Chulin 132

Today's and we got three lines from the bottom of so yesterday or we began the 10th and the P really centers around one in says If somebody a member of the of the nation is going to an animal the says whether it's a or whether it's a he has to give from the what does he give the four legal themes on that note the gar begins with a classic matanto would give he would give the but rather than give it to a he would give it to a who was married says Rashi to a held that when the says kayen is you can give it to a khenis as well you can give it to someone that's the son of a kay who himselfves a kayen or you can give it to someone that's the daughter of a kayen who's only a bas kayen took this one step further and said that even if this bas is now married to a even then you can give it to her. Why is that a bigger? Because we know that is that a basa but a bos that marries is not a lattum because her nuin to a to a degree is mighty her from the bias of her father and as a result she's not treated as a bas anymore as it relates to stating that she's still a so when the tyra says means even thus he would give it to even a bas that was married to so asked in other words what is saying is that what it says in the Torah is but rather is included in the word one of the basic in 101 is that when a brought a carbon it says in the Tory that it was not allowed to be eaten stating that the says that's only the not the of if you're gonna tell me that where if it says the word means as well. The Tyra says, "So even why is it that is it should be included in the sobi from that you're trying to prove that the word means only and not from that PK itself or from that par from that context is the answer to your question because if you look at the general context in that it says and being that for that reason we say that it has to be meaning if the word then that's why that by the mitzvah of Why by does it mean it says it's not because it says it's because it says argued with and they held that wherever it says in the it means the word it means so that as it relates to this you can't give it to a bas who's married to Israel because you have to give it really to ah I how do I know that from the of it says true once I see over there the Tory says and the clarified it means so now that's a for everywhere else in the Torah where it says the word it means they used to learn like that you can give the and the even to a that's married to Israel. Now said what's the reason for it? Because even though it says in the co means even not that way they held that wherever it says it means because they held like that we learn from where there says and it means like the clarifies. So if that's the case, so why is it with regards to this royal you could give it to the Torah doesn't just say that you should give this royal and gave it to the once it says it twice. It says that's one that it says it twice. So at the end of the day there seems to be in the whether you can give this royal to a that's married to Israel or not and in the of they held you can give it even to a they held you can only give it to a you can't give it to a but as it relates to and both of whom held that you give it could give it to a basen it This is going to be important when we speak out some raid later in the came from different angles. said that you know why you're allowed to give it to because it says and wherever it says in the it means even there are places where it says it doesn't mean that's because over there it says the would have to clarify otherwise but if it says the word means even felt not that way in his yeshiva they learned that really always means and means the reason you can give this even to a is because in this didn't just say the word once it said it twice it's a double negative then which is a positive one I gave it to to teach me that you have to give it to that you can give it even to was married to and he himself used to eat from this royal It sounds like people would give it to Raana. How do you give it to him? The says terror says like he held like they held in the you're allowed to give this royal even to and even if she's married to I heard from that was yesterday's d that a le does not have to give because we have a suff whether the ley is called and the Torah says being that it's a it's a that's the first line of today's and finally that we didn't have yet that has a child doesn't have to do which is but that's a conversation for another day that's not for right now either way the brings a which is going to bring us back to some of the difficulty that we learned earlier in the but the is going to mention it fleetingly so we'll do the same thing or either way says if you have this breed this hybrid that came from a a and a goat and a sheep however that's the so two things first of all The Torah says very clearly that when do you have to give. So from there we learn that the only time you have is by a not by a even though sometimes are used interchangeably and from a 20,000 foot view they're sort of similar both important members of the animal kingdom. But when it comes to there's some very important There's by there's no there's a there's no when it comes to a as relates to the is both and the mitzvah of thing that the says in is only by it's not by thus the discuss what would be if you have this hybrid animal that was born from a mixed breed or which comes from a mix of a and would there be or not? That's the surprises again that you have the mitzvah both and says if both parents of the animal are that's the significance of then you're going to be why because being that both parents are this animal is a even though it's But at the end of the day, it's a behavior. I mean that it's you have I maybe the fact that it's should somehow exempt it from involves there's nothing to talk about is not let be put on the there's a concept of when it comes to certain mitzvah like but as it relates to this there's no reason that because this animal is that that in it of itself should be a reason that there should be no cave stating that If it's if one of the parents is argues with the and he says you're going to be from the now what's the so the truth is we could have a whole block of gumar right now to discuss it and in fact the already discussed it in very very great detail the touched on some very difficult when it comes to what the here is going to do is thear is going to tell us the mas of what the Gar came out when it went through this earlier more than 50 says the we already established earlier that this between which relates to the we're not learning of so we'll focus on the part of this so this whether or not is It's where there was a male that was female meaning the mother of this animal was a behemoth the father was a and both who argued whether or not agree that it's a suffic whey that had a lot of implic applications when we learn but they both agree that it's a okay what then was the is whether when the says does that mean you have to be a full-fledged or could you be even a that's why is why because at the very least that the mother of this animal is a so this is for sure ace is a that's enough to be is it a full-fledged set it depends on whether then it's a full-fledged set then you do have to reckon with the fact that this father is and as a result it's not going to be but as it relates to there's nothing to talk about. That's why the say you have you don't say you have to be a full-fledged and being that we have a suffic whether this animal is a full-fledged because you do have to look at the the father's it comes out that it's a it's for that reason the is you can't be animal you can't be the In other words, whether you say that or not is talking by is where the father was the the mother was an animal and it's over there that say because I have a set theor says I have a set I so all I have is a mixer It's according to who holds it comes out. It's a suffic whether I have a full-fledged or not. I have a full-fledged I have a it's a thus you're not going to be but asks I understand as a result you have a suffic There's no way you're going to be this person in the going through even if they should only have to give half it sounds like when you have you have to give the whole thing. Why do you have to give the whole thing only have to give half? Because really you only know for sure that you have a on the other it's really so you have a suffix on the other half meaning you have a suffic on the other half. So be for half because but by definition means you should only be so why do the say that 100% but that all you have is so I understand that part the understands that's beautiful that was the mas but here the is asking a different why on the other half. Why don't you say on the other half it's a suffic and say just like that doesn't have to get why we're not as it relates to the half of the according to the should half you should be and half you shouldn't be so what's the in short the said that is Sounds like you have to give 100% of the noise is you should only have to give half. You could say a simple answer didn't mean you have to give 100%. What it means is all you have to do is give is this mixed breed between and as a result sometimes you find in we treat it like sometimes like sometimes as we treat it like of we treat it with regards to like the How is it? Like the just like the what about with regards to the noise? So that's already if it's true that the other half there's a suffix. So shouldn't the price have said that according to the says I hear I did the 20 being that we mentioned the fact that is awesome. So to be consistent, the Bry said or didn't say the word despite the fact that in truth it could have said the word and by not saying it is a little bit misleading. He also when came from he reported that said that according to the is in all the mat not in all the matim with everything that we just said the way we broke down the really all you know for sure is that it's a on the other it's a that So it comes out of the answer. It says in the Torah with regards to this. Why did the Torah say? Says the word is it could have said. Why did it say the point is that being that it's learned from a so the word teaches me that you're not only everything if the way we know that is by doing back of the envelope arithmetic and saying well I know what is cuz I learned of remember the mule and the h and all those so if that's how you're coming to it you're right you can't be more than half because at the end of the day you'll be stuck with a suffici you'll say you can't more than half but Robin came back and he said a novel came in the name that I have a to be oh once I have a to be that's already a game changer says the reba who holds that is now that we're telling me that the is from when the word so what's going to do with the word it's coming to teach me why the said because had the said I would have thought you have to and the in order to You need a set to trigger the obligation, but one or the other. Maybe not. Which is a segue to the next because really it's learned from the next Mishna. What's the just to at least touch the words and that is we mentioned this briefly yesterday that If she an animal on behalf of Shim. So even though it's Shim's animal, but the is the one that has the so the can go over to the and say you're a I want you to give me this. I'm a but I work for somebody else. I got paid by the hour. What do you want from me? Doesn't matter. The is that the is the one that's responsible. Now the goes to the owner and works it out. But the point is you can go now to the and and try to get what's yours. That's out from the emphasis of that the person that you're supposed to be going to the one that's on the hook that has the obligation to make sure that the is getting what's coming to him is the actual either way on that note. So the first in the peric said that if that's the case you have an animal that's a it has it's not going to be in the what happens if there were 100 animals that got mixed up. One of them is aar. So that one that's akar is from the other 99. So how do you treat this depends with 100 animals 99 of which are not if the 100 animals belong to 100 different people each one's going to be each one has a to say that the one that I'ming is the thus he can tell the I'm not giving you the if one of them owns all 100 Then one of them is going to be potter but he's going to have to give of the 99 because 99 of them are really another if somebody an animal on behalf of a or a non-Jew we saw this yesterday and the reason is because being that a of course doesn't have to givea therefore even though the one is someone that's obligated in even though we just spoke out. So really the one that has the obligation to is always the buting a person's animal that himself is not thus the will be partner as well. A third if somebody's a partner with a so we're going to see in the Gmorra is going to discuss this in detail that if uh you have a co and is that together so is the of the exempts this animal completely 100% from stating that they could be a marion issue because you're going to have a y who's a nobody knows he has a silent partner who's a co and he's not going to give the he has to make some hecker so that people don't think that he's violating this in the what happens if somebody buys an animal from a animal is the he buys it from the animal and the he buys it from the and the ken tells him that I'm selling the animal to you but I'm not selling the matis to you so then he's part from the mat doesn't own it if the cen left it back for himself then naturally he's going to bear if someone says Somebody walks into we saw this yesterday as well and he says tell sell to me the intestines of a mat inside is he has to give to the and he can't go back to the and say I want you to make me whole you know I bought intestines from you I bought and then there was the ka and I had to give the ka to the kay so can you make me whole for that which I had to give to the kans he's going to say what do you mean you're you're a Jew and you understand that it says in theory But you knew this walking in. So when you paid what you paid for what you got, it was understood that you weren't going to get 100% of it. As a result, I don't owe you anything. If however, he came to him and he said, "Will he send me a pound of he sell me all the so included in that is the thus he can't come to a later. But if he just said, will you wave for me x of the bayam?" So then I could say that I didn't expect you to give me that which I was going to have to give to the and so that reason is he can force the afterwards to make him the first of the was that if a an animal was with other animals that are not if all the animals belong to different people each person is from sounds like a but that's incidentally what's on each person there's a sophic called parish each person should say his animal is not a ter is we pass like so it's a combination of but either way so is is that each person can say it's only a sophic doesn't Where can I get that's 101 as a result I'm not obligated to give you everything anything but the ask the great the comes over to the Israel and he says you have an animal I'm entitled to this and I want it tell the person is going to say listen I don't know for sure that this is cool and it might be a mean that it might bear is I don't have to give you this what's you have to give the whole animal to you That's the Gmorra's way of saying if it's then he has to give him and if it's he has to give him the whole animal. So how is this that it's a to say that you don't have to give this royal you have to say you have to make a whole the case is is with a already got this meaning this that was with the other animals was a that was given to a then the sold it to isol which he's allowed to do. So being that he sold it to is at this point the kay's not entitled to it anymore. So now the only question is is from this taru of animals is he entitled to this not he is from 99 of them he's not from the one the title was that the one that he's not entitled to this isn't he entitled to the whole animal he was once titled to the he once had the animal he had sold it back and being that he had sold it back had a now eat it but the point is he had sold it back and it's for that reason he doesn't have the only tina at this point that he would have is the tina of gim give me this is being that it's a suffic even though there's a 99 out of 100 says that the is that and it's for that reason you don't have to give him excel so before we go v and learn a very nice just one so the d began with a's memo used to give matnos specifically this not to a he would give it to the daughter of a who was married to Israel. Then the Gmorra says that in the also in that way and other then brings from other stating that the Gmorra said it was a desending view. as it relates to this. You can give it to a meaning even if she's married to and if you give it directly to the husband even that's good says meaning if it's true that you can give the tok says what's also going to be true is that if you have a who's married to a basen you're going to be part of from giving In other words, in it's not like but rather like and like and this right here says this is brought down specifically with regards to one type of and that is it says in the and is you can give it even And the way about other declares for example so is that if you have a firstborn child assuming you meet all the criteria you can check off all the boxes is you have to be you give to a are you allowed to give the to a bas who's married to Isl the terret is it's says I think it's going to be in the today's said that the same exact but we saw in the we spoke this out and we said this is going to be important when we come back to the raid this is the raid that there's two different in the why it is that it would be okay to give the to said the reason is because it says in the means even meaning the word is it means even there's so many times but means no he says if you look at those par says no. But if it just says and it doesn't mention so it doesn't say male members of this tribe can be even the female members that's what said they held not that way they held means why is it that you can give even because over here it says the word twice and then it says again you have two of says there's two and why you can give it to said because said it's because really means but the said twice if that's the case it says in the you have to give it to a but only says it once it doesn't say IT TWICE SAY ACCORDING to that says you'd be able to give even to a basket even to so if you want if you make you have a to give it to you would have no problem doing that no if it says the word twice it means it's here where it says twice and then it says again but by the doesn't say it twice thus over there it's going to be says so that it could be that when the said he so what does mean you can give it but now I was saying there's a tremendous between what said and the way they learned in the same exact it could is not just you can give it to but it's because you'd be able to give to you wouldn't have to give it to it's not either it's not even a bless but either way but either says it's really it's really the in the end of the first says that you have to give the says now the truth is that is not referring to that's a pious that's talking about the special that took place in the midbar. But the bottom line is it's fur and it says he found that the rush in his says the same thing and that as it relates to you have to give it stating that says there is a it's one says not that way over there says used to takeen and he would take a sud for now that's a very lish very important gum but the of the over there is is that even though has to be five and aud therefore he was able to take the sud in lie of five this is the inverse of bit Even though the has value but I'm so you can take something that has value and with your mind with the power of your take devalue it it works in the reverse as well and that's what did took a sa that had no value and he said to ME IT'S SO AND HE WOULD TAKE IT as by the way right smash this was a taking who do you give to you give it to because the says used to take this because he was MARRIED TO HE HIMSELF was afraid by answers and it's first who was a like most people whose last Khana you would think was a and there was that was a that's but then there was also days that was there were two different WHAT DID THE SAY DOESN'T say was a doesn't say he At the first the didn't say he lived after the Gom doesn't say he what does the Gar say the says used to take OKAY MAZ OUR SAYS HE ALSO TOOK this in THE CAVE WHY DID HE TAKE this royal in the cave because HE WAS MARRIED TO A BAS OKAY SO FOR THE SAME REASON HE was able to take the pion WHAT WAS TIK WHY WASN'T WHAT'S TASHI EVEN TA has a steer here the says he took mis he took here took the same it's because he was MARRIED TO HE WAS WASN'T SURE ABOUT THIS was shar is not sure about the shy the first that was forced to be that clearly he held that of doesn't apply to but the second says then maybe not maybe just like the gammorra says with regards You can take maybe when it comes to you can do the same thing. The bottom line is comes out and then the first I have a Russian the first that all seem to say very clearly that this of I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right. too many but that's only but as rel says not that way but I'm going to tell you and that is and this is so he wrote a tru as follows he said so that's the poetic way of saying two to four weeks never leave that they were saying over in a certain in my name said that it's it was told to me that there's a rumor being spread in my name the name of that it's okay to give pig to someone that's a as long as he's married to a bas and I sent to go to that and say that I never said this but I heard that this rumor is is is is really picking up steam. Anyone that says this over in my name tongue should be ripped out of his mouth. We had this recently in either way says but let me tell you what really happened where this rumor started. Right? Rumors usually have a a basis in something. So what's the basis of this rumor? says, "I was sitting at a and somebody goes and he quickly and he made a without asking of everybody started laughing. They said meaning this person was and he went ahead and he did the opinion. So everybody started laughing right they started making of what happened over here and I was sitting there I said you're laughing meaning IT'S NOT SO THAT JUST BECAUSE this person's that that means you can't do why there is a possibility it's the it's the second and He said turn to the says, "Do you know that I used to give to my because my is married to and I used to give it to my he says this is I said this is my this is something that I do now parathetically do you have to give that seems to be the the buzz right now. So you have to give so the truth is I mean from the you do so just to read the bas and then we'll go right there. There you go. But the bottom line is said that he used to do it. BUT HE SAID THAT'S only with regards to this. I WOULD NEVER DO what all these quoted says that's spreading rumors that I said you're allowed to use a that's married to I never said this these words never came out of my mouth what did happen what happened was it was a everybody started laughing said I said it's one day So this is a this that that we know where says that it's okay. The bottom line is and then he says I went and I said that I have the minute that I give this and I used to give it to my wasn't even a but I used to give them anyways you know because his wife was a but with regards to I never said that. I'll tell you something interesting. Who is this of the that was referring to that he used to give? So I had to say for so this was a very thorough work that was done on so he brings as follows it was his wife's brother his first wife's brother his second wife was daughter but this was his first wife's brother Rabh Yurowitz it was Rabersh Yurowitz So I'll just tell you something interesting. Who exactly was you have to know the rest of the story. So I'm reading from the s of was written by this is very very authoritative as it relates to the history of the so he's discussing the early years of when got married for the first time and was in a city called And and this had passed away his son. He was taking care of his sister and he made up that he's going to marry you. He was also a big v and he was promising grace caster was a young boy and he's living in that he's in that over there and this who took upon himself to marry off a sister and he's promising a big n and he hears that there's a young child here and he decided that he wanted him for a sister he told me he's going to support him he'll take care of everything you promised will be able to sin and learn. You won't have to worry about anything. place. sat down and they drink was he referring of course to wanted to settle there and you know he's getting married now but before that he went back home to get a bra from his mother and to get a from his and respectively and he tells how the wasn't mas to the and was also not masked to the but felt that being that he gave his word to this girl that he was going to marry her he didn't want reneg on what he said he was going to do and even though his role models and his mentors were not masked into the that he himself had agreed to he felt he was going to move forward with it. He goes back to prostitut and he gets married and he settles with his wife. I'm skipping this who had promised to take care of him. He became a he lost all his money. was so immersed in his learning. He didn't realize this crisis that was going on in his in his house. He was living in his house, but he didn't realize this. He had no idea what was going on. He was just so in his learning because this he took care of his and even though he had no money and he had literally had nothing to give him but the little bit of bread that he had, he served him. It's unbelievable. He says until one Friday night, he said he looks at his wife and he sees that she's wearing she wasn't wearing and he goes on to say the women that used to wear a special on Friday night was gold on it and even noticed that his wife didn't have that. So he asked him She said as tears were rolling down her cheeks, he said, "We literally didn't have money to buy wine." So she gave her as a like this. There should be wine for Shabas. When the heard this and then he realized what was going on in the house and that there was no money and all this and everything that he was promised it was all gone decided he said it's not fair he says what my supporting he doesn't have any money he doesn't even have money for shabas for himself how's he going to support me he's literally taking the bread off his own table and he's giving it to me and said that it's wrong turn to and he told him I'm going to find a job but he didn't really know what to do. So he went he went to a tailor and he decided that he's going to learn how to knit. He's going to learn how to sew and he's going to become a tailor and said and he felt that that's what he needs to do. That was the the responsible thing for him to do and that's what he was going to do. But it turned out that it was much more difficult for the to learn how to become a tailor than he thought it was going to be. He was already a little bit older at an age where it's not so easy to learn something new. He was 30 years old. But either way, then he decided, you know what? Maybe I'll become a rough. He says, I'm not. The tailor is just not working out. Maybe I will cover it up. They came to him and got his first dollar and of course the rest is history needless to say but it's interesting. So who's this from coming full circle that the artist thinks was the was referring to that he used to give this royal to even though he wasn't a a it's thiser who had married him off this who had promised him cast who had promised to to support him it didn't work out he was for the uncovered what was really going on but apparently he was a ander maybe wouldn't have done this I don't know but it could be the rest of the story is that this was a that he had tremendous to and this was also a that was struggling mightily financially and felt I have an opportunity to be so even though he's not to give the ro is not to do it certainly not but felt anyways that this was the the right thing to do again just uh a little bit of the rest of the And on that note, it's already 50 minutes. Wow. So on behalf of the listening essentially what the Mish is saying is is that doesn't have to give the So why is the Mish saying it in such a roundabout way? on behalf of a just say simple of a you see from here it's coming to teach me the that we spoke at already twice this morning and that is that although the is going to come from the animal but the one that's responsible is the and we know that from this it says and That's how we know that are exempt from what about a so that's when the says that's coming to include that uh butcher that's on behalf of the in that case he is going to be so on the note of being potter from the tells a was staying in somebody's house and his host was a and he was struggling mightily. He went and he asked you. He asked him for a he said maybe you can help me out. I need I'm struggling with he told him I have a good idea for you. you know, you're a you're a very valuable resource because but if they have a partner that's a now ready that what you should do is is you should offer your services go over to a tell them I'm willing to be your partner and like this he'll benefit cuz he's from and once you're his partner you're going to be entitled to something this is a good business right you could do volume you can make a lot of money they told it Right? Makes sense. So the says he went ahead and he did it and you had this new business was formed LLC. They set it up and this is who has a partner. They go and they start they opened up a butcher store and they started selling meat was the Rakman goes over to the butcher. He says why are you giving? So he told him what do you mean I have a partner that's a he said who cares? So he told him there go what do you mean said I got this go give and if you don't I'm going to take out of your ears but he was being shot and he told him that you you can't do this also made so himself now went told my why you doing this what do you mean I'm right what you're saying is not isn't correct if has a partner that's he's parted from he came from the south of that the elders of the south said that's a butcher he himself is from but once he goes into the business of selling meat he opens a commercial entity at that point it changes what's two or three weeks his partner from giving told okay at least let us be part of two or three weeks he told back it's true I would be okay with it for two or three weeks but that's only if you didn't set up a meeting what's the whole ver of two to three weeks versus not two to three weeks after two or three weeks people know about it so once people know about it they you see you have a story you have a business that people are aware of at that point even the has to give the and the but as it relates to you being that people know about it immediately even before two or 3 weeks I have no choice to be so from stating that if he has a commercial business then already the has changed we'll see more about this ine All right.