Bechoros 11

Today's daf is and we will begin from the top line of so the topic of course is and the of the unique type of and that is the although is a non-coosher animal theory says that it's subject to kadushkar that's a very big kesh ordinarily you would think in order for an animal to have kadusha At the very least, it would have to be a kosher animal. In order for an animal to go on, of course, it has to be a kosher animal. The says something that's not considered kosher for somebody to consume is not considered kosher stating that the says for reasons al that the gar mentioned earlier in the param is given thus is subject to the laws of but stating that it's a very different type of whereas an ordinary would physically go on as it relates to the that's the Torah says meaning rather than doing something with this that has what you're to do is take the transfer the from the onto a take that s give it to a which as we've seen in the sugis already means that being that the kamar itself is not going on the mak that Definition then of the that the has is different than the definition of the of the which itself goes on the misbehad is whereas the which itself is not going to go on the it has kadusha to the extent that you have to be and take the thing that you were with and give it to that means the kadusha that the has is not kadusha rather what it is is kadusha but regardless The topic again is specifically the again what do you do with that you were now with the meaning what do you do with the set you give it to a ones defined a little bit the word means or so it could be either from the species of sheep or from goats although se usually means sheep sheep. But as it relates to this, it means either it could be either sheep or it could be a goat. That's going to be important. It could be a male, it could be a female. God, it could be a larger set. It could be a smaller set. And finally even though is in the context over here is which is a related thing ordinarily is excluded from as it relates to the set that you're using to be the but today's picks up with the so the time of the Mishna said that it could be either a large set or it could be a small saying that the argued and said that there is a minimum shear Although sounds like as small as you want it to be argued and he said that it has to be at least the value of a shackle. So on that note said is like that it doesn't have to be shackle. I mean it could be even you know how small it could be. It could even be a patuza which is a very weak se like the frailst possible and baranka. It could be something that's worth so little. A danka is a sixth of a even that's going to be okay. And just like there's no share to how big the set could be. So to there's no share of how small the share could be. Came into she said how small the set could be. It could be the smallest weakest most frail sand in the world. Ra said the mission is mash that way. God of a fact says it's so pushet that that's what the Mishna said when it said God of a what was coming to be as aasha when he said you would have thought no maybe not so much or that's why it was important for to speak out that even though it says but you would think everything has a so you would think that if it's so small or it's so weak that wouldn't be okay that it doesn't matter how small it is again is that it can be god of a cotton. doesn't have to have the value of a shekel. And what is the definition of cotton? The definition of cotton is even if it's a even if it's only a hefty [snorts] he asked me he said how big does the have to be if I'm going to be this with a in order for me to bear told him like this someone that has an infer would use a a set that's worth itself in raw. If he doesn't have an iron, he has an iron buckle ban. If he has an iron bay, you know, not an iron, but also not an anogi, then he would use something that's aggy. I'm aggi that's how big is a raggi. What is the share? It's three. It's in between the shackle and the shackle's two zen. The cell is four zen. The rug is in between. Why is it called a raggi? It's comfortable around the cell cuz it's only one z. And it's comfortable around the shackle because it's only one off. The bottom line is that just said that the isogi that when you're taking a and you're using it to be how valuable does it have to be which is three on the first of it could be a sixth of it could be this weak frail set. And here like that said that the is you have to follow the which is that it should be three says like if you're going to come ask so if you're going to ask they're going to tell you that it has to be three if however you act on your own you didn't ask a question and you even that would be okay. In other words, that was when said, he meant to say that there's an idea of doing a and therefore if you ask a obviously going to tell you what you're supposed to do, it's three. So the second is the first hill that even that's on the level. Somebody has a and he simply does not have a goat or he doesn't have a sheep. [snorts] So there's a second option. There's a plan B. You could always take money or shive as we'll see in the Gumar that is equal in value to the and use that to be the now there's two over here. The first is that even though it says in the it says it not only once, it says it even twice. And this is of what the definition of says, you see that that's only that's only plan A, but there's a plan B. Plan B is you can use money. Plan B is you can use even something that has the value of money. But there's a secondish the second is that why is that? Because we just said like that the set does not have to be equal in value to the how small could it be even if you ask he would tell you okay it should be three could be worth 100 and so they're going to say you can use a that's only three that's if you're using a so if you're using it could be even only three if however you don't have Now you're relying on plan B. You're going to be with money already is and this is a this is very important because we're going to see for example the next mission. So the mission is going to give a whole list of things that you can't use to be just reading from the So you have a whole list again of things that you can't be played with. What do you mean you can't be played with anel? I thought I could use money. I thought I could use why should an eagle be worse than shoveass? The terret is it's not worse than but there's two of you can be with you can be p with shavas and there's a huge difference. If I'm being p with a I could use even if I want to go with it would be a salah but doesn't have to be more expensive than that. If I'm using then it has to be so all these where the Mishna says what I can or cannot use to be that's as it relates to being with the that's as it relates to the as it relates to all these are not relevant. Of course, it can be played with an eagle, you can play with a you can be played with a etc etc. Either way, so there's a very important that that even though the that's stating that he lab said that the before discuss whether that the owns before he's does it is it or is it not so said that says only you can be even with going said that it's the means that he would hold that you have to be somehow the made the two that if you hold that That means that the only way to be ped is with the garra says so obviously wasn't going to interrupt you who the he must go who the is based on the of the yesterday's if you hold that you should not have to be with the says said what the just said that said that which essentially is number you know is not like when it says so then already there's a whole discussion in that but it's not certainly not when he argues with so if that's the case is not like that was also like so that you could is only going to that it comes why if not you have to say that even according to you could be with not like some of the mentioned in yesterday's and what's the for it because why should it be any worse than hectish hectish is also still you can be paid with money. There's a concept of being paid. Now there's rules and regulations that define when you can be paid when you cannot be paid. But the point is is that you could be which is even with money. And if that's the case there's no reason that should be any different because that means you can't be with money. Why should it be worse than was once with cooked he would cook food and grass and grains and and he used that why based on this you could be but like we said earlier the only time you can be ped with is if it's if it's equal to dollar for dollar is worth if somebody wants to be his friends. It's something he has a right to do. So Ruven walks into Shim's house. He sees that Shim has a Ruven has a right to take a his own and it could be the Shim with his own. Now the truth is right away a very important where the discusses somebody walks into his friend's field and he sees that he didn't he wasn't mafus yet. Does he have a right to be mafish? Let's say from his own on behalf of his friend meaning they'd be mim to say that how do I have a right to be for you is your how do I have a right to do it for you just like I can't transact for you I can't get married for you. So why should I have a right to be for you either? If you make me a that's one thing but if you don't make me a so that's a and says right away that that has nothing to do with our at first glance it sounds very similar in you're going to be on behalf of somebody else's field over here you want to be on behalf of somebody else's but said there's a fundamental difference the difference is that as it relates to the says that the bum has an obligation to be which means that if somebody else wants to do it in le of the he would have to be pointed as a it would have to work with but over here it never says that the bum has to be the one to be someone has to do it not necessarily the so over here the understands that regardless of the outcome of the here the struggle and is not sure there there's different nuances because there the bim is the one that needs to be so when it's not the so now we have to start claring and we have to start looking to figure out whether someone that's not the bum could do it where the says really the bum is the one that has to do it over here the never said the bum has to do it thus said that he heard from the great that So let's say Ruven now goes and he's played the with his own who keeps the losses now. So ordinarily it's my I'm with my set. I get to keep the I don't give the to the I give the to the but [snorts] over here somebody else was the one that was poed. So is that someone else the person who laid out the s the one that gets to keep the or maybe the owner of the is the one that gets to keep the like the same we had a moment ago it's his of course he gets to keep you can't take my doesn't make sense who holds that it's never really mine in the first place it was always he said earlier it was a cactus is not really mine. Mine I have certain in it but holds is but other than that we never look at me as being the owner of myish that I was because soon as I make something hectish it's means if I was to somebody else it's not mine anymore. So that was the who so what's the question? Do we say it's like when it comes to hectish whoever's part of the hectish he's the one that gets to keep the hectish it doesn't matter if he was the original owner or not the original owner so if you would compare toish why because it's about not like heish according to so you would say whoever's whoever laid out the what'sever said is that's going to he gets to keep the maybe here it's different this is different why is it different because The way pigion works by pakar is fundamentally different than the way it works by hectish based on the beginning of the daf and that is hectish you're always ped dollar for dollar. So if I have a $1,000 worth of hectish that I want to be ped assuming I can I have to write $1,000 check and now be p it has to work dollar for dollar when it comes to it doesn't have to be dollar for dollar works. So over here you could take even a small little set if it's shva it has to be dollar for dollar but it doesn't have to be I could always be with a set and it doesn't have to be dollar for dollar. So that means that as much as the kamar is not mine right now but I have some in this you know why cuz I could take my $100 and be ped with a $3 and keep the $97. So I have $97 inside this ordinarily. I don't have anything in the hectish. The best I have is I could be ped which means I can take my $100 hectish transfer the $100 somewhere else. Okay, it's like I bought my hectish back but the hish itself is not mine. Over here the kamar is intrinsically mine. The difference between the value of the kamar and the minimum value of the set that I need to use to be part of the is intrinsically mine. alumnus that's really mine as a result even according to I have something is always it's not but at the same time it's not because I have nothing in it I will never even have anything in it the only way I'll ever have anything in my hectish if I'm have to be ped dollar for dollar which means that when I'm essentially buying it back it's very as opposed to over here although right now I don't have it because right now it's it's but I could always be ped for something that's worth much less than what I have right now and as a result I'll be able to keep the difference of being that I'll be able to even though I don't have it now but I could get to the difference it makes it therefore I have some m some in it you can't be and take it away from me either way that's the accord that holds that is not like it's based on where the name that somebody else can be played my assuming he's played the myar Does he keep the or do I keep the according to it's p the owner of the keeps it's his it's the question is according to it's about no do we look at it like if we look at it like the keeps it or do we not look at it like so this is where somebody steals his friends says the price even though doesn't right now belong to the owner because he has to be but after he's going to be his. So he's considered the you have to pay to the time of this price if the price doesn't have it. It is his must. This is 101. If somebody steals from hectish doesn't pay. So you see from here it's not viewed like if it's not viewed like heish as it relates to it shouldn't be viewed like heish with regards to the thus although it's true that could be doesn't need it has nothing to do with you don't have to come on but at the same time if you're going to be somebody else's it's very nice of you but realize you're going to lose the and you're not getting the either by hish there's such a concept that you get the kamar you would get the thing that you were even though you weren't the original owner but is not like it's certainly not like hesish and even it's not viewed as says there's nothing else to discuss on this topic this resolve this issue a ton of one of the things that the Mishna said on as it [snorts] relates to the is that the enters the deer as it relates to so there's something called every 10th animal that you have you need to be mafish as that of fame is up that explains the Mishna said that [snorts] the what exactly are we referring to? Let's be a little bit more specific. Where are we in the in the timeline of this set? Is it talking about where the set was already given to the coen? Meaning had a he was played with the say he took the say gave it to the co and now the is saying that the has an obligation to take this put it into his when he's not true we learned in anytime I buy a or someone gives me a bought from the seven. So there's no question in the world that he doesn't have an obligation to take it must be it's referring to is now the problem with saying that it's referring to is why should have to take the that he's going to give to a and put it into his I'm giving it to a anyways I'm not keeping the so why should I have a to do that so the is going to come up with an where the where the is that he's going to give to but he doesn't have a to give it to a so I have a to be maf if I don't have to said and we're not having this discussion. So I have a to but at the same time not to give it to the th it's not that I don't have to put it into the is that what's that talking about where had 10 the truth is that the discussed that we could have said the same if you only had one but okay the case of the gar just to make it a little bit more confusing is where you had 10. So what do you have to do? If I have a so I have to be but at the same time I get to keep it because I don't have a to give to the right that was the mission of the test. So we had a that had 10 he was 10 says why that's you have to be the say you have to be but at the same time I keep it. So being that I keep it is that I have to now put it into the deh I'm giving it to the of course I don't have to include it in my but this is where I'm not giving it to the said how does that make sense if I'm to give it to a no if there was a so I don't have to give it to the say exactly this is This is that had 10 vetamores. So he didn't have 10 sophic he had 10 vi okay so sounds like he has to be mafish 10 says right what's the shenan he these from za his [snorts] maternal grandfather was a his mother's father was a okay his father had his grandfather had it from his grandfather who was [clears throat] so he has to be 10 says and he has to give and he gets to keep it. So what's this case? The case is when you have a Isra who has 10 pakamars but he yashed it from a kayen. Now if these 10 were the property of a kayen because they were born in the rush of a now that the ised it from the kayan he would have no to do anything because the was said to wasn't said to a so if a has it gives birth now to a has no kadusha. So if the within it from a co there would be no but with a did not have the heed it from his own and he his was and it was also his maternal grandfather and being that his was he did have. So if you go back to the origin of these donkeys these donkeys have kadusha because they were born. It just so happens in between there was a layover and it stopped over and there was just of a what's the significance the significance is like this that being that is didn't get it directly from the other he got it from the co and the cyan himself had no to be mafish cuz even though it was born by the kan's grandfather but once it came to the k doesn't have a to do anything with it what am I going to do I'm going to take a s be give myself the the s so he doesn't have a to do anything being that he doesn't have a to do anything the that's who it from the also doesn't have to do anything meaning he has a to be he has to be because if you go back to the origin of these they had so there is a of but doesn't have to do anything with doesn't have to give it to anybody cuz just like his grandfather we he's coming didn't have a to give it to anybody why didn't the grandfather to give it to anybody cuz he's giving it to himself so he's not giving it to somebody else I don't have to give it to somebody else either So because it was bornish, I have to be because it was born is it has but at the same time being that I got it not from the isra I got it from a therefore I myself don't have to do more than the had to do. I mean that the although he had to be but they didn't have a to give it to anybody. So I don't have a to give it to anybody either. Thus what's the I have to be like my would have had to have done but at the same time it it's mine and being that it's mine this is another to be that's the juxosition between these two this is another example of where I have a to be but at the same time I have to be this also what do you mean if I'm giving it to a if I'm giving it to a why do I have to be mastered It's talking about where I'm going to keep it. What's an example of how I'm going to keep it. So the first example of said in the name of was we had a suffic but at the same time I don't have to give it to you. So it's a but from a standpoint the same time I keep it that it's I have to be master. This is the second example also in the name of you have it from a from being that it came originally from you have the but being that I got it from the himself didn't have an obligation to do anything with it so therefore I don't have to do anything with it either a very similar head so means he had that was already meaning it's at the point where it's you. So if you have it, you have to be see the rest of the story. Heed it from his grandfather who was a and had it from the master similar himself doesn't have a torus or he doesn't have a to give the mistress to anybody because what happened was the origin of this was thus there's a owns it right now he should have a mafumus but he himself got it not from a he got it from himself didn't have to give it to anybody. So being that it started off in the of I have to be being that I got it from I don't have to give it to anybody because being that the didn't have to give it to anybody I don't have to give it to anybody either. Thus the same exact you have to be but you got to keep it. Both of these were said in the name of the very similar right both cases where has something that ordinarily have to give to heed it from the first was in the context of the second is the context of the say you need both cases had only had the first the I need to give to is is a separate entity right it's not attached it's not part of the it's a separate entity thus you would think over there when I I have a to take the now and give it to a but over here the trumal and miser that I would have to be mafish from the devil's part of the devil and being that it's part of the devil as long as I wasn't mafish yet the chumus maybe we don't see the trumus here so if we don't see the chumus we don't look at it as a vayash and trumus and if we don't look at it as vayash trumus is maybe I don't have a to be at all. Therefore, we needed to explain this but as had we only had the kids I would have thought over here. You would have thought that is that you look at the chumas as if it's already muish because the chum are going to come from the thing that it's and I'm going to be from the and it's right in front of me over there as it relates to the given [snorts] so maybe it' be different meaning the said that I'm going to be mafish is not the have to be mafish the So the s the on the one hand are two completely different entities but then again I didn't say as opposed to the and the trum which on the one hand the doesn't exist right now it's not a separate entity at all but then again it's going to exist from the thing that the point is each one has a unique characteristic as it relates to the sh and so that reason had to clarify both cases a similar If somebody buys meaning that was he from he has but at the same time he gets to keep it. So the interrupts the you bought from a non-Jew. The nonjew is the one that did the it was in the nonju who physically did the meaning who did the on this that put it in a state where a nonwe did it that only that does the but if a non-Jew does the there's noises at all Such that if a non-Jew is the one that did the physical there wouldn't be must be talking about did it in the of a non-Jew. So a non-Jew had a field. He had a Jewish worker and the Jewish worker did the miru. So it's not the it's the it's the action was done by a yid but the fu itself belonged to a guy. Now you went ahead and you bought this from a guy. So you bought from where was the one that did the now let's go back to the what was the explains well God doesn't have a to be the land that he now owns from meaning so owns property init of course he has an obligation what owns property so This is a big this obviously is going obviously of the opinion of so if I buy this now from technically and being that was the one who did it's technically that's why that's the explanation the first word as it relates to the because you could always tell him it's the same even though the uses different language but it's at least a very similar to the at the end of the day who did I get it from I got it from a guy would would a be able to go over to a guy and tell the you know I'm give you huh you're not going to get it right so if I got it from the guy I don't have to do more than the guy would have had to have done just like when I yarn the from Just like when you the devil from a you don't have to you have to be mafish but you don't have to give it to anybody why didn't have to give it so I don't have to give it either just like in in there's a similar concept who doesn't have to do anything so I should have to do anything either so we said it with regards to getting it from a same is going to be true as it relates to getting it from a nonishna in the third paric somebody has and he gave it to a he gave it to someone that's as long as when you gave it to him you had already been you know for sure it wasn't you don't have to be concerned that the you don't have to be worried that he may have switched your pairs for his pairs because the pairs that he gave you back is is or it's perish You don't have to worry about that. Assuming you yourself gave me assuming the one the perish that you were maf did not were not perish it's that it's in the same state if you give it to a non that's really a whole different story then you have to view it as peris meaning if you look at it as a go so whatever the status of the gois are you have to be concerned are the status of your pairs meaning the is less trusted than the kouti and then the and as a result you have to be concerned that maybe he switched says now the way you look at the Paris assuming you gave it to a guy is you look at them as if they're okay what's the difference between the tanakama said if you give it to a go it's said it's means it's a suffic whether you have to be or not everybody agrees you have to be from it have to give it to that We look at it. What does that mean? Does a guy ever give? No. We're saying that he switched it. We look at you have to give it to because you now have to go ahead and give it to it's only a suffix whether the guy switched it. is do we say it's because he switched it or is only a suffix with everything we just learned was sitting once and he said over this was sitting with soi was saying this in the name of right who was the one who said this I'm who lived in so lived in we know lived in but he went to learn and he came back from he brought a lot of with him. So it sounds like this is one of these doesn't say like the usually says over in front of that he heard from so he says over this is what said like this time I don't understand you're telling me that if you have pis you give it as a toy there's a concern now that the may have switched it so according to tanakama we assume for sure he switched it according to it's only a but on the side that he switched What do you have to do? What would Allah say? You would have to be and give it to a guy who says it's a suffix I can keep it. But if I we knew for sure that I switched it, that the guy switched it, you would have to be and give it to a said, right? What was the said? So I can always tell the a real I can always tell the I bought it from a guy from the you were getting nothing. So I don't have to give you anything either. But how does it with what we just said here? It's mash that if I buy or if I have now my in this case I didn't buy it. In this case we're concerned that the guy switched it at the end of the day I have a pis of a guy. It sounds like I have a to be mafish that for sure but give it to a why do I have to give it to a soay continued and said you know before you respond I think I know the terrors to my own maybe between and between maybe at the although it seemed to be rooted in a in a but at the end of the day maybe it's only true Trumaser but as it relates to interesting so if I buy from a guy I do have a to give it to a thus that's the where if I'm mafis to a guy do we there's a concern that the guy may have switched to Paris thus even though the Paris that I was maf already had chumismusers given from it but maybe the Paris that it was switched with did not have trumismusers given from it so over I have to give to the even though I got it from a guy. It could be the host that maybe that's only by by now if it's going to have to be based on you're right. You reminded me what I heard. That's exactly what I heard. It's only know that it's a who gives the ley, right? You give the ley although Ezra but you give the ley and then the ley has a to be maf from his right. Ley doesn't give he doesn't have real estate. He has to own land in order for him to be able to be mafam entered. The land was divided amongst the 12. So the got they were able to add but the lady doesn't have but he has a mitzv of he has to take from his and he has to be which the refers to asumaser he has all the trum but the point is is that this is talking to because the ones that you shall take or maybe buy the end of the ger What does the say? He said, "You're right. It's not a It's really based on only true is not true. The last was The last was that if the dies that was the that's used for where did it die now it died in the as in lie of the and it died in the and we're saying that it died in the his family they could have an offer Why would if you could have enough from it while it's alive, why can't you have enough from it after it dies? Maybe it's talking about where it died in the and again who's allowed to have from it. We mean the meaning that even though it died before it came to the but the end of the day I was mafet so it's considered the the property of the why would you think that because it died before it came to the no says no that actually is so I would have thought that until it comes to the doesn't get it yet it's not is that as soon as you and there's a little bit of lumpness here because it's true that the is but to say that it only becomes when I give it to a so if I have a and for my is we pass like as we saw in the previous so it's now that I'm would be a to say that this also even to a what do you mean that I'm going to give it to the it's going to be yeah when I give it to the it's going to be but maybe until the gets it it's still so there's a that if it dies in Israel I'm never going to end up giving it to a because it died so could a be from it what's the in that because it was a in lie of the which itself was I never gave it to the so you never had an to the ken that was behind us maybe from it as soon as it's already to somehow remove the as soon as it's already and if even if it's not so if it dies it would be as a very very famous way more famous for the than it is for the it tells the story of Ben's exchange with the it's interesting we know that Rabishua was one of the in the time of the destruction of of the second Bamedash in fact lived during that very critical transitional period the says inactus from said that I was a ley and I used to sing I used to sing Shir in the BT. We also know that Benua was one of the two people that smuggled Rab and Ben Zakai out of at the time of the story of Kamarans so that Zaki can have an audience with the Ri to try to save the Jewish people. We know that is from the most often mentioned he's the of he was as we mentioned from the he was also a rebi of the great rabbi. So anyone that's ever learned Gomorrah for an hour is familiar with the tan of of Rabhu stating that what's not so well known but is really abundantly obvious from Shas is that in addition to Rabishua being one of the great Tanoim and one of the great Moy Rabhu had a very unique relationship with the government. Rab Yeshua was a very very politically connected person. He was very very very influential and he used that protects you to be there for the Jews during this very very critical and pivotal time. Just to bring out the point, we learned the gamarra together not so long ago. This is a perfus. It's the over there says the told I know that your god is compared to a a lion. The says in the case of what's the big deal that he's compared to a lion our big war we have gladiators they fight lions for a living they're able to BEAT THEM SO THAT'S THE godless of that are gladiators I think would BE ABLE TO FIGHT THE your god and be able to defeat him so told him not when the pik says says compared to a lion doesn't mean the lion that you have in your amphitheater but rather it's like I want to see the so he told him you sure he said yeah you're sure yeah he regretted seeing it but the bottom line is this is an exchange that king tells that happened between the of and one d later also in parus The Gmorra says, "I want to prepare a meal for your God." It's not possible because when comes to eat a meal, he comes with a huge entourage. It's going to be impossible. He says, "I don't care. I want to." And he told him what to do. He told him to go to the Yam and prepare a meal. And they spent six months preparing the meal. And all of a sudden, wind came and it blew it away. And then the next time they did it, the sea overflowed and he realized this was something that he wasn't able to do. But two exchanges between the [snorts] why is it that Shabas food smells so good. So Yeshua told him because all theas that are preparing for Shabas and now for they have a special spice that they put in their food and it's called Shabas and that's why it smells so good. I also want only somebody that keeps Shabas does this work for. But if somebody doesn't keep Shabas this is not going to work. Another this is the says the case's daughter once told it seems that wasn't so handsome and she was very taken back that Hashem would take such an incredible brain such and put it into a says I'm curious your father [snorts] when he stores all his vintage wines, right? His wines that are hundreds of years old says, "Where does he keep all those wines? Does he not keep them in earn? What else? What do you mean you such of a wine? You should have it in wine and in gold and in silver uh barrels." [snorts] She went home and she told her father, they went ahead and they did and everything spoiled. So they came back and they told uh what happened. So they told the case so what happened? So he said who is the one who gave you this brilliant idea was so the case says I want to speak to my says why do you tell this to my daughter? Wait you're trying to spoil my wine. Noah I just said the same thing your daughter couldn't understand why me an ugly vessel would have in it such an incredible he said well I said then why do you why does your father use ugly vessels to store his wine either way the says does that mean that if somebody's handsome he can't be good in learning so says no stating that that handsome person if he wasn't so good-looking he'd be even a big alum and he would be better at learning this is the gumar in tus but again you have gumar after gumar after gumar we just mentioned four just have a little bit of a sampling where you find this concept, you find this idea where the great is having exchanges with the queser. The truth is, the truth is that use this relationship clearly to help the Jews. How do you know that? There was a time that the yidden needed a favor from some very important governness in Rome. She called Mitsuya and she was a woman that says [snorts] they sent me who's a person that has clearance that would be able to get to this uh to get to this woman said I'm going to go now she was. So the garra goes and tells the story and thenua and the garra says you learn from there and but the bottom line is is that Yeshua was the one that said why is rahu going you learn the gar I know it could have been rabza for the same price no it couldn't have been because the one that's very much affiliated he's the one connected and as a result this was something that he was able to do here's another garra that very clearly comes to life this is in the of He once went to a very large city in Rome. They told him there's a child that's incarcerated. He's very very handsome. And you went he went and he stood at the door of the and he quoted a he said right who allowed this to happen that the Jews are in such a denigrated place responded he said another this child is going to be once spoken the brisker of what this means but either way I'm not leaving this place didn't leave until he was able to do it did not take long until this person became like swore was going to happen and you want to know who it was drum rollish ben Alisha. It was the great Rabbi Schmob Alisha, but it was Rabishu bin Kanya that was the one that was able to go ahead and save Rabi bin Alisha. He's protected. Rabish bin Kanya had the ability to open doors that other people did not have the ability to open because of the close proximity he had, the influence he had, the respect that he had by the queser of Ramy. If he's still not convinced there's a bracious paras in Hrien the secular world he's known as Hrien the great but once he told him create the world he gave him a response this is also in paras >> [snorts] >> create man everyone knows the answer told him it's from the he went in and he gave him a response so there's two exchanges in medish there's more by the way but here's two as a sampling where you find that adaronis the hadri himself meaning sometimes when you learn a gamar and you see the word quesad The quesa doesn't always mean the case with but you see kan was able to get all the way into the oval office and he's talking to him and learning he has big slots with him and the mish having conversations feel philosophical and theological discussions was able to penetrate literally the highest branches of Rome I think this medish brings this point home even more than anything this is a medish and this is in pares >> [snorts] >> In the times oft the Romans came around and they said we're willing to build witness. He lobbied he used his influence to try to get the B mikt to be rebuilt. And in fact may Rabi Why is Bishop Kan? You know who else lived in the times? Ra lived that lived there lived there. A lot of big sadik lived then. But it was possolding they were working they were raising the money for it and then the whole thing the koutin got involved. By the way you don't even know if the kout are really the koutin because all these kazals are so censored. You know who's who right? Whenever you see menuki go ahi you don't know what's what but the bottom line is the kim ostensibly are the ones that got involved and they derailed it but the point is has this relationship with the that he's using not for personal benefit he's using it right that's his interest over here and you see he used it to different times withhabis And he used it for the the prize of all prizes and that is to get the Romans to actually sign an edict. We're willing this is a part of Jewish history people don't know that we're willing to go along and re allow you to rebuild the base because of this the whole thing got derailed just to bring the point home even farther. Rabish Kan was by the and there was an Apikyus that was debating him and the way they were debating each other was within. So he shows him. He showed him some uh form of sign language, some that suggested that a nation that their god has already turned away from responded back again with some sort of rem even though maybe he seems far but there's a stretched out hand that's very much on top of us. Some of the kids are the case is watching this and you know he is an innocent bystander. He has no clue what's flying. He turns to Rishu and he tells him what did he show you? So he told him he said yeah I'm curious if what did you show? He said and did respond I don't know they said a person who doesn't know how to speak who doesn't understand we've spoken many times that the said that the z used to always writeer everything that the goyan wrote was and he used to say because when you stand in front of the king you have to speak, he would say there's a tremendous in but the bottom line is the bottom line is he took out this guy and they ended up killing him. But here's the postcript to the story. When passed away said Carson said what's going to be with who's going to know how to be of the Carson. So he told them Mark gives another version of what happened. But when Yeshua banana passed away or when he was getting old and he was coming close to passing away and told what's going to be after you leave this world who's going to defend us who's going to stand up for us so he told them you have nothing to worry about and IF THERE'S NO TO FIGHT IT so then if it's going to be their big is also going to pass [laughter] away we don't have to worry about it was always going to survive But used his influence, his debating skills even on such a level that there was there was such a concern who's going to be the one that's going to defend us for the Carson and says this is the beer in another. And this is the literally where the brings up talks about what happened when passed away was what does it What's going to be with the minimum had incredible incredible influence. He had incredible incredible influence. And therefore you find that he's always conversing together with the again you know when you go through these gimmar you see them one at a time and because you see them one at a time so you can't properly appreciate the puzzle and you can't properly appreciate the bin or should we say the pile of these this is literally literally a fraction of what's out there but whether it's precious Ra just to name a few where you find Yeshua has some power. He has some influence literally he's of the where he's sitting literally with them and he's using that influence. He's using that influence to save during times that this was very very critical. I just want to conclude this with a few tiny horrors just to bring out this point maybe [laughter] the first is I saw in the from this is in it's page he says that says [snorts] and then there was a 19th that was instituted. It's the and the says when exactly was that instituted said by the way everyone agrees is not [snorts] it was instituted in so that's when they instituted this he's talking the name of the it was something that was instituted in Yavna so just to read a few tiny excerpts HOW YOU DOING? BECAUSE AFTER THE THERE were people that were being they were me making up stories. They were getting up publicly and they were saying bull about the yid and things that were 100% not true and it got to a point it got to a point that the y didn't even know what to do anymore. What's the SAID HE SAID LET'S go ahead and we'll be A WE'RE GOING TO PLAY WITH THE CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT THAT'S THE level it got to now we're going to say after we're going to alter the because it got to such a level he quotes for just think about this. The thing was OF HEARTS. THE THING THAT IS BOTHERING PEOPLE THE MOST, THEY DIDN'T EVEN MENTION which answer. They omitted. So they decided it doesn't make any sense. Right? You read these you just have to put it on not two times speed. like you have to slow it down.5 speed to take in right and he feels like the thing that he has on his mind you know he didn't which word to tie it into the main thing had was was not being represented in the every not just that say all the every single year would go ahead and would say this and that's how we ended up with the 19th but says says that's the history that's seriously so says in this piece he says go through the gar and you're going to see in all the different gamaras in all the different gar who's featured so prominently in uh in these garas is always talking to the case of and it's so many of the gumar he's talking literally to hatred himself and he's trying to be there and come up with some form of some some some form of and you see he's trying to get so much done he said it's not with this it's this because coming to to save the day at such a critical time so again it it puts all these conversations that is having with the into a context that it's happening at a time where the biggest suram says facing was that [snorts] was the biggest sur that was facing the Jews. That's why that which every was for and wasn't being represented by the they said let's go tweet the let's throw it in and who is the leader who is the one that's representing more than anybody else in this it's none other it's none other than the great you know you learn like this having an exchange about a how many years it took for this uh to have a baby you don't properly appreciate uh what's going on then we go through the guras the Gumar that we mentioned. So then it, you know, it brings it out a little bit more. But then when you have an appreciation for Jewish history, you learn we spoke about that in so much detail in the beginning, right? We had to speak about it on the day of but either way you go through and you appreciate the context of the times. It's something that you understand even more. We've spoken so much about Rebelzar over the years. Rebelzar's uh balpa rebar's was a yid whose name was Rabbi Yeshua and just like rebel has his legacy has his story Rabbi Yeshua has has his story and really the legacy of Rabbi Yeshua if you know you know is not just that he's one of the greatest tanam of all time but the legacy of Rabbishua is even more than that the legacy of Rabbishua is he's an askin and his area of Askconos is an area That's literally challenging and it's something that is risking the entire union itself to to a point that understood they have to be in a new so that that is going to be represented mameish and the person that is leading that charge the man on the scene is none other than the great Rabishua that's a big part of the rest of the story of the legacy of Rab Yeshua. We're just getting started. This raid is part one Hashem. the next stop which will be after we're going to uh go through the second half of the story of Rab Yeshua and we're going to come back to talk a little bit more about this in a Rab Yeshua part two as it relates to not just Rabu the Tana Rabishu the manag Yeshua theuim Rab Yeshua the Mates the Rab Yeshua who led Clayrol in a successful way during that very very critical time.