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Latest Talks Podcast - Ep #17 Topics What Is A Business - Sales Psychology - Business System.
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this is how to make a million
dollars caterer schools he's going to
circle back the beauty of having an
investor a travel
agent right there Millionaires and poor
people no matter what
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hopefully the podcast while the podcast
number 17 okay I hope not so far off
yeah
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hopefully and hopefully guys hopefully
guys from 17 to
26 14 to 17
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episode is sponsored
by psychology psychology
psychology
own the psychology part fully into it
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can just browsing just
browsing help you do you need help took
the yes but I came here
instead
so can I help you no thank you I'm just
looking
now no thank you I'm just looking just
browsing whatever his terminology is for
the
sentence if I said I'm just looking I'm
not GNA buy anything because if I buy it
means when I said I'm just
looking it's called consistency a person
wants to be consistent with
themselves the back from the
store back from the St water
machine comfortable in the
surroundings excuse me how much is that
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instead of making the sale happen he
says something that actually repels the
customer from
buying examples but example
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Point travel agent ra
win whole family takes you just repelled
them from buying
because you never ever
ever all day long you never raffle off
the item that s
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mention the question
is family of the friends
a partner in some business and whatever
the partner why is a
partner number one
and you could stop me if I repeat myself
but if you don't know that you I didn't
say
it the garden
mortgages
property
hello the
phone hello
yeah building no I don't need aage my
building that was the end of the
conversation now in hindsight
for by the time it would have come that
I would have even asked him he would
have known because they would he would
already heard them in
mortgages so it's always going to be
harder for a person's friends and family
to take them seriously they have baggage
they have history not there anything
wrong with
history whatever has a certain look at
you and it's very hard to change that
look full grown
C so he built up his muscles essentially
therefore in business It's always
important to deal with
strangers you get
your the best result that's part one of
your question is it ethical to
to experiment on Strangers or
and
the the compliment in the patient
my first day on the job she ruined it
she ruined it
because so first of all everyone starts
some
place by the way congratulations my
first
patient Val
in
consultant okay
Talent help feel
I would love to do it every day a whole
day for the rest of my
life listen hidden income opportunity
say bu
mention mistake says you could make a
living doing what you
love statement
mention but it's much more helpful to
learn to love what you do than to do
what you love and try to make a living
off it
if that's the only way to bring home the
money that's what he should
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do now
so credit score okay credit
scores think we spoke about this to make
a long story short whole origin story we
heard so I won't repeat the origin story
but the point is as my first client is
a book bus
credit business in general having said
that that's where I'm aiming
for if I go there that will be so Google
ability
psychology Google
so credit score and the
next help reporter Harrow
H and Harrow is essentially
on book consistency reciprocity scarcity
Authority social proof and
liking consistency Authority scarcity
social proof liking and I just forgot
one anyway
from the shut
off Pro authority authority
the
backwards the Gutenberg printing
press so this highest Authority when I
mention
patient exam trust separate
office there's the reason for the
president and um politicians American
flags in the back mention
service
served in the meeting
quote in the media is in cr's New York
business
cons telling
you the cranes phone is going to ring
off the hook be ready when the cranes
New York business and Chicago
business cleaning lady lawy office
poetry
INX flaky maybe it's not real maybe
Mays now
gave him value to
mention looking for pediatricians to
comment
onni what's it called this new Omicron
and the Omicron variant in young
children so now you can't respond to
that because you're not a pediatrician
but resp
professionally resp professionally
looking for people who who were with
falls in the last 6 months to say what
they thought
and what happens is I'm a connection
with a reporter first of all you're in
the media in general second all you have
connections to reporters and over time
you develop those relationships more and
you get quoted in the media which is
worth way more than advertising every
time you get a mention in the media that
you did not pay for it's worth much much
more than four or five advertisements of
the same size as the article you're
mentioned in the part that's about
you so guys
auth
cons
do Rabbi I want to change my whole
clientele my whole my whole um practice
was the problem I have all these old
people they come in and I say hello Mr
Smith how are you and Mr Smith says my
back hurts my foot
hurts we could change your practice I
have a lot to offer you but first one
thing when Mrs Smith walks in you say
Hello Mrs Smith how's your
foot if you don't say how are you how's
your foot if the foot
doctor you immediately eliminate the
part of the the part that's
bothering you come home in a bad mood
you know depressed from all the all
theal stress yeah again but that goes
back to your first question of
psychology so that's so we discussed
Authority we discussed
consistency now um social proof is is
what we discussed before when you see a
guy holding a a d computer or eating a
piece of salmon in a
restaurant he wasn't gagging while he
ate it by the
way that's the salmon I would like to
have
three life hack another one that I said
as you say
the and by the way one thing I don't
want to clap you
I try to be careful not to have to clap
that
one I'm
ready
so says he's ready to hear okay so you
only take clients no but a lot of times
people come to me and he got a
client guarantee business but I gave him
back his money
because he couldn't hear what I had to
say I told him business he wants to go
into a bad
idea I think what you're doing is not a
good
idea the kicks of the MoneyWise or of
the concept from the so number
one at some point even especially in the
beginning as well but especially later
you have a feel for these things second
of all When someone tells you about a
business that makes no sense you just
know makes no
sense usually of data was the
market mention
X
product first of all product is not a
company that's not a right but we're
talking about making money is not what
we're talking about
Che by what the reason
inv in the
buiness snake yeah out there doesn't
mean
that, 100,000
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products
investors because everyone that wanted
this it's a good idea but everyone who
wanted this has it already very good
now the answer to your question about
the kigle slicer is it's a good idea I
get for mashed potatoes it's not it's
not
patentable doesn't mean it's a bad idea
you can make it you can sell it f how
many people out there are going to buy
it I don't know if you have somebody who
really likes kle and wants to give he
wants to donate and it should be
called you know
a kigle slicer and wants to give it to
EV as Ana it's a great idea but as far
as if if it's worth manufacturing and
packaging and selling if you'll end up
making money on it that I can't tell you
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that okay
but because to have shab morning
right so but best you have a flame it
has to be
covered no
whatever
number yeah so every
family
essentially let's start let's start at
the very beginning how big is
okay hold on hold on kigle slice has to
be if it's going to be a professional
kigle slice has to be 9 by 13 9 13 the
RO you have to have where to put it a
whole week you're not thinking about
that part if I'm going to buy such a
such a thing am I putting it so say
wire chees the cheese slicer verus wire
size of hard boiled
egg
wiic product it's an example but this is
a very
very so this is a perfect examp this is
the perfect example I could explain it
to you for 2 hours or you could just
trust me okay find get another Maybe one
of the people listening wants to do such
a project it's a very good idea for a
nonprofit it's not such a good idea to
sell one way I'll tell you even more
there happens to be something called a
cake slicer okay and when you make a f a
cream cake whatever you make a cake and
then you just you just move it across
and it cuts into even size layers so you
can put your Strawberry Shortcake in the
middle so I can buy such a thing and use
it for my kigle I don't have to reinvent
the wheel and make a kigle
slicer it'll be different it'll be
better families in America is not such a
bad problem that's the point the point
is that people don't have such a huge
problem of cutting
keater schools um how many do you
know slices
and pizza stores okay the guy takes the
wheel and goes and comes in says I want
that
piece bubble
cheese of the bubble okay in in in
Chains every slice is the exact same
size because they have a special mold
mold what you want to call it that
actually guides them the the the the
wheel to make sure every slice is the
same so having here a conversation about
a specific item again it could work if
you make it I get one for free because
we know
so cake size the cake slices like a 9 by
13 so the dry sizes and
so if we're going to go through every
theoretical product now it's endless so
let's talk about General instead so now
okay how do we get here um I think you
wrote something
down the family the beauty of having an
investor is Assuming he's investing
Because he believes in the product a
person who's
gonna a product is going to research and
going to check and going to have a good
feeling about it if he has the money
to is going to have put enough time to
see if it make sense or
not um so the Mal of getting money from
somebody else is sort of checks and
balance the system to make sure that the
product has potential now obviously the
more risk there is the higher the
potential reward has to
be okay so therefore the chances of the
bakery
succeeding are pretty good therefore the
investor gets x% if you come to invest
you say
you know a business this is not a joke
I'm going to send the rocket ship to one
of the stars and bring back precious
metals that's worth trillions and
trillions of
dollars you have to give a guy a really
good return on his money because 99.9%
he's going to lose his investment so the
reward has to be worth it for him to
risk it so that's really what you would
boils down to every time Saye
hopefully in the
picture take the same idea of scale time
and money the decision of business can
boils down to the same thing more time
less money more money less time as I
mentioned if it's worth waiting that
long to see if it's going to work out or
not the more money he throws at the
problem the more time he'll be able to
save I me on computer in I gu typ on um
how to Windows 10 Microsoft
Word Spell check are not working
okay sa the document recover document
something that's if he doesn't do it
right he loses it the only problem is is
that if the result that you get is wrong
you got a problem if you Google a
medical problem and the result that you
get is wrong you have a problem can
issue
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information
surgery a simple pill can work instead
now if you just Google yourself if you
go to the local doctor you don't but top
doctor
the latest the latest and greatest
developments same is true in business
same is true in a lot of areas of
life it saves time when you ask somebody
else um a very very interesting question
every every
industry
millionaires mention every single
industry
what kind of okay so right there
Millionaires and poor people no matter
what a consultant is for a consultant
that that can tell
you do this and this and this and you'll
become a millionaire other if you do
this completely the opposite also you'll
for sure lose your money or is a
consultant meant to will your business
just succeed Nal so first of all this is
a disclaim of consultant of the
any not I think anyone but a consultant
is
consult
um part Consulting by the way the
knowledge in general in the business
sense which protects you or helps you in
some
way as gently as possible
sounds
familiar ruing
either you shape up or you ship out
you don't know what how he could
react just there there's no system the
Army it has to be a system
not a good
idea she doesn't come
back the point
is
for the problem
is as that's not an
option now take that same story to
Consulting
you
know but the client has to be able to
know that have his best interests in
mind sometimes I just can't say why
because that he doesn't know about one
of the options because I can't tell him
for his own benefit because have
confidentiality with somebody else so
there are people some Consultants can
and they would tell you step one step
two this is how to make a million
dollars using this and this and that and
that
okay so first of all legit so first of
all I if you say no lot of consult that
do that I won't say it's not legit what
I will say is is that when you go to
someone and you give them complicated
steps complicated steps so what you
always do
is as you get into you start seeing has
different variables different things
going on Step by but yes when you start
with a person you tell them you need as
an example this listen here your one of
your problems is you have the same ad
every week it's called ad blindness
people don't see it what you have to do
is you have to make three ads and then
every third week you have to use the
same ad so that every week it'll be
different so people will see it so
then but really step one is that three
ads really should not be every week a
full page but if I go that you one week
half page one week it's going to be too
much for you the first step is three
different ads and once you're making
three ads make one of them a half page
horizontal one of them a half page
vertical one of them
and by the
way and people waste a lot of money like
that
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consult business
owner a certain
employee you know yet at the
moments
consults how does he know as the cons
then their business for
15 couple business
really full
day please please protect
please consultation even though it's
late please I'll wait as late till after
your last meeting they must meet you
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okay
couple in the business
of the the bookkeeper whatever they
account bookkeeper we have to close our
doors because if you're in business for
3 years and you can't make ends meet
after 3 years it means this business
basically is has no hope cancel close
down we didn't want to call you till now
because we don't like your style of AD
half page not full page or certain
things
um free ride to get you publicity you
don't want your name don't put your name
but let's not forget the goal of the ad
is to bring business to this person the
goal of the ad is not you should get
compliments from your friends you're
nice design yeah
but he got paid but that's not the point
of the ad the point of the ad is to help
the guy who's paying for the ad and
paying for the placement by the way most
people spend as little as they can on an
ad so they have as much money as
possible for the placement which is
wrong right because you end up putting
in an ad that's mediocre instead of
putting an ad that's good a good ad
that's put in less places a good half
page ad will do better than a not good
full page ad targeted places targeted
places targeted the ad itself the
quality of the ad the was
the vision you know
we figured before we close the doors
we'll try your way so I'm thinking
myself
great not you the
pap
bests you managed to bring
backb you know what you did over here by
the way WR he's going to circle back
ccle
that's
okay to make you I believe my ad will
work your business will pick
up you don't like the will make you but
with these eight people these 10 people
have to say I don't doesn't count
anymore why because they mention if they
your Target customers they should buy by
you anyway cuz you're friends with them
and if they not you Target customers
what business do they have and tell you
how to do and what to do and what what
they think doesn't
matter living vicariously living
vicariously
mind of
the of
the of the
horse that livingly me
so if you want to do it go do it
yourself you don't want to do
it to do it as if the way you would do
it if you
would my's
friends no you know
that so now
consultant has again I'm talking General
just like a
lawyer something callede law law means
that this the lawsuits that happened in
the past the
judge and the job good lawyers he looks
to the case
La law law is based on Old Law which is
based on to law but okay um to
understand what a judge should p in such
a case but if you think about it every
single case has wrink that's different
than the previous case so there's no way
any consultant or any lawyer any it's
always different but you take the
experience that you have and anal that
you have and you try to apply it to this
case
and significant time energy money Sy y s
t m saves you significant time energy
money
if you let's let's cut out the sh for
now you're bringing me to to different
time of year Pet's coming let's let's
sing
let's we don't even
say the whole
shabas F okay
um system thank you a business
mind professional a doctor
Pati employe a self-employed a
business
buiness can
per
babysitter the point of what a business
is is it can hire people that will do
the work that you need done for less
than the amount you'll make of other
people from them doing the work so
basically if not you have a good job
that you GA Your Own Boss but you don't
have an actual business bus
office patient
pa$
patient any money if you're paying the
doctor $190 a patient and you're making
$10 per patient then if you have five
doctors you're making $50 a patient all
together if you have 100 doctors you're
making much more than that right that's
theid of what a business really is and
many people don't understand that they
don't understand all they have is a very
good job and they don't have a booss
yelling at them to come on time but they
don't really have a business but
INVU theit of the product employees but
you have to risk the whole
investment not right not not
right number one of the number two of of
product of the employee of the
product
employ sales
lotes what does that really mean the
cooking machine stays the same right so
why am I hiring more sales people
because I assume that the sales people
will bring in more money to my business
than it's going to cost me to pay them
salary that means there spread it that's
what bus there's one more
thing the businessman will take a
strawberry and make strawberry
juice yeah strawberry juice and sell it
for
$2.50 entrepreneur will make a
cocktail and sell it for
$8
bus respected
business and we had a serious discussion
about succession planning
the Z the whole the whole the whole
situation 14th Avenue
56 can't confirm
confirm
and when dentist
dentist yeah I bought this I bought this
practice you just open your mouth and
let them work and if you do do you come
back
again no you don't the way to sell a
dental practice how do you figure out
the value the value of dental practice
is figured out based on how many people
come back to the new dentist a second
time
that means you had to come you had to
like the new dentists that's called
bedside manner I'm a dentist maybe it's
not called it by dentist you had to like
the dentist enough to come back a second
time for every patient that comes back a
second time the practice is worth pick a
number $350 per patient but you don't
know that till after the dentist sees
them the second time now when somebody
has a business that they see as a very
successful business but really people
are coming because they want to talk to
the that person he doesn't have what he
thinks he has to give his kids because
it's it's like a dentist you're not
coming so you have to do is you have to
bring in the new dentist and the old
dentist if he dies in a car accident
it's worth almost zero you bring a new
dentist alongside the old dentist when
people come in they go to their current
dentist let find a oil and meanwhile
they see the new name on the sign they
see the the patient's coming going the
next time the patient calls he says my
teth my to the receptionist says Dr ABC
is not available but Dr Z XYZ is
available and slowly slowly you start
porting the patients from one dentist
other when the older dentist retires the
younger guys is left with all the
patients but has to be done with they
exact
example sometimes you see
probably
hopefully so
podcast episode
16 Studio
exactly nobody cares Bes you and nobody
cares about CH nobody notices nobody
cares
the people that are in it they
know most people don't don't pay
attention to these things which is why
when some of my clients obsessed about
ads they
obsess do what you want but if you want
to become a business consultant you pay
me my time I'll teach you everything no
no no secrets I'll tell you Bel
everything I know but if you go us to
succeed in what you're doing then don't
nitty-gritty about things that just
trust me I know what I'm doing I have no
problem either way but just figure out
where you where you headed nobody car I
told the guy said nobody
cares happens to be as the
podcast mention
follow com email you have no idea the
feedback
so superans
superans powerful regular fans because
as in a certain thousand true fans no
exactly so in in the
podcast change the studio and that's
why huh no seriously people told
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meong
entertainment give
gorgeous pinky shirt which I love very
much by the
wayt the look from the
business business or anything
perspective to Next Level say any person
that's listening to this that if they
weren't listening to this listening to
something else that would be less kosher
than this every minute
of listening or watching that's done of
this is a
MIT I'm with
you it was n hours and 20
minutes 31 interviews metallic survivors
a video relased
in because of this
program it's
unbelievable so I guess covered mainly
for episod cover quite a lot of detailed
information
yeah I I want I want to mention two
things one
is that a
business here we go again just example
before I do it not on purpose but should
see how it
happens came to me my
bu was business buiness
okay we start talking
companies suppliers and Industry in
business appr approved customer order
minimum
,000 so basically he spent $100,000
buying and now he's coming for thing cuz
the business is not working out I said
how many customers do you have you're
not going to believe me so I knew
already has 10
20 tell me tell me how many do you have
he says zero he never had a customer yet
he spent all his money buying thing he
never had a customer
so I said uh oh so it's not really a
business meaning he said you had a
business assume a business has a certain
meaning you have
customers he says yeah but now I'm Stu I
told
Himi
products you have to take a different
product so I don't want to give an
example in his industry I'll give an
example in a different industry so let's
assume that you sell very high-end mics
and they started $1,000 how much this
cost but we have no idea how much this
cost with the mic about $500 $500 so if
you if this is your entry level mic $500
then a guy who's
not looking to make a professional level
podcast is not going to buy it if you
want to get him into do what you have to
do is you have to buy you have to sell
mics that cost
$50 and put a ad in every paper that
says $50 mic good mic for a beginner
whatever whatever when a person calls
you from that ad you say asking
questions you don't just sell $50 mic
what kind of mic well you need it for
okay we have $50 mic then we have $500
mic which is a lot more than 50 but if
the $500 mic has this this this this
this this this this this this this this
this and this this benefit then he makes
a decision if he wants to go to cheaper
mic the more expensive mic the cheaper
mic is just the mic in that's say the
more expensive m in the future you could
upgrade it you could add you could this
you could
that did it worked so that's an example
the same product line are the are the
for examples if mic and a wire
accessories the
you you can't put an ad on the paper
that says what you know mics and
accessories the point was in his
particular industry let's assume he sold
central air conditioning M so I told him
so window air conditioning yeah but I
don't do my central I know the point is
first find people want air condition air
condition and then when you have find
some some the cheap one some expensive
you get your name you get your
reputation out there upsell people right
got it it's very hard to take someone
from $9 product $10 product a $500
product but from 9 to 49 and then 2
minutes later from 49 to 4.99 is not so
hard right very
good of course you should ask that is
opening a podcast a good business
decision how much how much time do we
have to answer the question umus 15 want
to come back this is going to be the
last this is going to be the last
question for episode
26 can I answer this by episode 26 yeah
no
answer not going to have any questions
left yeah
okay having a podcast builds
Authority having a podcast or for
example M as an
example I used
to magazine
why because when I write in the person
doesn't get to hear my voice I wrote for
them 500 articles or something know some
something like that um but when you are
inia the person reads your article he
doesn't see your voice he doesn't see
you he doesn't hear your voice he reads
it and you have 800 words to get a
message
across I don't know how many words I'm
from Brooklyn so I speak pretty fast I
don't know how many words I said in this
podcast but it's probably 50
so they get 50 times the amount of words
they get to see what I look like or hear
what I sound like and feel that much
more comfortable with me and therefore
in the same just to answer to go back to
answer the question as far as podcast
when people get to see you and people
get to they get a
feel don't
know people
came they came and I was I felt very
good very gratified last mention
people feel close enough to connection
but that can only happen
no it's not really true
because
mention and a lot of that comes from
from from my
speaking basically yeah yeah w
made in the
picture cheesecake no that mini
cheesecake the Milky Way shout out to so
so so Now podcast is Authority along
with
Authority scarcity consistency
reciprocity social proof and liking
among others are different Tools in Psy
psychology
customer vendor now is a podcast a good
business idea the answer is like this if
the podcast is a business because it
makes money it's obviously a good idea
if a podcast is something you're doing
because it brings in customers to
something else
so if you see after every podcast you
get 52 phone calls more than you usually
get people who want your choir at the
next then obviously it's a good business
decision but as I told one of my clients
and one one of them I mentioned before
about bu bu
brings it's part of a sales funnel so
you have to understand it's not two
businesses if you want to look at as two
businesses then every time that business
sends customers to that business you
have to give him 25% Commission because
otherwise then you say it's a business
because it has a way to get but if it's
its own business then if he sends
customers to a different vendor under
business he has to if he can make more
sending it somewhere else he should be
sending it somewhere else because again
it's it's you has to able to see
everything for what it is is a podcast a
good business decision it depends if
it's either making money or bringing in
customers are giving you money for
something else if it is it's a good
business decision if not when you could
do it could you enjoy it but as far as a
business decision it wouldn't be a way
if it makes money cuz you might build
your own competition so if you make a
podcast about kigle and you decide to
make a product of how to cut kigle and
you advertise that business organically
on that particular podcast it might be a
very good match one for the other you
heard it m we will start making a
podcast about ke
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down I really appreciate
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