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Latest Talks Podcast - Ep #34 | Guest: Rabbi Elazar Meisels
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recording
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any in general when the guys speak in
the public
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concurrent rooms right
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that I wasn't there was I there
what say this mention
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motive the agenda
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problem is mention
men this is usually half an hour
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get
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they have a line there that they use a
lot tell your child I love you I cringe
when they say it but that's it's true
tell your kids you like
I love you yeah believe it or not I
thought
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information it sticks around to them
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in public school
48th Street and I'm going to tell you a
big surprise nobody is going to guess
this one
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forever uh no he just retired he went to
Lakewood
okay never mind
okay we can choose whichever we want to
go to as long as it
tells theic yeah yeah freedom freedom of
choice yeah whatever your choice yeah as
long as you do what I tell you yeah okay
Detroit you people don't SC from
them okay
yeah how does this work
that I'll no
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live okay
from the tuition and living in
Detroit uhhuh Detroit
is yeah 129
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here and that's it he was
gone yeah
family business
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don't know if it goes like that today my
kids are not like that it's not the way
it
works you already know beforehand
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in Detroit in Detroit
Detroit wowow
75,000 because the trit economy economy
is the economy is going down
and that's what we
did I developed the network
a motorcycle helmet bike helmet a
motorcycle helmet
motorcycle
helmet I'm happy to see you here
tonight you remember my name you
remember my name he says of course you
come here you say Kadesh I know what you
do you're part of he says wow you're my
friend
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with
you a photographer a
photographer the weekends
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a doctor and is
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University Michigan State
University and I became the rabbi on the
campus the campus about 4,000
how old were you I
was 32 wow 33 so Michigan is v v is the
campus Michigan State n the the campus
the
52,000 52,000 students 52,000 students
it's a huge campus 52,000 students
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families but but this is in a public
school and he connects with thebi
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five miles
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for wow
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yeah no seriously 30 people 30
appointments I like this guy every
day do the day you go you have a car you
go my car was my office next to me I had
all this
farm so I flipped I flipped the script I
did
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in in Michigan in the
college appointments that's what you do
that was my
day you don't schedule that that
schedules you took off understand
but otherwise no you
work into publicly that was two separate
things New York
which part of New York B Park okay 40 48
Street 48th Street move that's right
same house what age around like what
when did I come back I was
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just getting started oh okay and we're
back the break
Michigan
yeah and
and a two family
house and I took over to
school without any prepare no
preparation no training you learn on the
job yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah say like
out of nowhere
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experimental
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my on Google he was sitting there
Googling and saying infection in the
brain memory loss what do you
do
trial in
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right right
wow alimer
is a high
school is grades 9 through 12 okay no
12th grade
yeah
for school who's the teacher
train sure of
course you have to subscribe to $10 a
month for you get plus every other is
just
plus doesn't have satma does not have
but a lot of the
other business lot but what
about what about teachers
for a teacher
for
Teacher over there
in I think it was
1981 by a
conference special
education special
education special education techniques
methods you can reach them you can work
with
them
teachers
teachers he came he
taught degree was a degree a degree is
as
right degree but a degree you only get
in a
college you're not going to be able to
do it if you don't have a degree the
state's cracking down the state's going
to make it that you have to have a
degree is what you're gonna have to do
so he went he
spoke colle
classes
courses professors
professors
1981 the textbooks from the
knowled
TTS special
educ new yorktimes from special
education they'll write about you right
for free so you could do it no problem
or you Chang the
right but that's where it came from
that's where it
started mentioned special
Educators every single person has
special
education the college cus or
whatever by 14th Avenue 47th Street also
from New York
state that's
right
regs regions tests yes
regs no you us they have a certain test
from the
government and they
do the license to G
region and they just make a partnership
and they do it together right and then
you can do it on your premises then you
can do it by you it's a famous thing
already by now
as special Educators in the gun state
from New York colleges in the state wow
pay
College
college
experience experience
special
UC we know how to fix these things so
it's a year to get your bachelor's
degree
wow and you have your master's
degree and you paid maybe $40,000
$35,000 and you're done with all things
course yeah technically it's half hours
me the courses we G the courses on
Sunday Sunday
morning that
way throughout the
daying playing after
hours no
so
for please
it's going to fail I guarantee you I'm
telling you it's not going to
happen because it's not cuz
they takes you got to have commitment
it's not going to work and I'm happy to
say I was wrong it worked did
beautifully it was was a group of 15
young a bunch of them and they came in
they did beautiful and another group
they brought their
and they brought their friends and their
friends and their friends we probably
over the
last over the last six years probably
have about 600 young light wow became
special Educators from the community
through this program number number so
the
organizations
for graduates
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gradu so this therapist therapist
special education
therapist personally oneon-one
through
therapy processing order processing this
order by are processing
this this
Universal techniques
yes you're GNA have a big surprise
you're going to
see
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they three digigit numbers yeah P3 see
it yeah
yeah the community accepted because it
sounds like something
very very slowly very very slow
everywhere nobody also
knows
College College college is a crazy place
you don't want to get near
it College I don't care where I don't
care what if you're not coming to either
my program or something like me it
doesn't have to be me it could be a
different one I have competitors that's
okay a't threaten in a college he has no
business being there you don't know what
you're going to find out over there but
you don't have that
the
men's the men's program at
oh no you get a certification New York
state certification you got a state
certification yeah absolutely that's the
gold tiet as as in stad from
test a certification test and you have
certification from New York you're a
professional LIC you're a professional
you can go into classroom you can go do
whatever you got to do this is the
reason for exist for this now
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nowee in
2023 2027 coming up
right how's he going to know what is
doing exactly so the ter
say the techniques are the techniques
the learning
for
graduates refresher continuing
education like how does it it keeps
changing no no
no even though the daugh is like really
going fast it's not
nopl W so let's Circle back
so what's are the challenges
for challenges to
challenge the first
language say fast right commitment good
commitment that's not the problem they
know how to be good students problem is
English English is a problem
forw letter
even someone who knows English doesn't
yeah
right the signature right
yeah and we also give them courses in
English we take and we we build the
program that it should make sense
foram it can't be the same program it's
not the same program that I'm going to
give to the ladies the they all have
high schools
English so this way we give them the
ability to do it and this is on legal
terms every single thing we do we do
together with the college with
permission is legally required to in the
college no it doesn't work that way they
don't give you a specific paragraph and
if they
do and we say this I have a problem with
and this I have to switch and this is
why and this is what I'm to switch it
with and you work with me and we work
together and they want it they're happy
to% I'm I'm africanamerican
yeah
yeah 14th Avenue
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wow special
education for ABA also AB a Aba ABA
isi do social Works do ab soci special
ed speech right so what is Aba ABA
is Aba yeah ABA meant ADV applied
Behavior Analysis applied Behavior
Analysis that's me in yish
appm fix
autism they have behavioral problems
right A lot of them or they can't get
themselves dressed they can't do things
ABA learn those
but you can fix the behavior you can't
fix the person but you can fix the
behavior
example that because the child has
autism child can't dress himself can't
feed himself can't sit at a table
doesn't know how to play with other kids
and with the techniques of
ab so this fix the
problem and what the
ative word autism autism is a spectrum
and it can very
autistic autistic somewhere off the
Spectrum mention on the Spectrum the
spectrum is
gross Spectrum yeah it's a big thing to
be on the spectrum because is on the
Spectrum the federal government V
because the federal government made a
law that insurance has to pay for autism
treatment because the government said so
yet it's a federal mandate every
insurance has to pay so now there's ABA
agencies all over the
world ABA agency AB
AGC
Fromm therapist
therapist thetion
that's right cre Network for that's
right change Improvement in a person's
house
okay no problem you can make 100,000 you
can make 150,000 this this is for
private one-on-one sessions
correct let's say um
HCS you be a supervisor you could be a
supervisor you could be this it could be
a lot of
things it's a bu a lot of made a lot of
money most of our early and opened up
agencies I don't want to tell you how
much they sold it for but many more
Millions than you and I know how to
count tens tens of Millions
wow a business industry yeah it's a good
business and we have can we have a lot
of youer light in this a lot of young
light take this training a lot of ladies
take the
training and
again that's the biggest how do people
reach you if they feel that they have
the ability to do something like this
they call up we have a number we have
people who talk to people all day long
report transcript we have to
look yeah
okay
yeah social
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right we put him in touch with who did
it
already no problem I'll talk to
him like was average the
was average isot
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for a second career
also
um in community community in the secular
world
goldish
yeah passenger
van serious no it's no fun it's not
games when I went to was 1970s
okay Lately by the way
yeah you know this what is special
education yeah
20 years
later
class
out for sure
a camp in the
summer
Retreats right that was
the every
time you know an intense two weeks of
yish I come there one time and the
director one of the other director says
to me Lo just be
careful and
said okay fine we'll see what the story
is I wasn't sure from where but I knew I
knew this guy from somewhere after a
little while I hopped and G from
there invented
class them
therapy for years and years and years
from the terrible
abuse
abuse they stapled on his back a paper
that said I did something in recess that
was wrong I forgot what he did by
recess they stapled it on his back and
they made him walk through the Yesa what
yeah I shouldn't have said y's name it's
a long time ago they would never do that
wow
I remember I remember that I remember
going
home and
this
today took a toothbrush and brushed his
teeth in front of the class because
we're going to wash out
the m
yeah
yeah your insides are
g
wow mention
wow it's the it's the same thing by the
way that's why we we have a we have a
program we do social work right why
social work when you went to you ever
heard of a social worker soci no social
workers every school today has social
work I don't
know and if we don't know how to take
care of we're going to have trouble
we're going to have a lot of problems so
from it's going to be from problem
little problems little problems become
big problems that's how it works little
problems don't go away they just become
bigger
problems that's right right right
exactly so I didn't want to make social
work because social work is a very very
social work is not for
everybody soci
work the a social worker is a health
dose by a social worker
is psychologist or psychiatrist by we
have a Social
Work everybody's
normal so nobody has to go to a
psychologist or
psychiatrist is a social worker by the
right the social worker by the
a social worker does
that
$50,000 our social
workers in
the highly trained skilled counselors
not all of them but so the basically a
psych psychologist but psychologist
right as a psychologist own the ability
to sh my prescription a
psychologist psychiatrist psychist
psychologist
counsel social
workers if they're good and if they work
at it it takes a psychologist to got to
go to school for 5 years six years
social workers a year and a half so zuk
much easier in a year and a year and
a m as he comes out of school and he
graduates psychologist he trains by
people and he trains and keeps going he
keep on going and social
workers uh
psychologist not typical
the whole mental health um community in
the from
World social
work
it's you can't do this if you don't have
a
drive a real heart
but by man we you know we're not so good
with feelings right we we have feelings
I feel hungry I feel tired I feel angry
feel frustrated but that's that's as
good as we get
right and every one of you who are
sitting here every one of you you're
committing yourself to get into the Kish
and to help a guy to become sens
and mama my
mama
oh
cancer forone
all right so what else is
new
goodbye in touch with the feelings often
and willing to hand
exactly give me the light at the end of
the tunnel so B
so
that's he figured it
out the point
is he wants to identify
himself problem and how he dealt with
Ah
Williams but
whatever Down
syndrome it is what it
is so
corlor
Carriage syndr
kid
street I'm
he did it for three
days in
Williamsburg it is what it is
identifi theom
of and
as to not in time to
anytime all the time all the
time yeah I have a I have a funny
feeling that that's not true
there you go I
think okay so
discussion about do my best special
education special education
AB um Social Work
social coupl marriage therapy couple
therapy Social
Work speech speech therapy
articulation aasia there's a lot of
things that a spe therapist does we have
occupational
therapy occupational therapy Physical
Therapy occupational
therapy had a stroke or somebody that
has difficulty with movement or
something like that works out with
them something like that and now they're
not they're not functioning well we have
an ba and Masters in Business
Administration in the business
somebody for the Masters in Business
Administration very well trained
it depends in the program but in in the
Masters in Business Administration the
MBA M those basic accounting basic
forecasting business plan um cost
analysis business
law marketing all of these things that a
person needs you go into business it's
very nice to business and he wants to
bring you in but you don't know what
you're doing so
CEO presid CEO
presid
CEO
average I always tell people you got to
be the smartest guy in the room why do
you want here's here here's the big
issue the big issue is that many many
people in our community they don't they
don't take the they don't they don't
take the Reigns they don't put
themselves in the driver's seat whatever
life will bring me my schar's going to
have a business if myar has a business
in linen I'll work in linen and if he
doesn't insurance I'm going to sell
insurance you don't get to choose your
future you don't get to choose where
you're going and that works for a lot of
people because no problem they don't
need a degree they don't need my
course there's a lot of people that
have and they have no way to develop
them and you can take control of your
life somebody else
manager company
in employ the corporate
world
so
students just Vice you know the basic
concept from them
any there's nothing there's no program
that's going to tell you everything you
need to know not no such thing but it'll
give you the confidence to pick you up
and put you on the path to go to where
you want to go
right I was driving to one night I got
the flat tire so I called and four guys
come
flying D over there so two of them get
to work and they're fixing the tire and
one of the standing there and he looks
at me and says you R by misel I said
yeah it gives me a big hug I said whoo
what's this he says you don't recognize
me I was in the program I became an ABA
therapist by you I have a parosa my wife
has a husband my kids have a father I'm
a mench I'm not a schlepper any and I'm
a
m said I'm I was AER
I
Supermarket now I'm the boss now
everybody wants to hire me he made a
business he made an ABA business now and
a business that he's going to make money
on Wow it change a person's trajectory
in life 25,000
students
wow this is insane
from
Lon we're going to have to wrap this up
all good things must come to an
end a phone call from somebody in
Western Michigan
University West he said Rabbi I once
heard you speak and there's a bunch of
Jewish
students
students read by
Western Michigan is
in okay kalamazo is 5 hours from where I
lived Montreal I said o I said Jeff I
don't
know said please Rabbi everybody's here
everybody wants to hear you I said okay
I'm going to go nobody pays you to do
this you go you do it that's what it is
fine I drove out there 5
hours just con
12 mention
she was
reformed on the
floor maybe he's high I don't know what
he's doing he's low and high at the same
time I don't know what his deal is but
on the way
out he walks up hi Rabbi thank you that
was beautiful next time wake up and good
fine I'm an
idiot I wasted a whole day I have to
stop doing this
I can't do this I have to know make what
I'm doing this is crazy okay right
there
TOS
wow when you fail sometimes that's your
biggest wow and you don't even know what
you're doing how did you find that cuz I
know
him and I
handled right right a message for the SE
haters for the people that are watching
if you have a 60-second message for
them just look into the camera okay
professional professional
the the May is the
the can Al Al and no matter where you're
holding in life you can do that and
that's that's that's that's that's my
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