Latest Talks Podcast - Ep #69 | Guest: Yerachmiel Stern

connection. It's going to put you in a space today and by tomorrow it it you don't know the impact it leaves. >> Psychiatry wears off actually handicapped for life. actually can change the community. >> Anything you do should not take on a life of its own. [music] 60 seconds, a licensed clinical social worker. Um, executive director Agency therapists in the field community compromised entertainment. deterience. So next travels episode 56 million individual families from the hospital was $150,000 $15 members and bill is covered. So $499 out of pocket medical expenses of the hospital selected networks reimbursement rates of 91498300 visits of united.org mention latest gift cards support advertisers. Um obviously history behind him obviously personal history obviously is the CEO which is Williamsburg and people mention. So speech therapy, speech therapist program, Toro College, grad school, social workshap generations in in social work grad school 2008 2007 therapy in the community grad schools for the soth Like, how was that? went to flap and hunt. Yeah. career beginning. So intern group home severe and persistently mentally ill population people who have Um diagnosis struggles internship clinic one-on-one counseling career in the job of the second year internship. Yeah, exactly. So in turn, let me explain for a second. you know, Mr. Shing actual mention the company was operated alliance internon oneonone in in the clinic alliance in the in the outpatient clinic alliance kinder at the moment clinic supportive housing met women's residence men's residence that's all it was at the time it was a clinic in Williamsburg of 18 at Middleton demol the clinician therapist at the time and oh wow freestanding clinics outpatient clinics women's residents community-based mental health program so in Wow. But this CEO in 2014 CEO Dr. clinic park. So therapist and so clinics is of Kensington 18th Avenue in Kensington. Clinic is clinic park. So clinic on 18th Avenue on 53rd Street Clinic. So you know plitling >> was an anchor role in the community throughout. >> Yeah. So no is is the organization was handling the oil clinic. It's the organization in 1983. This is the canon providing therapy mental health services. So biz 1983 1983 yeah companies but the trailblazers you know in Williamsburg When we came to Barkies under the mental health clinics, but nobody for the So 43 years. Yeah. >> Wow. This is a impressive number. Okay. So this afternoon in the company but Dr. Schindler. Um but mental health this was his vision forang. He wanted to um really build build a mental health uh of conglomerate conglomerate mindat is a showing days conglomerate mind. Yeah. Okay. So, piece by piece. So doctor's office psychiatrists therapist in the in the outpatient clinic in therapist in the in the girls schools in therapist on site health insurance. So health insurance. So this is this is the the big bulk service community services but the big the flagship service is um bias therapy parenting therapy groups group therapy. We have um play therapist. >> The mention was incred as as a regular person in the street. regular mention. Um our processes insurance intake work the file reports therapist. We try to get it right. Not always do we get it right on the first chance. I would say 60 to 70% of the time we do. But uh and director membershire. [snorts] Saddaf psychiatry therapy group. So I get the question. So besides You know, but um best therapists know the best therapist, the best interns. Um the you know for profit organization so therapist thrive training institute um trainers training modalities and they attract therapist. So provide training resources for training. Yeah. Yeah. Training in the in the modalities that are of evidence-based modalities. evidence based mind modalities versus accepted. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, recently updated, you know, it's something that will push forward and it's not something that works. conservative. Let's step. So we we it's easy come easy go. There's two ways you could answer it. There are government programs that are have come and gone. The governmentalities the the field evolved over the years. specialty oriented. Um, the case not a therapist yet. intern case load therapist. schools of thought behavioral model which was a CBT model uh which is cognitive behavioral therapy learning theory behavior stopping their behavior controlling their behavior. So this reversed some behavior school of thought psychoanalytic school of thought You have to unlearn it, you know. So therapist play the classic play therapy psychoanalytic psychonamic CBT >> was mind play therapy >> play therapy minds communicate. So in other box arty psychoanalytic psychoynamic therapy for the linkad The modalities of sophisticated one size fits all. There's no more analytic complicated modalities is the source from the is a model says a mean form So modality certain. So a model is like models of the patient. So complicated and sophisticated patient problems the problem created. So obviously kickst individually and specifically is that correct? This is the show. The the modalities is ingredients. problems. EFT emotionally focused therapy. behavioral role. So introspective model. Interesting. Average. You are divine again. relationship lifestyle. So second therapy maintenance severe persistently and mentally ill services or there are people who just want to stay in therapy. But is a waste of time and a waste of time at that point. >> Yeah. you're not moving on, right? If if somebody is living and they're, you know, a very high functioning family, person within a high functioning family. And but for the roof. You know, you know, I'm therapist. part of the issue. So psychologist therapist or social worker separate treatific therapist, you know, therapist therapist, professional, but a franch nonetheless. journey [snorts] >> the patterns the patterns >> the baseline. Yeah. So I would say more people stay with the therapist. to therapist. crisis. therapy psychiatrist psychiatrist. So therapist psychiatrist mentions in our group the groups but this is subjective. luxury kosher villa says the best shine plate. WhatsApp 3054989 luxury kosher.com okay subscribe like comment share and platform to the episode. Yeah. in it became a norm for help and change in the community in so many different levels you know specific but at the same time the actually can change the community the actually was the goal is tip like abused to a certain extent because of government funding because you know a lot of different certain specific agendas and so on the actual you know You know, I'll ask you a question. Actually, you know, what would you want to do? Would you want to keep it to yourself or would you want to share it with somebody? This is the this this is the us back in the day community. Sovival mode and so on so forth otherwise you know Because life was so hard the basic necessities in life can't just you know survival black and white the demand. black and white, you know, mention. So you know existed. Wow. ments to the community. You know I mention is just the fact the blind spot and they don't matter and if you don't fight to the top automatically you know the bottom and you know of the phones, you know, because you you miss the human touch throughout the day and the week, which is terrible. point that um yes, personal attention and um and and and again back then of English. Linear, black and white, simple. survival. in mention head of the cup. As for struggled therapist mention complicated technology and double life to mention mention mention double life talking about double life proud of and and and and they don't want to uh share it with their normal social circle. >> So at the end of the day, it eats them up. It eats them up. This double life eats them up. Whatever it it is. And and and they could eat a person up, especially in today's society. struggle. We're not so safe anymore in the gas. There's no more of like, oh, I'll just deal with it on my own. I'll figure it out on my own. It doesn't work anymore. So, it made therapy a necessity. It it it made it almost and and the the objective is is to get people to feel comfortable talking to a therapist. That's the big objective. And uh mostly accomplished at this point mentions feeling comfortable. for the therapist. The client alliance. So what does survival type of life certain struggles and let's say back and pile up in the brain and the and the tank fills the horn in the brain and and the pain. So this sort of you speak your mind, you know, and this is sort of the therapist technically. >> Yeah. The therapist get therapy. Safe space days. Two days. Two days. the the therapist, the client and and and this is this is it saves people's lives. This this because of hearts. Mechanis. Okay. Right. Right. Mentor can guidance. You have to find that life. Life is not easy, right? And a lot of the host friends, you know, that's that's sort of something Look, you just to go more it could lead to so many uh mental health disorders. Um you're talking nervous breakdown schizophrenia emotions very um you know overall exactly um there's there's um borderline struggles that people struggle bipolar. This is personality. This is this is there's bipolar which is the mood goes from very uhic physiological effect in the brain um hormones in the brain activated activated. Ah this is me bipolar. >> Um which which also can can come from it can come on multiple fronts of something. to do all any any health any health uh struggle that anyone has there had to have been some um you know exactly exactly triggers. So >> exactly and there's borderline is more a personality based Bipolar is me depressed being depressed and being manic. Depressed minded um borderline is more of the but the personality Again at the same time, yeah. A personality dynamic. And these all can be triggered by [gasps] harboring. People are young and you know in and And then before you know it, you know, you don't know it's not healthy and innocently mental health. We're very to today we're very sophisticated in knowing these disorders and and almost what not exactly what causes what but roughly what causes what and what could trigger what and what kind of lifestyles can trigger different uh struggles. So early in the process. Well, is in the in the in the schools in the in the in the in the in the schools, you know, a principal will see a problem in the classroom. The principal the parent integrated Socially therapist advocate lawyer moving parts, teachers, principles, so ah okay. So this is this is how it starts in in you know and you know um the principal the therapist alliance focusing and see a psychiatrist in the clinic one-stop shop >> this is northern Williamsburg then park >> mhat locations in Williamsburg park Um Lakewood Monroe. But do the yeah of Williamsburg Impact clinic therapist for affordable pricing or or for free. services. Yeah. >> Um psychiatrist um do psychiatrists do uh psychologists. So do social workers, do mental health workers, um specialists do categories the categories and dividing categories and the differ. Hello. Unfortunately, is an Italian espresso. The espresso is authentic Italian pizza. Anything is possible drinks. Thank you for sponsoring the episode. It's really appreciated. The levels psychiatry, psychiatry, psychology, psychiatry, >> psychiatry, social work, mental health counselors. >> So the differences between this Psychiatry Freudman Freud psychiatrist. Um, psychiatrist MD was medication. They all medications medication. A psychiatrist is a specialty in understanding if the mo and chemicals hormones in the moy and the mention psychology and so for psychology in the eyeballing social workers clinical setting. Um, social workers social work, a clinical social worker. Exactly. Exactly. Social policy into psychology. Social work isin social work social work. It's a clinical mental health counseling offshoot psychology. The schooling is psychology schooling. Social work schooling is diluted. Social work schools psychology psychology. So do psychology and psychiatry. Yeah. >> So psychiatry prescriptions. Yeah. >> Psychology from the patient medicine. >> Nine. Nine. So the social worker psychologist mention IQ tests and different diagnostic evaluations from psychology mean >> psychology is made research. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Psychologists. Psychology jobs. What is the job? This is the psychologist diagnostic workup psychologist like was triggered the core from the problem the tests of their menes. food is actually accurate. So I got chemical testing, I got reactions and like machinery, other scans [clears throat] and a psych psychiatrist psychiatrist. Psychiatrist psychosoccially history. So psychologist and psychiatrist. Yeah. Yeah. Psychologist specialty tests. Psychologist tests. Psychiatry is medicine. Psychologist is test. And social workers and mental health counselors do do more therapy in the room and postchooling they go more for a specific specialty. the psychology schooling get the key of the of the of the of the field. But the schooling degree, the social workers, the mental health counselors and uh and they become they they they learn and or you know >> hands on me. for the concepts I made hands on hands on. >> Okay. And a social and the reason why a social worker is like that is because social working and technically was the psychologist practitioner nurse practition The nurse practitioner experientially formal setting psychologists formal setting. social worker. So this is the social worker. Yeah. The mental health, >> the mental health council, social work, schooling, social policy, schooling platform, psychology mean schooling. mental health clinical in the room mental health. So they decided that they're going to make something versus social worker but me clinically focused clinically um because social worker only evolved into that over the years. Mental health figured and then it became like a competition with psychologists. Mental health said let's just make it psychology, social policy. >> So, so a mental health counselor is technically psychologist. Come out. Come out. >> So the psychologist so mental health counselor social worker complicated tests mental health. This isn't the basic level and the last guy made advance theories in the room. So a psychologist in the room a one sizefits all. Social worker modality mean therapeutic training theory psychologist. So psychologist diagnostic tests and social workers have more of this in the room specialty >> and the mental health >> mental health of a social worker do social work schools that are much more clinical compete with the mental health. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else? Health home program health homes the home should be healthy. Um the government lately basically kicked the family. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's exactly what it is. >> Yes. It's it's basically case manager social worker case manager case managers linear push Soon Z connecting resources in the resources. therapy because the basics necessities in life triggered under the problems and as the basics the basics is fixing the basinical therapy. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Successful health programs group therapy. Um, mindfulness groups are the group therapies. >> Group therapy is therapist. Parenting um popular um DPT groups. It's dialectical behavioral therapy. Um it's very similar to CBT but it's it employs it's skills [sighs and gasps] mention a letter. Okay, next room specific subject lately. I'm not sure but is this idea like something providing services? >> No, this is closed setting. >> This is a course. Yes. Mindfulness techniques skills. struggles groups. So if IFS is internal family systems parts from the brain feelings parts from the brain mind apart from the brain from the brain. Exactly. IFS group actually the brain was the brain modality perspective struggles group theory formal setting group leader assistant group leader semester. Interesting. So groups so okay groups art therapy groups art groups art therapy mine therapeutic message and bring the actions. >> Yeah. So the reality is handsis therapy art groups. um groups, >> mindfulness groups for men, which mindfulness is is the is the DBT um modality mindfulness mindfulness see basically to slow to be able to slow down your life. food to slow it down. It's a pink. So theory group mindfulness group like yeah do mention the topic In mention struggles in the group leader mindfulness mindfulness. So the group for mindfulness problems and because a group Exactly. Pink. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Addictions work. Um Amulat um um the addictions clinics believed that the dimensions was kind of addict but um problem. So mental health in general. So clinic sophisticated modalities the therapist can struggle and struggle this is showing aha service. So this specific problem experience struggle in the [clears throat] area. Exactly. Exactly. Of specific categories. So, you know, struggle, but was in a thrill. Yeah. Struggles, problems. experimental stages. Yeah. Yeah. addiction on the ground. So this is this is >> basically exactly exactly when you have it in a group setting but similar struggle. Yeah. Yeah. >> Interesting question. Um connection. >> Yeah. So, so the question, you know, this is the the the uniqueness organization. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, you know, but you know was the city and >> Exactly. Exactly. Are there individual mention in the company in the organization director therapist throughout the years? Wow. Wow. I have to have the names tip of my tongue like because like literally means that you know the pendulum has shifted a lot towards you know therapies ground is on the same page as you You know, we got a point in the community. You know, organization was handling therapists. I got calls from from from Rebes in Bora Park. Maybe it's because I knew them personally. I grew up with them. That's Kenzan. But updates updates. No fault of this relief rather the burdens of >> Exactly. Wow. Yeah. Topic but recently and a popular topic down the line. And the perfect depending opinion information the K providing of the of the subject. The subject is M medicine. um advancements in the field for medicine obviously the basics back in the day and experiment ideas because 100% I don't want to reveal it yet um I guess uh you know specific mention of some like certain issues slow down. Two basic medicines. This is a different mean of medicine. This is medicine was uh a specific space on a specific therapy vibe was officially regular setting. Third party area. issues in the life, right? Versus the standard medicine which is Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Down the lineage. >> Wow. Opinion. >> My opinion. Look, our general approach to medicine and psychiatry, but our opinion with psychiatry is mere a conservative approach. Um, and villain yo yo yo get get this is this is not what they want. They want more gave him therapy. organically struggle. So this is agency. Obviously there are people who have like we mentioned earlier bipolar and different schizophrenia and all these different diagnoses and disorders that >> chemical imbalances actually handicapped for lifeapy person. Psychedelics recreationally. This is Andre. decision. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But last resort. That's a strong way to put it. But you know, the drugs refined institutions about the medicine side effects. They told us for the medications Zia refined. So the psychedelics refined way in the trial phase cars right the V6 engines and fleid V4 turbo, but we don't know in 10 years, 20 years how that engine's going to last. So, exactly what you said with the psychedelics. You don't know how it's going to play out, what impact it's going to have on the brain. Fore coaches. obvious why would you do to yourself it's not fun you know could be at the moment the experience but addicted to something that's it doesn't even make sense for drug >> exactly cop an expect withdrawal symptoms down it's also terrible you know you know medical advice I'm not social advice but man opinion on on as you know for specific you know okay good but the rest why like I don't understand to say is specific guidance on the minute because life you know he has to take it out you know take it that one time and do yourself works it's not it's not easy it's not a shortcut to anything. It's actually work just at the moment, you know, unfortunately a regular match. But then goal is regular match therapy. So guidance throughout and that's the beautiful part of it unfortunately over you know and mention for no good reason because I'm gay for rent and that's where the damage happens not where the problem gets solved also. opinion. I I completely Mr. Therapeutic modalities muscle memory working out in a gym. the muscles. But shows the moist wears off. basically control you know that can help you to stay alive but 200 ft. That's my same opinion because Click of a button help me a work in progress and this is life and if you're going to find that shortcut you know airplane okay good technology good no problem but was and you know like what are you doing like what >> yeah 100% 100% yeah >> that's how I look at it >> it it it's true it's true you have to stay grounded you know today it's going to put you in a space today and by tomorrow it you don't know the impact act it leaves in you. You know, it's not it's not responsible to to live like that, >> right? >> You want to do something that has longevity, you know, on one end in in this world, clean eating, organic and shine. You progressive vague. Y mentions the goal is a functionable man. Exactly. But if the goal is to the experience, then you lost the whole idea. You >> lost the whole idea. Yeah. >> They'll tell you. >> They'll tell me. [laughter] Exactly. Exactly. Like like based vegetarian law. The whole idea of being a vegetarian. Now for it against it. I couldn't care less. But that's also the opinion is a vegetarian. You lost the whole idea of being a vegetarian. >> Right? It should anything you do should not take on a life of its own. >> Right? balance is you know alcohol right so an interesting topic you know discussed 60C message. >> 60C message. Wow. Hang in there. The There's better days coming. Um, with every struggle was got food in you should get leadership in in America was you know and and you never know how quickly that happens. >> Thank you so much. I appreciate it and enjoy the conversation and enjoy the episode. Please like family chat like us anywhere and until next time. [music] Highland songs. >> [music and singing]