and the spice so you're making it a cliche is that mutton so according i don't see reason to say that it's not if cliche can't cook it's it just can't cook but if you understand the way it's made and this is like a perfect mishna again i want to tell you what the mathias is in there are different variety of soup mixes but the one the one of the popular ones is basically the luxury was never cooked it's thin strips of luxury that was dried but never cooked some of them are deep fried which is bishop but this is not dry it's not deep fried it's dried and it's dried and thinly enough and dried intensely enough that it gets cooked even in cliche water the vegetable part of it are dehydrated but never cooked and the spices typically are cooked i mean it depends which spices but the flavoring soup flavoring was an extract of cooked soup so the flavoring was cooked the spices depending on spices but the luxian pot and the vegetable pot were never cooked so this is a designed mishna zuhig it was made to cook in any clay you want if you put it in a slishi it has the same flavor so according to that moisture taka it would be muta and according to the other paiskim that say that if khali bishop knows no limit but certainly in the cliche if the water is still hot that would be bishop their ice so what's the eight if you forgot to make it t before shabbos you want to have a tea so i'm going to suggest something very interesting a little creative but it seems to be a pretty good idea i will take hot water from the urn put it in this cup and let it sit for a while until it's no longer syllabus i'm not going to make temperature because um let's talk about it's lukewarm water that is definitely not yazi lettuce in other words the water in this cup right now cannot cook anything not even caulia bishop then i will take two tea bags to make it even more and drop it into this lukewarm water and let it sit for an hour to whatever it is now i have kosher the mahadrin made tea cents on shabbos so far so good no one could argue on this this is positive then i'm going to take a clean cup put hot water in and i'm going to add the scents to my hot cup of cliche any water i'll enjoy a what's the problem let's think how did you make that jump you took the t cent that was never cooked and you're putting it into a cliche the answer is the water water is one comp one thing that is not a caulia bissell i could take a a i could ice cube from the freezer and put it into this hot water if it's not yet nervous so why can't i put this freshly made tea sense and i saw take the shabbos bishop and rabbayash was quoted so however reliable that is that's it that's a pretty good answer because you're just adding uncooked water to a cliche it's not calibration but there's a i think there's a problem with this and that's very simple you're right the water doesn't bother me but this tea sense that you extracted from the tea bag but you didn't cook that tea sense you extracted it with cold water so it was never cooked now you're putting it into a hot cliche you're cooking tea sense which is a caulia bishop i'll say no no it really got cooked in the first cup so first that's not true and if it is true so how'd you do with the first cup the terence of the first cup when you made your cold tea sense it wasn't cooked so now you're cooking by putting it into the cliche you're using color using hot cliche to cook caulia bishop so that's why it's hard to understand how that works now the javascript himself says not it's not good eye to use it says but i understand where he's coming from you're talking about potentially cooking the t cents now people say yeah it's nothing really there it's just color and that's not true we'll soon see that they make into the tea powder from that it's that color you know if you put this into the mix for maybe that's impossible because mario and your pastel there's nothing to do with hilka shabbos oh so what is the aza if you forgot to make t so the first eight is don't forget obviously but the eighths is called an america instant t today's an instant society everything is instant if you buy instant tea i have it just in case now why is instant tea a better atheist let me explain how it's made instant tea is made very similar to instant coffee they take obviously they don't use tea bags tea leaves in a great quantity they cook it until they have a very strong fresh tea then they evaporate the water and then then they have a viscous liquid of tea sense and they using a a a spray dried method they make it into powder so basically what they did was they take all the liquid out of tea and you're left with tea sense that's salad which is what you have in your tea which you want to say it's nothing it's just color it's real it's powder it's a big business so now let's clare that tea powder is there any shiloh of bishop on chavis something about the powder the answer is the powder was fully cooked it was cooked very intensely so that's why theoretically it should be mutta on shabbos to take the tea powder instant tea put it into a half cup clean hot cup and pour straight from the urn onto the tea powder why because the powder was fully cooked ain't bishop bishop and if someone does that he's ashamed to eat he's nothing you can't say it's terribly wrong the reason why people don't do that is because we have a there's a sheet of one of your earlier acronyms quotes it that powder like sugar is a soluble which means it when you put it in hot water it liquefies becomes a liquid so maybe we should treat powdered coffee powder tea and sugar and as a liquid not a salad even though right now it's a powder form but it's used as a soluble and will become a liquid and everybody knows that so therefore even though right now it's a powder a solid tree like a liquid okay so that's why the oil is uh everybody from we put it into a cup of hot water and then we put the powder into a second cup we pour it on to that so that's eerie cliche and you have to eat more than that but the point is that the you're looking at powder tea powder instant tea and instant coffee it's a perfect aim bishop without this hummer so that's why le mais said to make tea from instant tea allah should be pouring on to it as we put it into a second cup we pour onto that now the embassy i should mention that the there is a humbra like i be instant powder into the coffee of tea as far as survey is concerned which really is is a different share just like he'll just buyer of tea so therefore you wouldn't put you really could put hot water into this cup and then add the tea powder but then just it sort of looks like tayvaya so instead you put the tea powder into a second cup pour the water on top of it so now you're not pouring the the dyeing agent into the water it's for carrot so that's a humra but again trevea so it's a little bit of an interesting thing why he's back and forth but at the end of the day that's not our main problem the main problem is not the severe the main problem is the potential bishop and tea and i should mention for those that use a chinese there's also an issue of byram because the chinese has a strainer i am taking the good from the bed but then again i'm using a clay so boy herbiclee is awesome which will leave her a different chair but i just really did this the beauty of the sugi is that it's a bishop only regarding tea now i want to make a point because you know i'm i have a program i use your cup literally you come to a sewer yeshiva and you see people have hot drinks before davening and you see like there's a hundred cups lying around because people want to be from they want to use a cliche and for some reason they think you know how to use this uh different cups you have to have every person leaves is uh sharayam a cup that's used everybody so you could have a thousand people making hot drinks on chabas and all you need at the end is one extra cup not a thousand cups and i'll show you very simply how it works let's say i come acro i come first i make my the first cup of coffee in the morning i put the hot water in here so theoretically i could add the coffee into that instant coffee or whatever it is so i pour the hot water in into a different cup my coffee cup on top of the coffee and i leave this cup la zozo okay i don't know wants to touch it right maybe coffee time they don't touch it why can't the next person that wants to make coffee the mahajama mahajan take a clean cup take my shirayam that has cooled cold freezing ice cube water in it right who cares i'll pour the hot water from my cliche knee onto the ice cube this motor right certainly if it's cooled the water that was once cooked so then he could use my cork which i didn't drink from and he'll make his and i'll leave his azalza for the next fellow i call it a zazzle it's really not it's a perfectly kosher cup so if everybody uses the other ones cup that he used just for hot water in the worst scenario even if the water cooled completely it's water and water is not cooked by iri cliche so that's why at the end of the day you could have a whole hamoi nam drinking tea or coffee and one cup is all you need let's use our cup and not waste the shiva or the shoe's money the next question highlights our sugiya in a most beautiful way let's say i didn't forget to make tea i t i made the essence problem i ran out of tea essence so i'm back to square one so i'm very creative person i take let's say the tea bags that i use i put it outside in the sun before davening you say what are you doing i have an idea don't worry then i have a patent after the tea bags dry entirely i see now we're making fresh tea leather cover chabas i what are you doing you know i don't know how to make tea on chabas these tea bags were made before shabbos i will say in bishop bishop so why they have to have the ceremony of drawing it out in the sun because if this is you'll say but i'm very firm i don't play games i draw your tea bags completely now this is a waste this is not tea tea powder that that that's a soluble this is a real dovey harvest so now i can do what i want the and the ms is that the prima goddamn in two places seems to say in asia foreign indeed you allowed to reuse a dry tea bag the opinion sian and simon uh zion also says that he says you can't make tea and shabbos from tea leaves but once it was used and dried ain't bisho bishop however for us today we realized that this is highly problematic that's putting it mildly because that's the uniqueness of tea tea leaves or tea bags that you never fully cook it no one takes tea leaves or tea bags and puts it on the clerician and stokes it and turns it over until you cook the whole thing like a piece of chicken it's basically what you're doing is you're pouring hot water onto it irrecreation or cliche or maybe cliche i mean just think about that a chinec that you make before shabbos you put out water into it and then you add the tea bags so the ice it's a cliche who said the tea bag or chili was fully cooked before shabbos it could be wasn't even cooked at all if you have a cliche it wasn't good called so the whole point is that we don't know how fully cooked the tea bag was before shabbos and the tea leaves are no different and that's why you'll see something again that that's mamas in the summer of our sugar he was not talking about he was talking about coffee bassoon but in in simmon ayan dalid of the chubbis he was very concerned and he said that people told him that in hamburg the city of hamburg people are macaula shabbos they put tea they put hot water directly onto coffee grind ground coffee so i'm sorry for writing i remember when i was growing up in frankfurt the mind they also did that there's got to be a hectare and you know what the hectare is because the coffee grind the ground coffee was cooked before shabbos and since it's perfectly dry ain't bissell like a bishop you're allowed to pour water onto the coffee grind he says i wait a second we passed in salmon morning it's like types of dyes even once it's cooked putting water extracts more color and this biscuit bishop by some are not foods the ikea is getting out the color so even though you got it out before shoppers but if it comes out on shabbos so there's more bishop but coffee grind is an article people eat pieces in this time people ate coffee grind so by an oil once it's cooked ain't bishop as i stated now listen to this comes out that tea tea leaves or tea bags that no one eats should be similar to salmonella and even those cooked before shabbos but if you do it on shabbos and you have more tea flavor yes bishop bishop like and where did i see this the pisgah island 150 years ago when i was simin of coffee tea is like some omanim and there's a bonafide yes bishop bishop by a tea leaf or tea bag that was cooked before shabbos mamanisha if it's like a clapton china that there's no more flavor so it's fully cooked but there's nothing yielding but if you're getting out flavor it's like salmonella and yes bishop bishop and the kiddish is that saif is has the exact same analysis now la maison he obviously didn't see his there's a i'm sorry if it's two of them the level 2 was was printed after the life is potatoes he didn't see it but he has the same exact analysis regarding tea and he says that the fact is that if it comes out more flavor is right it was not fully cooked and therefore reusing a tea bag is yes bishop so here we see again another point in the uniqueness of tea because chicken that's cooked with ambush like a bishop but a tea bag that's cooked if it gives more more flavor yes now what bothered me was that so one second that means if there's more flavor it's not fully cooked so how do we take a piece of cold chicken from the refrigerator that was cooked and we warm it ain't bishop bishop but if i would take that chicken and put it into hot water it would probably give a flavor off right so the way that some cypher says anything that gives a flavor is ain't is not fully cooked so how could you warm chicken maybe it gives a little more flavor himself i've learned that he says that if the ick is the food like coffee beans once it's cooked and bishop bishop it's only summer morning or we're saying it's only tea but chicken is a food once it's fully cooked even if it gives more flavor ain't bishol bishop so this is the uniqueness of tea even versus coffee coffee beans if they're edible or fully cooked tea if it gives them more flavor it would be yes bishop now the charity and he tries to find a heter to make tianjabi he said well if before shabbos you cooked the tea leaves and you mixed it up and down and poked it in here you try to get all the flavor out before shabbos you could say it's fully cooked epsom why efsa because again it's a monosuch you're talking about a possible yes bishop so that's why le meister reusing a tea bag is definitely fraught with great difficulty i can't say it's also the holidays but the mice are the best way to make tea you know before shoppers of course if you make a tea sense put the tea leaves a tea bag into a china if you can't even cook it that would be even better but certainly the best day to be to keep the chinese on the black before shabbos so it's hot and you have no problems if you forgot to keep it on the black or someone took it off did not put it back it's not the end of the world i'll tell you very simply how to make a tea from cold tea sense very simple take the chinese pour from the chinese into a cup one cup is sufficient and then you could add the cold sends right in ah it's called bishop bishop by a devil the answer is no no no what kind of loch is this water water there's no bishop and a cliche and it's not caulio bishop you could even add an ice cube to this hot water so why can you add cold sense but are you cooking the scents too late you cook the scent before shabbos since you made the scent before shabbos the sun should buy and the water supply was fully cooked so to wait wait to make a tea sense from cold descents is put the water into the one cup is all you need and add the scents now those that sphere like the character and recommends that would put the essence into a second cup and pour the water from that from the first cup onto that so then you're avoiding bishop and you're also avoiding severe now i wanted to talk a little about also adding to the tea but it's so late but i want to just make point briefly and that is that the question of adding honey is problematic people assume honey is probably cooked but i spoke to mum honey is not cooked you're allowed to sell honey legally if it's not pasteurized there's no reason they should cook the honey it's better more healthy and better quality if it's not cooked in other words milk we hope we hope is considered bushel even though today it's probably not because they they pasteurize it on a low temperature and they're starting to use cold pasteurization so milk might not even be cooked at all but at least we could think it's it's pasteurized cooked lemon juice might be pasteurized cooked honey is not cooked unless you know it's cooked and the real problem is adding a slice of lemon to a hot tea some want to say it's a tavlin and therefore in a cliche is fine but the paise can say most players came upon them say that's not true because la maison the tavern is something that's added to the food the lemon is the fruit itself a lemon is the oil a lemon is not a tavern so a lemon would be suspect to be a real cali a bishop and might cook even in a cliche and perhaps cliche now someone told me decaffeinated tea bags is no problem because if it's decaffeinated it's probably cooked and in bishop now you can't make suarez in matthias the caffeinated tea is not cooked they can't sell you a cooked tea bag either they use alcohol which take which which neutralizes the caffeine which is why in pesach we avoid caffeine which is not cooked or lipton tea the halogen lipton tea that all you can use isn't it brisk tea ground but nothing to brisk is they use fresh water to wash out the caffeine the kids caffeine is no different herbal tea is all raw just like regular tea but i'm going to leave you to one hour i'd love to hear from you islam a little more guidance about this imagine a common case you have a person on a plane or at home at work and he has lipton tea which gravity again has nothing to do with brisk it's a grayish tea goya made it and a guy makes for you a tea and you watch it he's very reliable he takes water he makes it during a tuesday morning fine i allowed to drink a instant a tea from a tea bag made by a guy so one thing what's the shot at me people do it you go on a plane they give you tea as long as they're there the ingredients are fine but look again you'll see something unique because we like to say that taka the coffee that they that the that the croatian company has made is bishop but i'm making it so i'm the gemma malachos there's no bishop but here the guy made the tea bag cooked whatever whatever they did i mean they prepared it the guy made it from the tea bag into a tea it's kool-aid bishop and t is definitely where did this lock him go go go to if i did part of the process you could be making like loction they make luxury and i cook it but here the guy didn't help outside so there's one terrace there khashoggin with gimbal base there's a big headless but all the pieces can rely on this before the archisauken that the ick is the water and water without bishop what i mean there because the water there because the tea but the veld relies on the arch regarding instant coffee and tea but what i think that's beautiful and that brings down with sugiya regarding tea we have a different hetero because typically when a guy makes you tea with a tea bag it's either cliche or iri cliches maybe the whole it's a bishop akum is only by bishop gummer clicheny clichu says that might be a special hectare for tea i'm going to talk to you all [Music] shane miggins you're trying to like you'll be yesterday sponsoring a share please call the igan shiretera 718-851-8651 or email tape center at shivanet.com the secret today show will be after mentorship my [Music]