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Today's
and we are nine lines from the bottom of
so the Mishna
brought an intense
between
regarding Tomas. So a NA in addition to
being is also
you don't need the entire NA in order to
have to rather a kaz of basa is enough
to be mat the tan discuss what happens
if you have the hide of an animal and
attached to the hide of the animal is a
little bit of baser and that boser adds
up to a kazayas is that enough for it to
transmit to or not you have a kazayas
bus available perhaps Yes. Or being that
it's attached to the maybe it's going to
be differentish if the entire
is together as one. Even if it's
attached to the it's going to be no both
if however the is not in one clump but
rather you have two
you have a and that are attached to the
same even though they're via the being
that you don't have the kaz together
it's not so posh that there would be to
what's the rabbi says there's no ma
there is masaka says You can't have one
without the other. And being that
there's no m you're not going to have
masa either. stating that the Mishna
said in the event that you would have
two
of
they weren't attached to but rather they
were connected with a likeab
and then you moved it to you're going to
be Tommy in other words doesn't disagree
fundamentally with Rabi that it's
impossible to have tumos neo with twoimm
that are attached the fact that the
katiim are separate and they're merely
attached by something superficial that
in and of itself is not a reason for it
not to have why then does hold in the if
you have two of that are attached to
act
himself explained it in the
it's a separate it's because each half
of is bottled to the as a result you
don't have a because two things that are
each bottle don't eat add up to
anything. In other words, as it relates
to
that attach to
both there's no as it relates to Tomas
Masa Rabish says this Tomas Masa. If
somebody would carry this height, he
would become to Rabaka says there's no
Tomas Masa stating that Rabaka agrees
that it's possible to have Tomas Masa of
Na even if you have two Z that are
separate. How so? If they were attached
not via but they were attached with a
such as a kebab. What's the difference?
When they're attached to the is each
half is thus you don't have a if
[snorts] they're attached via does
nothing
agrees that you could bear of two half
and have stating that the begins today's
d with a member from who was an which at
first glance would seem to contradict
everything that we just said.
saying if somebody has two of and he
attached them together with this
he could pick it up put it down carry it
this way that way is my what's the
reason because the p when it describes
that someone that carries a noa is
noa is transmitted via ma and masa and
when the describes the tumas masa
component of an a says veno. But if you
look at the word in the it's written
there's no v in veno.
Thus what we do is we say that even
though the way the word is pronounced
[snorts] the of the word is no but it's
written as if it would have said
how do we
say someone who carries
would seem to suggest that you have to
carry a two halfim that are attached by
something external is not considered
and it's for that reason says
If you would take two half of an and you
would carry it the whole day
is that you're going to be why it's
because when the says it's written as if
it would say
what's the it contradicts everything in
our
said that if you have two of it's
attached to the R you carry the
argues
And as a result is going to be
how could
say then that
you see from
that even though the two halfim are
separate they're merely attached via the
still
said
you have to say that is talking about we
are although Though the two half asim
were separate but there was one rituous
bas there was one strip of meat that
attached the two halfim being that they
are attached albeit with this very thin
strip of meat that's enough for it to be
considered
and it's for that reason you're going to
be was talking about where there was no
attaching the two halfm in that case
it's not going to be
another or another from the next part of
the even though says that if you have
two of that are attached to the ismas or
but the
if you would have two
that were attached with a rod they were
attached with a a
and you carried it
this literally contradicts
you have to say the same it's talking
about although they were separate but
there was this rua that was attaching
the two halfimm and it's for that was
talking about where there was to us
and our discussing what was say at first
glance it would seem that this of
is really not
but perhaps it's implied from what at
first glance would seem to be an
ambiguous the says as follows
if somebody touches or if somebody moves
he becomes tot
says even someone that carries a now if
you read the carefully at first glance
it's a little
said that if you touch or if you move
you become
he says not only if you move it but even
if you carry it
when you carry it you're moving it so
what does that mean must be this is the
holds
that
if you touch if you move
but he doesn't require that the be able
to be carried for us
[snorts] came to be who not we know if
he's coming to add a criteria and that
is that it has to be not the
it has to be able to be carried
The point is so it would seem then that
this
needs to be able to be carried or not
it would seem to be
but asks
if is coming to do is tell me that the
only time is if it's that means is
coming to limit.
He's being the laws of Tomas. He's
saying that the only time is if it was
able to be that's not what the word a
sounds like sounds like he's being he's
being
is not being the way we're understanding
El's actually being he's saying that the
only time is if it's possible for it to
be but if it can't be then there's not
going to be that's not a is even more
change the word you're right if that's
the problem
instead of saying
say who for who he's being in fact
either way the garra suggests that this
of is really
either way so the is going to now shift
its attention from the often
to the of
ais usually means the thigh bone, the
femur in our Mishna, what kulus is going
to mean is any bone that has marrow in
it. So the thigh has marrow in it. Any
bone that has marrow in it in our Mishna
is going to be referred to as a kulus.
So there's some bones that have bone
marrow. There are bones that do not have
bone marrow. Our Mishna is talking
specifically about bones that have
marrow. says the Mishna the a bone of a
human corpse that has marrow in it
or the bone of a that's
that has marrow in it. Rashi says right
away what kind of
are we referring to. Rashi sends us to
the very end of
a fascinating
that we discussed in somewhat detail
when we learned and that is
so we're very familiar with and we're
very familiar with
are two of the prototypical when you're
dealing with something becomes piggle
when was doing the
toer
happens when the
carbon is left over beyond its time.
Those they carry with them the
but in addition to all that to add
insult to injury the said that if
somebody comes in contact with pigle
flesh that's big or if someone comes in
contact with he's going to be so in
addition to all the and
all the
and brisk etc. There's also so somebody
touches if it comes to why it's not the
so why have to do that already
felt that even though but there may be
that are going to have a piggle why
would they do it to get back at there
may be kayan that are going to be lazy
and they're and they're not going to
make sure that the buser doesn't turn
into noiser What did they do? Tommo, as
we've seen, we spoke about this last
week, Tommo, for some reason carried a
very important place as it relates to
the conscience of the And if you tell
the oh, if there's going to be pigle
now, you're going to become. So that
already was able to but the point is
no. So if you have the that's a bone of
a carbon that's piggle or no that has
marrow inside of it. What's that
again? Bone marrow of a human
or a
that's now because it's either piggle or
noise or I don't get the hand if
somebody touches
whether the bone was completely sealed
off. So the marrow is completely
absorbed inside this bone that
or whether it has a hole the person's
going to be available of a what about
the coolest of a animal that isn't avail
to the extent that the bone
He's not going to be even
explain all this.
We saw this already yesterday
that there's no
to the extent that the can't be either
because the two are related to each
other. That was yesterday's death and is
going to get back into this. But either
way, for now the Mishna is saying
with regards to a kulus, again a kulus
is a bone that has marrow inside it. And
the question is if somebody comes in
contact now with this cool
somebody touches it and Rashi says when
we say we mean if say as well
that's what we're referring to what's
the does he become to does he not become
says the mission depends what type of
tom we're discussing and the mission
discusses four types of tomastosh
that's
neo and as relates to mace and if
Somebody touches this
is going to be as it relates to
if it touches it is going to be if he
touches it even if the neut is so small
it's a rash says it's so small that the
only thing that can get in it is a
strand of it doesn't matter that's
enough for it to be but if it's awesome
in that case you're going to be either
way as you can tell
but the primary topic of the daff now is
going to be today's d that is focusing
on the first of the and that is the is
as it relates to a human corpse. So if
somebody comes in contact with that what
does that mean? he touches it. Rashi
says if he carries it or
is
he's going to be so before we start the
just a little bit of an introduction
we're familiar with the idea of Tomas
that was the
parish that was master
right the of Tomas mace a mace transmits
to but the truth is you don't need an
entire mace in order to have to a kaz
bosom and a mace is mama a reve of Amaze
is mama. An aver of a mace is mama.
Anmra
is mama. A ladle full, a spoonful of
dust of a mace is mama. So you don't
need the entire
right these areas
and scattered throughout.
But but the point is is that you don't
need the entire mace in order to have to
m but certain parts of a mace would be
enough in order to transmit to. That's
number one. Number two is a mace. In
addition to being
has a very specialish, it's also
what does oil mean? It means one of
three things. It means if somebody's mah
on a mace, if somebody would walk over a
mace, say he himself created the oil on
the mace, he now would become even
though he never touched the mace, he
never carried the mace. But by virtue of
the fact that he himself was an oil on
the mace, there's a transmission of
tommo through the oil. If the mace would
be mah on top of him. So you're sitting
down, you're minding your own business,
and now a mace goes flying over you. So
that's Tomas oil because the mace itself
was the oil. The [snorts] most common
example of Tomas oil is if two a person
is in a room and there's a mace in the
same room. So if a person is under the
same oil as the mace, that would be a
third way for there to be too much oil.
We're going to see in today's D that
there's lumpish differences between the
respective types of tomas oil. Not all
to oils were created equally. They're
not all the same. But there's three ways
that a mace could transmit to through
oil. If the person is the oil on the
mace, if the mace is the oil on the
person or if the person and the maze are
both underneath the same oil. Number
three, not all
mace or not all parts of a maze have the
ability to be metab. So for example, a
kazhas boser as it relates to today's
stuff has the ability to be it could
also be
an a of a mace is
it could also be but an for example
that says that an the size of a that's
very small a barley that's enough to
transmit to but that's only not
necessarily.
So again you don't need the entire maze
in order to have to there's a concept of
a m already can transmit to m you have
the re of the maze you have the you have
the
you have the draft so there's different
parts of a maze that have the ability to
transmit to when you talk about maze
there's ma there's masa in addition to
that there's also but not all parts of a
maze that have an ability to transmit to
have an ability to be a complete maze
for sure even a kazay is boss in a even
but for example in
that's
that does not have the ability to
stating that begins its discussion of
with the Mishna said if you have this
bone that has marrow inside it what's
the
if somebody touches it [clears throat]
is going to be it sounds like you're
only if you come in contact with the
kulas. What if you were under the same
roof as the kulus? What if you were mah
on the kulas? What if the kulus was mah
over you? It sounds like in that case
you're not going to be because if in
that case all the
mission should say not only
is he going to be but even if there was
there was an oil relationship between
you and the coolest that should be
enough for there to be
it sounds like from the only way to
become from the is through not through
are we talking about where this meat on
the bone literally There's a kazer on
the coolest.
Then certainly there should be why
because of the buser that's on the
coolest. So what do you have to say?
Okay, that's easy. The Mish is talking
about
where there was no
continues and says that if it the marrow
that's inside the bone which is
and throughout view that marrow you have
it in carbon in a whole bunch of
different places in as if that amounts
to then there should be oil why because
the of that's inside the kulus makes up
a kazayas boser. And even though you'll
tell me but you never came in contact
with the kazayas boser cuz even if
you're under the same oil with that bone
but the is absorbed inside the bone. So
being that the is in the bone. So how
does the in the bone have an ability to
be? The answer is 101
because is that if you have that's
inside something else if there's no if
there's no gap of a between the and the
thing that the is inside is the is able
to be
and it's able to go literally up to the
so in this case there's no between the
marrow inside the bone and the and the
physical bone as a result this
is it's through the bone and has ability
to be if that's the case. So why is it
not like okay again not so sure you'll
tell me it's talking about there was no
there's no on the bone there's also no
in the continues
if the t of our is if the is of the
opinion that the mitas is that the
marrow inside the bone has an ability to
make the bosar on the bone regenerate.
One of the functions of bone marrow is
that it allows the muscle and the tissue
and the meat of the bone to regenerate.
So Frank the gammoro that the assumption
is that that's what bone marrow does and
presumably that's what the mishna should
hold. If that's the case
that we should view the coolest not as
an but rather as an
it should be
and this is based on the fact that we
mentioned in the that an is oil but an
is not of oil. What's the difference
between an a and an one is a limb the
other one is a bone. So for our purposes
as it relates to the sugis of a hullis
the difference is that an aer is a bone
or could be a bone that has baser on it.
An ets is just a a trick in a that
doesn't have any baser on it. stating
that the gumar understands in the kash
and rashi explains this at great length
argues with rash a little bit and rash
on the garra that any bone that has the
doesn't have any baser on it now but has
the ability for there to be baser or
could have would have should have had
the ability for it to have baser that
would be enough to look at it right now
as being an this that has being that the
has the ability to create the basa to
regenerate now right now the is already
detached from the from the animal. So
now nothing's going to regenerate and
but had it been attached that's the
could have would a should part it then
it would have regenerated. said that's
enough to look at it maybe right now as
an
why in the only says also what happened
to
three number one what happened to the
buser on the on the he'll tell me
there's no bosser on the what about
you'll tell me there was no kazar
forget about the boser there is no right
there's no kazer you don't have
you can't check off that box but I can
check off a different box is also
Just like a gazer and matab's matab and
why is this not a neighbor? You'll tell
me it's not an a cuz what defines a you
have to have baser there was no baser
it's true you don't have baser but you
have may and says even if you don't have
mayak as long as there was once mak that
should be enough a cul by definition for
sure at one point had mak so the mayak
should be enough to say that being that
when this bone was attached to the it
had the ability to regenerate that's
enough to look at it now as a once it's
an
You have to say
it's not the way it is. And as a result,
this marrow does not have the ability to
regenerate. That's why you don't look at
it as an there's no there's no
it's not an why not because it's not
going to be and as a result if it's not
an and it's not a all it is is an oil
what is a
telling me now in order to understand
the First
and specifically why it is that there's
too much but there's no you have to make
an tell me it's talking about there's no
because again if there was
so is going to bomb away if that's the
case
how do you understand the second
explains the casual with noer so let's
let's talk about noiser is something
that in addition to being in addition to
being
it also falls into the categories of
is also but that's in order to have no
you have to have no
if it's you don't have if you have a
noiser so now there's going to be so
says the if the is talking about where
there's no kazar
not on the bone and not in the bone
Why are we saying that to explain the
first why is only it's not if that's the
case
the second
was
if there's no then there should be
noaser
and another
the third and the fourth cases of the
respectfully what did the say over there
as it relates to
if you have a kis with a hole inside of
it so did is if it was there's not going
to be
why if there's an isma
you don't have a of and the premise of
this question is that that's an of an a
and a
of a human being is
but there's no that an of a or an of a
so the only reason that there should
Tomas
is because of the inside. How much do
you have to have inside? Then you have
to have a kaz
even two
as we saw in the beginning of the d. So
that's part you have to have a kash is
we're talking about that there's no
kazayas. So where's the where the so the
is essentially asking what's going on
over here the to understand the first
the ratio in this case means the first
of the four is mentioned you have to
make an there was no why because if
there's a why is only why is there so
there was no gaz the problem is the
second third and fourth cases of the
only make sense if there was a second
case no it's not there's no the third
and the fourth cases where we're talking
about the coolest being available the
coolest doesn't have an ability to be
mata. Doesn't matter. It could be a
hole. That's that's it doesn't matter
how big it is. It doesn't have an
ability to be mama. It's only the mak
inside. How much you have to have a
kazay. So then the first case is talking
about where there was no kaz. And the
second and the third and the fourth
cases is talking about where there was a
kaz and the gumar gives the perfect
answer. Yeah.
Again the ratio meaning the first case
save for the gaz and the safe is talking
about where not. Now incidentally just
so that it shouldn't get more confusing
than it might already be but when you
say ra and safa so essentially what the
just did now is there's two raers and
saf
is usually straightforward the ra the no
you have four cases so the there's the
ra and the safh from the standpoint and
then there's the ra and the from the
mitsia standpoint from the hakic
standpoint the mishna said that the
kulus is mama whether it's sum
in two cases and it's not when it's
awesome in two cases
and
so the ratio then would be
and then you have the two cases where
the is only if there's a
so that would be the safest you have the
safer from the
of whether or not this is when it's
awesome the ratio is
and the is and now you have the and the
from the mitz standpoint the first case
of the mish talking about where there
was no kaz the second and the third and
the fourth case of the mish talking
about where there was a so you have the
ratio which is the it's the which is
all talking about where there is a when
you talk about the so you have to ask a
follow-up question, right? Oh, do you
mean the ration the safer from the
perspective or do you mean the ration
the safer from the mat's perspective?
From the from the perspective, the ratio
is
the
from the perspective the ratio
is
either way says the but now that we said
that the ratio again is talking about
and they say
if that's the case
so we we're trying to make sense of And
the is like we knew this.
What do you mean? What's the rash place?
The first case of the Mishna essentially
is telling me that this is
says there's no in this there's no
what's the has an ability. Everybody
knows
is
now if you're telling me it's also okay
then maybe it sounds like there's some
going on over here. But you're telling
me all you have is aim. You don't have
any buster anyways. So what exactly is
the says the
I'll explain to you the of all four
cases right the
no there is no you know the kdish is not
that it's
the is that it's not boil why would you
think it's not boil you don't have a
kazaya the terance is you would have
thought that being that this is a kus
this is a bone that has marrow or at the
very least had marrow that's enough to
give the bonus status of a because being
that it's malar
or could have been
that's enough to look at it as a
neighbor is
like
that
that's the
what's the second case the fact that
there's something called we know there's
something called laughing says no that's
for sure what's
true that we know that nicer is mat. But
when you think of nicer, what do you
think of when you visualize nicer
stickles, you think of a rib steak,
right? That's what you think of. You're
thinking of a piece of meat. That's what
comes to mind. You never touched a piece
of meat over here. You touched the bone.
We made it that there was a inside the
bone, but it's in the bone.
Touching the bone makes you tummy.
That's a
like in last week's stuff. There's a
concept of
which is considered and says that's
certainly worthy of a that's a in fact
but the point is that's what about the
latter cases of the
from the perspect oh say from the
perspective
and
says
The
as it relates to and the is that you
have to have a ne but if you don't have
a ne in that case you're not going to be
now why is that aes if there's no nek of
course you're not you're not because you
didn't touch it
no so how do you become by you have to
touch the buser the buser is the that's
inside the bone you have no way of
touching it so why is it aish you're not
the answer is very simple. The answer is
the kesh is not that there's no tomas.
The kesh is that there's no tomas masa.
Why is there no tomas masa? You carry
it. What's what's the difference if you
have to in a bag and you would carry it
or if there's inside a bone and I carry
the bone to why not the is
the only time you have too much. But is
that a it was a before we don't
yesterday's but in light of that. Why is
that a kadesh? The ter is you know what
the kadesh is? It's because in
yesterday's d what happened was you had
two halfim of that were attached to the
reason there was no maga in that case is
because for they have to be one because
of so they have to be one in order to be
there was a there was a there was no
of as related to ma that's why there was
no mas either in our there is a of ma
you have that's all together the problem
is it's inside a bone that's
crack the bone open. Break the bone.
There's no
just break the bone and take out the the
touch the so why is that
the fact that is this second I can't get
to it that's enough for it to be like
either way that's the beer in this thus
you have aesh either way so what the
essentially did was is to make sense of
the the in each one of the four cases
respectively is to say very simply that
the ratio as in the First of the is
talking about where it was like the
three latter case in the Mishna was
talking about where there was
additionally what came out from the
again the emphasis of today's d is on
the first case of the we'll get to the
rest of the but today the emphasis is
the first case of the and that is is
that why is it only
why is it not
that there is because there was no kazel
And there was no kaz of
and the kumis is not viewed as an a
because the is that the is
so it's not
there's no all there is is an
is this is true but it's only
it's not had a problem with what we just
said only one part of
says that bone marrow one of its
functions are it allows the the bone and
the body to regenerate. So as a result
it's says I look at a koulus as an a. I
don't look at it if you understand the
definition of an versus there's no
question that a is considered an a. If
that's the case, if it's
then why
isn't it? Forget about the let it be.
It's talking about where you scraped off
part of the marrow. You ruined the bone
and you ruined its marrow's ability to
be able to do what it has to do. Meaning
in its natural state would be but this
is not a natural kulus anymore. You
chapped it with it already and as a
result that's going to be a problem.
If you had a koolis and you shaved it
along its length, it's still tummy
meaning it's still treated as an a
because it its marrow doesn't lose its
functionality.
If however you would shave it along its
width around the circumference of it in
that case it would bear because at that
point it's not an anymore. A good way to
remember
is that a tree if somebody would play
with a tree around its then that would
affect the tree's ability to produce. If
you do it wouldn't affect its ability to
produce. The bottom line is that's what
said. So Abay agrees with everything
that the Gmorra said up until this point
with just one tweak. He just said that
you're right. The ratio the first case
of the Mishna is talking about where
there was no Kazayas. The latter three
cases I'm talking about was a gaz as it
relates to the forget about the why
don't we look at the kas as a neighbor
the first is it's not a neighbor the mus
is that the doesn't have an ability to
be thus is not a neighbor says no really
does have an ability where it doesn't
have an ability why not
say had a whole different
wanted the mission to be consistent he
said if the second third and fourth case
in the mission I'm talking about whether
there was a gazhas the first case is
also talking with it was a what's the if
the first case is with a gaz should be
oil and by the way added and he said
even if there wasn't a
said it's still the bone of [snorts] kus
would be viewed as an a because
and I'm not going to make an akinta like
where right now the kulus doesn't have
an ability to no no it does that's the
case it's a how do You understand the
why does the say
as well says the it is
all the
did say it was no it didn't the said
you know what means this is going to
take us already into Columbus but before
this just asks
if
then how do you understand In the latter
case
only if there's a nev if there's no
what's the because if there's no ne all
you have is an ex is not
if there is a nev then you have the bos
that's inside the kaz that's inside now
already you can touch it you can stick a
here inside it and touch it so if it's
it so now you're good I
as well so at that point already you're
going to be but the kasha is that the
bone marrow of the and the should make
that coolest of the also into an oh once
it's an a of mama is not mama but is
that if this is then why
so you have to say it was and really is
but in ourish it didn't have the ability
to was already dried out. I mean that it
was dried out. It was rattling. That's
the literal of at this point. It didn't
have the ability. That's the punch line
though is doesn't have the ability to
regenerate
as it relates to maze. It doesn't matter
that it doesn't have the ability to
regenerate because by maze I don't need
the I don't need the inside in order to
have to because the could be but as it
relates to even
what is that doesn't the have an ability
to make the regenerate dust which once
it's at that point it doesn't have an
ability to do it but the bottom line is
there's one lumpish piece that said in
his video of this Mishna and is going to
digress now well into tomorrow's
discussing this and that is said that
really when the Mishna says
you know what means it means if you
touched it means that if you carried it
also means if you were in a
relationship with it what's the point
the point is because
right it's one and the same oil is na
oil. If somebody is takas and oil
together with a mace, it's as if he
touched the mace. That sounds like aesh
because at first glance you would think
and so for this already we need a source
but at the same time we need a source
for such a and that's what the is going
to do. Now
I have a source.
If somebody was touching a half a Zasmak
of
and he himself was serving as an oil on
top of another half his so in his right
hand he was holding a half his of and
and then he was being mahel at the same
time over another half. So he's touching
a half his and he's being mal on a half
his eyes
or he was holding half his eyes and
there was half his that was being mal is
going to be Tommy. Why women s says
[laughter]
if when somebody is
on a mace it's as if he's touching it so
that it comes out that maga and oil are
really one of the same because the of
oil is it's a type of mag
that's why it's
going to tell me that
we learn to
tell that
But it's two is going to be taught says
you have to say oh you're telling me
that and oil is the same thing. How you
going to learn the says
what
this is like case what happened if
somebody was touching a half a and he
was under an oil together with another
half as again a third example of how you
have someone touching a half a tumas oil
with another half his so what's over
there he's going to be
if it's one shem
I then why are you going to be to her?
Now really what the this that's the same
for the same Mishna. So what the said
was as follows. What happens if
somebody's touching a half of a mace and
he's in oil with another half as says
the Mishna? If you summarize it, it
depends what type of oil. We said in the
there's three types of tomas oil. How do
you have to oil? You're mah on the mace.
The mace is mah on you. You're under the
same oil as the mace. In the first two
cases, if you're m on the mace, the ace
the mace is mild on you and you're
touching, that's mistak. If you're
touching and you're under the same oil
with the other half, then it's not going
to be aloponent. What it seems like is
that from the r
and are the same
from the sounds like it's not. So the
initially brought this as a which part
of the ratio. But then the said
immediately, you're bringing a riot from
the ratio. You have a kasha from the
which in other words means we have to
understand the mishna a little bit
better because otherwise the seems to be
itself that's the kasha
how do you understand the razer said and
this parrot really requires a lot of
beer that we don't have the time for
it's talking about the ratio that is
it's talking about where you didn't have
a regular
So you were being mah on top of the mace
but at the same time it wasn't a regular
where the tum was in a very compacted
area. It was so small that the area that
this was in was less than one cubic
that if tum is in an area of less than a
cubic it doesn't have the ability to
create a real tumas soil. So in that
case when you're mah on top of tuma
that's in that type of area. So it's not
considered to because that type of tuma
doesn't have the ability to transmit via
what then will the toma be? It's going
to be neg that's not going to be and
that's goof why it's you're right maybe
the town of the Mishna holds that oil
and do not have the ability to mitarif
but in the ratio it's talking about with
a tum was in this mat thus it's not oil
what it is is maga it's some convoluted
form of a maga and as a result it has an
ability to be mitar but ordinarily it
does not have the ability to be mitar
says the gamar if That's the case.
So then who is the that's meaning
when the Mishna says
means even oil because oil is sometimes
referred to as who's the we thought it's
this but then we can't make sense of the
so must be the the mean something else
but as it relates to who's the says it's
going to
says Molly tarv if you have a Rashi says
a tarv is a caf so a spoonful or a ladle
full of of dust of a maze
oil. So if you have
it's
again think of the crerematorium leeno
the dust of a mace. So what are we
discussing here?
oil.
I understand says the how it's possible
to become
through this.
You're carrying the you're under the
same roof as the you on top of it. It's
on top of you. So it's not so hard to
figure out how this works. But the cash
is
the shear is every little speck of dust.
How do you touch every speck of dust?
It's not possible. How do you touch
every single speck? It's not It's not
possible. So, if it's not possible, how
do you have
you know must have meant when he said,
"What do you mean when he said?" He
meant oil. He meant oil. So, you see
that
who used the word
that's this part is very simple. Then
when the says [laughter]
maybe what do you see means
said if somebody touches
becomes no way and you how do you touch
every spectrum
says how does that you can make that
work but there's no way that's what
meant you know why
is
what does ma mean? You're telling me it
means oil means what does mean? It also
means oil. So didn't have to say oil
twice
said to answer this question.
You're right meant
when he said and he meant oil when he
said it's the same thing. He's not being
redundant. Two types of oils. There's an
oil where the oil is within one of the
and then there's an oil where it's of a
when it's within a it's called when it's
not called different
even if it's
still going to be considered
oil then oil
this is a and that it says ra there's
different types of oils as we saw this
tumas oil where you're m on the to this
tumas oil where the tum is m on you in
this tomas oil where you're both under
the same to when you're on the toma or
the tom's on you that type of tomas oil
magar that's called a mag oil when
you're under the same oil as the toma
that's what Robert refers to as ham
that's a different type of oil that type
of tomas oil is where meant when he said
oil the bottom line is you have a from
you have a from that the word mag could
sometimes mean oil thus that would the
tour of the Mishna says
what was the
why only why not so we had two of the
two the first
and they said that it's talking about
we're for some reason it's not noas
why not there was no of meat on the bone
there was no kazayas of in the bone The
either never has the ability to
regenerate or in this case where it
doesn't have the ability to regenerate.
It's not an a either there's no there's
no all there is is an very nice is a is
an but is not so if it's not that's why
you don't have to that was the first one
second that the Mishna when it says it
doesn't just mean because when you use
the word in the context of means it
means and it also means it also means
where do you find that can mean it's
that
What does maga mean? It doesn't mean
literally magma because you can't touch
every piece of what it must mean is it
must mean oil. I didn't anyways mention
said one terret Rab said another terret
for further analysis you can take a look
at Rashi you don't have to go that far
but Rashi of art says that really at the
end of the day is going to have to learn
like not like but the will stop