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Today's daff is
and we are at the very last of
four lines from the bottom of
so we're in the middle of the of
and
so what's an aerodo
that's an a of an animal or a kazas of
flesh of an animal that's almost
completely severed from the animal. So,
it's dangling. It's literally hanging on
for dear life. So, it hasn't been
completely severed, but it's almost
completely severed. And despite the fact
that it's part of the animal the gorian
from ak that Abraham and
are
in essentially then it's similar to and
is or
of an animal that was detached from the
animal while the animal was alive where
the is that even if afterwards the
animal has a proper but being that it
was taken from the animal when the
animal was alive it remains bil forever
the Abraham medull and the basul is very
similar same idea that once it's medul
in while the animal was alive even if
later there's a it doesn't matter that a
and that boser will be forever stating
that there is an important difference
between and
that is that in addition to it being is
also
It's a source of toma. It's one of the
So just like is a source of toma, a mace
is a source of toma, aid
are sources of toma, is a source of toma
as well. The dul is not a source of toma
stating that it's treated as even while
it's attached to the animal and as a
result it's subject to the laws of but
it has to conform with the guidelines of
in order for to become it has to be
shared in order for to become it has to
first be
something that's a source of doesn't
have to be
is talking about the point is is that
and are both.
But the important distinction is that as
it relates to the laws of Abra is a
source of toma. Abraham is not a source
of as it relates to Basar
is not a source of to certainly
is not a source of tommo. So Abraham has
the difference that
in addition it to being is also a source
of tommo.
is it's not a source of toma as it
relates to the min and are both not
sources of toma. That's in contrast to
NA where not only is an a of no
and Tom but a kazayas boser of Na is
also
and is to thus if you really want to
draw it up and summarize it as a
introduction to today's dav and
yesterday's dav the way you would do
that is is as follows you have three
categories you have na you have min and
you have nal as it relates to
as it relates to they're all different
of and
are both sources of
is but
is not
and his boss
are both not to the had discussed in the
context of its discussion of the Mishna
which mentions a lot of different
regarding the component of
boss and that is that being that a
but
is not
if you have an and now a little bit of
bos separates itself from the a is that
bosser going to be tom or is it not
going to be tom meaning if a kazayas
boser separates itself from an a of na
it's posit it's going to be tom because
kaz bos of na was always to whether it
was attached to an ather wasn't attached
to an aver but [clears throat] what
about if the kazer was part of the a min
and now it separated itself from the a
min would it be Tommy or not and in
yesterday's d we saw that it would not
be Tommy
said that that's the where you find find
sometimes the debated whether something
is
or what's the difference is
and the gammor said it would be if
separated itself from that if it's then
it would be if it's it wouldn't be
stating that the is going to begin now
with a that's going to qualify that
If somebody cuts from
as follows yesterday's we said that it's
not going to be of course we're not
discussing we're discussing and we said
why won't it be because although is
not stating that says the [snorts]
it's only if you cut it off before you
had in mind and had intention to use it
as food that going to be taught
if however while the bustle was attached
to the a you had a mind to treat it as
food you had a mind to feed it to a for
example and then you cut it off
then is it's going to be what's the I
thought that
of is not so why should this
separated itself from why is it
different that it was once attached to
the answer is very simple Because being
that is to a kazayas baser or maybe a
baser that's attached to the is now
touching the dat and being that it's
touching the data that is in it of
itself a reason that it should be
stating that the bryer says one second
it's not so simple why because in order
for something to become from coming in
contact with you would have to look at
the sper as being okay it's a gazle why
shouldn't it
because as far it's attached to the it's
not viewed as we look at it as we don't
look at it as so if we don't look at it
as then there's no way to deem it
however if you had a to treat it as that
would now give it so if you had the
before you cut it off so you had the
toel
now it's it's attached to the it becomes
thus it's going to remain if however
However, you had the after you cut it
off said that when it was it never had a
so there's no way for it to have in
other words this oneline but it requires
a real introduction and the learning is
saying a very
that even though
is not and as a result theor said that
if you would remove it from it wouldn't
be that's only
but at the end of the Hey, you always
have to look at the from two
perspectives. Number one, is it a source
of so the answer is no. But number two,
it's attached to and that's 101 that if
something comes in contact with that two
becomes. Now you're going to ask me it
has to be thear is going to discuss
that. But for now conceptually it's
touching. If it's touching Tommy, it
should be Tommy. But Mar says it depends
because in order for it to become from
touching,
it would have to be viewed as an in
order to be viewed as an you need a
proactive thought to give it the
bra. if you had the before you cut it
off. So it was an when it was going to
have otherwise it's not going to have
one day didn't go to
and he met
so he told I know
he said what was the that they said over
today. So he told him is there something
bothering you that you're wondering you
know maybe was discussed says yeah in
fact there is apparently they were
learning maybe
so he said
the says that if you have a spor that's
attached to
and you had
that that should be and then you cut it
off it's why because it's attached to
the which is in and of itself a source
of toma and said I'll tell you What was
bothering me?
The rule is that the only time something
could become
is if the contact happened in an exposed
area. If however it happened in an
undisclosed area, it happened
then it's not considered to. We've seen
already earlier that two things that are
naturally attached like a limb which is
attached to the rest of the animal that
is considered. So if he was bothered
that how is it possible to say that the
gazer
would be Tommy because of its natural
to the that is and I know
he said I had the same exact
and I asked this question
and he gave me a very nice answer. told
me
it's true throughout it's axiomatic that
is not but everybody agrees with that
there is
argu
he's the author of that price
that price is well he holds
it's not going to be a question told
So
told but I heard from you that even who
holds the that is but he agrees that the
thing becoming
needs meaning
doesn't defy the laws of
the and even if the maga is happening
it still needs to oblige and conform
with the of
in other words he was asking a follow-up
question at the end of the day where was
the in this
so heard this conversation he said that
I don't understand
who said the price is talking about
where there was no the is just
discussing that even though a is not
thus if you remove a from it shouldn't
have its own source of but you do have
to look at it from the maga perspective
Now
okay and the B is talking about like we
spoke at earlier that there was actually
that's not like an answer of the I don't
understand why is it such a why is that
bothering you to say that
is talking about where there was in fact
but the gumar continues and the gumar
really digresses a little bit
I don't understand
and I don't even understand's
response of right was bothered that what
happened to this Bryce what said maybe
it's talking about where was it came in
contact with water it was any of the
other that have an ability to be food
and told that in this case you don't
even have to come on and this is based
on a principle that we saw earlier in
that is
that the only time needs to be in order
for it to become
is if this in question is anal that will
never be subject to or as we're going to
see in the Gmorra right now never was
subject to but any food that was or will
be subject to
is when it's anal and not in a state
where it's subject to doesn't need
to attain the what's the example of this
the example is the of where the is that
it's
so if somebody eats of an
is when it's in his
clothing that's considered a it's not
which is only other and it's only
that's a real to it's
And is for that reason that
doesn't need in order for it to become
because it's something that
when they meant it somebody would put it
in his mouth. it would be thus it's
something that's it's the magic word to
even though right now there's no that's
enough to say that when you're dying the
it doesn't need
it's learned out from the fact that
what's the
just like zer is never going to be
subject to so the only time needs
is if it's not going to be subject to so
what's the A this
separated from
this was once subject to not in the
future tense like in the case of the but
in the past tense. Why? Because when it
was attached to the so it was part of
the it was a it was a it was part of the
it was part of the it was subject to the
to of
it's a real source of
it's a real to so being that it was
subject to so now that it's not subject
to anymore because it separated from
it's not to the now oh you're looking
But as it relates to doesn't need you
know why because
he says you want to know why the Bryson
didn't say anything about Bryson didn't
leave it out
this is a classic example of that was
once subject to where it doesn't need
extra so it's
that the left without because if you
know the laws of you would realize that
this is one of the exceptions to the
rule that don't need to say as the but
told him back a major lumus that's going
to take us now through a half of and
that is
it's true this is a that that's either
subject in the future potentially or was
subject to in the past doesn't need But
that's only if the time when it was
subject to it was in this case when was
the baser subject to when it was
attached to the a when it was attached
to the it wasn't it was that's why in
the you had to have a to make it because
while it's attached to the we don't look
at it as we look at it as so it's true
that this piece of matter was once upon
a time
but at that time it
It wasn't the the of making you exempt
from is true is at the time that it was
but being that over here it was
over here you don't have that says
somebody has he has leaven of
and he decides that he wants to take his
dough and he's gonna make it into a
cheer. So the question is could he do it
or not? I mean at the end of the day it
says in the
so believe it or not say that it's okay.
This is something that you're allowed to
do
says
that this cheer which can become
how would a chair become tom? What's the
classic example for a chair to become
tom? If a zv sits on it, it would become
madress. But what's madress? Someone who
has tum that's such as a z or a sits
lies or rides on something that the to
sit lie or ride on. That thing will now
get a very special tom which for our
purposes is very much a
you must say that if somebody would take
bread and he would turn it into a chair.
How do I know that's a possibility?
Because there's even a tremendous that
you must say on that chair. It must be
said about you that that it would attain
rice.
It comes out that all food is now
subject to why you have wheat. It's on
your roof and now you want share it
falls on it. And the question is it has
to be what do you mean why does it have
to be? This wheat is subject to you may
make bread and then you're going to turn
it into a cheer and then when it's a
cheer it's going to be
sits on it. So isn't it always and the
way Rashi explains the cash? It's a
festa. You know what the cash is? Cuz
how do you know this that something
that's subject to doesn't need what's
the to iter
can never be?
So the cash is fundamentally on the
whole how could you tell me it's never
for zeram
have a great case. You took the wheat
the barley you made a cheer out of it.
You see it's a real cheer because it's a
cotton pes. So it's a very real chair if
it's a real chair.
So then which knocks out the whole
premise of the which teaches me that
something
of must be said that that is not must be
it's not a real to as if to say it's not
a real chair but then if it's not a real
chair then how could you keep it in your
house on pes if it's a real chair so we
don't look at it as food anymore. It
lost its status as food. It's not food,
it's a cheer
sounds like a but okay that's the is
referring to but if you tell me it's not
a meaning it's food so it's food then
should be
but either way says it's not fair you
know why said might say the same parrots
that Rob said earlier it's true that
this food can one day be subject to but
when will it have to if it's a cheer if
it's the chair then by definition it's
not food. That's not called being shy to
the rule of food that could be
vulnerable to doesn't have of that's if
it's going to be food in the state when
it's possible for it to have this zer
would only have if it became something
other than food. Oh, if that's the case,
that's not the we're talking about
similar exchange.
In addition for it to being very bad
also it straddles a lot of laws of
right. So this is an idea that that
comes up a lot. But he something that
was offered up to an has
oil says you must say that's not a real
to it must be that oil that that was
served up to has is not a real if it's a
real to
because again I have another case where
how could they have somebody worships
the or he serves the to it becomes to
create
It's
certainly sounds like so if that's the
case then how could you tell me is never
subject to what do you mean I have
subject to say might say it's that when
somebody worship serves food it doesn't
have and as a result that's why it is
not going to be another case
what if somebody has a kali and this
cracks in the kali and he used it a hot
and as a result some of the dough let's
say that he was making in this trough it
got attached into the crevices of the of
the trough it becomes part of the kali
and it takes on the laws of ka says
if I made the same comment there must be
that's not a real
if you're going to tell me that the
dough that's in the cracks of this kali
is a real tomas
so if it's subject to it's subject to
says no same ter
Maybe it is subject to a realm. Are you
going to tell me if that's the case?
subject to the of is where it's and it's
subject to when the are stuck in the
cracks and we view it as a we're not
viewing it as a we're viewing it as a
that's why it's subject to that's not
the point of
the time
of we had this yesterday of ordinarily
is not because it's not considered but
in the in the villages they used to eat
the and as a result
in requires
and in order for it to become
you must say that when the is attached
to the kidneys so one of the that are
the so the that's attached to the
kidneys at that point it's subject to
why the is real and Anything that's a
real
it must be that's not a real
if you're going to tell me attached to
the it's subject to a real
you see if that's the case that could be
if that's so why did the B say
what do you need for this is
Because before it was detached from the
animal it was attached to the clo it was
a for the if that's the case it was not
real no again
when it was attached to the it wasn't
viewed as it was viewed as eight
therefore it's not a contradiction to
this rule one final example of this
if you have a house and top of your
house on the roof and you use this as
part of your roof say you have you put
hay
straw on the roof of your house. In the
olden days, the roofs were used, right?
It was like a as is something that comes
up very often. The bas the
gag called gag is a peric. They used to
use the gag. Anyways, a person covered
up his roof and he put straw there and
in the straw there was some seeds. So
those seeds that were intermingled with
the straw become part of the roof.
That's the says the rice it must be that
is not which to which to the to of this
week's par the of which can affect the
bias as well that now will be part of
the bias and will be to the of must be
it's not a real
a great example of how could be it can
even have the to of must be it's not a
real tommo because if it's a real that
knocks out the whole that says that's
not subject to say same exact you're
right you see that can have but when's
it going to have if it's a roof if it's
a roof that's not the we're discussing
food that in the state of food can beam
that's where you have this either way so
the garra digressed a little bit from
its original discussion which was a kaz
boser minhakai that was removed from
although it's not
is not but at the same time if it was
attached to then you would have to look
at it from the perspective and the
discuss that in the event that it would
be subject to how's that possible that
was the price we had to treat it as
before you removed it what about so
wrong seem to think it would require all
in order for them to become needs to
this would need to as well. I suggested
maybe this wouldn't need to because
being that when it was attached to the
it had the tom of that's there's a rule
that anything that's subject to doesn't
require
for
maybe not because maybe although there
is such a rule that rule says that if
in the state of would be subject to then
we say that even if right now it's not
subject to and you're ding it from a
tomal perspective. It doesn't need to.
But if could maybe in a different gull
become something other than and then be
subject to it could be part of a roof,
part of a ki, it could be a chair, it
could be anything. The fact that at that
point it would be subject to that
doesn't impact in any way, shape or form
the says that when it's in the state of
it requires in order for it to be either
way. The Gmorra continues its discussion
of the Mishna
which again was discussing the laws of
Dulo. So the Mishna was talking about
the and said three and again this is
important for the first was that
even though
it's looks and feels a lot like
but it's different from a standpoint as
it relates to is then not sources of
stating that a bigish that even while
they're attached to the animal that's
subject to the laws of that's a very
bigish because usually something alive
can't have even that you're eat alive
doesn't have to so it's a very bigish
that the
will have but that was the first second
of the was what happens if you
while it had this so then is the same as
it relates to the it's still not going
to have a be a source of to the fact
that it was a doesn't now make it a a
source of it's going to continue to be
subject to
whether the is
or not and the gave six
and what exactly that this was the third
case of the which is where the gumar now
picks up is what happens if there was an
animal that had
now the animal died it died naturally in
other words the animal became a so is
the mission said the buser is going to
meaning the fact that the animal died
doesn't change the is still going to be
viewed as it's going to require the
however
at first glance it sounds like
what about the according to the is going
to be it's going to be viewed as
and not a
shim says it's not even going to be
what's the already explained That's what
Rome is. Reme
what does that mean? It means that when
you have an Arabul and then the animal
dies, the way we look at the animal's
death impacting the a is is it completed
what had already almost happened while
the animal was alive. So that that aver
we look at not dying when the animal
died but as if when the animal dies that
aa retroactively died when it had almost
died which is while the animal was alive
if that makes any sense. So the of the
animal now deems the
>> it's a little counterintuitive
exactly but that's the it's very
important
this is just for on a level this is very
critical and that is that the of the
animal is it creates the
says even though is not but once the
animal dies the mis makes the
is a source of the boss
because
so this can't be any better than but as
it relates to the
says it's meaning doesn't hold it as
at first glance but if that's the case
the gmorra asks the very obvious
questions
and when the animal dies it completes
what had almost been completed while the
animal was alive meaning it makes the
my so to speak.
If that's the case and it should be
doesn't hold it as far
doesn't make the
why is it any wor because it was an
Abraham now somehow it's from becoming
it was part of a live animal now that
this live animal died it should be bust
or even so it should for sure be that's
the mean is consistent
so you don't look at it is
the boss is going to be because of the
is going to be because
if he holds then at the very least the
should be tommy for and if he says
then should be for even the buster
should be a problem because so what's in
see all we had in our was two three
words
that's all we had we assumed that is
going back on the last the third case of
is really referring back to the first
the first of the was maybe the biggest
of the simplest but the biggest
said what was the first of the first was
that
is subject to even while it's attached
to the animal what do you mean if it's
attached to the animal a live animal
doesn't have to so that's where is
coming to argue it says
on that. He doesn't agree. He holds an
Abraham.
He's not arguing with all that. But you
want it to be while it's attached to an
animal. It doesn't work that way.
Now that we establish arguing with the
it's for now, by the way, we're going to
revisit this soon. But for arguing with
the race of the what's the name and I'll
tell you the
and we learn from
that any food that you can feed to
somebody else is considered
but any food that you can't feed to
somebody else is not considered this
is not subject to something we saw very
briefly yesterday but anything that's
not
and could You feed it to somebody? Of
course not. It's attached to an animal.
So right now, nobody could eat it. Yid
can't eat it and can't eat it. We're
going to see can't eat even after it's
detached. No one could eat this. And
that nobody could eat it. So for that
reason, we're out of business. It's not
if it's
holds this is this is the this is said
in the name. That's why says the raassi
told in the beginning of the daff we had
raassi here again tellsi why do you need
this
needed a to explain as if without a
saying such a big I think
I wouldn't say my
make a whole
is very posit
you want to know why and doesn't have
very simple because the is attached to
the animal and a live animal and and I
don't care that it's hanging on for dear
life that that has no impact at the end
of the day
says the and I'll prove to you that this
such a do you have that this is not this
is we're
and also
which was yesterday
[laughter] a branch
that got almost completely separated
from the tree. It is hanging on with
audit.
Why? Because it's hanging on at the end
of the day. It's attached to a tree.
If you can wrap it up together with the
tree and make it live, then it's going
to be okay. But if you can't save it,
it's just a matter of time. Then we look
at it as if it's already attached.
What's
says that no it's for sure considered
it's always you yourself told us this is
telling
so you see this it doesn't matter if
it's it doesn't matter if it's
at the end of the day if it's attached
it's attached so
why would you need this beer for
so he told him back you're right
it's true when
said
from the
he wasn't coming to explain this which
the of the which we just said is really
going back on the rather which was he
coming to explain that's mentioned a
little bit moreish in the Mishna more
explicitly that's of the of the middle
case what was the middle case
the question is does the
so that out to be subject to or is it
not that said it is said it's not it was
on that that said
he said it's not
that's where he explained the
and here he needed it cuz here you the
animal see in the ratio it was all
attached so there you have
but over here it's not attached because
you shacked the animal So why should it
not be okay was the was so for that said
that's not you know why holds it's an
issue it's an issue because it's
in other words we have a
in the what's in the because it's
asks the very obvious question we had
six
earlier in the
again why do I need now
as pos to tell that was never an issue
that we had so many by the way was one
of the in that
and you could say over here there were
six over there you're right really he
was coming to explain the
the last case of the and he wasn't
coming to explain of a but rather he was
coming to explain
said
this is a
so we thought first was going on the
safe we couldn't make sense of it so we
said really is going on the now the
saying is going on the safer
is going on the safer although rashi
speaks out that once we say the shim is
going on the safer kosh he's going to be
going on the RA last before the Mishna.
But the point is we don't have to say is
going back on the Rim is really going on
the what's he coming to say? He's coming
to argue with
the Tanakama said or mayor said in that
the
after the animal dies is
says no it can't become you know why
the reason says in the as it relates to
is because being that it's
not something that could be subject
because
is not only
and as a result the is that it's
why you're going to be there's no way
for it to be
believe it or not this of
which is a real as it relates to it's
something that impacts the Tomas as
well. How so? Because we know a person
is to
not just that an aame
is to an
is as we'll see in the a discussion
whether it's as well. So we're going to
discuss now the and the of a human being
as it relates to the of not the because
now let human flesh but it with regards
to the of
and
as it relates to
etc. So you have to now look at the
from the context of that's this last.
So as it relates to it's going to be
which is very similar to the previous
Mishna the
of was also that's a whole different
discussion that's a secondary to that
means it can be a recipient of but it's
not a source of by it's not a source of
by what happens if the person dies
it's the same when the person dies the
is
being that the is we look at the boss as
if it was removed while the person was
alive. Thus the boser's because
so if a person loses a little bit of
baser is a pound of flesh that
is not going to have the ability to be
but
is not mama
and a of a human being is mama. This is
big problems with and things. So is thus
so when the person dies we look at it as
if the and the bus were removed while
the person was still alive thus the bus
is going to be the is going to be but as
it relates to the it's
in the of the previous it's so we don't
look at it as we look at it as what's
the difference the is going to say and
again this very ambiguous conclusion to
the Mishna of
why is hold it star. Again you have a
person who has an a or
now the person died. Shim says the a is
going to be says the is going to be
but
sh is going to be
if he holds me says so then we look at
the as if it was detached before the
person died at the time.
Let's look at having the same exact
question we had a few minutes ago
is not going back on the like a very
similar approach is taking to what it
took in the previous but rather
it's not even going back on that's what
means
right he's not even referring back to
this what does that mean
was
on a
said so if you have an it falls off or
the person dies.
We look at as if it fell off while the
person was still alive. We look at as
and not. So said,
"Wow, you see I see a
he
cuz what was his lo this
as if to say the something called
this just so happens to be is not to
because we look at as if it was rub and
it was a lie." Shim said you hold that
in
the
that's nothing to do with
arguing in
that's what he's talking about he's
saying that there's no such thing as the
a of a to be that's what he's arguing on
how does he know that holds because said
that the is he said it's
and as if to say there would have been
two options. It's option A, not option
B. But clearly there's two options.
There's a mus of Abra and says I
disagree with that premise. That's what
he's arguing with something that's not
before. It's a little bit of a that's
what the is going to fall off of it. But
for now that's what the Gmorrah says is
saying says the Gmorra who holds is
there such a thing that you could hold
that in a is not and to add insult to
injury to hold that is sounds like
doesn't have a problem with it sounds
like this problem is so of a human being
is but is not it's a price believe it or
not it's a price
I heard
only
said
it
from
and then he continued he said you know
it says
no it's a thus there's no
does that mean that on the
Yeah,
of course. Whatever you Yeshua told you
you heard that
didn't mean
that's like saying
you heard that even
this is what I heard and if this is what
I heard this is what I heard either way
says the
you see from here this concept that it's
possible to hold that is not it's
rebel that's
he's not arguing with
because he has to hold one of the two
but rather he's arguing with the premise
that somehow was presupposed in what
said which is that
is he holds like is not again this is
all with humans not with says the
mayor said that it's
not as if to say there's a difference
what's the difference The says two
differences.
What would be if was separated from this
a or a bone the size of a was separated
from this authent
if you hold it like
do that would be your Northern
over there the names switch is the one
that says
but the point is there are two
differences
now that you're telling me that there's
nuances within the laws of
of a human being as it relates to the
or the
then you can revisit
was we're trying to figure out what said
doesn't seem like he's arguing with the
of the so we said
he's arguing with a
that the is making in his discussion of
this which is that that
says and we say like
not even though it's a no no but the
point is is that that's what says the
you don't have to come on to
You could say that really
is this is between on the one side on
the other side with regards to
or
with
on one side on the other side with
that is
there's a long rash that explains this
last line in greater detail but either
loosely translated could be the iso that
on that note
the concept of a second day y in
is a very big
mid there's no such thing as two days
yontiff every single yontiff was one day
meaning even pes and sukus is the Tory
says there's a first day of Pes and then
there's a a last day of Pes all the days
in between are really
stating that init there's two first days
Pes and there are two second days Pes
and that's true for every single Y the
reason there's a a two-day Yantiff is
based on the fact that once upon a timed
was Mikadesh
and and the yidden that were living in
didn't necessarily know when was as a
result they didn't necessarily know when
yontiff was. So when yontiff came around
they always had a suffic is today
yontiff or tomorrow yontiff. Now they
were able to narrow it down to two days.
And the reason is because
could be either Mal or so going from the
previous
is going to be either on day 30 or day
31. So they always had a little bit of
an idea of when rushed was hence when
Yontiff was going to be. But at the same
time they couldn't pin it down to the
exact day. They narrowed it down to two.
And those were the two days Yontiff that
the Yidden would observe. It was
something that was done.
Safik but the gar in the beginning of BA
already says that there was a yid an amo
whose name was he instituted a calendar
that we still use and leverage maz so
that when the world would be in a place
where we no longer have a that sits in
the no longer able to be mad
we would still know when yontiff is soar
says that if we know when yontiff is so
there's no really between. So why would
we keep two days? And the gives an
answer
you should be very nizer in this minute.
But the bottom line is the idea of a
second day y was instituted back in the
day because of a technical issue. It was
really misopic and bismano. We don't
even have a suffic but we observe it
because
and the gumar gives reasons why we
should be concerned and why we should
take on the mic that our el is kept even
though the underlying reason is really
completely irrelevant but if you look at
the struggle with this idea at the end
of the day yontiff is one day it's not a
second day and even though once upon a
time there was a suffix today there is
No suffic. So how then do you keep a
second day yon
based on no less when you know
it's not really yont yontiff requires
you to
change the
yontiff requires you to make kdesh yont
requires you not to put on fill there's
certain mitzvah I say that you're mean
there are certain mitzvah I say that
you're matal because of the fact that
durabon decided that it's who gave the
Raan and the Rash the ability to go
ahead and implement such a thing and
this is a that talk about in different
places at the core of it is what rights
what license do the really have when it
comes to playing around with
but this question of yonteni this
existential question of how do you
understand the idea of a yonti which by
the way is only it's not inherit it's
most manifest when it comes to rashash
shana and the reason is because
sh is
and when we celebrate a second day rash
shah essentially what we're now doing is
we're celebrating we're living a second
yaden how's that possible
It's
it's one day of
based on again interesting historical uh
circumstances said that
we're going to go and we're going to
keep a second day rash to make kesh I
could hear to change the I could hear
not to put on fill in obviously the to
do that But a second
was whatever the real day is. That's the
first day. That was yesterday. So what
does that mean? That because of
because of the general idea of
now we're going to have uh a second.
Now there would be mimic
to say that we know that the two-day
yontiff as it relates toash was
different than the two-day yontiff as it
relates to all the other it's what's
known in the vernacular as a so as much
as the two days of rash are two days but
really treats them as one day it's for
that reason whether you make a on the
second night rash and the tour brings
bash his father the rush that He was
between these two haram between these
two graces ravi and he said that make a
shakyanu but at the same time have a new
fruit or something else new and have in
mind that
so that when you make the shakayanu on
the side you weren't supposed to make
the shakyanu you won't make a a and it's
all based on the fact that although
every time there's a two-day yontiff of
course you make a shakayanu on the
second day the only reason you're
observing the second day is because it
might be the first day and even though
now we know it's really not the first
day but being that it's
because of something that
as relates to it's a little bit
different as relates to we view the two
days as a being that it's sad to say not
even to make a on the second day now if
it's so maybe the ling can say it's not
a second
it's one very very long day and the
first half of that day we're going to
say etc and we're going to do it in the
second half of the day as well. It
sounds good in the world of lumbus but
at the end of the day when you go
through the sug
is a nuance within a world of keeping a
second day y based on based on the fact
that I don't really know what day
the is and what day y really is and it's
for that reason even after understanding
it's pit that it's
how is it possible for there to be two
days rush
I understand two days but how's it
possible there to be two days because of
the fact is
the on shabas is the on Sunday if on
shabas when we say
there was a judge and there was a jury
and there were lawyers and there was
if that all happened on
well then it's not happening again on
Sunday so Why are we going through this
again on Sunday if it already happened?
Somebody was going to stand in front of
a judge in this world. So the court case
might be on Monday, might be on Tuesday.
If on Monday there's a zardin, then
nothing's happening on Tuesday. So we
have to visualize this. We have to make
this real. So if it is, what does it
mean the second day? The truth is
[snorts]
in his melio and this is B. It's page
74. He pers this and he says out loud
what we're all thinking.
going
for
how is it possible that
how does it make sense? that if there
was a yin on the first day, there's
going to be another yin on the second
day. And desler says that the mahalak is
based on aadesh which is uh that's
quoted throughout all the so if you go
through the
and you go through all of these
this is an idea that very much is
permeated and
the idea of desire is paras
it's alfan
>> [snorts]
>> says
what exactly does it mean?
It's like a double
what does it mean?
This is being to the two days of rash.
Why two days begin? The reason is
because really in Shayim there are two
there are two bezdens not one there are
two there are two
and these two bezdens each rule and then
they have a they somehow connect they
join forces and they become one of these
two din there is the din theashia which
is a dasha that's intense
And the second one is a lowerd
which is much softer which is not so
intense.
And these two
rule and judge on rashash and it's for
that reason there are two days of
rashash and that's the beer in
there's two days. Why would there be two
days? Because there's two there's two.
So you don't stand in front of one
bezdon, you stand in front of two denim.
And one is a dino like this higher
circuit this upper bezden the ioashia
and the other one is a dinia
saresh continues and says
it's regarding this that the babylonians
meaning
they didn't fully appreciate and
understand specifically the above of the
reason that when we blow so there's a
there's
And there's a truer. Now the gumar says
that what's the true all about? We're
familiar with the we're familiar with
the truer. Where is the come from? So
it's a that says it's because there was
a suffic the didn't know exactly how you
supposed to blow the truer. And the two
either it's what we know as thearim or
it's what we know as the truer. And it's
for that reason they did both. It says
that really the
they didn't fully appreciate didn't they
didn't fully understand that really both
of these ideas are needed. yellow
looser. We have to do the tru the
because that's going to give us the zur
that we need in the dinio and the and we
need the
because that's going to give us the zor
that we need in the
either way it says that these two
bezdens that are on rash. One is a
the other one is a tat. The one that's
is the one that's is rafia. One is on
one day, the other is on the other day.
That's the of the two days of rash.
That's the of the because we know what
the tru is part one, right? The whole
idea is like and say the idea is that
there should be a
shouldn't just be everything. We want
him to remember the good things, right?
It should be
that's what it is that we're trying to
get. trying to get the on the we get the
valu and on the we get the
and that's this idea of the and the
not it's
didn't know the secret they didn't know
this and that's why to them it was a
very
but really
in this a whole different thing and
that's the rem ofish trial.
I saw Margolus in his pish on the side
of the
he says.
So says that as it relates to this
which clearly is a
literally [snorts] as it relates to this
says a few he have to say so just to
quote what is referring to
this is in par
says
there's two in the world There's dinasio
and there's dinar rafio dinasio
dinashio is very intense din
as opposed to dinafio that's very weak
it's soft
when the dinio is from the dinasio
it makes the rafia stronger the
den which was really rafia suddenly
becomes stronger so says the zy there's
And there's a rafia and when the raashio
it too becomes a little bit cash
says desire
judges
that uses if warranted is the dinina
and to make sure that that is not going
to be from
Because if it does, it's going to become
as well.
But when the judges
then
somehow latches on to the
begin so that it becomes strong
pass through Egypt to go ahead and to
give them the neg that was and what's
the
what's the is
anger. What does it mean that anger? It
means that took and he put it together
with
that's of what it means. But this is
already
where you find this idea of the caching
and even though there's that sometimes
is
and the same thing is as regards to but
when it comes to it's always when it
comes to the it's always
told us that was right in the beginning
Who's
the
because the rose and when it sits
amongst all the nations it's literally
sitting amongst all the thorns.
Here's the site
came from the
we know is the
he was
and theu
did was with everybody
even though himself who comes from the
wasashia. So you have
who was Dinaashia who came he was the
offspring of Abramu who was vifa his
wife Rifka Asasra the dinasha he came
from the sitra of dinakashia of bou he
came from that world and Rifka herself
was
emerged from them this
and somehow became
Rifka herself came from
even though she herself came from but
she herself was
and we know that she was that's what
that's why he thought that this was
going to be an unbelievable deal if
that's the case
himself is yet comes comes from
comes from Abrau that deseresh calls
dinarafia
the rafia and riif is dinafia she's even
though she comes from what she comes
from and that's
there together
is
the that's mixed together with the comes
from and the said that's mixed together
with the comes from the
says were it not for the fact that was
the world would not be able to be the
meaning
was so intense the world would not be
able to be so what to do to temper the
dinash of gave an agg a zeog who is the
zeog is Rifka Rifus and Rifus goes ahead
and somehow that softens the
and says
every single that there is in the world.
But this is what does Hashem takes
takes one person who's like and another
person that's like
begin the list
and by putting together like this
opposites attract on the deepest of most
capitalistic levels and that's what
makes the world go around. But the
bottom line is again we don't know what
all this means. We're just taking out
one thing that there's an idea of a of a
dinina kashia and there's a dinner of of
an idea of a dinina ra the [snorts] last
quotes is actually a niglo it's a it's a
bracious rabb the context over there is
giving it's in the context of the
rainbow right
one of the were there said the following
This is Margolus 101. You learned the
inf
sounds like some obscure maramokim in
the world of the two days. Rashash is
the new that really this permeates all
the
and this is an idea that's expressed
throughout the kadesh and it even makes
its way into a which many of the as well
but the point is is that there's an idea
of a bezden
and there's an idea of a bezden tat the
bezdonah dance with dininaashia and the
bezdon tat dance with Adina Rafia. Every
single person on Rashashana goes through
two din he's judged twice. The first
time it's the Bezden of Dina and the
second time it's the best of Dina Rafia.
And that's why there's two days of
Rashan. Now what exactly this means this
is above my pay grade. But at the same
time at the same time it's not just oh
there's a and because there's a that's
why there's two days and we're just
doing it. So, we're going to stay on and
we're going to try to fake it till we
make it. Let's just make believe. Ku
this is uh it's really rash. But come
on, wink wink. Let's be honest. This all
happened yesterday. So, you know, at
this point, whatever happened happened,
right? No, it's not the way this works.
In pia, there are actually two din.
Obviously, the dinashi is more tense,
which would then lend some intensity to
the first day Russia even more than the
second day Russian. What could be more
intense than the Madin? Well, Dina
versus Dina Rafia. That's what could be
and the first day is the day of the
second day is the day of
bring from different is what these two
dinina might mean again all above my pay
grade but the bottom line is as it
relates to just knowing the ms knowing
the truth there are two there's a
there's a rafia it's interesting raesler
in that piece says but doesn't say it's
now paras would say exactly what he said
with regards to the
it's
says an idea that we've said over so
many times and that is that every single
time there's a tonal kazal gave us one
reason for it and that reason is known
as the tam nigla but really there are
many other reasons known as the tamistar
the bign for this is mashkin which the
is not something you have to worry about
because we don't live in a world where
you have
you know crawling around your kitchen
and if you do you call an exterminator
it's not an issue but the god was very
mulan and the go said because even
though kazal said don't drink mulim
because of that was only the really so
if says that yeah in the whole two days
as it relates to is based on the same
yeah it's
Because you know it was neg
but the bottom line is that's all in the
as relates to the
honey did know the of the says that the
honey didn't know it but even that too I
saw all the says what does it mean the
didn't know it can't be the didn't know
it so but the bottom line is just a
little bit of a again not understanding
what this is like the gagal gag of the
so we don't fully understand and
appreciate everything but at the same
time we have to understand that there's
two days because there's two there's two
there's the and the raia that's the
first order the second order is
so when exactly is the
right so when the kazin gets up with the
haunting niggan and he says bar on the
first night rushes on it right then and
there is that the yaden is in the
morning. It's by Mosf. I think most
people feel the most by
is that when the is
right it's for sure one of the visuals
of your im standing in front of the and
hopefully this year more so
there should be a we should all have a
what about like 3 minutes before is it
still the like is there a point on the
where you can breathe you can exhale
right if somebody stands in front of a
mishbat and uh his court case is uh
11:30. Okay, so by 12:30 it's over. I
mean even though it's the technically
at that point he's no longer involved in
the So when exactly during the day is
the exactly how does it play itself out?
The truth is this is an idea that's in
Kazal if you know how to find it the
inash
obviously it's
the says
says
talking
judges the during the day
while they're engaged in mitzvah
who judges the nations at night
when they're not doing a meaning when
judges he likes to judge at a time where
we have the best shot
to look good. So when do the yidden look
best during the day why they're mitzvah.
When do look best when they're sleeping.
So it's for that reason judges
It's pretty straightforward. Said that
is by day. So when we say at night, the
din didn't didn't happen yet. The dinner
is not going to happen until the day.
Now that's only true for the as relates
to for them the dinner is night at
night. The truth is this rabi that's
quoted in your is quoted verbatim in a
medish. It's in
it's also a that's the and this is
so it's the same that's mentioned three
times it's in it's in
said judges the day I saw in the
from
he says based on this he says it's your
dua that the Shabu brings
a very big in the name of one of the
great
Vasfeller, right? writer was one of the
inn the times of the and of the and he
said that reverberates in
and that is you know that during if you
forget to say so you have to
go back and you have to repeat again
stating that
said if somebody would forget to say on
the first night rash shame on him but if
somebody would forget to do that you
wouldn't go back. He said why not?
except because we know that if you
forget to say,
you have to go back. But if you forget
to say onesh by night, you don't go
back. And the reason is because didn't
convene at night. As a result, they
couldn't be mad to at night. And because
they couldn't be mad to at night, so
night is not as man where you can. And
based on that, you wouldn't go back for
because it can't be at night anyways.
You're saying to be mas the fact that
it's well at night they couldn't make
was always going to start during the day
and it's for that reason if you missed
it's not such a problem said fail well
if that's the case when is rash it's
also onesh it has to be alish in order
for it to be
it's and you get a right you get a
double uh whammy it's also rash but it
has to beesh it's the same thing when
it's rash it's rash it's being that
peasant wasn't.
So if you don't have the
ofash
at night, it's no different than if you
didn't have the of
you wouldn't have to go back
very well
and there's so many
right every
has at least one sim on the from but
said
he said I'm going to add one to this and
that is Why do we say
what's
of course related to the fact that
that's the day that judges and that's
when he shows his so much
and says doesn't judge at night only
judges by day that means
is less
than it is and if that's the case said
that would be a reason that if somebody
forgot to say at night even though
really he's supposed to go back maybe it
would be okay not to go back I saw
in
he brings this from
and he says I just have one pickbook
because when we say that judges it
doesn't just mean he judges us he means
he judges the entire world and it's that
judges so that's not enough of a reason
to go ahead and to say and he says I
think That's why it's that the time the
vas gave was the fact that wasn't okay.
So then it's it's notes. So that's
already maybe a different but the bottom
line is just a very thoughtprovoking
from the
okay so we know that the is when for the
yen, right? We're talking benu right now
it's by day. So here's the follow-up
question. What time? When during the day
it's like first thing in the morning or
if that's case you wake up right when
during the day when during the day is
the truth is it's a
person should not
during the first three hours of the
Okay.
On the first day of the year.
Okay. So
during the first three hours of the day
of what's the reason
cuz being that it's this man of
it could be they're going to look at
this person's
very very carefully
and they're going to push away his now
it's a little bit of a hard to
understand and the Gmorra goes through
it says if you're worried that that feel
is going to be pushed away. What does it
have to do with it should be true for
and what does it have to do with it
should be true for the addresses all of
that. But here's the point said that you
shouldn't d
on [snorts]
during the first three hours of the day
because it's it's a time of den and
being that it's a a time of den. So it's
for that reason you want to make sure
that your is not going to be pushed
away.
It sounds like from then when is the of
it sounds like it's during the first
three hours of the day.
But you said this is
you said
that during the first three hours of the
day doesn't judge sits and learns. What
does this mean? So if you go back to the
says
the day is made up of 12 hours
during the first three hours of the day
sits and learns
who judges the world
who sees that the world deserves to be
wiped out.
The third three hours of the day
goes and supports the world. He sustains
the world
sits and he's
rejoices with the as the blessing says.
This is something that apparently
repeats itself every day which by the
way sounds like there's some level of
den that happens every single day.
enough for now. But says the Gmor, what
does it sound like? It sounds like this
man of be it for every day is when it's
the second set of three hours of the
day. It's not
it's THE
it's the second set. If that's the way
it is every day, it's probably the way
it is. So why did say
right? Why is he worried about the first
three hours of the day the first three
hours of day
the of like whatever there is every day
probably happens during the second three
hours of the day. So that should have
been and gives two roots. The first says
you should go ahead and make an what do
you mean
that when the says the first three hours
sits and learns and it's the second
three hours that goes and judges it's
really the other way around. the first
three hours
judges. It's the second three hours that
is
if that's the case, it stems. That's
said literally
not the
because those are the three hours of the
whole year which would make them the
hours of on as well. And it's for that
reason it's then that you should go
ahead and do the says don't go ahead and
be who said it's a don't go
said but rather when it comes to it says
MS
was actually more worried about this guy
domining
during the 3 hours leading up to the
than during the three hours of the
actual the three hours leading up to the
is being in the world of MS
and is being in the world of MS that's
actually a scarier time when
is not MS it's not MS it's not MS it's
during that time says I think you could
breathe a little better because during
that time there's
of and in the world of I'm not so
worried that is going to be completely
pushed away. So whatever concern had
that's not true. But here's the point.
What emerges from
day or the dinner is during the second
three hours of the day.
And this is in
this is a person should not
unless it's going to be after the first
three hours of the day. Why not?
because those are the three hours of the
day where
judges the world and it's for that
reason it's then that you're going to
have this in other words the is being
the
like was
which is the source to this in the first
and that is and that is that even though
said the first three hours
it's the second three
But you have to make an you actually
have to flip it around really judges
during the first three hours. And that
seems to be the way the taz understood
this.
There's another place in where this
plays itself out. We spoke about this
yesterday
after the first night of
that's what says the guy says no it's
supposed to be it's not supposed to be
says the
that aftering on the first day of
don't say it anymore
because you want to know when the is
when's the
as opposed to the who are getting pushed
off anyways I mean depending [snorts] on
the but you want to know when the is
when the is
so at this point if you're going to go
ahead and you're going to say
right it's inappropriate again either
you're you're a ben or you're missing
the whole point the way the guy learns.
But the bottom line is is that at the
end of the day, you don't say
after
day cuz at that point
it's after the says I'm skipping. I'm
not the mask. You know why? Cuz isn't
there a second day?
There's a SECOND DAY. SO OF COURSE YOU
should say
when you see your friend after why
because you're vinching him on because
tomorrow we're doing this again right so
it's going to happen all over again says
I disagree I hear what the lush is
saying is not something I agree with the
also brings the
when he brings the lavush says I
disagree with the lavush for a different
reason he said because the lavush when
he said that [snorts] don't
after
he said it because
it's the first three hours of day.
says
he clearly wasing like the first
but we hold like the second of the
says my pickbook with the is something
else. I have a problem with
like the first we have a
is not like the first of the is really
like the second ter of the in other
words these two of the which is
literally
when is the is the first three hours of
the day or is it the second three hours
we know it's not at night that's a
[laughter] but the question is when
during the day is it so we narrowed it
down to either the first three hours of
the day or the second three hours of the
day. The taz in
and it's also that way in the says it's
during the first three hours of the day
like the first terret of the
says no there's a there's a
when really is
when is of when it's happening it's
during the second three hours of the day
but the bottom line is it seems to be
is between the on the one hand the on
the other hand seems to say it seems to
be him that this is the way it was
whether the is the first three hours of
day second three hours a day so one
thing is for sure it's not after right
what does it mean the first three and
the second three again this is that's it
requires [snorts] a whole smooz on to
itself but you basically take the day
and you divide it into four sets of of
three hours
the midway point is so working backwards
from it's either the first half of that
period or it's the second half of that
period but once happens it's already
it's already after the it's already
after the now the first day of Rashan is
always interesting because in as much as
it's after but that already said you
could even say
because there's still going to be a din
where you would probably feel it a
little bit more is the second day that
if the second day you're saying
I don't know ask your local rabbi But
the bottom line is local but
is that as it relates to when exactly
the dinners we know it's
a that's
a
it's a
when during the day is it so it's really
and it seems to be
our literally the ones that teach us
But we narrowed it down at least to two
sets of three hours. It's either the
first three hours of the day or like the
said
and it's a double that it's the second
set of three hours of the day just to
end I saw in the
margles.
You're never disappointed when you open
up any of this of Margolas. Now if
you're going through the first 10 or so
daff we know this in our margles wrote
his epic marg he started writing he
ended up stopping but on the first 10 or
so on there's so much there says margles
so apparently one of the farm we don't
have margles wrote was a safe ramen hog
I
Why isn't it that we say
with the haunting on the first day we
say it by and on the second day WE SAY
IT BY
IS IT or is it
it's to be the twoas in the which
trickle themselves down to two in there
that says
it's happening during the first three
hours of the day and there's a that says
it's happening it's happening during the
second three hours of the day
to say the first day to be
which is the first of the
and then to say by to be which is the
second of the and this is very much
had to vimish.