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insurance plan
is a healthare
membership
program in America
insurance companies
sustainable long-term
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My name is CEO from United Healthare
Toronto
in Toronto Philadelphia
Medical
pressure
in Cleveland.
of the healthare expenses
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insurance
health insurance
from the health insurance marketplace
from the government insurance from the
marketplace
insurance plan.
deductables.
Wow.
Healthare
the bracket was the
middle class
from the government's insurance
for the actual insurance plan. subsidies
expense
insurance. So
health insurance
United States of America poor states
York state mandate
Jersey
Insurance
penalty
insurance
from the government
insurance
as the Medicaid Medicaid is
under 65
insurance.
Medicare
65 Medicaid Medicare.
Okay. Medicaid Medicaid is
Medicaid
insurance
$1,500ish
$1,500
the bill righty.
was actually in New Jersey. Yeah.
Insurance
fine.
New York to New Jersey recently and
mention
of the border of New Jersey. So
yeah
insurance
okay
free insurance for medicaid
So is a healthare
a healthare
insurance.
Okay. A health share is a group of
people, a group of
religious beliefs
to share
the medical expenses from the group.
Those are healthare according to
American law. Those are the definition
for a health share.
So what's the structure from belief?
The belief is
okay. Religious
belief. Religious belief.
Religious belief.
beliefs. So de structure from beliefs
a health
nonprofit nonprofit
the founders
the premium for an insurance company
fund
when the guilt is due. It's all in the
medical expenses from the membership.
basically
whatever it is. Yeah.
fake clarifications. Okay.
According to the law, membertomember
sharing
fund
computer
share funds.
billriv.
Okay. But the back end
memberto member sharing.
Okay. So
personal account. Well, the this is the
government the religious belief is
insurance company
insurance company. Okay.
For profofit for profofit
insurance company.
So
that was a religious belief.
So health
preventative care, sick care, emergency
care,
hospital anywhere in the world,
nonprofit organization, right?
religious beliefs. Okay.
Developed a medical condition.
Yeah.
Okay.
Z
established from December 1999.
Okay.
Or a successor of
from December 1999. And the fifth is an
external audit by external auditing firm
a CPA audit.
December 199.
Okay.
Health sharing
program.
Oh, that's it. Okay.
Okay.
illegal. Okay.
government.
Okay.
beliefs.
Okay.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Watered down beliefs.
Wow.
Not clearly defined religious beliefs.
Clear religion.
program.
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So this is a major issue probably.
Yeah.
Christian beliefs and liberty healthare
Christian healthare
beliefs
member
beliefs.
Oh, wow.
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Liberty
Health Insurance
from the generation
Wow.
Okay.
in Europe
message as the church is a great
deportation
message.
The
given.
Wow.
This is the
healthare.
This is the
healthare
and compromise. And if they're religious
beliefs,
this is the initiative in United
Healthare.
This is the purpose. Our mission, our
mission statement is to ging affordable
health care without compromising on
care. That means
compromise
out of network.
healthare
alternative for insurance
perspective of managing the health.
So
treatment surgery
was care
outcome
right
in the marketplace. The founders
belief system
beliefs
the best outcome. the best outcome for
what is the financial structure for
United Healthshare which is a huge
question I guess and
regular insurance
like
how does this part
Excellent question okay
uh survey
single a couple million right
estimated starting price. Yeah.
Sound estimates
responsible
approved
financials
the health care costs are in every part
of the country
is the breakdown. down. You're going to
have this many from this age, this age,
this age.
The expenses
from the
medical expenses for the members
contributions
out of pocket
medical expense.
increase
or service
increase in cost. And what's the reason
medical expenses
expenses
the payout ratio
for the medical expenses.
Oh wow.
to accumulate
was belonging to the members
the medical expenses from the
membership.
Right. So the members
members for the greatest expense as
possible
payment plans
and then
confidence It's mentioned
members
services in the sharing program
services
for colonoscopy
pre-shape.
Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
for
family history.
Regular well visit. Okay.
Regular visits
lab tests
well visit
well visit well visit.
age two.
Okay. Preventative care. Okay.
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how different
the structure
is
expens.
And the margin is
percent
to pay for health insurance premium in
$1,000.
The insurance company
is the contribution
medical expenses.
This is amazing.
Oh wow.
members,
12,000 members
in New Jersey.
Okay.
In
outside the country outside the country
medical expenses.
Okay. in Canada in Italy
vacation
whatever
sports name is cover different
insurance companies limitations on
hazardous sports okay
special insurance hazardous sports
coverage
food poisoning
Okay. Medical expense members from
United States from America. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
prophets
grocery store
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the store
go.
Why do you make the problem?
price.
The price for an item is the price.
Oh, wow. The rule
for the
nonprofit
employees
Single
a couple
80% from the share fund
20%
the overhead from the organization
systems claim system alone
process and all the claims the software
cost.
Wow.
back office%
expenses medical expenses.
So this is
actually
the medical expenses
the average medical expense for the
family
members and self-pay members.
Okay.
to the doctor.
The bill directly with their card
patient, a self-pay patient,
self
insurance companies. with the insurance
companies
insurance companies because
okay
insurance
a scam
codes
for the insurance company.
extreme
certain
own the company like this like
the UK government get certain grants for
mentions equipments machines
certain amount
something
machine.
Yeah. Maximize the
So
yeah,
self-pay patient
hospitals
lower
insurance company
with the hospitals with the doctors
and case agreements.
negotiated a rate with the provider.
Okay.
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surgical center. Okay. New York
hospital.
Oh wow.
Wow. by the hospital
in the surgical center.
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Okay.
Wow.
medical expenses
by a fraction of the cost.
Bill charges
the bill
on average around 65%.
Wow.
On average.
This is a crazy number.
Oh, it's a crazy number. Yeah.
Yeah. So mention United
mention
back
in 56% 54%
54%
the membership growth
Centers
Google.
They care. They care. I call someone to
talk to
in advertising.
advertising, right?
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I have no but I have no idea what it is
happen at the same time.
So yeah, it's amazing
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of viewers because
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And this is the option.
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So I'm provided like a beautiful amazing
plan. I decided, you know what?
You know
the insurance plan was provided
insurance because
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talent
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of the employees.
network restrictions
in Europe and Asia,
Italy, Mexico.
wire.
This is amazing. So
video
He saved $54,000.
The savings is
insurance employees.
the extra guilt
for insurance.
Oh wow. Okay. This is a a bonus.
by insurance.
This is amazing.
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I'm gaining a lot of knowledge here.
Okay. So
is
the membership structure member? How
does it work?
Okay,
you know, give me that wholeare
advis.
Okay.
Where the holes are, where the gaps are.
Application
125 just application
membership.
Interesting.
Okay.
Fill in medical questionnaire
family member, health history,
surgeries, medications.
Health
records.
Well,
blood tests
application.
Medical expenses
pool.
the sharing community
burden
health insurance
pre-existing medical expenses
limitations of pre-existing conditions
pre-existing conditioning
pre-existing.
Okay.
Limitation
example.
Yeah.
And the doctors
for the surgery.
The limitation
sharing waiver.
Okay.
Membership contribution
premium under health insurance
for a purpose. Our purpose
sharing ministries
insurance company silver gold platinum
deductible premium mentions insurance
brokers
broker
So decided
was the insurance company in lawyer
versus the lawyer sharing organizations.
Mhm.
expenses
deductible pre-shared
monthly contribution is a contribution
contractary
February
free health insurance. No problem.
Let us know the last day of the month.
Renewing the next day. No problem.
Application
pre-existing conditions.
Wow.
The weight
threshold
BMI BMI body mass index
proportional
proportion
BMI obese 35. No problem.
Okay.
35 36 37 38.
Okay.
a member,
right?
That's it.
The healthare alongside other insurance.
There's no problem.
members
gain arise from the state only if it's
an emergency
the whole country
the airport
in the office
an emergency
in New York
hospital New Jersey
no problem.
So it's other state it's no problem
the mention the monthly contribution for
a single is 199 a couple is 3.49 496.
This is the monthly contribution. That's
the fixed fee.
parents. Parents
is 3.49. Got it.
Is $4.99.
So,
so
rules eligible dependent
full-time student
eligible people dependent on in planit
a well visit the well visit lab work and
well visit extra allowance X
for them.
Okay.
$16,000 for the well visit.
Full body cat scans.
Oh, okay.
The billit
is a normal price
service
in Americansion.
A fair price
Medicare is a fair price
$900
price for visit right
50% often
network
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system
using the system. Yeah. So next question
is
visit in 2025 in 2026.
This is a year threshit
visit
50% visit
10%
well visits
the guilt is signed for
bills
receipts
spreadsheet
expenses
within 3 months within 90 days.
The cash flow
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up to 90 days.
Wow.
Experiences. Yes. experience
was the best practice
the system
members
survey members
member
healthare
outach.
So my question is
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therapist. Yeah. Yeah.
Fore
based on the budget was licked in the
pool.
The next
services
membership
is the most requested
therapy. Okay.
Therapy, physical therapy.
Okay. Chiropractors,
chiropractors,
12 visits a year,
medically necessary care,
pain, illness, injury,
doctor, a hospital, a therapist, a
physical therapist, occupational
therapist. the high dollar drugs
medications
in
so income certain% of the budget for
high dollar drugs high dollar drugs
medications
the gaps
the sharing guidelines is
sharing guidelines
compassionate program.
membership.
One
time event
experience, better coverage.
bestify the expenses as I mentioned
it's for the medical expenses
199 349 or 4.99
similar to a deductible
deductible
health insurance medicables
are the premiums.
had the visit
deductible
deductible,000
deductible
right
insurance
similar to deductible
single $1.99 the hinder
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is
the
family
the pre-share which is again similar to
deductible
family
and they sist
The
deductible
system is good for insurance. Insurance
functions for service members. Wow.
Right.
Co-sharing co-sharing%
$100.
Okay.
A maximum. So the maximum
20%
100% okay $1 million incident
million $1 million this is the maximum
single%
medical expenses
$1,000
Okay. So%
is $100.
20%
of $5,000
$5,000
is1,000
up to 20%,000
expenses medical expenses $1,000,000
$1500
for medical $1,500
million 100%
assuming
usual and customary 56% above the
Medicare rates.
Okay.
Medicare 65 and older
fee schedule better reimbursement for
the doctor. Okay.
Okay.
20% co-sharing
the 1,000.
Exactly. If a family is double the
couple that's made for a family up to
20%
made for a family.
Yeah.
It's only 99.
Right. Okay. The next $20,000 expenses
usual and customary rates 4.99 plus 1500
medical expenses 4.99* 129
medical expenses
$4.99 12
pre-share
co-sharing
still saving,000,000
savings.
499*
12. Yeah. Is 59.88.
Yeah. Plus
um 5500
9.
Yeah.
Yeah. So, 1500 for pre,000
for the 20%. Yeah. I sold 11,488
services
less than $1,000,
right? And this is
12.
Oops, sorry. Divided by 12. I'm g the
exact number is $957.33.
Medical expenses
medical expenses.
That's it. Yeah.$4.99
double the $4.99 two. Yeah.
Doctors.
Yeah.
out of pocket
for a second
California
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members from California.
Okay.
The attorney general of California
health shares
investigations inquiries.
Okay.
versions of page.
Okay.
Documentation
pages documentation to support.
Yeah.
Okay.
Legal fees
inquiry.
Okay. basically
religious institutions. Okay. So,
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inquiries
legal fees for inquiries.
Yeah.
Governor
in California. Okay. So interesting.
Interesting. Okay.
medically necessary care
to mind
attack. Okay.
hospital for our treatment.
Bills came out.
Wow.
Guest%
bill charges like%.
Wow.
The build charges
negotiations.
negotiations
facilities with the doctors with the
hospitals
negotiations
missed the successful part from the
organization in negotiations
negotiating service
negotiators.
negotiation.
Wow.
Wow. Percentage of savings.
Bill negotiation services. $100,000 bill
50% help from the savings.
Wow.
Limited sharing.
Waiting period. Insurance
30 days, 60 days, 90 days
coverage.
A waiting period. A limited sharing.
1 million per incident.
limited sharing.
So a cap, a lifetime cap,
up to 25,000
million. Wow. Okay. Basically
overlapping
is let the minute the medic terminates
insurance%
for applications
for members%
They gave a waiver or limited waiver
medical expenses%
vaping very low tolerance.
Viping. Wow.
Wow.
$20,000
previously.
hair test.
It's a condition for membership.
Guidelines
membership. Yeah.
Lifestyle.
Yeah.
Wow. Interesting. Yeah.
Okay.
a diabetic
diabetics with special programs.
Okay.
Well controlled.
Okay.
Yeah, this understandable. Yeah. Mention
as
secrets. Secrets. Secrets.
The whole legal structure.
I mentioned
religious beliefs.
Because
of the internet information,
right? So this
whole 48 page sharing guidelines.
Wow.
So actually excited the fact because
this is
exclusive.
Exclusive. Exactly. And this this is the
beauty as covering certain topics is
kind of
because
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mention families
all goes in the same theme.
the case manager. Case manager,
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he had the surgery, he had the therapy,
he had the
normal doctor's visit
all the members of the surgery.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So beautiful.
to
surgery.
Yeah.
Um
questions
originally
is United
in America.
Is that how you get the question? The
structure for United is under healthare.
Okay.
incident.
Okay.
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Wow. Liberty Healthare.
Okay.
surplus extra guilt.
Oh, the counter members
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$500.
He had an emergency visit
the dollar49
right
maximum
million dollar Billionare.
Yeah. Wow.
Financial structures
medical expenses
significant amounts
$50,000 $10,000
a rumor
expenses
computer
protected privacy protected hippo
telephone
bills.
A guy doesn't mention
nightmares with insurance companies
mention
denials
insurance companies.
Wow. And the game
is
the best.
By the way, the the the hospitals
recently
so mention the hospitals.
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Who cares?
Go to the collection agency.
Credit report
the best care possible.
I get the insurance
hospital for an emergency. Emergency
schedule in a surgery,
right?
Sorry. Clean up the account.
Not for emergency. It's a schedule a
schedule.
Can can
someone wants to go to a surgeon, not
not essential medical care, someone
wants to schedule a surgery with a
surgeon in NYU and he owes NYU.
The doctor the guilt
collection agency
court
agencies and the mortgage
No, it's exist.
They delayed it.
They passed the law, but they delayed
the implementation of the law.
Oh, okay.
So, his thing was still on the credit
report.
Okay. So
yeah
the requirement
anyone
um
health insurance.
Health insurance. You know, I want he
wants to fix the middle class problem.
He wants to make his big beautiful bill
even bigger and more beautiful.
Yeah, exactly. from United States
citizens
and medical bills
from Mexico from United Kingdom
socialized medicine
the country told
I feel the government gives free
healthare
better systems.
free healthcare
membership.
The best selection
is free.
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We don't look whatever it is the best
charity.
We're nonprofit that's here to service
whoever we can service. That's why we're
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a single a couple family. Wow, this is
amazing.
Yeah.
Okay.
From the plus membersh
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is United a Ponzi scheme.
It's an excellent question.
Okay. People ask a question about any
insurance company
as mention
Ponzi scheme.
Fore
for the members
medical expenses from the alter members.
M so
the existing membership in the medical
expenses from the existing members
and this is reinvested in
according to the law
the members
investments
is government protected investment
treasury bills
S&P 500
only if you do that CDs00
the separation
investment against this charities%.
Oh, this is
this is the same concept was
account donor advised funds was
mentioned in a charity account
deductible.
Yeah. Yeah.
Income and so on.
So this is amazing. Okay. The next
question is vo sustainable long-term.
sustainable long-term
medical expenses.
The proportion is a healthy proportion%
medical expenses membership
membership.
The monthly contributions sustainable
long-term means
healthcare specialist auditors
accounts receivable accounts payable
random transactions
the records on the public
records are available to public. Yeah.
Oh wow. So
it's the law
it's available to public
rightations
but other congregations
in February
your price is right. Wow.
Surplus
in the near future
medical expenses
mental health covering. We have 12
visits for our mental health
insurance
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million dollars.
open enrollment
insurance,
right?
Special needs
that child needs ABA therapy
insurance
therapy,
right?
problems
medically necessary.
Right.
Million in incident.
So my question
you know what mental health is an
important thing
double the services or something
professional survey company
mental health
survey
Right.
Dental add-on dental credits.
for dental
50% or 60% for the dental.
This is this is important.
This is my personal opinion backing of
them.
The dental industry for some reason is
the most rundown industry
coverage
you know root canals
it's just
medicry
dental right
it's all out of pocket to get the
by the Medicaid dentist.
This is terrible.
This is the long term. The long term
burden, right? The grace of pain was
60core,
the insurance concepts and health
sharing concepts.
Let's
fight.
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