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pa.
You know what song this is? Anyone
recognize this song?
How about I sing a few words for you?
Calling to the calling show.
Call into the calling show. You got to
call into the calling show.
To call into the calling show.
This is called scat, by the way.
Beep beep
beep.
[Music]
Yeah, I'm live.
You asking you if I'm live because I'm
beat boopping.
What?
Mal is here
with her baby.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, boys and
girls, children of all ages,
welcome to the Thursday night call-in
show where we call in and we have a show
and we do it on Thursday nights.
Thursday night, also known as La Shishi,
the sixth night of the week. Hi, Ka.
Looks very interested in what's going
on.
Um,
so what do I want to tell you? I have a
headache.
So, actually, is it possible? Could one
of the PAs get me three Advil?
Yes. Okay. And I know that's a lot of
Advil, but that's how much I need. I
need three Advil cuz I weigh a lot. And
in order for it to affect me, I need
three of them. That's You guys know how
much I weigh?
A lot.
David Gogggins used to weigh 300 lb.
Danny became
uh ultramarathon runner.
I also used to weigh 300 lb,
but I never I didn't yet become an
ultramarathon runner. Anyways, we're
going to drink some Gatorade.
electrolytes.
Um was working out today.
I um was working out today. I got into
my car. My son had been driving my car
and he put the seat up forward and I had
to scoot the seat back. And that was my
workout.
Beep B.
Thank you so much.
You're famous. Now you're internet
famous.
We're going to take three Advil.
I want to ask you something about Advil.
You know, I think I was like in my 20s
before I realized that the drug name of
Advil is ibuprofen.
Is that how you say it? Ibuprofen. Cuz I
What do you say? Ibuprofen, right?
>> What do you say? Ibuprofen.
I brew ibuprofen.
That's even wronger than what I was
saying. It's
I say ibuprofen. Ibuprofen.
Isn't that what everyone says?
Ibuprofen.
What?
Yeah. Well, no. There's not a there's
not an R. An ibuprofen.
It's ibuprofen. But no one says
ibuprofen. Everyone says ibuprofen.
I wonder if it was a pisher
who started that. You know how they say
like keigle instead of kougal? So
someone like gave a paleer an Advil and
he's like he's like
what's this? They said
they they said it's ibuprofen.
ibuprofen. ibuprofen. Then he should
have said ibuprofen.
I abbuprofen.
But you want to know the truth? I didn't
even know that Advil was ibuprofen and
that Tylenol was acetaminophen until I
was in my 40s. I didn't know how to
pronounce ibuprofen until I was in my
20s, but I didn't know it was Advil. I
knew it was one of the headache
medicines, but I wasn't sure which one.
It wasn't until I was in my 40s that I
got it straight and memorized it,
committed it to memory. Tylenol is
acetaminophen.
Advil is ibuprofen.
Now, the reason we talk all this
silliness at the beginning of the show
is for a few reasons. One is to loosen
you up. It's called milsa.
Loosens you up. The other reason is if
you want to scare people away because
yes, we want to scare people away, not
scare them. We're not trying to uh jump
scare, not trying to scare you, but
we're going to get into some deep
discussions.
And we don't just want anyone coming
along for the deep discussions. So, what
we do is we do a lot a lot of silliness.
And the people can't tolerate the
silliness, they get repelled.
They got turned off and they and they
ditch. They leave. The white stripes
taught me about acetaminophen.
White stripes taught me about
acetaminophen.
Not sure the reference.
Think it's like a heavy metal reference,
but I don't know it. Not not aware of
it.
Just reading I'm reading the chat for
the people are going to watch the replay
going like be confused. I'm reading the
chat right now. Okay,
ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
children of all ages.
[Music]
I got to Google it. White stripes
says a rock duo.
I rock duo.
Okay.
Okay. Cedophen. You see the medicine?
You have no faith in medicine.
Okay.
I just I Googled it. I wasn't familiar
with it.
Okay.
Great.
Um,
yeah.
So,
I want to just mention a little product
placement.
We do have a uh campaign going on. We've
had it going on now for 10 weeks. Can
you believe that?
[Music]
10 weeks ago we started a 48 hour
campaign.
Rabbi, how's your brother doing?
Creative Judaism. You're talking about
my brother David. Well, he just had a
birthday
a couple weeks ago. How old is he? I'm
51, so he's 44.
Um, he's good. You should go check out
his YouTube. Could we post uh a link to
his YouTube channel, Creative Judaism?
Maybe even let me see if YouTube will
let me tag him. Creative.
Let's see. Anyways, that's his channel.
I just
[Music]
You got to call into the calling show.
Got to call into the calling
show. Okay. Do you see that link that I
just posted?
Okay. What's that noise? It was you. You
see that? No. Uh, you see that? See that
link? charity.comst.
That's our campaign. So, listen. We're
trying to finish this off. It's been
going on for 10 weeks. 10 weeks.
Okay. But now we're almost done. Um, you
see, it's a $600,000 campaigns for our
yearly budget. Um, we're at 578,534
and everything's doubled. It's matched
by matchers. So, that means that we
really only need
um, let me can somebody do the math? Can
somebody please do the math? 600,000
minus 578,534.
Okay, I'm going to write it actually in
the thing. 5,78
534.
Okay.
So, please subtract 600,000
minus
534.
Okay. Equals how much does that equal?
Does anyone know?
You like my song? Yeah. It's the theme
song of the call-in show. Goes like
this. Call into the callin show.
You got to call into the call show.
Call into the call show.
Call to the call show. That's how it
goes.
And then I do a little scat.
Beep b.
Did anyone do the math?
Okay, I'm going to have to do it myself.
Beep beep.
Five. What was the number? 578.
equals
21466.
Okay. / two because it's matched. It's
double. Okay. So, here's the real thing.
Beep beep
beep
[Music]
beep.
We are $10,733
short of our goal because everything
gets matched. It's all doubled. You
think we could finish it tonight? I
think we could. But you guys got to dig
deep. You got to dig deep and do a
recurring donation. Like if you do like
$18 recurring, $18 a month recurring for
12 months, that's a lot of money. That
all adds up and we could all be done.
We'll be out of here. We finished with
this fundraising and I won't have to
fund raise from you guys for another um
9 and 1/2 months. Why do I say that? Cuz
I would like to say another 12 months,
but this campaign has been going on for
two and a half months. So, what can I
do?
It's going to be, you know what I'm
saying? We have our first caller on the
line.
All right. Fine. So, let's have our
first caller. Hello. Caller number one,
are you on the line? Are you with us?
>> We have to unmute it.
>> Hold on. You didn't Hold on. This is not
working. You didn't
>> on the other side of the call. You don't
know that there's voice that tells you
that you just got unmuted. One second.
One second.
You What did you not do? You didn't
You didn't do the Hold on.
This is not my thing. This is not my
normal thing to do.
Okay, now it should be connected. All
right. Are you there?
Hello. Hello.
Hello.
>> Welcome to the call. So, can you hear
me?
>> Yes. I hear you. Amazing. Amazing. Okay.
Fine. First of all, I have a question
for you. Caller number one, anonymous
caller number one. Do you know the Colin
Show song?
>> Yes.
>> Do you think you could sing it?
>> Um, yeah. Can I get some uh ac capella?
No, I'm kidding. Uh, calling to the call
show.
>> Oh, wow.
>> It's been stuck in my head all week.
That's we we actually
we uh consulted
with uh
>> Yeah. Tell me who you consulted with.
>> Consulted.
>> No, we consulted with um some evil
scientists to develop to devise
an earwig. An earwig is a colloquialism
for a tune that you get caught in your
brain. You can't get it out. So we
consulted with some evil scientists and
we said please devise for us the most
annoyingly unforgettable little jingle
and we scientifically
derived that that tune would be
>> yeah once you get it in your brain it
will leave
>> can I share some actual science about
that quickly
>> oh you have some real signs about that
yes but I don't like the underhand
implication that my science wasn't real
science, but go ahead.
>> No, no, no, no. Sorry.
Um, that was not my backhanded
compliment. No. Um, basically, first of
all, the story of the guys who did the
subway jingle, $5 foot long, isn't is a
brilliant story. I
>> actually don't even know. You tell the
whole story.
>> Oh, yeah. No, they got they got signed
like they got signed to do like
commercial. They're commercial
musicians, they're called. They make
music for commercials, whatever.
>> Jingles. Jingles.
>> They they
jingles are more brands. But I mean,
even like a just back like even elevator
music, these guys, they're professional
musicians, but they're not,
>> you know, they're not rock and roll
stars. So,
>> I believe the story goes that these guys
of like here's
>> they're not like Yeah. Jack and Me
White. Yeah. the the they're um they as
a idea of like here's an idea of
something that we're thinking along
these lines. Do you like it? And it was
the $5 furong song like the what they
used to pitch the customer ended up
being the hit. So that was cool. But
>> and those guys
$5 foot long was like a
>> you know you know the $5 foot long
>> I think.
>> Yeah. It was like5 $5 $5 for along the
subway, right? So that was just like,
hey, we want to do this idea of like a
uh
>> like the US I don't know the US anthem.
Yeah. Same exam. Yeah. It was just an
example of like here's what we want to
do. Like one word and then two words and
then the three words and then the full
sentence at Subway.
>> Mhm. They weren't serious. They were
just showing an example.
>> Yeah.
>> Template. Yeah. And it and Exactly. And
then they said, "No, let's really
>> And it worked."
And that's it. They got paid. It wasn't
like, "Oh, we're going to steal your
idea that you gave to us for free." They
like actually got paid and it was a lot
of success.
>> But the the intention behind it was just
shallow. But that wasn't the science.
The science that I wanted to share was
>> that um songs that get stuck in our head
and actually this might lead into my
question. Wow. Wow. Look at that setup.
So songs that get stuck in our head.
>> Yeah. He's very good at what he does.
Um,
>> don't tell him though. The the
>> You might get to his head.
>> When When you have like an unfinished
loop.
>> Yeah. Oh.
>> Um, when you have an unfinished loop.
>> Can I just see me right now?
>> No. No. I I I like to watch, but but I'm
not cuz it
right now. Please tell me why I'm doing
what I'm doing right now. What am I
doing and why am I
>> why am I doing
>> myself?
>> Tell me what I'm doing and why I'm doing
it. Okay. Thank you. Go ahead. Yes. So
the the the frustration of anticipated
payoff. Go ahead.
>> No, no, no. Come back. Come back.
>> Sorry, I had to I had to mute myself to
go look at the camera. Not so the so
basically I I don't I don't know if they
know exactly why we are the way we are
but but I think it's that we naturally
want to solve problems
>> like human beings have a tendency to
finish things
>> yes
>> or want to finish things
like I mean ask my boss and he'll roll
his eyes and say you show me what you've
ever finished but
>> but that's different story. But but I
think we're problem solvers by nature
and an unfinished song.
>> Yes.
>> Is like the should be the easiest thing
to finish. Like all you got to do is
listen to the last 10 seconds, but a
good jingle
>> leaves you wanting more. But yeah, and
and and
specifically calling to the callin show
because it's like
what which call show? What are we going
to talk about? What's going to happen if
you call in? I got no information over
here. So, I need the rest of the fall.
>> Yeah, it's really it it sounds like it's
going to explain things to you and it
explains nothing.
>> But I thought you were talking about
musically it leaves you hanging.
Yeah. So, no. So, similar similar thing
like it it's forget the data, forget the
the words also in music in general. I'm
sure it applies to an instrumental song
as well. Um, you know, I'm not going to
pretend like I understand music theory,
but I'm sure there's some sort of, you
know, beginning, middle, and end to a
well put together song. And if you if
you get caught into the flow of or
whatever the artist was intending, I'm
sure it leaves you hanging too if you
stop in middle.
>> But you this is your theory or you
learned this somewhere?
>> No. So I know that the I know that the
trick like the Reddit trick for getting
songs stuck like songs that are stuck in
your head out of your head is to finish
the song. Just go listen to the whole
song and if you finish it you you um I'm
sure there's some neuroscientist that
come did on the thr. Yeah. Do I want to
know?
>> Well, tell me afterwards. You know about
cats and laser pointers.
>> Mhm.
>> You know that cats enjoy chasing
pointers.
>> You know about that cats
>> even though they'll never catch them.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Right. Okay. So, cats are predators,
apex predators, and they like to chase
and catch little things. So, they like
to chase laser pointers. Now, I want to
tell you something. dogs.
You can make a dog permanently uh
neurotic by playing laser pointer with
it because they never get the
satisfaction of catching it and they
can't let it go.
>> Right. Dogs need to kill and cats need
to hunt.
>> So, right. I think I think cats are
hunting just for the fun of it.
>> But,
>> Right. They just need to hunt. They just
want something. They need the They need
to flex that muscle. Dogs are looking to
solve a
>> You mentioned the the Reddit trick for
getting the jingle out of your head. So,
I I think I saw I think this was on
Reddit. Somebody said that his his uncle
had like a really expensive dog. I think
it was like a like a a border collie or
something like that. One of these really
beautiful smart dogs. Anyways,
he did a laser pointer on it and it got
all neurotic and it was like freaking
out for days and finally they had to
>> do the laser pointer and then throw a
physical little like a red jelly bean or
something on the floor at the same spot
and let the dog catch the jelly bean and
eat it so he could finally get
resolution.
>> That's That's actually very cool. That's
>> Yeah. Good job. Whoever figured
that out. Yeah.
>> Yeah, it makes sense.
>> Makes a lot of sense. So
>> anyway, jingles are really talk about
it,
>> but yeah. So I wanted to ask really. So
I I and it's not like I I have nothing
to say about him, bad or good, but the
the guy that wrote the big the book, The
Body Keeps the Score,
>> which is, you know, it's I judge people
based on their books in their house.
like I like to do that as an activity
>> and when I see that book it's like
>> I'm proud of you but also
>> show me where you where it worked on I'm
happy you attempted to get some help but
like for real but
>> so if you go into someone's house and
they have the body keeps the score
>> you just
I usually know who they are right I'm
not
Stranger songs. I'm looking at their
collection. But but
my really whatever. So he said something
this week that triggered a lot of
people.
>> Who said the body score guy?
>> The guy. Yeah. Vander. Yeah. I don't
know.
>> Vander.
>> Weird European name.
>> Bessel. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Bessel. Vander.
>> Yeah. Um, so he he uh listen ben like
should we give him the benefit of the
doubt or should we should we call him a
loser? I don't know. But
>> what did he say?
>> But he basically without a conference
like a he said that as a kid growing up
in wherever he was getting bombed in
World War II.
>> Yeah. um not not to be confused with
other psychologists who had trauma from
being born in World War Europe, but um
he basically said he compared it to like
the kids in Gaza growing up in Gaza
right now.
>> Okay.
>> And and the audience took that to mean
that he was calling the IDF Nazis.
>> Okay.
Um, so they got triggered and and he
kind of got quasi cancelled and he got
kicked out of this retreat which he was
like a longstanding
speaker etc. So he was just in the news
this week and and it got me thinking
like what really really really what is
from a person's avoid perspective from
Toya's perspective from synthesis
perspective
>> what's the take on I assume the body
does keep the score I like I believe in
the science of that the physiological
stuff
>> yeah so
all right yeah this is this is a this is
a interesting path path toward the the
question. Okay. So, you don't want to
talk about
the you probably you you just it's just
interesting your conversational style.
You broached upon probably the most
controversial hot button issue in the
world right now. But that wasn't even
your point. You just kind of like threw
it out there on YouTube live and then
you just keep strolling. Okay. All
right.
>> Well, yeah. If people want to get
triggered, I think people are entitled
to feel however they want to feel.
That's not the point. I I'm wondering if
that's like you're doing like a Nor
McDonald thing right now and being like
ultra
>> I love Norm, but that was not my
>> No, because you're talking about tri
getting triggered and you're
intentionally bringing up something that
will literally trigger everyone in the
world right now one way or the other.
Like you just you hit all the hot button
words. You even said Nazis. It's like
you're hitting all the trigger words
that will like if it is indeed true that
the body keeps the score, right? You
just
push all of those neurological
trigger points and then
>> I'm figured
>> by the way
what's with this Basel Vanderult guy
like
Okay. Sure. Sure. You are very see and
you're saying this is not calculated in
any way on your part.
>> I don't know. It's actually funny
because I had a conversation with
someone this week and he told me that
someone I had met had given him a house
report like oh I met your friend and
whatever. So I I laughed and I said
that's surprising cuz usually I trigger
everybody. I meet like I trigger
everyone
>> intentionally
>> and no not intentionally. I just people
tell me like, "Ellie, you need to shut
your mouth sometimes."
>> Okay, you just broke your head over
here, by the way.
>> I'm okay with that. It's anyone who
knows who I am recognize my voice and my
style of speech. So,
>> okay,
>> that
cat
is out the bag.
>> Yeah,
>> exactly. So, yeah. So, it's very hard.
Something I'm working on
other people thinking before I speak. go
through life unintentionally triggering
people
and you find out only later people tell
you, "Hey, by the way, do you know
you're triggering that guy?"
>> No, I don't know.
>> Oh, no. My closest dearest friend,
>> right? Forget strange.
>> You triggering me? I don't know. I just
want to chat about Bessel Vanderulka. I
wasn't trying to
>> Wasn't trying to rile anybody up. Wasn't
trying to ruffle any feathers.
I just wanted to talk about Bessel
Vanderulk.
>> I didn't I didn't mean to get anybody's
>> It happens to be I have a very hard time
relating to the the physiological
relationship between how you feel in
your head and how you feel in your body.
Um so maybe that's where the
insensitivity comes from, but that's a
different
>> Have you ever been speeding
>> in a car? Do you do you do you have a
driver's license? Do you drive?
>> What if I told you my driver's license
was suspended because of No, I'm
kidding. It's not suspended.
>> But But I can I can I tell you I I came
to a very I was in Have you ever driven
on the highway in Denver in like the
rural up the mountain type highways?
>> I I don't know if precisely in Denver,
but yeah, I know that Colorado Yeah,
that like
So I was there I was there a few months
ago. There's a then they have three-lane
highways and when the right lane exits
instead of there being instead of the
exit becoming a new fourth lane it it
takes away one lane for a few hundred
yards before the entrance of the the
lane comes back.
>> So all the nervous nellies in the right
lane that are gripping the wheel afraid
to go out of their comfort zone to the
speed limit are in the right lane. and
all the control freaks who are also a
different form of anxiety but need to
project their version of reality on
everyone else in the left lane.
>> Yeah.
>> So I'm stuck behind a guy and I'm white
knuckling the wheel trying to get to the
top of the mountain before sunset.
>> Finally I get around this guy trying
>> before sunset. Was it head of Shabas?
>> No. No. I was there for a conference and
I just wanted to get I wanted to see the
sunset. I live in a flat place, so I
just wanted to see the stars for 5
minutes.
>> So, you were speeding drive
>> in the dark.
>> You were speeding because you wanted to
experience a sunset.
>> Yeah. On top of a mountain.
>> At the top of a mountain. That's
poetic.
Now, I don't know where your story is
headed, but you get pulled over and the
cop says, "Where were you heading to?"
>> I did not. I did not get Thank God. Got
to get to the top of the mountain to see
the sunset. Man,
>> that's worse.
>> I got pulled over on in a Tesla and the
cops said, "Do you know how fast?" Have
you ever driven one of those?
>> Stoner voice, by the way. That was
>> try to get to the top of the mountain.
>> Stoned, but that's not me.
>> No. A guy who's speeding to try to get
to the top of a mountain to see a
sunset.
>> Yeah.
Yes. In Colorado,
>> I would judge him like you judge someone
with a vessel van.
I' if I pulled over a guy and he said,
"I'm trying to get to the top of the
mountain. You see the shunts yet?"
>> But that's Have you ever You know where
that voice comes from?
>> Um Yeah. That's what's it called? That's
um
>> No, you don't.
>> Come on. The two guys. What's their
name?
>> Oh, no you don't.
>> No, I don't know. No, you don't know.
>> You don't know. There's no way it is the
two guys.
>> What is it?
>> I'll tell you. I'll be so blown away if
you know what that is.
>> Hold on. Hold on. It's
>> They're now they're older. They're like
literally in their late 60s or 70s. They
have a huge weed empire from this
>> from this. Yeah. Just from this just
from this bit.
>> Yes.
>> Come on. Come on. Like I want to say
it's it's lit it's literally it's not
but it's Divas and Buttad in real life.
Like it's literally them too. I don't
remember. Whatever. I don't. My father
knows. I blank. But I do knowank.
>> So, should I tell you what?
>> I know. I know. I just I'm not googling
it. No. Everyone in the comments is
already saying it at this point. Like,
>> okay. It's Chichin Chong.
>> Don't say it and I'll remember it in a
minute.
>> Chong. Chichin Chong.
>> Yeah. So, yes. Chich.
>> We will not get on to where the beasty
boy is. Not Chichin Chong.
>> Okay.
But yeah. So, so,
so yeah, but why did you ask me if I was
ever caught speeding? If I was speeding.
>> Oh, cuz you said you have
>> Okay. You have a hard time um
understanding how the body would be
affected by your mental or emotional
state. So, I just wanted to know how
>> No, not understanding sirens or
>> relating.
>> Oh, of course. Yeah.
>> What happens?
Yeah, you I'm right now I'm 50. Come on.
I'm I'm on YouTube live. Yeah.
>> Right. There's a physical reaction.
There's a physiological reaction. So, I
don't know what you mean by you don't
relate to the idea of
>> No, I'm talking about like daily
anxiety.
>> You were driving down the middle lane
and judging the control.
>> So, I'm in the nervous Nellies.
>> I'm a left lane driver, right? In this
case, I'm a left. Are you hurt in the
left lane?
>> Projecting. Yeah. Projecting my control,
right? The the noticellaries in the
right lane are afraid of
>> of of their anxiety limits them and and
forces them to go below their comfort
zone. And left lane anxiety is forget
you're 65 mph. I got to go 80. I got to
get there when I want to get there. I
got to control the world around me.
>> Right? And the guy in the middle lane is
living his best life. There's no stress.
He's calm. He's driving with his knee
while he's listening to music and
talking to his kids in the back seat
>> while he's going through. He's picking
out a nice classical
and eating a sandwich.
>> Not Not only eating a sandwich, he is
building a deli sandwich. He's shmearing
mayonnaise.
>> He's throwing the mayo with his teeth.
Yes. Could you have me a pickle? I think
they're in the ziploc baggy over there.
>> All right. Right.
>> So, I'm So, I'm in the left lane stuck.
Right. But, so after the three lanes,
well, really happened before. It
happened when I was in one lane in the
national park. And every time I try to
go around this guy, or it wasn't in the
national park yet, but every time I try
to go around this guy, I couldn't.
Another car was coming the opposite
direction. Finally, I get around him. I
pull over to like off the highway to the
last literally the last gas station
before like Radiator Springs like that
show that movie Cars. Yeah.
>> It was like that's where I was and I
pull up the red light.
>> I was in the movie Cars movie
>> and this guy pulls up right next to me.
>> There was an anthropomorphic car man. It
was a tow truck.
>> They were there were they at the gas
station they had Mater. They had they
had anyway. Okay. So, I'm at the red
light and this guy that I spent 15
minutes trying to get around pulls up
right next to me.
>> No, no. The guy with the sandwich,
>> right?
>> Yeah.
>> He finished his sandwich. He fluffs his
hands.
Right. So, it's So, on my way back, I
realized like, okay, fine.
>> If you literally So, it's But if you sit
in the middle lane at the end of the
day, it's a safer,
>> it's a more comfortable experience.
There's no liability. You're not
speeding and you're going the speed
limit. You're going the speed of traffic
and you're going to get there at the
same time as everybody else.
>> Mhm.
>> So there's no need to
there's no need to speed.
>> That's deep.
It's a great V.
>> But u but that wasn't my point. That
wasn't Yeah, it is a cool It is. Anyway,
it was a cool point.
Okay. I think you have your high hopes.
>> That wasn't my real.
Yeah. But I want to know I want to know
the truth. H how how what is what is the
what is the alterba's
response to when you physically feel the
way you feel in a moment?
How
like do you is it your nasha Bahamas? Is
it your sahara? Is it
>> okay? So now we're getting
>> do you engage with it? Do you ignore it?
That's what I want to know. Like
>> Okay,
so
let's back up here.
You want to talk about
the
what? the body's response to anxiety
in the context of what Tanya or Kabad
says about is that I'm trying to like
interpret here.
Maybe Mar is a good angle like that
story that that that that we all grew up
on about the spy and
>> yeah,
no one listening to this knows that
story, but that's great to talk in
cryptic shorthand.
>> So say the story. It's a good story. I'm
sorry. I'm not I can't be the one to say
the story.
>> There was a named Misha Misles who was a
polyglot. He spoke many languages and as
such he was able to be hired by uh the
French
army during the Napoleonic wars. But he
was actually spying for the Russians
uh because his reba the alterba the
first rebad was very vehemently opposed
to Napoleon.
Um, as an aside, many of the Alterb's
colleagues, the other kidic masters were
very in favor of Napoleon because they
felt that he would
give the Jews in Europe equal rights.
The Alterba said that he would do that,
but that it would be it would cause
assimilation. So, it was better that the
Zar should continue to uh to rule. At
any rate, so uh this this
uh adherent of the alterba named Reba
Misels, he became a spy for Napoleon
against Napoleon for Thesar. And he was
in the war room looking at some maps,
memorizing the maps, and he was
listening to the general's plans. And as
he was looking at the the maps, all of a
sudden Napoleon himself came into the
room and he said, "This guy is a spy."
Now, he didn't know for sure he was a
spy or not, but what he used to do is he
used to he thought someone might be a
spy. He would accuse them of being a
spy. And then what he did is he put his
hand Napoleon put his hand on this guy's
heart to feel his heart to feel if it
was beating the way a guilty person
who's just been accused the way that
their heart beats
and Mammis was able to control himself
because the alterb is one of his primary
teachings it's actually originally from
the holy zohar is
that the brain rules over the heart and
he was able to rule his heart and and
that's a famous story. I always think
it's interesting that people when they
tell that story you say it's a famous
kabad story what they failed to point
out is that normally when we speak about
and Tanya if you learn a basic Tanya
lesson learn about the brain rules over
the heart what we mean by brain rules
over the heart is that you can
intellectually
choose to exert your free choice and to
behave in a way that is that that is
counter to your emotions. Meaning you
can have an emotional desire, an
attraction to something, but if it's
prohibited according to Torah law, you
can use your mind to control yourself,
to curb your impulse, uh meaning to not
act on it. But in this story, it
actually is described something very
different. It's not just to um resist an
emotion, not to give into an emotion,
but it was actually
to
cause himself to not even have that
emotion. You understand the difference?
One is a person who has an emotion, but
he denies it expression as a behavior.
Here, he didn't even allow himself to
have the emotion.
um
which is much deeper
much deeper
and people don't when people tell that
story I don't think they often
uh highlight the precise mechanics of
what that story depicts
at any rate.
Yes. So what what what's really the
question here?
>> Tell me. You don't have by the way you
don't have to have a question. You could
say I just wanted to
chat, you know.
>> I want to talk smack. Yeah, that's fair.
That's true. I made an excuse. But but
no, for real, I'll tell you I'll tell
you something that I read years ago and
I couldn't find
for a long time.
I I still maybe with TGT I can find it.
Basically, there's a scientist in
Australia who has a theory and hopefully
he proves it by now because I've been
repeating it too much, but he has a
theory that the way we all see the world
and this we know is through uh our own
filters of reality.
>> Every experience we experience
>> tell me about it. Right. So, every
add layer I don't know. I don't know.
No, stop. For real. So, so, so years
ago.
>> You know who Yahoo Serious is?
>> But,
>> no,
>> no. I don't know. I mean, you'd have to
be my age to know who Yahoo Sirius is.
He was famous for about 6 months in the
80s.
>> Oh, he's actually Australian. Nice.
>> Wow. He's 72. Good for him.
>> Um Oh, and he played a scientist. That's
crazy. No. So this guy, so a lot of
people made fun of him because he's he
sounds nuts like when you hear him talk,
but basically he's a he's some sort of
brain scientist. And he was looking at
how um autistic the autistic brain has a
very hard time connecting
points, connecting dots and and and
using past experiences to to engage in
with the world in the future. Where a
neurotypical brain
knows when it tease a tomato, it
remembers that it doesn't like tomato.
So it doesn't try the tomato again for
the 50th time.
The autistic brain sees a tomato
>> and eats the tomato.
>> I'm not saying a tomato of eating the
tomato, he's like, "Oh man, I totally
forgot.
>> I forgot. I don't like tomatoes.
Why am I doing this to myself again?"
>> That's basically his theory.
So that's no his theory is that be his
theory is that a g a true genius
>> yahoo
>> what separates him from everybody else
>> played Einstein
>> is the ability
>> genius
>> no so this guy this scientist basically
wants to know if the what made Mozart
Mozart was his ability to not be limited
by the pattern recognition that a normal
person develops and their and then
limits their abilities by by reacting
instead of
>> instead of acting and and by by the
authorba if you can change the way that
you see the world it changes the way you
react.
So I want to know if it's all the same
language, if the the practical avoid of
changing the way my body feels
>> is by changing the way I see the world.
>> Wow.
Wow.
But I mean just as aside the the
scientist in Australia, what he was
doing was he was shocking people and
testing them and seeing that after
shocking them in certain parts of their
brain, they were able to solve problems
more efficiently and strategic problems
more efficiently because they weren't
limited by their reactive part of the
calculation like system one, system two,
and muscle memory and all that
behavioral science where you Most
mistakes are made when we rely on our
our uh um what's the word for like not
impulse but like when we rely on the
things that we are good at and
consistently do
>> almost like muscle memory that's where
we make mistakes but when you're when
you when you're forced to think cuz it's
a new equation
>> right
>> it's you don't make mistakes
>> right you get lulled into that like
hypnotic trance but that's also like the
flow state. That's where you're like
your most brilliant.
>> Flow state is where you have both
systems engaged. So that's why walking
and talking helps and and listening to
music that you know already allows you
to focus cuz if you engage your system
one, your system two is free to run
wild. But if your system one is
overwhelmed like have you ever done this
experiment on yourself? If you walk
slowly, you can talk and do math. But if
you start moving a little quicker,
jogging, it becomes harder to think. And
if you run like if you if you ran a full
sprint right now and tried to do a a
basic math problem, you might have to
stop and think sprint, I would not be
able to do 2 plus two.
>> Right. Right. Because and that's the
point is that because but if you get
system one, which is I'm totally
blanking. It's but we all know what it
is. It's just like the muscle. It's just
the the an like animals have it. It's
it's automatic. Like a deer is born, it
knows how to walk, right? It's it's that
deer, they just start walking. They just
they drop out and they just walk away.
What's with that?
>> But it's that's that's
almost like
>> why do nature versus nurture
>> long to learn how to walk?
because that's already I don't know. God
God made us complicated. God made us
dependent on our mothers.
>> Sorry, Bambi. Um but no, so but I wanted
for real. Don't let me don't enable my
ADD. Like you're
>> I'm not enabling your ADD. I think I am
egging on your ADD.
I'm having a field day with
>> I'm happy if you're enjoying. So, but
but I want to know. So, for real, I want
to I want to
I want to
know like I have like I we we have a son
Kanara and it's almost his upsh.
>> Okay. and and he's amazing and
everything that I teach him he picks up
like a sponge
>> to the point where he's already a better
dude than me. So the the
>> like I want the one thing that I wish we
took more seriously maybe and I'll blame
the schools but before we go to bed we
don't really think about our day. We
don't think about the mistakes we made,
the things that we did right, the things
we did wrong, how we felt, how we
reacted, did we think before we spoke.
Did I say something and hurt someone
else's feelings? Did someone else say
something that and I didn't stand up for
myself and communicate how I felt? Those
are all things that are not hard to
to
practice if you have someone to guide
you.
>> You're talking about
a
>> spiritual inventory.
>> So, are you saying that you do a
spiritual inventory with your almost
three-year-old son?
>> No, but I but I would like to start in
some capacity so that when he's my age,
he is a gangster. Like he like I think
you there won't be any trauma if you
heal it all before you go to bed. And I
think that's the point of of Krishma in
the sitter, not saying and going to
sleep.
>> Yeah.
>> But but I I maybe maybe we weren't
taught the tools or I was spacing out
when we were taught how to do it. Uh,
>> okay.
>> I think that you like
>> I I'm just I'm listening to you now and
I'm wondering why the Bessel Vander Culk
was necessary.
>> Oh, it wasn't necessary. It I mean
because I wanted to make fun of him for
triggering a bunch of people at a trauma
retreat to be honest.
>> So that's what you should all of a
sudden all of a sudden I don't feel so
bad anymore. should have said, "Hey, get
a load of this." A guy goes to a trauma.
>> I did in the emails a bunch. Oh, that's
I didn't read your email, but you should
have said it like that. Like a real
borch belt comedian. Hey, get a load of
this. A guy went to a a guy was a
keynote speaker at a trauma convention
and he triggered everybody in the place.
>> But I'm bummed.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And he's still been there
every year for 20 years. But um Nice. I
I heard that. But um yeah, and it's also
whatever. I'm not going to make fun of
the people for getting triggered, but
there there's humor in that, too.
[Music]
>> Yes.
>> The last time you did that, you asked
the the nice the nice caller if you
could do that.
>> I wanted to trigger you.
I wanted
other people force you to have a
physiological response. I wanted to
cause you distress
>> reaction.
>> I wanted to cause you distress
finally grasp this concept.
>> And now the body keeps the score. And
now every time you you're walking down
the street, you're going to anticipate
suddenly abruptly hearing an air horn.
I'm not. The air horn's cool. I'm a big
fan.
>> You like the air horn?
>> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, no. So, but
it reminded me Oh, so that's the other
thing. The other thing is that that I
can't control the way
uh things make me feel.
>> But I can control the way I respond.
>> Yes,
that's basic Tanya. I can't control the
way things make me feel. That's what a
banin of the Tanya is. I can't control
the fact that I look at the non-cooser
sandwich and I salivate. I can't control
that. But I can control my behaviors,
>> right?
>> Are you familiar with Bnee Brown?
>> Yeah, I heard of her. I'm not like a big
expert in her,
>> so
Oh, no, you're good. So,
>> she has like some TED talks,
>> whatever. Well, well, that's that's
maybe what put her on the team, but she
put out five books before the TED talk,
but but she she's big on vulnerability.
Yeah. The the healthy way.
>> Yeah. Um, and I I I had this question
like if the Torah theoretically wants me
to have absolute
and in Hashem,
right? Absolute faith and trust in
Hashem that everything is good. Then and
and nothing can hurt me then how then at
the end of the day, how can you be
vulnerable? What can hurt you? Ah,
>> but but but then I saw then the rabbit
cried on on Jam,
>> right? Literally like two seconds after.
>> On Jam.
>> Yeah. Like on Jam. Yeah. The Yeah. I'm
not going to say hot, whatever. But but
literally like a second later I saw it
and I'm like, "Okay, so clearly I'm full
of baloney." But there is something to
it because at the end of the day, who do
I know in the history of ever that had
more and more toughen and knew why
everything happened? So it must be that
you can have absolute faith and trust in
Hashem but still be vulnerable.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and then whatever do some research
and you see that every time he cried, he
cried because of our suffering. So that
just made me
an even
>> bigger yacht. But but but that I think
so that goes to what then what
so so at the end of the day the all the
what if if if it just boils down to you
can't control the way things make you
feel but it's all about how you respond
then how do you respond when your body
is getting in the way of
>> a healthy or or response in general.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna
decide I'm going to choose to consider
this your official question only because
I would love
>> Yeah, could have done that. You could
have could really have, but I would love
to have been with you all night and um
but I'm being told that our next caller
is is waiting. So, I'm going to I I I'm
forced to wrap this up. But, listen, you
you you've got a free pass. You could
call in. You could be a you could be you
could become a regular caller if you
want. Okay. Um so let's say your body is
having a reaction. You're being
triggered by Bessel Vanderulk or
whatever it is,
right? So the question is like where
does the free will come in? Where does
the brain rules over the heart come in?
And and I and I think the answer is
unlike the story of Mishimisels who was
actually able to override the
physiological response. I think that the
avoid of Tanya is that you will have the
physiological response. You your body
will be triggered and yet you write it
out. You know, breathe through it.
whatever you got to do.
Chev alasa, you know, just sit there
until you're ready to uh
to behave in a rational way. So, I yes,
I think discretion is a better part of
valor. I think sometimes you got to just
wait it out before you're ready to uh
before you're ready to make a
a move.
But don't engage with the don't tuggle,
you know, don't wrestle.
>> No, you can't. You can't. You can't. You
can't. It's impossible. It's not a
product of a thought process. And you
can't override it with a thought
process.
No, it's an automatic thing. You didn't
talk yourself into it. You can't talk
yourself out of it. Like for instance,
you can you can take a thought
>> and you could proceverate on that
thought until you work yourself up into
a real state of anxiety. So that's
something you talk yourself into it. You
talked yourself into it. So you could
talk yourself out of it. But then there
are other things that it's an automatic
response. It's just it's it's a stimulus
response. There's nothing you can do
about it. It's automatic. You're going
to feel it no matter what.
The question is,
after you feel whatever it is that
you're inevitably going to feel, are you
capable of waiting until you're in
a position to make a good behavioral
choice?
I think that's really
>> I don't know if that answers your
question, but at any rate, that's
>> that's what I'm going to
>> No, no, it's good. I'm good with that. I
can I can I can live with that.
>> Okay. This has been a blast. I really
appreciate
>> all your stories
>> and uh
>> I appreciate your uh support
>> my enabling
>> and and facil being a listener.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Valdic. All right. We have another
caller. Patient caller waiting on the
line. Okay. That was Ellie. He outed
himself. He already identified that's
Ellie. Okay. Thank you. Um All right.
So, do we have the next caller on the
line? Do we have the next caller?
>> Hello.
>> Oh, hi.
>> Hi.
>> How are you?
>> Thank God I'm doing well. How are you
doing?
>> Um, so I have something that's sitting
heavy on my heart. I really really would
appreciate your wisdom.
>> Before I do so, I like to I would like
to segue and say it's ironic because um
I actually have a daughter who's named
after a shear that was given based on a
study by Vessa Vander Vanderk. So really
came up so much. Yeah,
>> that is so ironic.
>> Her name her one of her names is Sapier
and Sapi has to do with healing trauma
and all whatever. I'll send the
>> really has to do with healing trauma.
>> Yeah,
>> I don't know.
>> Yeah, there's a sh by Rabbi by Dr. the
palists all about um leaving not us
appear and the foottool of Hashem's
throne
>> and seeing it and illuminating parts of
the brain by speaking um the whole
>> the sapphire brick.
>> Yes.
>> Under the throne of glory. Yeah.
>> Yes. At the end of
Anyway.
>> Wow. That's cool stuff. Okay.
>> It's really cool stuff. Anyway, but so
that's my segue. Okay.
>> But I'll tell you what's sitting heavy
on my heart and maybe you could guide
me. I'm almost nervous a little bit, but
I'll I'll get choked up during this this
call.
>> It's an emotional thing. So I'm I'm not
going to make jokes about it.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Uh so this is a serious
>> Okay. Maybe that's the way the Jews got
through everything.
>> Maybe we should make jokes. Okay. Maybe
make jokes about it. Okay. Fine. But
we're talking about something very
serious here. Um let's let's let's hear
it.
>> Okay. So I'm going to start with my
tacless question and then I'll build
upon it.
>> Okay. No problem. The question is when
you have a child I'm it's funny I don't
cry I'm like getting to when you have a
child who has a backstory
um how do you is it advisable to share
it with the teachers in advance of
school
>> um at risk that perhaps they'll get like
be stigmatized before they even get
through the door without being given any
benefit of the doubt.
>> Yeah.
>> And if you should speak to the teachers
how do you do so? And now I guess I'll
I'll fill in the gaps.
>> Yeah,
>> I have a daughter who's amazing. Like
she she's really she's really great. She
was she was always like the girl that
everybody's like, "She's your daughter?
She's so nice." She's 7 years old. She
was my one kid who I never got phone
calls about. Like literally never.
>> Last year by the third day of school,
>> she didn't have the
>> Okay.
I mean, right to seven years old without
ever having to be having to have the
school call.
>> I'm saying if you make it to 20 and and
the school never called your parents,
then that's okay. But whatever. Okay.
She made it to seven without ever having
>> What I'm saying is in my family like all
the kids are ADHD, all the kids have all
these different things and they love to
pick on them already from the time that
they're 2 years old.
>> Your kids not standing correctly there.
She was the one kid that like I always
got knocked on. That's a big deal to
make it in your family to make it to 7
years old without school having to call
home.
>> That's a big deal. Okay, fine. Got it.
This that's always piece of information
told me even more than anything else you
told me so far. Okay, got it.
>> The parent teacher conferences always
were not. Thank God. It was always like
she's very advanc like I I actually once
called um many months ago about her and
I said that she was advanced and and you
joked that many many like mothers always
their kids are like very very bright.
Yeah.
>> Like she she was reading from the time
she was like like turning five like she
she gets the point very quickly and she
actually reminded me of like things that
you talk about today because
>> she was listening to my phone call in
the car with my husband and she guessed
what my husband was going to going to
say after he expressed the complaint.
She's like, "What are you going to say?"
But it's going to work out. Like she she
gets the point already. Anyway, by the
end of the third day of school last
year,
>> I already was called in. It was it was
the third day of first grade. I was
already called in for what I call an
ambush meeting where I was like, "Mrs.
So and so, please get your child to
Parah or get them out of this school."
And they called me and they said, "How
did they handle her last year?" And I
said, "You know, they handle her last
year. She was fantastic." And they
didn't believe me. And they called the
the head of the early childhood center
and they said, "Why didn't you send in
any like notes on this kid? This kid's a
psychopath." And she said, "What do you
mean?" Like she was like she was a
pleasure. She was the girl who always
offered her snacks, offered. Now I know
there's a big adjustment from pre1a to
first grade. You know, there's like
>> Mhm.
>> especially if you're like out like an
ADHD kid who's academically inclined.
You have the movement in your day in
pre-1 where you don't have that anymore.
But she was given no benefit of the
doubt. And ultimately I I had shared
with you in a call many months ago that
like for example the story where like
she she went to on the second week of
first grade she went to take something
from the teacher's desk that she thought
belonged to somebody else with the
intention of doing hasha. I don't know
if it rings any bells to you. It fine if
it doesn't but um
>> yeah I remember
>> she was like yelled at in front of the
whole class. I got a phone call back
like I got a phone call your child's the
only child by the end of the second week
of first grade that doesn't know all the
class. So meanwhile,
um I don't feel like I have any ally in
the school. I mean, I've always been
extremely respectful. I've never, god
forbid, stirred the pot. I've really I
don't have any interest in in creating
more problems in my life. Sean blesses
me with problems. I don't need to look
for problems. And I don't I'm not a
confrontational person. I've always been
extremely respectful. I've always been
10 steps ahead. If ever they've said to
get my kid like evaluated, I've always
been like, "Oh, she was already
evaluated last week." Like really I'm
I'm not drive. It's not like I'm driving
the car with my eyes closed.
>> And now she's telling me that she
doesn't Well, she spent a lot. The
second semester of first grade was
either spent at home or every single
day. I got a phone call, please come
pick her up or she's not allowed in the
class tomorrow. She spent a lot of time
in the hallway or at home.
>> Um she refused to go to school. Now,
we're not talking about, oh, I'm getting
at school. I'm like driving late. I'm
talking about like not willing to go to
school. The teachers were not Dom. They
gave her no benefit of the doubt. The
teachers were they really were not nice
and they really did not have her best
interest at heart. They looked for
fault. They I believe that like there's
there was like narcissism at play like
like her personality is really big. Like
she would be great on Broadway
>> and
>> and I and I think that the teacher was
intimidated by my daughter's like
personality. Yeah. I was nervous to be
like and that her co would be like shut
out. So basically we got her class
assignments for this year and now she's
saying she doesn't want to go to school
because she knows that you cuz this
teacher moved from first grade to second
grade and she knows that she was very
strict last year and my daughter they
kept saying tough love tough love and I
kept saying no you're going to break her
with tough love and she felt like the
authority was on a power trip and I and
I kept saying you have to be nice to
her. I think I shared this story also
last time that like on the first day of
school with art class, she made she was
a she was a perfectionist. She made a
mistake. She asked for a new paper, they
said no because if you ask for a new
paper, she felt like there was no one
like it was all falling on deaf ears.
The school did not take initiative with
her. There was no behavior plan in
place. It was just they really like they
would look at her with like disgust. Now
we looked into switching schools not
it's not really an option for us. I'm
I'm really dominant with my whole heart
this year. Please God, I should almost
take true compassion on us and just make
it a really good year and it will be
like a tune for what we experience. And
I say we because it was really
tremendously painful for me as well. I
had her home all summer. It was amazing.
And the best part of it other than
really enjoying being there was that I
didn't have to wait for that like the
doom of that phone call.
>> Um, Mrs. Whatever, please come pick up.
I don't want, you know, I got to just go
do fun things, go nature trails,
whatever it was.
And now we're about to start the school
year. So the question is, what do I
share with her teachers without
stigmatizing her? I want them to give
her a fair shake. And what if the school
already stigmatized her? And the other
question is, how do I get her to school?
She And also, this is her wholesome
religious setting, so to speak. I feel
like they're really ruining my child.
And you could say, oh, she's only seven.
She I I think I said this to you in a
different call. I feel like there's a
category of um right there's like at
risk youth and then there's at risk for
being at risk.
>> Like she's the at risk for being at
risk. Like really bright, understands
everything. Her talents are not
appreciated in school. She actually is
an assistant um counselor in in a kabad
day camp this summer on the Fridays cuz
they said like I knew that it would be
like good for her um close to the person
who was in target and had a come help
set up Shabas party and bring the kids
inside and whatever it was. She needs
like leadership position. She's very
helpful in the house. I have many
younger children. Um but if it's always
authority, authority strict strict no
love, it will break her because she
doesn't like that like why are you in
charge of me? Like that's a little bit
hard for her.
>> Mhm.
>> Um and I don't I just don't know how to
handle the upcoming school year. Aside
from her being so like worried about
going back to school and honestly
against the idea, I'm also terrified.
And I don't I know you would never say
this, but it's not that I don't have
God's will to faith that it would be
good. It's just um the our journey my
journey with each of my kids has been
very very difficult. But with her in
particular, it took me by surprise. I
think that was part of what was so hard
and that there was no leeway and no one
no one believed me that she was once
A++.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't know. I'm done with my question.
Okay.
Yeah, I hear I hear every word.
Um, and I understand why this is painful
on many levels.
So, my question to you is,
it's really actually pretty simple.
The qu my question to you is, yeah, it
is. Is it absolutely? No, it really is.
It really is simple. It's not
complicated.
>> Um,
>> are you prepared
to cut your losses when you see there's
no one to talk to?
What I mean by that? What does that
mean? Okay, I'll explain what I mean by
that.
>> You're asking, should I give the teacher
the backstory
or will it
blow up in my face?
And here
>> you do have a lot of partnership and say
this has been a tough year. Please be
easy on her.
>> So here here's the deal.
There are good people and there are not
good people. I don't want to say that
they're inherently not good people. But
I'm saying like whatever in in their
current state
they're not they're not people you want
to trust too much. Right now
>> right how I didn't feel that way.
>> Okay. So, here's the thing. Somebody
who's a compassionate
person
doesn't even need to be told the
backstory.
Somebody who's not a compassionate
story, it's not going to help to tell
them the backstory.
>> What you just said is brilliant.
>> Really,
>> if they're nice, they're going to be
nice always,
>> right?
>> Makes sense. If they're nice, they're
going to be nice always. They don't need
to be taught how to be nice. And if you
aren't nice, then it's going on deaf
ears because you can't change.
>> So this this is what I'm saying.
When you realize that you have someone
to talk to,
then you have the ability to fine-tune
the approach and make it right for your
daughter. But if you see that there's no
one to talk to that you everything you
say is being deflected
or dismissed.
>> That's what happened last year.
>> Every time that I said you know I you
know I understand that you were like you
know you punished her today but tomorrow
when it happened. Why don't instead you
say like instead why don't you say like
oh it's good that you did one question.
If you can do a second one that would be
great. I'm so proud of you for doing
one. Not you should have done number two
like you know you did number one.
>> Right. So the question is if you see
that you're in a situation where there's
no one to talk to.
>> Are you ready to cut your losses?
>> What does that actually look like? I
understand what the words if they say
there's no one to talk to. Then what?
>> Well, you told me the summer was nice.
>> Yeah, it was beautiful. Thank God.
>> So I'm talking about summer all year
long.
really.
Um, you know, it's funny before I joked
that before I had kids, I wanted a
homeschool and then I had kids. That's
the joke. Um,
I'm not like counselor, division head,
person who makes like, oh, dishes. let's
go to the lake and learn about like I
try to do things very hands-on and and
in theory that it would be very nice but
I also kind of want her to have I don't
say I want her to be part of the system
because I don't need need that but I I
want her to have a good taste from
religious institutions.
>> Stop because
>> stop stop
[Music]
>> I'm stopping. Say that sentence again
slowly.
>> I want her to have a good taste from
religious institutions.
>> Let's dwell in silence on the
ramifications of that statement.
Anything
coming up for you?
>> This is one of those situations where
I'm not sure what the right answer.
>> There's no right answer.
>> What's coming up to me?
>> Yeah.
>> I'll tell you what initially came up to
me.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I have called in the past which I
referred to or what referenced. I'm
think God uh what did you call it? God
willing a a coffee cake lady.
>> Coffee. the God willing a coffee cake
lady.
>> Oh, God willing.
>> She the God willing coffee cake lady.
>> That's me. Hi, it's me. The God.
>> And honestly, I'll tell you a little bit
what's coming up for me is I don't I'm
not so bad, but but we have um I
something I really love is in the spice
and stir the bubbles cookbook, there's a
letter from the Reb about how important
like running the home is
>> and how like making the food is
important. And part of that is coming
out for me like it's okay if she's not
okay in an institution cuz I can get
like the home can give her that. On the
other hand, I guess it's coming out for
me as like
>> well I half agree with that.
>> I mean
>> I agree with the fact that
the pleasant
sweet
experiences of
living Yiddish kite in the home with
your mother. I I I agree that's
invaluable. It's so powerful
>> like mock the ball suit the Jew like
that like people don't have a good like
I think that that is very important and
and the story is told through that
>> but what I would say is the part don't
agree with was when you then jumped and
said so as long as she's got that
uh it's okay if I
>> but that's the part that I don't agree
with either.
>> So why'd you say it? But I'm saying but
it's hard for me as someone who
>> let's on the one hand I think that's
tremendously important. On the other
hand
>> you said I wanted to have a positive
taste from religious institutions.
>> Correct.
>> Okay. I I I I
mean to me this is just
very obvious that the inverse of that
statement is
then I would obviously go to great
lengths to avoid
her having a negative experience with
religious institutions.
In fact, that would probably be my zero
tolerance
issue that if I felt she were going to
have a negative inst negative experience
from a religious institution, that would
not be something that I would just tell
her
to to tough it up and to persist through
because that is a formula. You say at
risk of being at risk, that's not even
at risk of being at risk. that you're
even beyond risk when a child is told
we're sending you to a place that
represents God, represents Torah,
represents Judaism, and they're going to
traumatize you and disrespect you, but
there's nothing we can do about it
because we have no choice. Our t our
hands are tied.
You're beyond risk. It's not risk
anymore.
That's
>> So, we all to go to another school.
>> That's religious trauma. We all wanted
to go to another school and we tried a
very out of the box school that was like
only has like eight kids in it and she
went there for the day and they she was
really like she saw like a day and she
was like a star. She she loved it but
she didn't want to go there. And then we
brought up the idea of going there like
permanently she was like
like so against it that when we brought
her back for a second like interview,
she wouldn't even walk in the building.
And after an hour of standing with her
in the like
lobby area, she ended up leaving so I
don't know how to even like I know I'm
the parent.
>> Yeah.
>> But
>> but if she's so deep and insightful like
you claim
>> then I think you could explain to her
and say listen we got two options on the
table. We got the regular school that
you feel like
>> is normal and you're not stigmatized by
going there. It's just okay. Everyone,
you know, this is a regular system. But
I think you're not going to be treated
respectfully this year.
Or we have this alternative situation
where I think that you will be treated
nicely and you're going to have to live
with the fact that it's not a normal
thing.
I would I would give her that choice cuz
honestly, if she says, "All right, you
know what? I'm accepting. I'm going to
go to the the mainstream place and
they're going to treat me poorly. Then
at least she's a little bit more
mentally prepared for it.
But if she is being sent
>> I wasn't said to her like you don't need
to call her like I said to her in other
words like
>> a lot of things where they like really
appreciate you and you're like like
you can't tell a kid you don't need to
put up with that but they do when you
send a child to a school they are forced
to put up with whatever treatment they
get.
So, it's like parents, I'm going to say
something very, very like I'm people are
going to get mad at me for saying this,
but I don't care cuz no one's going to
even hear this because it's after an
hour and a half of bizarre ranting and
Chich and Chong jokes. So, no one's
going to even get to this point in the
video.
Parents send kids to school and out of
sight, out of mind. Once I can get them
on the bus, thank God, I can breathe a
sigh of relief. It's done. I succeeded.
Hooray. Everything's fine. That's so not
my day.
>> So not my day.
>> It's not fine. It's not fine that if a
child is going to a situation where day
in and day out, they feel persecuted.
They feel stigmatized not by their peers
even, but even but by by the adults that
they're supposed to be taken care of by.
that that causes real harm
on every level.
So, you can't tell a kid, so for now,
>> I'm going to send you to a place where
they're going to mistreat you. But you
know what? Don't put up with it. What do
you mean don't put up with that? What
choice do I have? I'm going to have to
put up with it.
>> No, I'm saying the opposite though. That
I offered her to leave and she didn't
run. And I said to her like that there
is a better option and she
>> Okay, that's what I said.
If at least it's a discussion. Now, I'd
say it sounds like you're saying you had
this discussion already, but I would
have it again.
>> At least it's a discussion where she can
think about it and make a deliberate
choice and she can say to you, I'm ready
to go into this war zone. Then
just by virtue of her making a choice,
she will be more mentally prepared
for being in that situation.
Well, what if I'm in a situation right
now where she's made that mental choice,
but now she has to like
if I proposes and they actually have to
get married,
>> like now she actually needs to go to
school on Wednesday and now she's
telling me she won't go. And again, I
want to just reiterate. I'm not talking
about a kid who's like, "Oh, food's
over." Like I'm not a kid who like like
she would like go on like a like a
hunger strike, you know, like she she
like puts her money where her mouth is.
She if she says she is doing something,
she does it. She said she's not doing
something, she's not doing it. She's
unwavering and and there's only so much
you can combat that.
So now she made this decision and now
we're registered for this school and now
I need to get her on the bus and I don't
know. That's why I go back to the
original question I asked you which I
said, "Are you ready?" What was the what
was the expression that I used?
>> Uh,
>> cut my losses.
>> Cut your losses. Yeah,
>> cut my losses.
>> Yeah, thank you for remembering the
idiom that I used. Yes, cut your losses.
And that means option three, which is
Okay, so there is no school that's the
right fit for her this year.
And then teacher at home.
>> I I I mean I guess that's the logical
conclusion. Yeah.
>> Interesting.
I
Okay.
I suppose although I'm worried I guess
about myself.
>> I want to do one more. Go ahead.
[Applause]
Someone who doesn't have the ability to
walk away from the negotiating table
will always
make a bad deal.
Someone who's forced to make a deal will
always make a bad deal.
The only way you will ever get a good
deal is if you're ready to walk away.
It's in business. It's in love. By the
way, when one person
is ready to leave a relationship, if
they don't like how they're treated and
the other person will never leave no
matter what, then that other person, the
one who will never leave no matter what,
is going to be mistreated.
They're inevitably going to be
mistreated or they're going to accept
treatment that they shouldn't accept.
So, it's in business, it's in love, it's
in everything. If you can't walk away
from the negotiating table, then you
lose.
So, here's the thing. I think the fact
that parents are terrified, terrified
of walking away from a school that's not
serving their needs. That is a big part
of why children have terrible school
experiences.
And that if you're ready to walk
>> Well, I'm not clarified of it, though.
Well,
>> I am ready to walk. She's not ready to
walk. I'm I'm I'm my whole body out the
door.
>> Okay.
>> I
mean, there's a little bit more to it
than that. Also,
>> so then you're okay if you're ready.
>> And there also needs to be a place to
receive you, meaning she's already
stigmatized, so it was hard to get her
into one school. There was another woman
wanted to take her, but the was
>> But it's going to be hard to get. Yes.
Yes. all. But you're you're you're
you're coming from a family where
everybody you said she was the world
record breaker that she got to seven
years old before the school called about
her.
>> So all of your kids are going to be a
challenge.
>> Do you understand that?
>> I know. Don't think too highly of me.
>> Did you? No. It's the
nature of school. It's bizarre. The
whole school thing is bizarre. A hundred
years ago, nobody went to school. The
whole thing is artificial and and
against nature. And now we're forced
into this situation where we basically
have to look, school is only good for
about 5% of kids. About 5% of kids who
do well in school that it's actually
totally beneficial to them because it
suits their personality. Everybody else,
it's like literally like it's this
marathon. It's this gauntlet. It's
running the gauntlet, you know, like the
punishment, like the medieval torture.
They're running the gauntlet. You're
running through like there's two lines.
There's a line of people on either side
of you and they've got clubs and chains
and whips and they're hitting you and
you got to make it through the gauntlet.
You got to get to the other side.
>> That's what schooling is for like the
vast majority of children. It's running
the gauntlet. It's like, can I make it
to the other side without
being destroyed?
Anyways, I'm going to delete this whole
this whole episode cuz I just I'm not
not in the mood to deal with the
backlash from everyone's going to I
heard you say on YouTube that school is
like getting beaten with a chain.
>> No, I didn't say that. I said for 90% of
children.
>> I think so. I think chain. So I
you know I'll tell you what I think I
think that so many people relate to that
the 95% of people listening to your show
that are 95% relate to that experience
whether it was socially or academically.
So I I think I think it made sense. I
I'm just trying to balance between
like
there's another level to this. It's not
just school into itself. It's not just
math. Like I said, it's the religious
experience.
>> I want her to feel like appreciated and
like she belongs,
>> right?
>> And that's what that's what ultimately
terrifies me. That's false show like
>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
>> That we're making problems that don't
need to be.
>> Right. That's what I'm saying.
>> That's our biggest thing.
>> Right. So, if like I said, if you have
someone to talk to, meaning if whoever
is her teacher this year actually is
compassionate,
then you'll know. and then it'll be
you'll be able to survive this year in
school. But if you find
>> that's the question that made obvious.
>> Yeah.
>> Based on my original question of should
I call should I should I call them
before? Should I not call them? What
you're saying is that
let the school year start. If they're
nice, it won't even be necessary and if
they're not nice, that's the point of
even talking to them. So I shouldn't
talk at all.
>> Yeah. Basically,
>> right now I want to tell you something.
It Um, I mean, this is such a sad thing
to have to teach you because basically
it's me passing on my cynicism to you,
but I'm going to I'm going to tell you
something.
Most people cannot be trusted with
personal information.
Um, the
>> I didn't hear what you said. Most people
cannot be trusted.
>> Cannot be trusted with personal
information.
>> Okay. Um yeah, the previous caller was
talking about Bnee Brown and uh
vulnerability. Okay. Anyways,
most people are not worthy of being
vulnerable in front of. In fact, most
people will weaponize your
vulnerability.
And you know, if if if you feel like
you're tough enough to handle that,
that's your prerogative. But you're not
allowed to do that to your child. You're
not allowed to share your child's
vulnerabilities with someone who may
weaponize it.
>> So, what I'm saying is
>> that's what I'm so scared of.
>> Well, then you got your answer right
there.
>> But what if they shared it amongst
themselves? Like there's a new
administrator. What if the old
administrators went over her and said,
"Watch out for this one. She's a real
toffee."
>> You'll find out. You'll find out within
a week.
>> Ding for me.
>> Yeah. Okay. We'll dive in for you.
Jeez, I'm so scared. I wish I wasn't
this scared.
>> Yeah. Well,
nothing to be afraid of. You're going to
go through it and whatever happens
happens and you'll deal you'll deal with
it.
Whatever happens, you'll deal with it.
You're going to be okay.
>> I just always have to deal with so much.
It's not I I guess like this
I have to deal with it with all of my
kids. It's not like there's ever a dull
moment. And that's like I can't just
focus on her. I have to focus on
everybody. And because of her, other
kids fell through the cracks last year.
Like I had a baby and I wasn't even able
to feed her because I had to keep going
to the principal's office.
>> Yeah.
>> So I will I will deal with it. It's just
not easy. And
>> Yep. It's tough already.
>> Yep. Yeah, it is not easy, but you will
deal with it.
[Music]
All these people are so eager for school
to start.
>> I know.
>> And I'm like, and I laugh and I laugh at
them. Like, you're so lucky. Like, like,
you put your kid on the bus and you see
them at home at 4:30.
>> In all fairness, a lot of these people
who are eager for school to start are
clueless about what their child's
experience of school is and and don't
want to be clued in.
I'll take that, I guess, as a compliment
to myself. Thank you.
>> Yes, you should. You should. Yes, you
should take as a compliment. It is a
compliment. Yes.
Okay.
>> I just want I also just want them to
know that I'm really trying. As much as
they call me and they tell me I needed
they send my money for me with
professionals, I'm really trying. And I
just I wish that it was it was seen that
she's also trying even when she's
struggling.
She if she's biting her tongue for an
hour, it's an hour that she bit her
tongue and that's that's a a you know
that's uh whatever. Anyway,
I'm show you another call is so
>> y
Okay, listen. It's going to be good.
It's going to be good. It's all going to
be good.
>> And it has to be good. So,
>> yeah. Okay. Lots of
>> Thank you very much.
>> Okay. My pleasure.
>> I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I mean,
>> okay.
>> The phones are a right.
>> That's right. Well, that's true, too.
Yes. Yeah. But I'm not wishing any agra
on you. So, I mean, I'm not wishing any
tyra on you. You could have the agra
without me. Okay, good.
>> Yeah, you can have the agra without.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you.
>> Be well. Okay.
>> Thank you very much. Have a good father.
>> Yeah. Good chas. Okay.
>> All right. Wow. That's intense stuff. I
don't know. I'm probably going to delete
this whole episode. First half of it is
me doing that uh stream of consciousness
with Ellie and the second half of it is
me comparing schools to being whipped
with a chain.
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Yeah. Someone was like, "There's
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Okay. Oh, we just got a nice donation
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And then Ellie, next year in Tahiti,
I got a treaty with Tahiti because I own
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[Music]
Oh my gosh. Okay, hold on a second.
Today, one second. One second. One
second. Yeah. Hello. You're on You're
You know how it's etiquette to tell
someone you're on speakerphone? If
you're in the car and you say you're on
speakerphone,
you're on YouTube live right now.
Yellow. Hello. You're on YouTube live.
I don't hear you.
Hold on a second. I don't hear you.
What's going on?
Let me just make sure that the Bluetooth
is working.
I don't know why I don't hear you.
Should hear you.
I don't know. I don't should hear you.
Hello. Hello. Hello.
I don't know. Try again. I'm going to
hang up. Try again. Okay.
Ellie says, "Next year in Tahiti." That
is a reference to the antipities
by Hashem.
We've spoken about that before.
Spoken about that.
Uh let's just take one more look and
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Okay. No. Nothing but more. Okay. Ladies
and gentlemen, boys and girls, children
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One second.
Okay. Hello.
>> Hi, Rabbit.
>> You know that you're on YouTube live
right now.
>> Okay. Thank you for telling me.
>> Okay. All right. I'm very tired. And you
said all just text me. He said, "End the
show. You're tired." because he knows
I'm tired and I'm sloppy. So, I'm going
to do this quickly. Yes, sir. How could
I help you, sir?
>> So, was that Ellie?
>> Yes, Ellie. Yes.
>> Yeah, it was great. I liked it. The
whole
>> You liked it? I thought it was fun. I
thought he was a lot of fun. I got some
comments.
>> I got some negative comments in the
chat, but I think those were just
jealous people.
>> Yeah. Always have those types.
>> Yeah.
>> But that was good. It was great.
>> Yeah. So, I'm calling about two things.
U I'll just You can choose which one you
want to respond to. No connection. I'm
watching the YouTube live. I read
through the description. It says if you
have a top, please email info
forwards.org, which I did
>> and we will give you the call number. I
didn't get it. Fine. Okay.
>> And it says
period. I Googled it. known already like
>> said the screenshot I'm like what could
that mean a hoot
>> so what's that number one
>> yes
>> a hoot what is a hoot
>> is that a typo is that liberates
>> okay so I'm going to tell you a little
bit not everything but it was not a typo
and it was spelled exactly as a hoot is
spelled a h o o t some people spell it
so you know what it
I want the to know.
>> Okay. You want the to know. All right.
>> Yeah. So that's correct. You pronounced
it perfectly actually.
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>> Yes.
>> And then the second question is and it's
a real question. Um I know I don't know
exactly. I never learned this before.
Maybe I did see this so I don't
remember. I know the Reb spoke about
something to be very sensitive about
non-cosher animals like not showing them
and not you know especially
so like you know a wolf a beer anything
not kosher obviously a kazer that's okay
that even you know but I think even like
a wolf a beer and a donkey things that
are not kosher animals we're very
careful not to show it and I saw someone
on x.com he has a handle Math Yan.
>> Yeah.
>> And he writes he's like basically I'm
not going to say word for word
>> one of those Twitter lates him.
>> Yes. And he had brought up a good point.
He's like you have
Zevul.
These are all wolf the beer. These are
names of Jewish children in Hebrew and
Yiddish. Like Ary is is a lion. Lab in
Yiddish is lion. These are usually
paired together. She could have any
parents be like, "Please don't give any
stuffies of trace animals to my son. Are
you saved do?"
>> Yeah.
>> So, and I thought that was a valid
point. It actually got me thinking
and then it triggered like hang on. I
know that we do have like on a paras in
many shows you'll see like two lions you
know
in the vilar even there's a lion
>> and uh yeah so so I'm just wondering
like what's up with that like kosher not
kosher but we put
>> okay so first of all I just want to
tease a little bit here that it is
>> in office we do say by the
Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. Like like the war in Israel was
was was
Yeah.
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Yeah.
>> Yeah. Specifically
compared to animals
that was
of
I believe.org5785
explains how going the extra mile is
she says sure
is not about the 10 par 11 par double
the price of 10 it's it's
like it says in
verses 14 and 15
>> very good
>> which by the way you can still download
forwards.org575
5785. You can download the study
companion or I can actually send it
which I sent by the way Rabbit.
>> Yeah.
>> Um so you know I manage your WhatsApp
account.
>> Okay.
>> On a monthly basis and I don't mean to
plug but I posted if anybody wants a
hard copy feel free to message me. I
sent out today 20 in the mail. So it
cost me a $125 and they decided to say
I'm that was my little stop and they
sent out to about uh uh 20 people 25
people I don't remember exactly 20
people about 25 I did it they're going
to get it in the next two three days
most of them actually were even in New
York there was one international
>> international was 250
>> London
>> the guy's like oh I'm happy to pay for
it here's my tati's number you could
could get my bank. He has my money. You
could get the money from him. And uh so
I was like, "You don't have to." And I
was like, "It's okay, but if you want
his I said, "Here's my my info. You
could just have your Tati, you know,
send the money." And then he's like,
"No, I have this other things I need to
talk to him about first." It seemed like
there was a lot of trauma there. So I
just deleted it and I said, "Never mind.
It's all good. I'm happy you got it and
you'll get it soon and enjoy." Anyways,
my point is the animals are the kosher,
non-cooser. It seems like on one hand
they play a role in Judaism. On the
other hand, it seems like it was like,
"Yeah, don't show."
>> So, I was about to say I wanted to tease
a little something
>> which is there's I
>> We're not going to talk more about the
hoop because we revealed part of it and
that's enough to reveal for now.
>> For now.
>> Correct.
You You've revealed the pronunciation of
it. By the way, it's like the the the
Kangaldo saying the sham shyim kipper.
Eventually they had to stop doing it
because people were misusing it. So you
revealed how to properly pronounce a h o
t and I hope it won't be misused by
people who have
um the wrong intentions.
So your question I just want to tease
this for a second that there's a
possibility I heard a rumor of a shir
maybe starting after
uh
>> starting from bious
I spoke I spoke
on it
>> okay
in English now okay so here here we go
we're looking.
Um
we are on if you want to follow if you
have home page 309.
Okay. This is
1983.
Correct. Okay.
So interesting. Is it in Yiddish or in
Hebrew?
Sounds like it's going to be Hebrew. And
then it says
Now is the place to mention something
that we heard from the
it's also brought in.
Yeah, this is talking about magazines
and newspapers.
Uh
They have pictures that are meant to
attract people or children.
And for whatever reason, for many
reasons, many of these pictures, these
images are images of animals.
Right.
>> That would be like that would be like if
I would include a picture of in in the
study companion available at
soulwords.org/7.
>> Correct.
>> I have the PDF. I I pulled it up.
It's most appropriate that we should
only use uh illustrations and pictures
of animals and wild animals that are
>> see number one and and birds and and uh
and fish sea life that is okay and
a Jew and especially a Jewish child has
to
anguate
in holding things,
>> right? Used to accustomed to, right?
>> Okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on, hold on. We need to do number one
because that really gets to the heart of
the issue right there in the very
beginning. Okay.
>> Can you share the PDF on your screen?
>> What?
>> Can you share the PDF on the on your
screen so the student could follow?
>> I could put it in the Oh, could I share
it?
>> No, no, no,
>> no. the way you do it at the sour house.
>> No, I can't do that. Um, I don't know.
You all, is there any way to share it
here? I don't think so. I don't think I
can.
>> I don't think I could share it here.
>> Okay, Umashino, let's do number one.
Okay, let's go through it. Let's unpack
it.
>> That's why, by the way,
the sword's house has features which you
do not have in your garage.
>> Correct.
Okay.
>> Yeah. But I was really following along
anyway.
>> Yes. And you'll take you'll make a clip
later.
test of the safe potato and this that we
find in many in many.
>> This is a question. In other words, it's
a question and a person might challenge
you just said you just said when you're
putting out
>> right and this
ah you may ask why do you see exactly
like I just asked animals such as a lion
and and and and eagles on the par of
kadesh and on the mal
>> and on the crown of a safe potato.
>> Yeah. Which I believe the Reb by the way
a deer is kosher. No
>> deer is kosher. Yeah.
>> Yes. I believe on the
wanted a deer
the reason for this is what's we just
now said
is
it's that's it's the reason for that is
to remind people as a as a visual
reference that and do serving in general
has to be like
and and it's taken from the end of
>> Yeah. So the that's the reason for it
says okay but still how does that fit
with just now saying
are not
go ahead
>> perhaps we can say
I'm going to blow it up a little bit
because it's hard hold on I got to blow
it up
trying to make it bigger
perhaps we could
that it's similar to the Marava what
not the Makova tank the Makava the um
chariot
the chariot of uh Yzko
it's the vision actually that is uh the
haftra of
>> which of corresponds to uh matra.
Why? Because
it's a gile of course a high level of
revelation.
Um there was a chariot. This is the
image. It's not a real chariot. Doesn't
exist anywhere but it's in the image in
the vision of the prophet. You saw the
chariot and on the chariot there was the
face of a lion, the face of a of an
eagle. Although you know that's I don't
want to get into a whole side discussion
but uh you know that the zoo rabbi
Sliffkin
and
>> so he says the neureer is a vulture
>> that's what he said doesn't matter point
is whether it's an eagle or a vulture
it's not kosher okay so you could say
perhaps it's like the marova where it
has a lion it has a eagle
and then there's a little star, little
asterisk, and you go to the bottom of
the page.
Should we do the asterisk now or should
we come back to it? Let's go back.
So if you look in the alter
where in the section of my migill
actually it's in many places
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why is why is there a lion in a an eagle
or a vulture on the
prophetic vision of the chariot?
is saying
that um
how do we break this up?
Yeah. Okay. That in its I think that's
what it's saying. That in its shish and
its spiritual root above it's very very
lofty. And this is what this explains.
And then when it comes down, it comes
down very low asusimat
regarding.
Okay. So first of all, regarding the
images of these impure animals, some of
it is to invoke the principles that we
say that you're supposed to be like
these animals. You should be strong like
a lion and swift like an eagle and all
that. And and the and the reason is
because these animals represent the
marava. So animals that are in the
marava have a certain spiritual
um virtue to them that we're supposed to
emulate.
And what about on the images of the
flags of the tribes
pediculty
all of these uh images were connected to
the
personality.
I don't know if you'd say the
personality of a shvet but you know
>> characteristics
>> characteristics beautiful
characteristics of the shvet
italics
and because they had these properties
they had to have they had to have this
had to have that particular
>> what you say so you say the ones of the
and basically is an exception
Or
>> bottom line, are we allowed to Is that
what it's saying?
>> Yeah, that's what it's saying.
No, by the way, is D
>> exception.
>> Okay,
>> exception, but it sounds like he's
giving a reason.
>> Let's do the
>> asterisk. Let's do the asterisk.
Okay.
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Uh, bas
ya.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I see this. This is not this
is not this is not for 11:37 Eastern
Standard Time call. I see the the next
thing says in the med over here there's
there's there's different things which
are connected with a mouse. I think that
was referring to Mickey Mouse. Not
joking.
>> So there's Mickey Mouse.
There's also a lameo
had Mendel the mouse and Mendle and and
Aluo actually was going bankrupt and
they came to the Rebea and the Reb gave
them money from Americas to be able to
continue.
>> I heard about that to
>> Yeah.
>> publish a Torah.
>> Yeah. And then they had Mendle the M.
>> I think they I think they even I
actually asked them about it. I once had
a meeting with them. I was trying to get
them to sell my visualizing terror
projects. Yeah.
>> So he mentioned about the square the
round. He just pointed it out. So like
it triggered the I told him the story. I
said is it true that the reb? So he said
listen I haven't been around since then.
I think it was Robert Clyde but he said
listen the from Satar
also once gave I'm pretty sure he said
that. So he said I'm not surprised if
the gave money to to
then for sure the
was a bigger
if I remember correctly did not this is
not the start
so uh speak
>> we're still live right now
>> we're still live
>> yeah I have to behave Yeah.
>> Yes. I see I see it's actually quite the
says also that uh uh people had their
their signatures the stamps had had even
animal
has to do with parenting
in general.
>> It's a very interesting thing that yes
that many of the
which of course is the birthday of the
Reb the fifth.
Many of theans
have an a lengthy exposition on
principles of of education.
>> Seamless parenting. Interesting.
>> Yes, it's a very common theme parenting.
>> Don't you have a parenting course of a
child?
>> Yes, I do have a parenting course. We
had over 2,000 satisfied mothers and
fathers who have been through the
parenting course.
And you're not putting it into a book
yet, huh?
>> No, not yet.
>> Not yet.
>> Got to milk it before you can. That
makes sense. Yeah. Yeah.
>> The reality is the book would be very
different. This is an immersive
experience. It's a six week course.
>> I know you have interactive interactive.
Yeah,
>> it's a whole thing.
>> I heard you're making interactive now in
person at the Solar Center.
>> Well, nobody knows that yet, but you
just revealed it that we are going to do
inerson.
We're going to explore the possibility
of an in-person option.
>> That's going to be a premium though.
>> That's Yeah, it's a high ticket item.
We're going to have a separate I mean we
did this online and for sure we'll do it
in person as well. Separate men's and
women's groups.
>> So this this actually looks like a type
of I would want this like a very
fundamental I mean like you know very
famous thing about
>> Yeah.
>> about kosher animals.
>> We have to do it properly.
>> Gota do it right. We gota do prepare it
properly. pull up all the sources.
Wouldn't that be nice? Pulling up the
sources. You could pull up the
>> Yeah,
>> split screens. Show make a whole hand.
Yeah, we could do that. Evergreen. I
like that.
>> That would be evergreen, by the way.
>> It would. Of course. It's a very
fundamental with shots like this.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Take a like really lay it out
nice.
>> Yeah.
>> Maybe we should do that for the baby. 60
in 60 years actually. Yeah, it is a
whole other
>> a lot of people don't realize that uh
yeah the hag was really the deba's first
safer
>> and yeah as you mentioned 60 years
>> not 60 years 80 years
>> 80 years right was the first safer touch
>> but that that's the
taking from the freedom
>> was more right right
>> so
>> even though there was a lot of in that
officially as well
>> yes Yes,
>> I think commented I think commented
about it also
>> and people don't realize the depth of
>> it's not just from
letters it's it's there's a lot of depth
>> right yeah
>> we revealed parenting we revealed the
weekly
um
a little bit of a hoot
>> yeah discuss a different time
Um,
okay.
Okay. Parenting weekly.
What else?
Any programs coming up with the Sward's
house?
>> I don't think
>> I saw your status today. You had you had
a nice group. A nice group.
>> Group. Akan, Ohio. We had a nice group
from Akran, Ohio. Yeah. Barashem.
>> Yeah.
Um,
>> post that picture on Instagram so we
could see.
>> Yeah. And I tagged uh
Misha Sankin who was the rabbi who
brought them.
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Oh my goodness. I'm really wiped out and
I got to learn Rambam still.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, that's actually okay. No, no.
Thank you for taking the call.
>> Yeah, we'll we'll properly do the Sikha
sometime. We really should. I think it's
like it's evergreen.
>> It's evergreen.
>> I can imagine. I think I would imagine
also the hair probably has a nice uh
>> nice uh
>> call Yasi and ask him if he has
something.
>> Sure. I'm sure he has something on it.
>> Yeah. But we should do something great.
>> Great stuff. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. I'm going to
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I look
forward to to the next uh next good
stuff coming up. Thank you for doing
this on a weekly basis.
>> My pleasure.
>> And by the way, the campaign I see your
mom is almost there.
>> Almost done. We're almost done. We're
almost done.
>> About 10,000 left.
>> 10,000. That's it. That's it.
Yeah. Not even. I 581. Well, before we
leave, let's just do the math real
quick. I'm just going to do my little
calculator here. One second.
>> Yeah. This morning, you sent out an
email. broke it down basically like
different strategies how how to reach
the goal.
>> 581
>> 330
- 600,000
is 18. Okay. Divided by 2. Okay. We need
$9,335.
That's it.
>> 9,000
>> 9,335. 9335.
9335. We're just 9. We're we're we're in
four digits now. We used to be in five
digits. Now we're in four digits.
>> So if we divide that into let's say $36.
So you need 259 people. But if you do it
over certain amount. Okay. You have a
whole email class. I explained
everything. Okay.
>> All right. I'm
do it.
>> All right. Thanks for the call.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
play this book.
>> What a beautiful call. Such a nice call.
Someone's writing in the chat, "Hi,
Rabbit. Big fan. I always learn a lot
from you. It drives me a little crazy
that there are many tangents from
callers. If someone calls in, I wish
they'd get to the point. I don't have
patience." So, I just want to share
something with you. Usually, the call-in
show is like people call in with like
deep issues and I like try to cut to the
heart of it. I didn't do that pretty
well sometimes. with Hashem's help
tonight. I just wanted to kind of just
I don't know, just chat. So, it was a
little bit looser. I hope that's okay.
It's just a little bit loose this time.
Just, you know, having fun.
Just having fun.
Hope that's okay.
Okay.
Um, we're going to end the stream. Thank
you everyone. Don't forget charity.comst
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See?
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