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Maamar Vata Titzave 1981 #8 - Self Sacrifice during Purim & today - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin
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Today, we're learning the
Mimer Va'yavo the Tavo the Rebbe
in 780 1981 and and distributed 1992.
And we learned yesterday
uh interesting
statement the difference between
Matisyahu and the time of Chanukah
that the mesiras nefesh
by the Jewish people at the time was not
by all Jews.
Whereas during
Purim Mordechai's time it was.
And to that
Reb Reb Shimon here
um left me a message even though he
wasn't at the shiur, which is wonderful
to see that he's preparing.
Like a real student. And want to tell us
what your question is, your questions.
Well,
that first of all, the what was the
mesiras nefesh at the times of Purim?
Other than fasting for 3 days
there was a there was a a gzeirah
against them, but it wasn't to convert.
It was just a gzeirah. Haman wanted to
wipe out the Jews. It wasn't if you
convert, if you worship avodah zarah,
then you'll be safe. So, what was the
mesiras nefesh?
And and the the idea that the the the
the the Moshiach of the door affected
all of the Yidden
but we see that Mordechai was not
successful in keeping the Jews from
attending Achashverosh's seudah. Okay.
>> So, that was was my question, a two-part
question.
>> Two-part question.
So, first to answer your second question
and going back to the first.
Historically,
um your your statement is erroneous, is
is wrong.
Simply historically.
There was
a long time between their eating at the
seudah and and and Mordechai involved.
That's look into the commentaries into
his
Mordecai become the most remain of the
of the door. Wait. Wait.
So in other words, I want to
You're right that during the time when
they went to eat from the seder, they
were not having mesiras nefesh.
That's correct.
But but that was much earlier.
When Mordecai shows up and gets involved
with the story of Purim, that part of
the story, that part of that's the story
part part of the what happened
they did. And where is the source for
this? It's the Alter Rebbe in Torah Or.
I'm surprised that he doesn't bring it
in the references. I'm very surprised.
And the Alter Rebbe says it, no one else
says it. So it's a chiddush of the Alter
Rebbe. The Alter Rebbe says that for an
entire year
Look look
don't remember the exact verbatim
quote, but the idea is like this. Like
all of machshavos chutz, I think those
are part of the words of the Alter
Rebbe.
It didn't enter the mindset of anyone
the homent dicum to rebel against their
Jewishness.
And they stayed with mesiras nefesh
to be Jewish.
A chavrusa of mine told me that he
recently saw but he doesn't remember
where a source for the Alter Rebbe. But
the Alter Rebbe doesn't need a source.
IF THE ALTER REBBE SAYS IT, then as far
as we're concerned, it's okay.
But it's always good to have a another
source, but I don't have that right now
for you.
So that's
that's as far as that's concerned. Now,
to explain that another a little a
little better.
When we talk about Messiah's love and
and you said your question
part of your question was
well, Haman wanted to kill the Jews.
And
um it it doesn't it doesn't imply that
if they
if they converted
he wouldn't kill them. That's also
wrong.
According to the Alter Rebbe.
If in other words from what we
understand from the Alter Rebbe's words
is that if they would have converted
to
to Haman, you know, to goyishkeit
right? If they would have given away
their yiddishkeit, their faith
he would have left them alone.
Because he was looking to kill Jews,
Israel. If you're not Jewish anymore,
I'm not killing you. Why would he kill
them?
But perhaps it would help if we knew the
mar makom for the Alter Rebbe
but I don't recall reading anything of
that in in the Gemara. I know. In
Megillah. I know. I know. So this is a
real chiddush. It is a real chiddush.
But if that the Alter Rebbe knew the
same Gemara that you and I knew.
And if the Alter Rebbe writes it This is
this this is maybe this is in Likkutei
Torah.
No. No, the Alter Rebbe I mean it's
brought in Likkutei Torah, it's brought
in in Torah Or
which is the Alter Rebbe's safer of
Chassidus. But the Alter Rebbe is not
saying he's not saying a Kabbalah thing.
He's saying a he's saying a factual
thing on the ground.
And by the way, could could you prove
could you prove it otherwise? You can't
prove it otherwise. How can you prove it
Go ahead. Do you have a
counter argument to what he's saying?
That with proof?
Well, if if you show me a Medrash
if you show me that it's in a Medrash,
if you show me that it's in a
There's There's got to be a m- core for
it. No, no, you're not You're not You're
not You're not You didn't understand
what I just said.
Where does it say otherwise that it
can't be? You can't disprove a negative.
You can't disprove a negative.
That's a logical fallacy.
It's
>> disprove A NEGATIVE.
>> NO, NO, NO, WAIT. The fact is that the
Jews were saved.
So
>> Okay.
So the Alter Rebbe's way of thinking
>> the the logical extension of that,
according to what you're saying, is
being saved requires mesiras nefesh.
That's right.
That's right. What that
That's the exact That's THE POINT IN THE
MAAMAR.
AND THAT'S THE And the point even gets
stronger in the maamar that he the Rebbe
makes the comparison in this in in in
yesterday's and today's chapter we're
going to learn that that
that the difference between MORDECHAI
AND MOSHE.
MORDECHAI AND MOSHE, FORGET ABOUT
MATISYAHU.
MOSHE.
And the Rebbe says that Moshe's period
didn't involve mesiras nefesh.
And it's And that's a fact on the
ground, too. It didn't.
The the mesiras nefesh came during the
time of
In other words, during Matisyahu's time,
it couldn't use mesiras nefesh. And he
did use, but it didn't impact everyone.
Whereas whereas Mordechai did, and
that's why they were saved.
So if you're going to argue, "Well, if
they If Matisyahu didn't have mesiras
nefesh, if not everyone had mesiras
nefesh during Matisyahu's time, why did
Hashem say say save them?"
Well, number one,
we know I mean, I was a down there in in
in in in in King uh
Yar David
and I uh in Jerusalem, right outside of
the the wall, and
they found over there, if it's true,
they found
written in Greek
here was a shul. So, I asked the guy,
"Why was it written in Greek?" He says,
"Cuz they were Hellenists."
They had shul, and they were Hellenists.
So,
that's not that's not mesiras nefesh. If
you're Hellenist, you're not having
mesiras nefesh.
And when you say there's no midrashim,
there are midrashim.
And the Gemara says it, too. THE GEMARA
SAYS THAT MORDECAI GATHERED 24,000
CHILDREN. SO, what do you mean they
weren't there?
So, the the that
So, the Alter Rebbe's position that
>> gather all the children you want. How is
that mesiras nefesh?
They're going to SHOOT YOU. THEY'RE
YOU'RE CELEBRATING IN THE STREETS, AND
THEY'RE AGAINST IT. THEY'RE GOING to
kill you. What do you mean? How is that
mesiras nefesh? They
They had a They They had it all planned
out. It wasn't going to happen now. It's
going to be on
the that's for the whole point of the
goral that that Haman made.
I'm asking you, if Haman if it's not the
decree, AND THE AHASUERUS IS SIDING WITH
HAMAN, and you go and gather children in
a public forum,
you're not fearful they're going to kill
you?
There's only one thing that will stop
you from killing them. If you say,
"We're not Jewish."
And therefore, you're going to dis-
mantle the gathering, and we're not
going to say the psukim.
They could have done that.
And they would have The sister says
uh
the decree
was scheduled. It's going to happen
then. Until that day, we do nothing.
Until that day, the Jews are safe.
On that day, one day which Haman picked,
that's going to happen. So, you can
gather 24,000 kids, and you know
nothing's going to happen because the
scheduled date is like, you know, almost
a year in advance.
>> Wait. Wait. Another thing, another
thing, didn't Mordecai tell them way
back at the beginning, didn't Mordecai
tell the people not to attend Ahasuerus'
dinner?
Okay. But you're arguing that
>> Yeah, but they didn't but they didn't
listen.
That's exactly what he suggested. BUT
BUT THAT'S A YEAR BEFORE.
You you
Fine, but that's that's a year before.
The Alter Rebbe is is arguing and
positioning and saying that they did
teshuvah.
And that itself brought about
That's exactly his point. That that was
the mesirus nefesh. And as far as your
question, which is a good question,
Nachshon, and Yisrael said it before, to
the date,
the date means that on this DAY WE'RE
GOING TO EXECUTE YOU.
BUT NOT THAT
NOT THAT BEFORE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO
AND DO YOUR THINGS, IT'S NOT GOING TO
contribute to
uh the
It's like in Russia.
THE PEOPLE FOR YEARS WERE teaching in
the underground, and one day they caught
them, and they killed them on that day
in 1938.
The same people, and we know their
names, and their family, some of them
live in Crown Heights and in Crown
Heights and Crown Heights, right? They
were teaching from 1930, '31, '32, '33.
Caught yet. This is in the Purim story,
it's dead man walking. The decree was
already sealed.
Okay. So, what Yeah, so therefore,
what's your point?
>> had a date. So, fine.
>> the same as saying somebody who's
underground and they haven't been caught
yet and they're at risk and that's a
mesiras nefesh?
So I'm asking you if if you know there's
a decree against Hashem Shalom a
community a person all that you feel at
ease until the decree happens? Of course
not.
>> No. They could have
No.
Right. And and and and
they had THEY HAD A SIMPLE OUT. YOUR
ANSWER to my question your answer to my
question is the mesiras nefesh was
24,000 children gathering together to
learn.
>> That's only That's only one example.
That's an example BECAUSE THE GEMARA
BRINGS THAT. I I you know
I don't know other
If they would have converted if they
would have converted I'm asking you
would there be a problem?
Would the Would the Would the
What?
>> Yes according to my understanding of how
Chazal learned the the whole difference
between Chanukah and Purim was that the
Yevanim davka wanted the Jews to stop
being Jews and that's why we say Hallel
and on Purim we celebrate with gashmius
because it was to wipe out the
physicality of the Jewish nation
regardless of their de'ah.
No not regardless of their de'ah. That
You added those words not regardless of
their de'ah. IF THEY WOULD HAVE
CONVERTED THEY would have not been
killed.
Who are you talking about?
Now you bring me YOU YOU BRING ME NO I
want TO SAY YOU BRING A SOURCE FOR THOSE
LAST WORDS. WHAT? Bring a source FOR
THOSE LAST WORDS.
>> GEMARA THAT SAYS IT. WHAT?
Give me a Gemara in the Gemara that says
it. No but you said you quoted a Gemara
and you added to the Gemara. The Gemara
doesn't say that if they would have
converted they would have not they would
have been killed.
>> Gemara Does the Gamorah say that if they
had if they had converted they would
have been saved?
>> It's logical.
But I don't see the I I don't know. I I
I
I think the Gamorah teaches otherwise.
How does the Gamorah teach otherwise?
There's a There's a decree for being Jew
for for Jews to be killed. If you're not
Jewish any longer, would you be killed?
It's logical.
You don't NEED A GAMORAH FOR THAT.
I I I think history disproves you. It's
like what Hitler Yimach Shmo did.
Even if you had a trace of Jewish blood
and you weren't a Jew, he wanted to wipe
out the Jewish nation. That was Haman,
the Amalekite.
That was Amalek.
I'm asking you Did Did Hitler Did Hitler
uh
kill uh Christians? I mean, I'm saying
Yeah. Yeah. No. No. NO. NO. I'M SAYING
DID HE WIPE OUT THE
He He selected Gypsies, Jews, you know?
But I'm saying even people who did not
identify as being Jewish
if they
>> Who converted?
Jewish ancestor, they were also killed.
They themselves could have been the
furthest thing from a Torah-observant
Jew or even a Halakhic Jew.
And yet they were wiped out.
Again,
you know,
um I I don't think we can make com-
comparison to Hitler. I mean, it's a
different a different time, a different
time.
>> Amalekite.
Amalekites. That's That's That's not
>> Thank you, Manasha.
I have someone on my side. Yeah.
Um Anyway,
so when and if I find a source with the
Alter Rebbe, I'll share it with you.
But
>> Thank you. this is This is the source
for
what the Rebbe says here, and this is
not the first time it's said in many my
moral,
and then a chiddush.
And that's it. Now, regarding your
Austrians, that that that basically this
discussion
tackles both questions. What? Yeah.
Yeah, it's good. Yeah.
Okay, let's go now. Chaim Zev, I hope it
didn't bore you.
Um I hope you followed the conversation,
but it it was a it was a very good
conversation. We made a discussion about
the p'shat. Okay.
Uh zayin
on page 370. Ve'hinei yedua she'amoserus
nefesh bepo'el al teiroh u'mitzvos that
the actual sacrifice mesirus nefesh for
teiroh u'mitzvos shel kol Yisroel of all
Jews hoiseh bePurim
No, sorry. Sorry, ches. Wrong chapter.
Page
374.
Piza yash le'vaya keshev vesayder in
yonesh bemaymer the Rebbe says based on
what we said before we can explain
the flow of the previous Rebbe's maymer
vekiblu hayehudim
be'er aposik in explaining the verse
ve'atah tetzaveh Hashem and Mosheh
should command the Jews to bring the the
oil
shel betchilah me'vayer
es apiyur div'atah metzaveh me'Yisroel.
First my father-in-law explains
the verse va'atah tetzaveh. And what
does he explain? She'Mosheh hu mekashir
es bnei Yisroel
that Mosheh is the one that connects the
Jews with Hashem in may'ein sovev.
How? Ayedei she'hu zorei'a emunah es
ha'emunah by sustaining and feeding
faith.
After my father-in-law explains that,
ul'achar zayn me'vayer after this he
explains she'gam ro'ei Yisroel
she'bechol dor that all those leaders of
the Jews in each generation is the
Moshiach which are the extension of
Moshiach.
They strengthen the faith of
In other words, not only Moshiach, but
also the the leaders of every
generation. For example,
for example, Mordecai
which is Moshiach
Mordecai who was the Moshiach of his
generation who
strengthened
the faith of the
hidden during his time to stand strong
and do
the mitzvahs.
Finally, my father-in-law for the third
point in this mind says
because it's
He explains in the mind
the meaning of crushed to the luminary.
Which is found possible
Moshiach.
Seemingly, this part of the mind which
explains this crushed oil
is referring to Moshiach.
Bring the oil
Moshiach should command the Jews to
bring oil. What type of oil? Crushed for
the luminary.
So, who who is the This is for Moshiach.
So, in other words, like this.
I'm I'm going to tell you about orally
what the question is going to be here in
this chapter.
The order doesn't seem to flow. He
starts off with Moshiach.
He goes to the extension of Moshiach of
every generation and he ends off with
Moshiach.
HE SHOULD HAVE FIRST SAID
YOU KNOW, ABOUT MOSHIACH. Then say this
explains why
the the
Hashem's command is to bring the crushed
oil to Moshiach and THEN THEY SAY
THAT THERE IS A MOSHIACH IN EVERY
GENERATION. That's not the order of the
mind. That's the question in this
chapter. Let's continue.
Who be
are you
The primary
actualization
of the crushed oil concept is through
THE EXTENSION OF MOSHIACH
IS CRUSHED.
WHICH LED TO THE arousal within the
Yidden
is the POWER OF MESIRUS NEFESH TO THEM
THAT THEY HAD.
THROUGH THIS who he can go give me at
SOME OF THE SHAMANS MORE THIS REVEALS
THE essence which is the luminary.
So again, the question is the order is
out of sequence seemingly.
But that look at the question but love
it. I told you the question that's
coming up now before inside. We're on
top of page 376.
Based on the explanation that we
mentioned earlier
the concept of crushed to the luminary
is applicable
TO THE FIRST IDEA THAT YOU MOSHIACH
should command the Jews.
To the fact that Moshiach in his
extension in each generation
they connect the Yidden in MY LIFE WITH
HASHEM WITH THE WITH HASHEM.
Over possible and in the verse that my
closest love way
But but but the Rebbi says the fact is
that in the verse the words crushed to
the luminary we're on 377
SAID IT'S SAID AFTER
THE CONCEPT YOU SHALL take to yourself.
She is rolling in shamans Moshiach that
the Jews are to bring the oil to Mosha
who she is thrown with Steve him twice
with oil and Mosha. That the Eden
something that Mosha didn't have.
The Rebbe says
that the classic causes the words causes
follows the words of
Shemen Zayis. Take to yourself oil
crushed
olives crushed oil for the illuminary.
So the Rebbe says that doesn't that
doesn't in the classic it doesn't
COME AFTER THE
IT COMES AFTER THE OIL.
And we learned earlier what is the idea
why why why is say bring to Mosha
because the Eden by by by experiencing
causes more the crushed feeling
of being in Golus and all that THEY GIVE
MOSHA SOMETHING MOSHA didn't have as we
explained them in the first and second
year etc.
So the Rebbe's question in this chapter
is
that it's out of sequence. I want to
read some of the notes here because
they're important. Okay. So
and also yeah I I I I I wanted to
yesterday when I told you
one second Mosha yeah Mosha yeah what?
So Rebbe
good question I actually asked this
earlier but
the illuminary crushed with illuminary
as we say in English illuminary meaning
for the
light.
Is that correct? The source of light.
So what that what does that mean the
source of light? Where does where does
where does light come from? Where where
does our
when the sun shines where does the the
shine? What is the shine come from? The
shine that you have here, where does it
come from? It comes from the sun itself.
>> Ah.
That's called the luminary, the sun
bowl.
So, in this case
the
the the the the menorah.
No, in this case it says bring oil,
crush the olives, right? Should be well
well crushed
for the purpose
of lighting the menorah. But, the word
lamar doesn't mean to light.
It means the actual It means something
IT MEANS LIKE SOMEHOW IT TOUCHES THE
SOURCE of light, WHICH WHICH DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'S
what he's working on here in the mind of
It should have said cos is laha'ir.
Look, it should be crushed for the
purpose so that it will shine
and brighten up
the menorah in a way that'll be proper.
So, the word the proper Hebrew word
would be laha'ir.
It doesn't say that. It says cos is
lamar.
Somehow
this crushed
uh
olives and and and you know, and oil
will not will illuminate
WILL WILL WILL CAUSE SOMETHING TO THE
SOURCE OF LIGHT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
That's his question. And and and his
answer is that that you have TO TOUCH
THE SOURCE.
CUZ IF YOU DON'T TOUCH THE SOURCE, THE
LIGHT IS WEAK. The light is not as deep
and powerful that it it could be and
should be, especially during the time of
self-sacrifice.
So, in other words, let let let me let
me just give you an example so that
in a normal situation,
having light is adequate, right? You get
up in the morning, you go to shul.
But when you have to run into bombshells
into into miklatim and all that, it's
not la hoyer.
WHEN YOU'RE DAVENING, WHEN YOU'RE GOING,
YOU'RE YOU'RE STANDING you're in the
middle of the you have to run here.
In other words,
there's a situation when la hoyer
doesn't work.
La hoyer is the norm.
Here is oil POURED INTO THE MENORAH and
it shines.
Then there's a situation when
that's not adequate.
Because we have a chaotic state. We need
we need we need a transcendent
experience. We need something that
touches much deeper.
Cut and and the Rebbe says, that's the
the significance of the word kosis.
That that there's a position and a time
that that you need kosis.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHY WHY DOES THE TORAH
HAVE TO SAY THE WORD KOSIS, CRUSHED?
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT IF YOU WANT
OIL, you have TO CRUSH AN OLIVE.
I mean,
why what
the you
the after the Shabbos Bnei Yisrael the
yeekveila
shamen zayis. Would that not be adequate
to explain what Hashem wants? Moshe,
tell the Jews we need oil, finished.
All of a sudden he adds word that Hashem
adds words in the Torah, KOSIS LA MOY,
TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. AND then what does
it mean?
Well, it means crushed. Oh, like we
didn't know it means to crush.
IF IT WOULDN'T SAY THAT, JUST IT WOULD
SAY BRING OIL. OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO
CRUSH OLIVES. YOU GET NO OIL FROM YOU
DON'T CRUSH OLIVES.
So there So there's idea of shamen zayis
and so on, but the Rebbe in the siddur
in this ma'amar he says kosis represents
a mindset.
Kosis and that's why because we're
talking about a specific mindset, i.e.
mesiras nefesh, self-sacrifice during
THE TIME OF GOLUS, it touches and and
brings into the experience the
illuminary more, not only just a regular
shine. That's that's the conject-
the thing here. What I wanted to say
from yesterday is that
that why a a
witness cannot be a judge. So it's No,
I'm sorry. That's something else. What I
wanted to say yesterday is the
that the previous the Rebbe says that
the Rebbe says that my father-in-law
wrote this about Mordechai, so he he
made the ruling about himself. That's
based on in Pirkei Avot, din v'cheshbon.
Right? First comes the din and then
comes the cheshbon.
Shouldn't it be just the opposite? It's
a famous question.
First you make a cheshbon, you make an
account, and then you have a judgment.
You have a decision.
Doesn't say cheshbon v'din.
So the Rebbe explained once a very
famous talk of his that
No, based on the Baal Shem Tov and the
Maggid of Mezritch, one of the two, that
a person
renders
the cheshbon based on them making a
judgment
making a judgment. WHEN THEY JUDGE
SOMEONE ELSE, they're really it's going
to come back to them.
So the cheshbon does follow the din cuz
the din is referring to when you judge
others.
And when you judge others,
cheshbon, then that accounting is going
to come back to you both in negative
stuff and and in good stuff and good
things. In this case, good things. The
fact that the Friediker Rebbe says my
father-in-law made a din saying that
Mordechai is the is the is the the
Midrash says the extension of Moshe, but
explaining it,
he that judgment that he made in
explaining that concept
bounces back to him that he himself is
in that situation.
And finally, let's go here back to page
um
very bottom of page 375
cuz it gives good clarity here. To
summarize the note
to summarize the mind of people are you
holding discusses the following three
fundamental concepts. A.
That Moshiach connects to Tsaveh, the
word Tsaveh. Moshiach connects
the Jewish people to Hashem by bringing
the essence next page
of their souls into revelation. Moshiach
does that. He brings He He brings the
the essence of the of Jew of the Jewish
people's souls into revelation. It's
alluded to by the phrase "And you shall
command the children of Israel." That's
the first point in the mind of the
previous Rebbe. Point number two, B.
That the extension in exclamation marks
of Moshiach
perform the same function
Um uh to and and there's no Okay, and C.
That the essential spark of Hashem's God
of godliness within the Jewish soul is
revealed through self-sacrifice in the
era of exile, which is alluded to BY THE
PHRASE "CRUSHED FOR the luminary."
One might have expected the mind of the
people are you holding have explained
the first and the third concepts
and then to explain the second concept.
The second concept is introduced between
the first and the and the first
the first two.
However, because it is through the
extension of Moshiach who brings the
essence of the Jewish souls into
revelation
that the Jewish that the Jews are able
to su- to summon up the Mesiras Nefesh
so to confront the challenges of exile.
So anyway, that that that's that point.
And uh
That's it. Okay, so
next week in Mitzvah Sham, we will
continue the Mimer and uh we'll start a
very interesting latter half of this
Mimer that will uh be very inspiring.
And um I will see and ask and if I can
find a source
um a source to um
for the Alter Rebbe's words. But the
first thing is maybe Isur, I'd like you
to look into that yourself over Shabbos.
Torah Or, I'll find the reference
meaning I did and I'll send it out. Um I
want you to see the Alter Rebbe's words
himself.
And then
uh yeah, that's it. Okay, have a great
Shabbos everyone. Today is the Rebbe's
Today is the Rebbe's brother's
Yahrtzeit, Reb Yisroel Aryeh Leib.
Reb Yisroel Aryeh Leib ben Reb Levi
Yitzchak Schneerson.
He He passed away in France and the
Rebbe had his um
had him buried in Tzfas.
So he's in Tzfas in the in the same
cemetery as the Arizal.
Shabbat Shalom and have a good week. Zei
gezunt. Bye-bye. Bye. Shabbat Shalom and
have a good week. Bye-bye.