Bechoros 9

Today's is and we are about 20 lines from the top of so we're in the middle of not so much a suga but a story a story that was a digression from a digression from a digression. The specific context was the Gamarra had a discussion with regards to different animals. How long is the term of their pregnancy specifically as it relates to a snake kazal said the yeur is 7 years. And on that note the garra told the story. The Gumarra said that Rab Yeshua who was very much acquainted with the queser of Rami [snorts] was once discussing this very question with the queser and he told him that the Tammudic tradition is that a snake is pregnant for seven years and the case told it can't be because the Kakatuna the very wise people of Athens Greece they claim that it's only 3 years and in fact They did an experiment to prove that that's the way it is. Yeshua told them, "I don't care what the wise people in Athens say and as it relates to their experiment, it must have been a flawed experiment because I'm telling you the way it is. A snake is pregnant for seven years and it's only then that the snake is going to give birth to its offspring." But the queser told Rab Yeshua that you know it's very nice that you think that the are wrong but you understand that consider the smartest and the wisest people in the world there's no way that you can be saying better than that what they're saying. So told him that I'm very well aware of their reputation but at the same time us Jews and specifically myself are smarter than the I'm not impressed with the tradition they have. I'm not impressed with the experiment that they made. I'm telling you the way it is and that is the Eur of a snake is seven years. So the case of Remy was very intrigued specifically about the idea that Rab Yeshua might even be smarter than the Kakuna. So he told him that you know what if you're really smarter than them I want you to prove it. And the way you're going to prove it is I want you to go to Greece. I want you to debate them and I want you to win the debate and as a result of you defeating them force them that's going to be the terms of the deal to come stand in front of me. And if you could do that, I will know that you in fact are the wisest man in the world. You're smarter than even the Rab Yeshua told him deal on. But let me tell you what I'm going to need. I'm going to need a super yacht. It has to have 60 rooms. Each one of these rooms has to be so big that there have to be 60 chairs in there. You give me that. I'm going to travel to Greece with my uh fancy means of transportation. I'm going to debate the I'm going to win. I'm going to bring them in front of you and then you yourself are going to see that I was right. Not only about the fact that a snake is pregnant for seven years and not the three years that they claim it is, but in general and I am wiser than even these people. Anyway, Rishua got the yacht that he was looking for. He sets sail for Athens, Greece. He comes to Athens and as the told the first challenge Rab Yeshua had was to figure out where these even were. With his wisdom he was able to find their location. Once he found their location he realized that the area was heavily guarded. Again using hisma he was able to get all the security guards taken out. He smuggles himself into the auditorium where it is they are. He has an audience in front of them. They look at him, he looks at them. Who are you? How did you get in? And he introduces himself by saying, "I'm one of the wise people of uh the Jews and I'm here to debate you." Interesting proposition. They agree on terms and that is in the event that the are going to be successful in this debate. Meaning Rabbi Yeshua is going to lose, Rabbi Yeshua is fear. They could do to Rabu whatever it is they may please to do with him. If however Yeshua is going to be right, well then the terms are these all 60 of them are going to have to come into the super yacht of Rabbi Yeshua. Each one's going to go in his own room and they're just going to make and by doing that they will have fulfilled their end of the deal. Either way we ended with a little bit of a cliffhanger. We're literally up to the point where Yeshua is now going up one again 60 with these. They shake hands and now let the games begin says the Gar. So the Kakatuna are going to be firing away with questions to Rab Yeshua. If Rab Yeshua is able to successfully answer these questions, well that means he won. They're going to have to have a sandwich in this big uh boat. If however he's going to be stumped and he's not going to be able to cleverly answer the questions, well that's going to mean that they won and they're going to be able to do with Yeshua ostensibly whatever it is that they want to do. So here's the first question. They told him there was a man that was looking to find a wife. He was looking for a and there was a specific specific girl from a specific family that he was very interested in marrying. The family refused to allow their daughter to marry this man. And the reason was is because they felt that this man was not worthy of intermaring with their very very prestigious family. What could possibly be the rationale for this person after realizing that he got shut out from this particular look? He says, "You know something, I'm going to look for something even better?" I mean, at first glance, it would seem to be silly. [snorts] This person should uh get the memo and he should realize that he should be looking for something less, not for something more. Yet in the story of the person actually decided to swing even higher and they asked Rab Yeshua, what could possibly be the rationale? So Rab Yeshua said, "Let me demonstrate." He took a a nail and he tried banging it into the lower part of the wall and it couldn't go in. Then he moved a little higher up on the wall and then it was able to to fit. Now the reason is because the bottom of the wall Yeshua knew was hard stone and there was no way for him to get the nail in. But as you moved higher, maybe it was wood, there was areas where you were able to knock a nail in. And as a result, he was able to fit. So Yeshua told the that you see that sometimes something doesn't fit in an area that is lower quote unquote, but it will fit if you go a little bit higher. And the reason is because whether something is a match is not necessarily dependent on how low or how high you are, but rather it's dependent on whether it fits or whether it doesn't fit. And he said in that vein at the end of the day is our and it's based on you know two people having to be of each other and it could be this was just not appropriate for him and as a result it was rejected because it was understood that there was no way that this was going to work. So the universe ores who made it not work but it could be somebody of even greater yeas of more prestigious family maybe over there it would be mas in that situation it would work the bottom line is Yeshua told him that I'm not so impressed with your story I think it's very logical just because a person is rejected doesn't necessarily mean that that's an indication of who this person is and he has to say to himself I they said no to me as a result. I'm going to have to look for something less. To the contrary, be a real man. Look for something even more. Either way, they asked him another question. They told him, "God rid of the uh person went and he had loaned money to somebody and and this person that he loaned money to was uh not willing to to pay him back and he ended up suing him in court. Then he had to hire lawyers and legal fees and penalties and the collection agencies and until finally he was tariff. He was able to get his collection. usually means he had to go after the learning. We're not going to get into the first, but it sounds like this person literally had to go collect from the of this person that he had loaned money to. Okay. What in the world would possibly possess this person for him to say, "You know something? Let me go ahead and uh lend money to somebody else. If you issue a loan and it goes so poorly, would you ever go and think to lend money to somebody else, you might say to yourself, you know something, maybe this is not a gash for me. Let me find another way to earn a barnosa. This person in the story of the after he loaned money and it went so bad, he decided to go and he decided to borrow money from other people. And asked him what could possibly be the thought process of this mala that if his first law went so poorly now he's going to continue to lend Yeshua told him let me explain it to you with there was a person that went to the forest and he was chopping wood he was chopping reads and [snorts] the reason is because he needed to bring it back home. What happened was it was too heavy and it was impossible for him to carry it. You know what he did? He decided to continue to cut and cut and cut until finally somebody came and that person that came was able to help him. Now that told the makes a lot of sense, right? You get that. That's something that you understand. Why does that make a lot of sense? So really it makes a lot of sense for two reasons. Number one, this person is grounded right now. He's stuck in the forest. He has no ability to carry what it is he needs to carry. So inevitably he's going to have to wait for somebody to pass by and hopefully that person is going to be the and he's going to help him go now and bring the stuff back into the ish which is where he needs it. Now what's he supposed to do in the interim? Twiddle his thumbs? No, he might as well hack more wood and the reason is because a person's going to be helping him anyways and once these two people are there, they'll be able to carry all of it. It's like this, he might as well get more out of it. So it makes a lot of sense that that's something that he would do. Truth is a little bit deeper than that. The [snorts] reason a little bit deeper than that is because really if this person needs somebody to help him now, it makes sense for him to have more wood. It makes sense for him to have a bigger ball of gun because the more he has the more visible it's going to be for the bypasser that would be able to go ahead and now see what is there that there's a man that needs need and he's going to be able to go ahead and is going to be able to help him. So it actually makes sense not only because I have nothing better to do with my time, but it actually makes sense because there's a better chance of you salvaging what it is you have by you going ahead and doing it. So Yeshua told the person issued a loan and it went poorly. But he issued a loan because he thought there's money to be made, had to risk, right? You can [snorts] make a good return if you're in the right uh form of lending business. So he thought that that is a a geft for him and this is something that he wants to do. What happened? It went bad. So he's not going to walk away. He's doubling down. Fakar, let me issue more loans because now I'll make profits and those profits that I'm going to make are actually GOING TO MAKE UP FOR all the losses that I had previously had. Either way, Rab Yeshua told him, this is uh this is not such a to me, as a matter of fact, this is something this is something that makes a lot of sense. They continued and they told Yeshua, can you tell me something silly? You want something silly? Here you go. How about who could nicer alita? There was a mule that uh gave birth to a child pisk and on the neck of the child there was a there was a pisk piece of paper and it said my father owes me 100,000 said you want to hear something silly that's uh my silly story. There was a mule that uh mother is a child and that child is walking around with literally wearing it on her sleeve. This child is that says that my father owes me 100,000 shekels. Is it possible for a mule to to have a child? That's the silly thing that I was referring to. Now truth is this is a story that's silly silly. Right? But at the same time this was Rab Yeshua's response. Here was the fourth question. Are you if salt goes bad in my mallay, what do you salt it with? So salt is a preservative. So if you see that your salt is spoiling, right? Back in the day before there was proper refrigeration, everything was always used with salt. So what do you do when salt is going back? So he told him, you know, you use basilis. What you do is you take the shillia, the amniotic sack of the mule, and that's what you use. So they said, Could a could na could a mule have an amniotic sex? By the way, we should have mentioned this by the third child. The reason is a mule can't have children, right? Mules are sterile. They can't have children. And as a result, can have this? So he responded, it's true. Sorry, could salt spoil 100%. Your silly question begets a silly answer. They continued. They said, "Can you please build a a palace for us, a house for us in the middle of the ear?" says the Gmorrahua used one of the shamuses and he used one of the and he suspended himself literally in between the arrow. He told them, "You want me to build a house? I secretly live natina. Can you please bring bricks and mortar? I need a crew of people. Let's go. I'm ready to start." And they're looking at him, you know, they didn't know the shams. They have no way of doing what he just did. So they moved on to the next question. They said, "Where is the midpoint of the world? He picked UP HIS FINGER. POOKED HERE. SO FUNNY YOU ASK. We happen to be at the center of the world." He said, "How do you know?" So he says, "Oh, you're not sure. I seek." He says, "Bring ropes. We'll match it. bring a measuring tape. You'll see you and you're going to see where well they couldn't bring a measuring tape so they couldn't disprove. They told him that we have a a well in the field. Could you please bring the well into the city? Meaning we're trying to move the well into the city. He said, "Yeah, sure. No worries. But let me tell you what I'm going to need. I need a rope, a very, very long rope. And it should be made of bran. And if you make a rope of bread, that's the way you take a bear from the field into the And they rolled their eyes. They said, "Okay, who's got the next question?" They said that, "You know, we have a uh the stone that was used in the mill." And he said, "It broke. Can you please sew it? Don't fix it. Sew it. Right. We want you to to sew it." He said, "Yeah, 100%. But let me tell you what I need thread." Right? You can't sew without thread. and the thread that I need should be made of this stone. So he said [snorts] he says get me a thread from the stone and that's how I'm going to do it. Rashi says that the way weavers weave and the way seers sew is they take from the thread of the thing they're sewing and that's the that they use. He says okay you want me to sew together this Evan? So give me a a string of Evan if you can give me that which they clearly couldn't which is why we're on to the next question. They said, "If I have a uh a field of uh knives, so I have a patch of knives and I want to cut it. I want to be and you know, so I'm ready to harvest it. How exactly do you cut it?" So you use a knife to cut your grain. But if the grain itself is knives, what do I use? So he told you use the horn of a of a uh donkey. This, by the way, is the first line in this entire that has anything to do with the beginning of gets a shout out. He said, he said, "Do dunkeys have horns?" He said, "I mean, seriously, do uh [snorts] knives grow from the ground that we would even be asking such a sha." Here's the next question. 10th question. If you're keeping score, they said Yeshua bring [snorts] they brought to Yeshua, I'm sorry, two eggs. He told him, he says, "Can you tell me which egg came from the white tyranny and which one came from the black tyneas?" So the way he responded was he brought two types of Jesus. Do you know which one came from the milk of a white goat and which one came from the milk of a a black goat? When you answer me this, I'll answer you that. Next question. If you have an so that's one of these little chickens that didn't hatch yet and it dies inside the so the question is how exactly does right every form of life on some level has a is in the beginning of parishious so the question is how does that go out of the b the is very protected it's very guarded so how would the go out so he told me nothing I don't know how to get in got in That's how it gets out. Next question. Can you please show me a kay that's not worth the damage that it would cost in order for you to be able to use it? So sometimes it's if you're going to use a kay. So you're going to use this kali, you're going to get some from it, but it's going to cause you damage. Comes with an invoice, right? Everything comes with an invoice. And the invoice will be more expensive than the value that you're going to get from the actual k. He said, "Show us a kay that's not worth its invoice." So went and he brought a a mat of reads and he he spread it out and he said, "Okay, let's see if we can bring it into the auditorium." But there was no way to get it into the it was too big. He says, "All right, bring me hammers. Let's stop breaking the entire thing so we can get this mat, this uh rug into the auditorium." And they said, "What? Are you kidding me? we're going to knock down this fancy uh hole that we have to be able to bring in this of condoms. So he told him says, "No, you asked me for a this is what it is." Either way, this was the 12th and 12th and the final question that the asked Rab Yeshua. And at this point, it was pretty clear that Rab Yeshua had bested them in that they had. And as a result, a deal is a deal is a deal. They were very honest in that sense. Now, [snorts] what do they have to do? They're going to have to go to Rabishua's what we're calling superyacht. Doesn't sound like such a bad uh inion. And they're going to have to go and they're going to have to eat a little bit. Now, there's 60 of them. Remember, Rabishu prepared 60 rooms. And if you remember, he wanted 60 cheers in each one of the 60 rooms. So, so he went ahead and he brought them each person. When they saw that there was 60 cheers, Omar, so each person said to himself, everyone's going to be here. What was the significance of that? It gave them a certain confidence. Meaning they understood Rab Yeshua is outsmarting them in every step of the way. So in a way like what are we getting ourselves into right now? Might not be the smartest thing in the world. But when each person sat down and he saw there were another 59 cheers and it was pretty obvious it was meant for their compadres. So they're going to be there with their whole team and like this you know what could happen already. So there was a certain confidence they were calm and as a result they didn't put up a fight. They sat there waiting in the meantime Yeshua told the sailor nope we're going so next thing they know they're deep into the Mediterranean Sea shako. Now before left he took a little bit of from Athens and he you know he put it in his renil. This is something that's going to rear itself in a moment. Kimati lee as they were traveling through the sea. So there was a certain uh area that was referred to as the bable. This water would swallow anything that went in it. So scientifically what that is, I'm not sure, but there was some area in the sea that anything that went there got just completely sucked up. It got absorbed. It got swallowed up by the actual ocean. So he goes and he takes muzzle. He takes a lot of this very dangerous water, but he takes a lot of this water. Either way, when they finally came to he took these 60 people and he put them in front of the saw these people and they didn't look very good. [snorts] He tells these are not the people I asked you to bring. In other words, what is doing now is he's fulfilling his deal that he had with the case, right? He's delivering the and he's going to tell them the reason they're here is because I made a bet with them and you're going to see I'm going to beat them which I did and here they are but he doesn't believe that it's them and the reason they believe it's them is because they were they looked and then they looked all the they looked not like the the confident the worldrenowned people that the are knew this he had preempted this he took a little bit of the offer of Athens and he threw it he said let me just sprinkle a will dust on you. Sure. So he goes ahead and and he does that and all of a sudden as soon as they did that mala suddenly they got their confidence back and this is based on a fact that you know the offer being that it's native to their land the smell of it the feel of it all of a sudden it it awakened them. So he gave them like this really really uh strong you know shot of triple espresso and all boom they they perk up. He says, "Ah, you're right. These are the right guys." So the case tells Rab Yeshua, u called the boss, "Vid, yeah, you fulfilled the deal. And by the way, whatever you want to do to them, you could do them." Now, that wasn't Rab Yeshua's deal with, right? That was what was going to happen if was going to lose to the but his deal was you just have to come and uh you know just spend a little bit of time on my boat. But it turns out the deal was actually a fair deal because had Rubishaw lost they would have been able to do to Rubishu whatever they wanted. And it turns out based on you know the case of Remy changing the rules. He's the commissioner so he can make up the rules as we go along. Now he's going to be able to do to them whatever he wants. But either way this is what the case tells Rabishu. Whatever you want to do you can go ahead and do either way said okay. I was hoping you would say that. So he pulls the water that he had taken those babe and he pulls it outra puts it into a very very large ki he tells these uh he said I want you to go ahead and start taking water from there you know fill up little kadm I want you to make these little bottles of water from it. So they take a little bottle and they put it into the water and what happens when they put it into the water the water swallows it up. afterward could swallow a ship. It could swallow the little bit of cat. So, as they were doing this, everything was getting swallowed. And they started getting so frustrated because like they couldn't figure out what's going on over here. So, they they literally they ended up with their shoulders in the water and then the water swallowed themselves. And that was the end of them. And that's also the end of this right here in the so this is a a classic it's on the level of the in the beginning with one of the shavas between those two gumaras again that's a garra we spoke so much about when we learn bas with bites and introductions is that the vilg wrote a pirish on those gimaras and the vagay wrote a pish on on this gimmar as well because as much as this is an entertaining story and makes for a good but at the same time at the same time there's no question this is the writing that there has to be and there has to be pious and there has to be a lot of because otherwise this comes across as a very frivolous [snorts] story that really is is hard to wrap our heads around truth is the goen as we just mentioned wrote a panal obviously as you would expect has an on if you go through his pieces there's there's an you know, just to get a tiny bit of a feel. We're not going to go through this. This is what we call but just to get a tiny bit of a sense as it relates to the first two Shilas anyways, right? Just to get it going and then uh you can go from there. What was the first question? The first question that they posed to Rab Yeshua was that there was a person that tried uh you know corning someone for a shid and he was uh shut out based on the fact that they [snorts] said oh you're not worthy of being mash with our very very of the family and he said okay really and he went and he decided he's going to try to find someone that's even more than her and at first glance it seems to be counterintuitive and Yeshua said I don't think it's so fair I mean look let's take a nail I can't get it to go to the bottom of the but I could get it to go to the top of the kisel and the reason is there's a concept of mas says what's the sh so the goyan said that what the were telling was that you know the Jews believe that they're the chosen nation they say on during right the truth is the truth is I think it's just the opposite and I'll prove it to you. He said, "Why do you think you're the chosen nation? Because Hashem gave you the Tyra, right? That's the whole idea. Because you gave us the Tyra." He said, "But when Hashem decided to give the Tyra, were you the first choice?" No. As a matter of fact, you were the last choice. So from the fact that Hashem went first to the and then he went to you must be you're lower on the totem pole. Literally, pun intended, you must be lower. You must be lower. meaning from the fact that Hashem went first to the only afterwards to you must be your less and you know I know that because think about it think of a mush if somebody tries to do a and he's told it's not for them you're not going to go to someone more go to someone less so the way it looks to us was Hashem went to you know whichever nation that he went to first by the way it's this week's parish is right that's exactly what's going on in parish is so goes and he offers it to when they rejected him and they told the sorry we have a good thing going it's not for us so say you know let me find someone who doesn't have such a good thing going and at some point eventually he said all right the last group of people I have is the Jews and that's why he ended up going to you but being that this is the way it works that's probably what happened over here and to that rebua told him it's not the way it works it's not the way it works it's not the way it works I'll prove to you it's not the way it works and that was the response the second question the go says also from the deepest of the deep and that is the asked him what would be if somebody goes and he lends somebody money and then the loan goes bad would he double down doesn't make any sense right you don't put bad money after uh bad money so it would make more sense to try to find something else to do and Rabish told him just the opposite sometimes a person wants to make himself whole from losses that he has so he doubles down a little bit like this now is he going to make money he's better he's going to recoup the losses that he already had told Yeshua he told him that I don't understand [snorts] you don't make any sense you Jews you know why because destroyed the the first Bikdash and when destroyed the Bikash he did it because the and then after 70 years of exile in Bavl took back and what did the Yidden do in the beginning and by the way this is a going that we've spoken at many many many many times but if you're not learning you're not going to speak out the whole context of So what does Claudius do? You ready? What is CLA do? Last time we spoke this out was in Bokeh on Purim by Rebecc from Goldberg. The bottom line is what did and they instituted and they brought a whole bunch of new after and this what the go says that every single came about in the beginning of and everybody says every it can't be so it must be at least but the go says such a that's the girl that all the came at that point they tell don't make any sense. So again, you couldn't keep you couldn't keep 613 mitzvah. So let me give you 8,000 mitzvah and it makes sense. Why would you do that? And if you couldn't keep what you were obligated to keep, why would you give more? You're doubling down on a bad investment. That's what it sounds like. And Rabishua said it's just the opposite. Yeshua told him he said sometimes you have to do more in order in order to recoup losses or to prevent losses from happening in the future of is a way of protecting and it was during and wanted to take them back. He said, "If I'm just going to take them back, you're going to issue the same loan in the same way you issued the first. You're right. You're going to end up in the same place, but let's learn from our mistakes." And the way learned from what went wrong the first time was now we're going to double down with the abundance because the of the is not so much the it's to protect you from the by the way not for now obviously but the is we always speak out that is not even it's only isra it's a way of of protecting the real issu regardless just two examples of some of the pmius and some of the that's going on and these shas as relates to Rabb Yeshua and his interactions with the case of Remy we're about on a part two that's something that is we're going to get to at the end of the do but before we do that we have an entire I kid you not an entire over here in to learn and on that note we now return to our regular program and that is the laws of the laws of and really this Misha that we're going to learn is where the laws of the meet the laws of spas. It's actually a very interesting idea because if you think about it a little homework so many sug has a mishno like we're going to learn right now you know when you think of sphus you think of mitsia right there's a few sugis that obviously come to mind but in reality there's so many different [snorts] that have a mishna like the mishna that we're going to learn right now and that is where the laws of meet the laws of and we're going to see Really the rules and regulations that are going to govern the Mishna that we're going to learn right now are the same rules and regulation that govern that governor. It's the same. But just interesting how another place another application in the world of Chevita and in and in the world of of which is literally from this is one of those that is and it's tucked away again some classic ideas. We're going to do what we do and that is if somebody owns a female donkey that hasn't given birth to a child yet. And now this female donkey gave birth masto to twins. So the owner of the has a mitzvah of but you don't have to give two says but rather is another way of saying you take one and you give it to the what's the kadesh the kadesh is you could have thought that if twins were born maybe you have to give two kamash one only one is really the right whenever you have twins one is older than the other and the older one is thear Second one is not thear. There's one. Just like if only one child was born and as a result there's only one. What would be if this gave birth to twins one was a one was an but the punch line is we don't know which one was born first. [snorts] So is the person has to be one and he keeps for himself. Now we're going to spoiler alert the gar is going to explain what this is and it's going to repeat itself now a few times in the m says just to know in this. The reason he has to be is because there's a suffic and if there's a there's a says you have to go ahead and you have to be but of the in contrast of giving it to the in this case you're allowed to keep it for yourself. The reason you're allowed to keep it for yourself is because from the client's perspective he has no way of knowing that you're obligated to give it to him because really you were just mafish mafik. What's the suffic? Maybe the zaka was born first was born first. In that situation, you wouldn't have an obligation to give anything. So what is a coin? It's a suffic. It's for that reason you're not going to be obligated. So as it relates to being that's a sufficer, you have no choice. have to be but as it relates to giving it that's a suffic is going to add to that that it seems pretty clear that that a person uses to be is because if the wasab then the bim is not gaining anything by keeping it he anyways is not allowed to have from it it's again the mission is going to say at the very very end that this says mutah And that says so really by him going ahead now and being allowed to keep it he's actually benefiting from it. So in the event that the co would come and the would be able to prove that the was born for that's considered bring then you're able to keep it but to the extent that he can't prove it there not. So again on the one hand we're saying that you have to treat it like a on the other hand we're saying you don't have to treat it like a is it's a and what we do is we apply the rules and regulations of you have to be the and for that reason you're allowed to keep it another case what would be if somebody had two he has two female donkeys and each one never gave birth to a And now each one gave birth to a now you have to give two because each one is each one's a and as a result you have an obligation to give two says to the what would be if one gave birth to a and the other gave birth to an we don't know which is which or one of gave birth to a zar and the other gave birth to a zar and aa or maybe one gave birth to two and one gave birth to a ka. In other words, you were out in the field, you came home and all of a sudden there's three babies. So you had two pregnant donkeys and now there's three babies, there's two in a cave and you don't know what's what. Is like this. You go and you give one to the cen. Why do you give one to the kayen? Because being that there are two zakers and one neck. So for sure for sure one of them gave birth to a zaka first, right? In all the possibilities, right? It could be one gave birth to two zakers, other gave birth to an one gave birth to two zakers. There's a there's a it could be one gave birth to one zak and the other gave birth to a zer and a ka. Well, in that case, you'd be for sure in one. And by the way, with regards to the other one, if the Z was first, you'd be in two. And if the Nika was first, you'd be one. So, the bottom line is as it relates to giving to the Cen, you would have to go ahead and do what? You would give one to the Cen. In terms of what you need to be mafish, you would have to actually have to be mafish, too. And the reason you would have to be mafish, too, is because it could be the two came from the two respectively. and they were both the first one. And if that's the case, you would have to be mish too. So the mission is just focusing on what you're giving the coin. As it relates to the but as it relates to what you have to be, you actually have to be too. What would be if it was or if it was in the coin in that situation you wouldn't have to give the co anything and the reason maybe the two are the two and in the case same thing maybe the two were born first so as it relates to the co you're not giving everything in terms of what you have to be mafish so let's do the math that there's only one so there's only one suffic but that might have been the first of one of these two therefore you'd have to be mafish one keep it for yourself in the second case which gave us the two and as a result in that situation you would have to be but as it relates to the co that's what the is focusing on the co is not getting anything [snorts] next case if somebody has two one of them one of them already has a and the other one is like the other one not Now they each gave birth to that's easy. You go ahead. You give one to the one that was not the one that was two. There's no what would be if they gave birth to a so you have to be one. Why? Because maybe the is the one that gave birth to the zak now and as a result it's you're allowed to keep it either way. again. So there's a whole bunch of different cases, but we're plugging in the you have to be and as a result you'd be able to keep it for yourself and notice all the different permutations and cases that Mishna threw out there. Moving along, what's uh referring to? says if you ever needed a how do you know that is with I think if we were asked this question at this point we would know the answer and that is the answer that the Mishna gives it says okay now means could be either sheep or it could be goats right either one is considered doesn't say anything about it could be either one of doesn't say anything about age it's not a Or it could be atomic or it could be as well. You allow to use the same set multiple times. That's something we saw already. So obviously you have to give it to you have to get it back. But right there's no that says that you only get one usage out of it. Not just that they say that you use if you have it you have to put it in it counts towards your dies. This is where the Mishna mentions that we see more about it in the Gumar that the set is which is why in the case of a M and the B's keep it it's meaningful because it has value says the Gar Man who is the Tana of our Mishna okay usually it's right so it sounds like there's something bothering the Gumar here that the Gar throws out there mantana so Rashi says that didn't have a child yet that in every single situation if you have and now gives birth to twin boys you're going to give one play you're not going to give two who is the it's not like because so what does this mean so really it's a mission to come on it's a mission the is discussing the laws of the right first and then so if you take a look at that it's on the bottom of says and the two heads came out at the same second they both belong to the Russian And therefore they both it's impossible for two things to happen at the same second one he keeps for himself and the other one goes to the now our miss doesn't mention a word about this in all the cases that we had and there were many there was no mention of that holds that it's possible for to give birth to two and you're going to have to give two based on it saysano Who must the Mishna be? That didn't mention a word about the scenario of which is featured prominently said it's not like in other words and according to our which is who don't hold basically there's no such mitas of them both being born at the same time. So if two boys were born, one is thear and only one is thear and for that reason it's only going to be negated to give one. I hold this Mishna could be true even because it's funny in a way that this is all of a sudden we decided to tell you about it's that this is true even because if you remember the was it says it says now where does it It's in the so but as it relates to or not. So it's not a but would be true on the even only said if he didn't say it by the on but why would the be different with regards to the no it's true that the is by the but why don't we learn the from the which is an idea that we've seen already many many times in the beginning of the why don't we learn one from the other because it says you have as opposed to here you don't have in other words whether our mission is or whether our mission could be going even according to held that just like was and he held special and it's possible to have two from the same birth saying would be true as well didn't mention a word because our missions likely only mentioned they're not here what's the by the way because the is there right because the is by the that's why it was mentioned by the I learn it teach it to me in both places no The Mishna speaks but the point is the would be true here as well. It just so happens our mishab said no only said over there and that's why it's only mentioned over there and the reason is because although it's from a and usually we could learn one from the other but the bottom line is according to the is going this is the first version of the affformentioned exchange some say that the exchange went as follows And therefore we should have a scenario you're going to be going. It says and therefore the teaches me that it's only true by it's not true by what's the difference between the first and the second. So we always say this sometimes it's more obvious sometimes it's less obvious. This is a situation where it's literally from the least obvious and that is in the first it was that said and is being with the second there's no mention of that's the only difference it's just and again it's the same he's the one that is says who learned that the Mishna is going according to the it's for that reason the mission didn't mention the case right a subtle question the reason the mission didn't mention the case of where they were born at the same time is going and there is no such case there's no such and being that there's no such that's why we didn't mention it but according to our bio that the mission is going which means there is of saying well if that's the case listen so how come the Mishna didn't mention the case now what should the Mishna have said the should have said that even is going to be the only one but at least mention the case and Rashi adds a little Rashi adds that it's a big for sure it's a big that not only one we're it came out one at a time even one we're both were born at the same time even in the same exact case. So according to going there's no such case. So you can't talk to me about a make believe case but according to according to that is also so the case exists. So if the case exists why the mission mention says I'll ask you another first is how didn't at least mention the case that second and the two came out at the same time again the nuance is where it's the name matters. They both go to the so it's uh it's pretty now the is giving it away. The gar is going to say last words of the especially this last is not and as a result this is going to be a checkmate on a but before the garumar does that ask on the and this is actually a very interesting in terms of and [snorts] that is what say in this how could you It says it which is a very fancy way of saying way of saying it says were you telling me it says it by it says right but it's the wrong you're right What changed? What change? What changed is one thing. We went from to make an edit and it's in this. It's mafurish in this that if it says in the that's a problem. But if it says it's not a problem. What's the means? It's means I learned it from somewhere else. open. It's no can go ahead and learn. But you see from it there's a between and choke that up as a a little tidbit that comes out of this as it relates to but the bottom line is we have two kashes on and because of those two says in other words is right or according to the secure the is right and that is the mission is what would emerge is that just like he holds it's possible possible to have they're going to be two as it relates to the same true as it relates to the didn't mention it because there's no such case and it's a fiction and it's for that reason there's no point in mentioning something that can never ever ever happen according to layonas Should we assume that the must hold that aas of the is enough to give us to the tell you need the entire in order to give it's true that so for sure one of them is the why is the other one not and really the background to this kasha is the way gets its kadusha is from being in the of the mother the pet it's and that's where it gets its kadusha the assumption would be that you would need the entire animal to be making contact with the and being to the extent the animal is inside the womb of its mother together with another animal by definition it can't be making full contact with the rah and a mother and if it's not making full contact with the then all you have here is a mix so In every situation, every situation with his twins, I don't understand why there's even one. I don't understand why there's even one because if the comes from the there's an automatic over here, why don't you say that this should be zero? says if you're going to tell me mixades then it's very good but if not not you have to know where else it would be the mixes but for now says the we prove that mix it's not true because although it's true there's a but we know one of the and in this situation it's all right it's bless it's a that's giving birth to an ace then maybe it's a conversation but the p is all one is the mother of the two children and it's for that reason there's not going to be an issue. Rashi asks why did the Gar say little redundant sounds very clear that the cash was only cash going it's not it's clear three times we're talking about sounds like world who saying this would never be why so Rashi says is that being that according to there's a that both of the animals could have kadusha they could both have because it's wouldn't be and the reason is the we look at them as one the was only which for sure only one over here the other one is is is a the other one's a foreigner and as a result it should be a and that answered at the end of the day but in was this is like a it's more than we view them literally as being ones. This is some of the longest that we're not getting into in terms of where the sees the world very differently versus the of the moving along a little bit more says the one of the themes of the Mishna was that in the event that there's a sophic here. So what does the bum do? He's with and then he keeps the for himself. He's because of the suffic we spoke this out many times and in terms of the now we mentioned when we spoke this out originally we're giving away the punch line of the this is that punch line that is that when this goes ahead and he's this he keeps it for himself what's the point in doing it and the reason is to go ahead And the says if that's the case, you see you see that in the event that you would not go and be the it would be meaning the is saying that the reason you're going and you're being is because there's an on the you would not be able to benefit from the kamar if you didn't do this. the sad you know you could benefit from that was the end of the Mishna but the you can't so the reason you have to go ahead and be is to allow you to have it's very nice but I have nothing to do with this it's going to be I'm not going to have any benefit from it so what we do is we tell you what's the value of doing that is like this. You'll have a set that's as opposed to that you have nothing to do with which is says the who then must of the be must be says. So in other words, our Mishna which the is explaining now is going according to the that holds that. That's why it makes sense to go ahead and do the swap to do the it must be because the is going to give two different timing. First time is explain it's that is because would it make sense you have to be you something that's you're not something that's what about a regular a human requires and it's there's no from your baby the first 30 days before you so You see, just because you need that in of itself doesn't necessarily mean that it's says you're right as follows. When it comes, you can be played however you want. It could be with or with right we accept all forms of payment when it comes to but when it comes to the how to do the has to be done with is said that's got to say who said you have to use a set you ready for what's coming who was a son of he once did a pigar and he did it with shi he took different gurus and he cooked it and that's WHAT HE USED. NOW IT HAD the same value but the bottom line is that's what he used. But you see you don't have to use like no that's posit that's if you're going to use fear value. So you're going to take the and you're going to swap it out for something that is of equal value. Of course you could use whatever you want. What we mean what meant when he was explaining that [laughter] a set works to be even if it's not the same value. Right? This is something that requires taking in for a second. When your could be worth $1,000 and you said could be worth $50 and it's going to work. That's in contrast to a regular classic pinion where by the way where else do you have such a thing what the five swam is not the value of the child. So there are times with opinion is and then there are times where it's not here's the point you could be however you want you could do it with like but that would have to be but that you could use and said that what was even if it's and it's not from the fact that this opinion in a very specific way. That's a working backwards that the underlying thing that we're talking about must be very what about right with it has to be something very very specific. It's a nuanced form of py just like the is a nuanced form of we have kesh that if a man goes and he does it with so is the kaducian is going to be this is so let's get this holds that if a man takes and is the kadush is going to be despite the fact that the way you play the is a very specific what it has to done with. So you say even though the was how you're doing the does not make the no value. So you see from his doesn't agree with this how could say because [laughter] the was on a specific type opinion that's right from the fact doesn't hold despite the fact that was had to do the pity says no it's not It's not true. I'll tell you why because the wasps and that is and that's why holds also bound off in the fact that was had to go ahead and do the I if it's why it could be is going to also hold the kaducian but it doesn't make sense. If it's tell me and you could be with what's going on over here says the reasons because a woman knows that if she gets married with the marriage itself is not the pig that's not the which means she knows she's getting something that's really stating that as about she could have from it. She could go to that's something that she could do and therefore there is value in it and that's what the same to explain the would be the beer over here is a woman knows that is but at the same time she knows she can get value not by bringing the by being and taking the of and by the way she's can end up profiting uh tremendously from it. But the bottom line is the bottom line is that being that there is aims where she could have that's where the kaduc is is going to be said that holds that from the fact that the wasb how to do the pig specifically with be that's the underlying thing that we're being that's you see holds that is even though it's a perfect comparable to this idea this is how to go in and be the fact that holds that a man with is not a right that he holds it's by the way that could be true and is true as it relates to as well but the bottom line is said my time with let's get this the reason holds that is or version 3.0 the bottom line is is that that is the What's the same the set that you're using to be is going to be so it doesn't make sense that you something that's and that thing is going to be says what about if someone's but itself is awesome and even though has it somewhere in its head that there's a concept of perish when you point it there is it but it goes as follows way it works is that if you're and then you again that middle thing will be so there is a concept but the last thing the very very last that is going to be and there's there's no such thing is Impossible that if I am something that's the thing that I used to be in it of itself is going to be the bottom line is this is the first beer that the gives in the read was held explained and they both said it and they both said it like in a rhetorical way said I don't know of a situation where you require opinion and the way tweaked it and the pigeon has to be done in a certain way with that underlying thing that you're being paid is really must be the thing is what I don't know of a situation where I'm something that's and the thing that I used to be is going to be if the thing is the set we know is the says it must be the underlying is going to be as well says I'll tell you is really how to learn So one of the ink is we need the end of the says there's an allowed to work with in the field means not to share it will says the argued how to interpret this in the world you're allowed to do work with if you have a non-Jewish partner. So if it's you're not allowed to have then it's going to be okay. the same holds that but you're allowed to be you're allowed to do but you could be the so and is what's the bottom line according There's a what do you see from there? The wool of the must doesn't have a if it doesn't have a it's going to be. So we'll assume that the is also going to be in other words the whole is based on the status quo. You wake up in the morning, it should be the reason because it says does a little bit of work on these I understand why you need to. Why do I need the same thing and both coming to you my non-Jewish partner if the to the fact that there's no by and by's world is based on these it sounds like you need a limar which we just explained is you need a lim for and also father now doesn't have any of these because he uses So how does he know that now he holds it for but that's impossible says you have to tweak this a little bit everybody holds and that's why keep what's going on over here in this with regards to the This is who said where who said on that days a few times. So if that's the case, he holds your therefore I need a to tell me there's no why do I need a because I know this I have a non-Jewish partner but is not like not like the of that heart that is they hold that if you have a non-Jewish partner there's if there's you would have thought that all these apply as well the don't apply for holds like well if that's the case I don't need a because there's no in the first place what do we need a for so what am I left I'm left with the other that I'm going to have is going to be in other words we're sticking with the same and we're just tweaking it a little bit there's two being had over here And everybody agrees that one of these mut is coming to you. The question is what is the second one coming to according to it's coming to your non-Jewish partner and that's allud by your non-Jewish partner. So I would have thought there's an on hold like the as it relates to a non-Jewish partner. Therefore, I don't need a to tell me that there's no so what's the second and the coming to teach me the second coming to bear. is between with regards to with regards to what was the kasha right why did we tweak the price there were two kashes asked on right the way we have the price in front of us is said two questions number one do I need two to teach me the same thing number two should it be just like that doesn't sound tenable the answer is that even though the way the bracelet was presented to us sounded like Rabbi Huda is daring the same thing twice he's not daring the same thing twice that's the terrorist of the first okay so if that's the case there's two mutant to be had why doesn't he use one of them for the reason is he uses one for which the threw in very is the other one is coming to be the other one is coming to and he preferred to be versus being so it's actually what emerges We have these two big rabbi hudas here in the beginning of number one holds that a non Jewish partner does not exempt you from the laws of not like the first mission of the has the two in the first but they actually very much one last I understand why It says this right according to Yehuda one is is based on the as opposed to or vice versa is uh but the is based on the if you the individual own it but if you have a partner case if I have a partner oh a non-Jewish partner in that situation it's going to be exempt. So I understand why there's a dog on the I need the for the okay the other doesn't need the it's based on the word or the word sign that's true but according to the coming and they both have nothing to do with the says and the says which in English means I hear and we are going to stop here. But as it relates to raid, as promised, going back to the story of Reb Yeshua or based on the way the raid bite was named, Rab Yeshua thelan part two. So we mention that this here even though it's a whole world onto itself certainly in the cifod but really it's a a sif kan it's a pratt in an idea that repeats itself throughout the life and times of the great rabbish. Sishu we know was one of the great Tanam in the conversation of the greatest Tanam of all time but at the same time it's clear that Rab Yeshua was also very much involved in of Israel specifically in the presence of the government and even the Queser of Remy. We mentioned the where [snorts] the tells Yeshua that the say that was compared to a lion. A lion I have guys gladiators that publicly can go ahead and they can fight a lion and gave him a response. We mentioned where the told I want to prepare a meal for tell me exactly how to go about it. We mentioned the tinus who the daughter of the quesa was mocking Rab Yeshua for the fact that he was very not handsome. We mentioned Shabas where Rab the Caser asks Rab Yeshua what's the special spice that the Balabustas put in their Shabas food some reason the food tastes so good we mention [snorts] was taken into captivity and he went and he used his protei to go ahead and save him. Who was this person? He grew up to beat the the great we mentioned but the gar says it was once a time where needed a Yeshua and they needed somebody to go to a certain match and was the one that used his proteia and he was able to go in there. We mentioned the gracious par where himself Hrien the great is talking to and he asks him who create the world. We mention Rabb where Hrien asks how does going to come? He introduces him to the L. We mentioned bracious Rabbi Pardaled where the Gmorra says was able to use his proteia to the level where Hrien actually signed off on allowing the Jews to rebuild the base of Mikdash. They even started raising money for it and then obviously things went arry. We mentioned in where Yeshua once had a debate with an Apicurus in the presence of the and they were talking and Rabbishua knew what the Apicuris was saying but the Apicuris didn't know what Rab Yeshua was saying and then finally we mention where the Gar says M R Yeshua and Rab Yeshua died we lost that great advocate we lost that we had once had just mentioned a few kazals 15 to be exact where you find this idea of Rab Yeshua engaging in this level of there are many many many many more but just to get a little bit of a we concluded the first rabb with a from in giml of where he says that to appreciate what exactly what was doing you have to put yourself back in the times of where the yidden were dealing ling terribly with people that were being mal. And he says that issue was such a big issue that theor says in that and he quoted of where says that can imagine what was going on at that time. He said the biggest that was facing the Jews was there were people being mal in the government and it was causing terrible sorrows for Israel. And he says the three times a day and his BIGGEST NEED WAS NOT BEING REPRESENTED in and it was such a omission that they decided of that time we're going to add we're going to be to what instituted and that is we're going to take it from being to being 19 but it's in that world that Rab Yeshua is operating and he's advocating on behalf of the Jewish people. So just to follow a little bit more on that theme and that is we all know the Mishna it's one of the most famous Mishnay of all time it's peric says had five now had more than five but he had five prized hinus ben He used to talk about each one of these five and he would say with regards to each one said and he's the but as it relates to Our hero would say about him was what? Now if you ask a bak that learned what does it mean he's going to tell you I know the story whenish was born his mother used to take him to bis [snorts] his mother wanted that he should hear the coil of because she hoped that by him being surrounded by the sounds of he would grow up and vo to be a grace and when he did people would say the credit comes to this little boy's mother because his mother is the one that made him happen the to this is in the first mak and all the on stating that if you take a look at the on the words the reason people would say with regards to Yeshua is because he knew so much learning he was also an advisor and he was very close to the king and because of the influence that he had by the case of Roy it's for that reasons that guy said he's an ash means that he wasn't just great in learning has a photographic memory he's aim that's like you know maybe the highest of according to one garrison but as it relates to R Yeshua he was multiaceted he had another dimension mention to him and that is he was also a and he was A AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT HE GETS THIS HE'S known as theel in his pish on this Mishna also known as he referred to him as a boy what did he mean says He was he was very by his brothers and his and he was always speaking peace to the people that he knew. It's for that reason every person that saw him would say came not just when a person was very very big in learning. The idea of was that he was he was he said you know what he WAS SAYING NOT THAT I HOLD BUT WHOEVER SEES HIM SAYS [laughter] AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO that person is every single yid can relate to on some level and appreciate what he's doing and he would say about him I saw in his perished like were both from the Yeshua ben he's the he's the second arm of says the what did say about him he said and the beer is because said when a person's And the person when he does, he interacts with people, he does it. What do the people say about him? Says what is saying? Not surprising. But what's this? This is this is so fast. It says the it says what it means is what it means is not just you should love but you should cause other people to love you should be you should show deference to the and when you deal with people you should deal what do people say about someone like that ashray When a person learns to he's also this says is what means when HE REFERS YESHUA AND YESHUA AS AN BECAUSE THAT was Yeshua wasn't only learning. He had a WHOLE ANOTHER DIMENSION. JUST MENTIONED 15 examples and it's literally a a drop in the bucket of what you could find if you know how to look for these Yeshua members and it's because Yeshua had another element and that other element is what merited HIM AND you want to know because who's the person that it's when a person is But on top of that, he's I think it's posit that the had a tiny bit of a different gear from the gar that we have. I mean the gor as we have it as a but the is even better because if you take a look at the rush the rush when he brings the gmorra he says of asho praised is the mother that raised this child. If you look at on the side of the is that when a person is not only learning but he's also that's when it's an that's why it's an in the words of the that's why it's an in the words is an appellation that a person is when a person when a person is not only learning he's not only But he's also and that was you see this you see this you learn this you don't fully appreciate it but it's that this is the truth is if you look in the again these are very very famous I told this I want you to go out and I want you to each tell me what's the best that a person should try to cleave to. And they all came back and they reported said came back. He said and the he said a le that if you want it badly enough you can creep back from wherever it is that uh wherever it is that you are. Yeshua said what's if you have a good friend right the value of a good friend says he was always being mate of the people were always praising him and they would say [laughter] Yeshua was everybody's best friend. That's why Rab Yeshua came back and he said and that's why everyone would say the truth is the is rooted in says that when Yeshua said he said I saw they all said that he said go find A GOOD FRIEND SAYS I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT the Mishna means you know Rab Yeshua meant when he said what he meant to say was be a good friend Rab Yeshua preached be a good friend and Yeshua was and he was he was everybody's best friend and because he was everybody's best friend he was by everybody and that's why Yeshua goes in as this is the it's the same he's being in one long narrative but again Yeshua is because Yeshua in addition to being the great Rabbi Yeshua Rab Yeshua is also and it's for that REASON HE GETS WHAT THE says a person like that IS that says who was to that was to that again this this is like so posh but we have to understand that you know you go through and you see different themes and different trends and different tan and then you go back and you you start relearning everything and everything has a whole different punish being an it's all based on this of being by the popularity of Rab Yeshua was through the roof it's pure by the way we're not going to go into this now that this gives a lot of color into which is also the end of the third parash which is also an idea that's coming up later three places in Shas Rabu gets involved with in some sort of controversy one of them is coming up in a couple of weeks But for someone to go against Rabbi Yeshua was not so smart from a public relations perspective because Yeshua has 100% popularity. That's the of that's the of and it comes from this selflessly putting himself out there on behalf of but I just want to end with one final we just mentioned from the and from the fire and it's this whole of and that's not find the good friend. Be a good friend. Right? We spoke about this once. You want to see Gileo be Elio. Then you'll see him when you look in the mirror. But the point is not find the not find the but that's a beautiful that are learning. But that's not the well-known. The [snorts] well-known is the that we mentioned earlier the first it's because of the nephesh of Yeshua's motherish's mother would take him literally in his uh crib in his cradle and put him in themed and he would hear the cult and somehow through osmosis the cult it permeated his nama and vaccates to be the great great Rabbi Yeshua and everyone understood that the mother played such a role in it and therefore when they would Rabbi Yeshua they would say he had a mother that put herself out there for him and that's why Rabbi Yeshua vlates to be the great Rabbiu and then it struck me and that is who's Rishu is shasu is shas rebelaru they always come together rightua could be in the world of tanoms this is like the first realist first [snorts] generation posturban Tan and they're arguing throughout the biggest in between and even when you have the is usually and over there would be rebel right the rebel isuh is rebel and they come together so often yet when you know the rest of the story the backgrounds of rebel and rabbu cannot have possibly been differentu is a child prodigy had a mother that put herself out THERE FOR THE MOMENT HE WAS BORN BEFORE HE COULD SAY THE words where his father has to teach him before that age already already at that point himself in the hearing from the and the kaduca was permeating his soul but what's the story of rebel so that story we know in this sh that's the story the beginning of pir Rebel peric where rebel was 28 years old and he didn't know he [laughter] didn't know nothing he didn't know how to bench he didn't know how to den and not just that even when it came to his work he was a he didn't have a family he didn't have anything to the point that pirza says that when rebel was crying and he told his father I want to learn tyra's father you're going to learn tyra you're 28 years old and you're a buckets you're a botland you don't know anything get married have a FAMILY MAYBE YOU'LL BE Z TO A CHILD THAT WILL learn tyra but you don't stand a chance you can't learn tyra and then when decided because of his gilo that he's going to zak yeshiva he's going to LEARN TYRA AND WORD CAME BACK TO HIS FATHER HE SAID you know where your son is he went to learn so what did he do he said I'm going to go I'm going to tell I guess who this boy is and I'm making a I'm a big he's not going to be able to have any for my I'm literally cutting him off. I'm putting him out of the will. He's not in the trust anymore. I am completely removing him. And yet, despite those challenges, despite the late start that he got in life, despite the fact that doesn't sound like he had loving parents that were cheering him on, and you got this, Elazar, you'll see something great's going to come of you. He voxtos to be the great Rebel. You know, to us, Rebel and Reb Yeshua are six of one, half a dozen of another. But the truth is their stories cannot have been more different. The story of Rabb Yeshua is a story of ash, a story of loving doing parents that literally from the second that Rabishu was born. He was a kadesh mameish, pun intended, where he was to because of that being where he vac to become the great Rab Yeshua whereas Rebaza had to go and he had to fight the odds. But at the end of the day Yeshua and Rebaza, they both ended up on the top of the mountain. They both ended up at the very very top. And I think I think the is that really really really it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what our upbringing is. If we're to have an then it's not everyone to have an and he can feel sometimes that I'm behind the eightball because I'm the proverbial 28 years old person who doesn't know who doesn't have a parosa who doesn't have a family and there's nothing going for me and what's ever going to become and really for that reb to be rebel I once worked for he said this at a shabasud He said of a similar he said look at the others like he said au had a father had a father had a father they were both of us they were all of us one of our others came from a and the other one or two of ours they came already from office it doesn't matter it doesn't matter you can become obvious if you're you come from a and you can become obvious if you come from I heard this It doesn't matter it and that's the that's what we have in THERE THAT BOTH OF THESE ideas are in our DNA. We've had sadikim and that you could say on them a sadikim and that they had to beat the odds. They had to fight the fight and they had to do it in the wayin did it. The end of the day as it relates to hinus we learned so much of their there's also so much to learn from who they were from their life from the way they went about it. Either way, just a little bit of a limwood, a little bit of the rest of the story. Spoken so much about Rebenh it's almost not fear to not balance the scales a little bit. This is a little bit of the rest of the story as it relates to the great Rabbi Yeshua.