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Can we begin? We're going to learn a
Gamara. I'm sure everyone here is very
familiar with this Gamara. This is one
of the most famous Gamarahs in all of
Shas, if not the most well-known Gamara
in Shas.
But one thing I guarantee you, you never
heard it like this.
Um the Gamara tells us a story. Tan
Rabanan.
And I'll read part of it and I'll
paraphrase part of it. It's the Gamara
in Berachot
chof zayin amud bet to chof chet amud
aleph.
Maiseh detalmid echad, there's a story
about a student. Now what's interesting
is the Gamara does not identify who the
student is, and strangely the Gamara
identifies him at the end of the Gamara.
And he comes before Rabbi Yehoshua. Now,
let's just get the historical backdrop
of the story. This Where did he come?
Where was this Yeshiva? This was in the
Mesivta. Which Mesivta? The Mesivta of
Yavneh.
When When was there a Mesivta in Yavneh?
In the aftermath of the Churban Bayis
Hamikdash. The Bayis Hamikdash was
destroyed approximately in 68 CE. This
is in the year 69 CE.
Um we know because in the time of the
Churban, Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai was
let out of the city and he met Vespasian
and he requested three things. One of
the three things that he requested was
ten li Yavneh vechachameha. Because
Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai realized that
the Bayis Hamikdash is not necessarily
the backbone of Klal Yisrael. It's the
backbone of Klal Yisrael is limud
haTorah and the Sanhedrin and the
continuity of Torah. Which the Mesivta
in Yavneh basically took over the
Sanhedrin.
And
Rabban Gamliel headed the
Mesivta in Yavneh. He was the Nasi
followed by Rabbi Yehoshua who was the
Av Beis Din. Now the position of Nasi
was a higher position than the position
of Av Beis Din. In the Seder Doros
Harishonim
of Rabbi Yitzchak Isaac
um
the author of Dor Harishonim he explains
that
Klal Yisrael was now reeling from the
most heart-wrenching loss that they ever
had to suffer from. And that is the
destruction of the Bayis Hamikdash. And
because of that, Rabban Gamliel felt
that in order to preserve Klal Yisrael,
he needed to be noheg his nasius
beramah, which means to exert his
authority in order to preserve the
strength of Klal Yisrael. Rabban Gamliel
felt that if the chachamim were sort of
weak, then Klal Yisrael would fall
apart. And because of that, Rabban
Gamliel consistently throughout Shas
rules with an iron fist. He does not
allow anybody to disagree with him or
anybody to question his opinion. And of
course he did this lesheim Shamayim.
Now, we're already in the aftermath of
the fact he put
his brother-in-law
Rabban Eliezer Hagadol in cheirem. And
he did that lesheim Shamayim. He even
said lo lechvod lechvod ya'asi si ela
for the strength of Klal Yisrael. Now we
have this student and he comes he asks
Rabbi Yehoshua a shailah. Is Maariv
reshus or is Maariv a chovah? And Rabbi
Yehoshua responded Maariv is a reshus.
So the chachamim a little bit difficult.
Why is he asking Rabbi Yehoshua? Rabbi
Yehoshua is not the head honcho here.
Rabban Gamliel is the is the man in
charge. He then comes before Rabban
Gamliel and he says is Maariv reshus or
is Maariv a chovah? He said Maariv is a
chovah. Now
everybody knows
you don't really ask two rabbis. And if
you ask two rabbis, do not tell the
second rabbi what the first rabbi said.
That's the worst thing you could do. And
so what what does the student do? I'm
like "Rabbi Yehoshua, Rabbi Yehoshua,
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RABBAN
GAMLIEL? RABBI YEHOSHUA TOLD me it's
reshus."
Now who is this talmid? He's like he's
instigating, you know, he he's being
mardin bemachlokes. So Rabban Gamliel
said "Hamtein li. Wait for me acher
yichlus uvalei treisin leveis
hamedrash." Let's wait until all the
shield bearers enter the beis hamedrash,
namely the talmidei chachamim. When they
entered
the shailah gets up and he says is
Maariv reshus or is Maariv a chovah?
Rabban Gamliel says Maariv is a chovah.
And Rabban Gamliel says "Anyone argues
on me?" And Rabbi Yehoshua says "No. No.
I don't argue with you." And Rabban
Gamliel said "Oh really? But they told
me that you say reshus."
So at this point in time Rabbi Yehoshua
um
he says "Yehoshua." He doesn't call him
Rabbi. He says "Yehoshua, stand on your
feet and they're going to test you and
let them testify against you." So Rabbi
Yehoshua stood up and he said like this
"If I was alive and the eid was dead, I
could contradict the dead. But now that
I'm alive and he's alive, I can't
contradict him."
So what happened? Rabbi Yehoshua said
"Case closed."
Meaning
you know, you obviously argue with me,
but what can we do? You're wrong. You
know, I'm the Nasi.
But the problem was Rabban Gamliel
continued to sit and give shiur. He
ordered Rabbi Yehoshua to stand and he
never told him to sit.
Acher rinenuhu kol ha'am. Now listen
carefully.
The Doros Harishonim which is
probably the most important Jewish
historical work writes, "You're medayek
in the Gamara. The Gamara doesn't say
that the rabbonim were meraninim after
him. Rinenuhu kol ha'am." It was, you
know, the amei ha'aretz who were sitting
in the back and they don't really
understand the content of the shiur, but
they're just looking for some politics
to, you know, hang on to. And they they
started badmouthing Rabban Gamliel.
V'amru "Lo chutzpah zeh she'Rabbi Akiva
amud amud."
They told Chutzpah "Okay, you can't
continue to loudspeak the shiur from
Gamliel. Because Gamliel is abusing
Rabbi Yehoshua. He told him to stand and
he's not giving him reshus to sit." And
the people started to say "How long will
Rabban Gamliel continue to abuse Rabbi
Yehoshua? Last year he abused him."
Meaning he didn't treat him with the
proper respect. We know the famous
Gamara in Maseches Rosh Hashanah, the
Mishnah in Rosh Hashanah, when there was
a machlokes between Gamliel and Rabbi
Yehoshua about the new moon and Rabban
Gamliel ordered Rabbi Yehoshua to come
in on the day that Rabbi Yehoshua
thought was Yom Kippur and publicly
desecrate Yom Kippur so that to to be
mechazeik the psak of Rabban Gamliel.
And then before, the year before, in the
story with the bechoros of Rabbi Tzadok.
What was the story of the bechoros of
Tzadok?
A very important halacha. A
firstborn animal is kosher.
And anyone who shechts a bechor is
chayav misah.
Unless the bechor develops a mum, then
it becomes the personal property of the
Kohanim. However, we don't trust Kohanim
that the mum developed naturally because
if a if a kohen intentionally puts a mum
on the animal to be able to shecht it,
we kinas him. And even if a kohen says
the mum developed naturally, we don't
believe a kohen because we say he had
ulterior motives. The question is what
if the kohen was somebody of the caliber
of Tzadok?
Rabbi Tzadok is a tzaddik. He's a he's a
ish emes. Should we trust him? Rabban
Gamliel said "No, we don't trust
anybody." And Rabbi Yehoshua said
"Someone of the caliber of Tzadok, we do
trust." And Rabban Gamliel said to Rabbi
Yehoshua "No, you follow my psak. I'm
the Nasi and we don't listen to
assistants." So this is the third
occasion that Rabban Gamliel is exerting
forceful authority over Rabbi Yehoshua.
So they decided let us depose Rabban
Gamliel. So they had a big dilemma. Who
are they going to appoint? The Gamara
continues on like the tenth line. To
appoint Rabbi Yehoshua he's too
involved. It would look It would look
like political, right? He's not gayav
adam, right? To appoint Rabbi Akiva? No,
we can't. Why? Because if you're a bit
leading rabbi, you're always going to
have critics and you need you need the
s'michah to protect you. Rabbi Akiva
didn't have the s'michah. Elamai, let's
appoint Rabbi Eliezer ben Azariah. He
has three He has three
ingredients. He's smart, he's rich, and
he's tenth generation from Ezra. He's
smart, so he fits the bill, he could
teach Torah. He's rich, he could deal
with the government. And finally he has
s'michah and nobody could harm him.
So they presented him the proposal and
they they said to him "You want to be
Rosh Yeshiva?" He said "Look, got to ask
the boss."
So he goes he asks his wife. And by the
way, we learn from here The wife is the
boss. that asking the boss is just a
courtesy, but you don't have to actually
listen. Because the Gamara says he said
he has to ask the boss. So he asked the
boss and he said "No." And he said
"Yes." And he did it. So why did he say
he has to ask the boss? The answer is
just a it's a sign of respect. So let me
ask my wife. And she said "But they're
going to depose you, too." He said "No,
it's kedai even if they depose me."
So if he was asking her, if he said he
has to ask her why does he have to ask
her if he's not going to listen to her?
So there's a lot of discussion on this
sefer
Divrei Torah of the Musaf Chaim. He says
this is just a sign of courtesy, but
bimili deshmaya, he made his own
decision. Fine. Anyway
the Gamara continues. The Gamara says he
had one problem.
He had one problem. He was very He was
too young, right? Everybody knows the
story. He was 18 years old. He didn't
have any white hair. And
which is not a problem if you're a rabbi
because as soon as you become a rabbi,
the white hair comes very quick. So
that's what happened. The Gamara says a
miracle happened and 18 rows of white
hair grew. And this is what Rabbi
Eliezer ben Azariah said "Hareini anik
uven shivim shanah." But not actually
shivim shanah. Okay, the story
continues.
The day that they deposed Rabban
Gamliel, they removed the guard from the
beis hamedrash.
They say "Why was there a guard in the
beis hamedrash?"
Because Rabban Gamliel had a policy.
Rabban Gamliel used to announce and cry
out "Kol talmidei chachamim toicham
kevarai al yikanes leveis hamedrash."
That no hypocrites allowed.
Now that's why there weren't so many
people in the beis hamedrash. It was
nobody there.
Because Rabban Gamliel did not allow
students "She'ein tocham kevarai." You
see, everyone's good on the outside. The
problem is the inside in as good as the
outside. So we all had a rule that no
hypocrites allowed. So on that day that
they put up a big sign, all hypocrites
welcome.
So now all of a sudden it became a very
popular Yeshiva. So the Gamara even says
they had to add benches to the base of
matters. It's a matter of like it's
either 400 benches or 700 benches
meaning thousands of tell me them were
now allowed entry into the base of
matters. I always say hayan to the point
where the Gamara says that Gamaliel had
a sad he said
maybe I stopped Torah from
I was my name from Israel.
Now get a load of this. He had a dream
and in the dream Hashem showed him a
beautiful vessel with ashes inside
meaning you're right. All these are
they're beautiful on the outside and
they're rotting on the inside. Meaning
they were being
to the policy of Gamaliel that really
tell me in Gamaliel should not enter.
Says the Gamara no they weren't. Really
Gamaliel was wrong. So why they show him
in the dream? Cuz they didn't want him
to feel bad.
So you see from here you saw Nifla
that even someone who has a good dish
and even someone who gives and they're
that doesn't mean that they're right and
it doesn't even mean that you should
follow them. Doesn't mean anything and
doesn't mean anything. Sometimes
somebody needs a job. So they have to
give or somebody sometimes people
they need parnassa so they have a good
dish but it doesn't mean they're right.
So someone
could give people special divine gifts
but it has no bearing on whether we
follow them
here
the Gamara is saying that Gamaliel was
wrong. So why
did they write him a Gamara?
Because he's a sadist and they don't
want him to feel bad but it doesn't mean
he's right.
Okay.
What?
Oh how is Gamaliel like this?
Look the Ari Zal could look at your face
and tell you what's doing. So the Ari
Zal came hundreds of years after
Gamaliel. I don't know.
Some hypocrites he just knows.
Now I would say
now
extra bedding. Now I want to tell you
I want to tell you half of a fella I
forgot to put this part on the sheet. I
thought it wouldn't be a good idea.
But it's very good idea. The Gamara says
like this on that day
Yehudi Yehuda came to the base of
matters.
He said am I allowed to leave the house?
Gamaliel said sir
Rabbi Yeshua said of course I'm allowed
to.
Gamaliel said what are you talking
about? I'm allowed to leave my house.
Rabbi Yeshua said
they're long gone.
Gamaliel said no not so fast. Why?
But it says the
Asher was I'm only
that Hashem did return I'm only
and Rabbi Yeshua said no Hashem did not
return I'm only.
So there's a
between Gamaliel and Rabbi Yeshua
whether you're allowed to marry someone
from
because did they return or did they not
return?
Fear that I'm only.
Then the Gamara continues.
Gamaliel felt very bad.
And Gamaliel said let me go be
Rabbi Yeshua.
So he got to his house
and he sees his house the walls are
black they're darkened it looked like he
had a very lowly profession.
I'm only Gamaliel says because
he's
a chef I'm only from the walls of your
house it seems like you're a blacksmith.
To which Rabbi Yeshua says woe to the
generation that you are the leader
Gamaliel because you don't understand
the
of
how they support themselves.
So there seems to be a very harsh
exchange. Gamaliel said to Rabbi Yeshua
you look like you're a blacksmith. Rabbi
Yeshua says woe to our generation that
you're the leader.
What's the back and forth over here?
Gamaliel says I insulted you be
Rabbi Yeshua said go fly a kite.
He said be me in the honor of my family.
Fine. So now the question is who's going
to tell the
that Gamaliel is being reinstated?
So the Gamara says a certain laundry
said I'm going to do the job and
ultimately in the meantime Rabbi Akiva
told the to lock the base of matters cuz
Gamaliel had you know henchmen and he
Rabbi Akiva didn't want henchmen to
disturb the men.
Bottom line is
I'm Rabbi Yeshua said I'm going to go to
Gamaliel and Rabbi Yeshua told Gamaliel
you can have the job back.
I only did it we only did this for the
honor of
now that you asked for
you could be the again. And the Gamara
says they had a very big dilemma.
The question is what should they do?
What should they do?
To remove
the completely they can't do that. Why?
They have no reason. Let
them have a good time.
No that never works. Assistant rabbis is
bad news. Assistant rabbi you're just
causing problems. No they're no
assistants. Assistants don't work.
So what did they do? Gamaliel got three
weeks Rabbi got one week and that's
Shabbat in the question Shabbat who? You
want to know who Shabbat is so we need
who Shabbat is.
Shabbat is. No we wanted to know who's
giving the Shabbat.
And then the Gamara concludes but I say
tell me by the way you know who started
this whole mess?
But I say tell me Rabbi Shimon by the
way that man was Rabbi Shimon by the
way.
So one of our say
there are a lot of questions on this
Gamara.
There's a safer could I hear Rabbi
Shimon
which from a
Friedman
who was column the city bells he has
something like 68
on Lag B'Omer. So we're going to go
through pieces of
um
I would say about three of them.
We're going to do parts of my
days my summer
hey and
my summer one.
I'm only the one in the plan.
Okay I would say the first thing you
want to know is the Gamara off the bat
says
you want to tell me his name?
Apparently not. Apparently there's a big
cover up over here. Apparently we're
throwing we don't want people to know
his name. So we don't want people know
his name. So why would I
you know why do you need to wait till
the end like somehow this is like the
grand finale. It's like reading the end
of the last page of the book. Like it's
a big site who the guy is. We don't want
to say who it is.
And if you make it to the end of the
story then we'll be then we'll give you
the privilege of knowing who this town
that is. We want to know
we want him to know what it is we want
people to know so say it off the bat.
Another thing is
if somebody asks the rabbi a question
fine. So you're going to go shopping?
That's a problem. But when you go to the
second rabbi and the second rabbi gives
an answer you don't want the last thing
in the world you do is say really?
Do you know the rabbi down the block
said you don't know what you're talking
about? You know I don't need to speak in
a hurry.
This is
great but the last rabbi says you're
you're not allowed
right?
So why is Rabbi Shimon
what?
That that I don't think that would be
the correct thing to do. You want to get
another opinion
why would you tell you know they're
basically why would Rabbi Shimon tell
Gamaliel that Rabbi Shimon argue on him?
Rabbi Shimon knows full well what
Gamaliel does to people who argue on
him. Remember last year when Rabbi
Shimon argued on Gamaliel? So he would
think to preserve look you see that when
Gamaliel stood up in the base of matters
said does anyone argue on me? Rabbi
Shimon was afraid to say his opinion. So
Rabbi Shimon should have been wise
enough to know that Rabbi Shimon
probably did not want word to get out
that he argues on Rabbi Yeshua that he
argues on Gamaliel.
So what's going on over here?
Especially who was Rabbi Shimon a
student of?
Student of Akiva. Rabbi Akiva's students
all died. Until
Rabbi Akiva had to start all over. Who
was one of the five he started with?
Rabbi Shimon. So Rabbi Shimon have
learned his lesson from the first 24,000
Rabbi Akiva who they were
the same in there.
Where was this
that this story took place? Was this
before the 24,000 This was after because
Rabbi Shimon was not a student of Rabbi
Akiva until after the 24,000 Rabbi Akiva
passed away. Mhm.
This is immediately after the one right?
No.
This This might say here.
It's way after the one.
Since you started
17 years later. It's in the aftermath of
the one. I did say that it took place
one year after the one.
But
If I
Rabbi Shimon
let's see let's see.
Where did this story take place?
Where did it happen?
In Yavneh.
Let's talk about what was happening in
Yavneh. By the way let's observe another
phenomenon
how every year as Lag B'Omer approaches
Lag B'Omer is like the
up and coming
every year more people sort of jump on
the bandwagon of Lag B'Omer. You know he
becomes more and more popular every
year. I know when I was a kid, they gave
out a few bows and arrows, he played
baseball, and that's it. And now already
it's
it's a major Yom Tov, it's very
recognized. What's all this momentum
with with Rabbi Akiva?
The Gemara says in Shabbos kuf lamed
ches mem beis, tanu rabanan,
k'she nichnasu rabbanan l'Yavneh,
l'Keren b'Yavneh,
when the chachamim entered Keren
b'Yavneh, amru, asidah Torah
she'tishkach mi'Yisrael. The Torah will
be forgotten. She'ne'emar, hinei yamim
bo'im ne'um Hashem Elokeim, v'shilachti
ra'av ba'aretz,
lo ra'av l'lechem,
v'lo tzama l'mayim, ki im lishmo'a
es divrei Hashem. There's going to be a
famine, and no one's going to know any
Torah. Asidah Torah she'tishkach
mi'Yisrael.
Why do you think the chachamim when they
entered Keren b'Yavneh they said, "The
Torah will be forgotten"?
Then the Gemara continues. Tanya, Rabbi
Shimon BAR YOCHAI OMER,
TORAH MI'YISRAEL. Heaven forbid the
Torah never be forgotten. She'ne'emar,
ki lo yishakach mi'piv zar'o.
Amazing. Chachamim enter the yeshiva,
they looked around, and they said, "This
Torah has no chance. It's all over, it
will be forgotten, nobody will know
anything anymore." Until Rabbi Shimon
bar Yochai stood up, "Chas v'shalom, the
Torah will never be forgotten."
Interesting.
What prompted the chachamim to make this
comment that the Torah will be forgotten
when they entered Keren b'Yavneh? What
was it about Keren b'Yavneh that
prompted the talmidim to make the
chachamim to make this statement?
Well, let's understand for a moment.
Who was the nasi in the mesivta of Keren
b'Yavneh?
Well, if you look at the Gemara in Rosh
Hashanah with the story around
Rabbi Yehoshua, that
was gozer on Rabbi Yehoshua to come to
him with his money stand on Yom Kippur,
so the Gemara the Mishnah says, natel
makluy b'yado, v'halach l'Yavneh eitzel
Rabban Gamliel. Ah. Who is the rosh
yeshiva of Yavneh? None other than
Rabban Gamliel.
And what did it say on the door of
Yavneh then?
On that yeshiva?
It said,
"Kol hitzdafim yitz'u." "Kol talmid
chacham she'ein tocho k'varo, al yikanes
l'veis hamedrash."
So basically, it was a very selective,
very elitist yeshiva. And 99% of people
were not allowed into the yeshiva.
It's no wonder then, says the sefer
K'dai Rabbi Shimon, that when the
chachamim went into that yeshiva, and
they saw the applications on the on the
yeshiva's desk, which was probably a
pile up to the ceiling, and then they
saw how next to it the number of
talmidim who were accepted, they said,
"Chas v'shalom she'tishkach Torah
mi'Yisrael." Cuz the policy of this
yeshiva was, "Kol
Kol talmid chacham she'ein tocho k'varo,
al yikanes l'veis hamedrash."
The mar Rabbi side,
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai,
he probably had a different policy. If
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai said and felt
that the Torah will not be forgotten,
probably Rabbi Yehoshua a probably Rabbi
Eliezer ben Azarya
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai like Rabbi
Eliezer ben Azarya disagreed with Rabban
Gamliel, and they probably Rabbi Shimon
bar Yochai probably would have had an
open door policy to the beis hamedrash.
And that's why Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai
said, "No, chas v'shalom she'tishkach
Torah mi'Yisrael." She'ne'emar, ki lo
yishakach mi'piv zar'o.
So suggests the sefer
K'dai Rabbi Shimon,
Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai looks at Yavneh,
and he says, "This yeshiva, we ain't
going any places with this kind of
policy."
So he says the only way to preserve the
Torah for all of Yisrael
is we need to depose Rabban Gamliel
temporarily to abolish this practice of
kol kol talmid chacham she'ein tocho
k'varo, al yikanes l'veis hamedrash.
So he goes, he sets up the whole thing.
He goes to Rabbi Yehoshua. He says,
"Rabbi Yehoshua, what do you hold in
that matter?"
The matter matters to Rabbi Yehoshua. He
goes to Rabban Gamliel, "What do you
hold in that matter?" You have Rabbi
Yehoshua said, so he set up the whole
stage. Because he knew that this talmid
was a smart man. He knew Rabban Gamliel
would not be happy that Rabbi Yehoshua
argued on him. He already has eidos. He
knows from the ma'aseh of Rabbi Tzadok.
He knows from the story in Rosh Hashanah
that Rabban Gamliel does not condone
people who disagree with him. So Rabban
Gamliel stands up, and he makes Rabbi
Yehoshua stand up, and he doesn't allow
Rabbi Yehoshua to sit down.
Chachamim said, "Enough already." So
what they do? They deposed
Rabban Gamliel. And the moment they
deposed Rabban Gamliel, they opened the
doors of the beis hamedrash. They added
400 or 700
benches to the beis hamedrash. Thousands
and thousands of talmidim are entering
Keren b'Yavneh, cuz Rabbi Rabbi Shimon
bar Yochai knew, "Chas v'shalom
she'tishkach Torah mi'Yisrael."
It's very interesting. This machlokes is
actually a halachic machlokes.
Could you teach talmid chacham she'ein
tocho k'varo, or do you teach everybody?
So really it's machlokes.
Look for a moment in Numbers 16.
The Mishnah says in Pirkei Avos,
perek aleph, Mishnah aleph. Maybe you
got up to this Mishnah.
The Mishnah says, "Moshe kibel Torah
mi'Sinai, u'msarah l'Yehoshua, da da da,
Anshei Knesses HaGedolah, heim amru
shlosha d'varim." What did they say?
"He'emidu talmidim harbeh." Appoint and
establish many many talmidim. Says Rabbi
Tzadok, "What's the chiddush? Why not?"
You know, the more the merrier. NO,
BECAUSE UNTIL THEN THEY ARGUED WITH THAT
HALACHA. Says Rabbi Tzadok, "Lo k'Rabban
Gamliel, d'amar kol talmid chacham
she'ein tocho k'varo, al yikanes l'veis
hamedrash." K'ma Anshei Knesses
HaGedolah, she'melamdim Torah l'chol
adam, v'eintzach l'vei chachara. That's
the chiddush of the Anshei Knesses
HaGedolah. Not like Rabban Gamliel.
Yeah, but like this. Anshei Knesses
HaGedolah, but here's Rabbi.
Rabbi is redacting this and codifying
this halacha. The Anshei Knesses
HaGedolah always held this way. But in
the aftermath of the churban, Rabban
Gamliel instituted a policy of kol
talmid chacham she'ein tocho k'varo.
Rabban Gamliel felt in order to keep the
backbone of the Torah, you have to keep
it pure and clean, so he did not allow
people into the beis hamedrash. But
Rabbi, who by the way was a descendant
of Rabban Gamliel, mi'veis Rabbi Meir
ba'al hanes Rabbi is codifying the
halacha that it's not just uh
figuratively. He's not just bringing
random things. Rabbi is codifying
"He'emidu talmidim harbeh."
So we have this great debate
between Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi
Yehoshua.
Rabban Gamliel had a closed door policy.
Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya had an open
door policy.
And possibly Rabbi Shimon is instigating
this, cuz Rabbi Shimon is l'shitasei
that what? Ki lo yishakach mi'piv zar'o.
So let's try to dig a little bit
further.
What's going on in the story?
Why does Rabban Gamliel have the closed
door policy? Why does Rabbi Eliezer ben
Azarya have the open door policy? What's
Rabbi Shimon's interest over here? Why
is Rabbi Yehoshua the ba'al the the
ba'al plugta?
Rabban Gamliel knocks on Rabbi
Yehoshua's door. Rabbi Yehoshua says,
"Come in."
Says Rabban Gamliel.
Rabban Gamliel looks at the walls of the
house. Rabban Gamliel says, "It looks
like you're a blacksmith."
And Rabbi Yehoshua says, "Woe to the
generation that you're the leader."
What's the exchange over here?
So on a simple level, al pi pshat,
there's a teshuvah in the Sha'alos
U'Tshuvos Tashbetz,
that wait a second, was Rabbi Yehoshua a
blacksmith?
Yes, he was.
So what Rabban Gamliel was saying to
Rabbi Yehoshua was, "I don't understand.
You're a you you work?" There's a
halacha that anyone who's in a public
position of Torah is not allowed to do
melacha bifnei am v'eidah, cuz it's
demeaning to the position. The the
halacha is that someone who's an av beis
din or a nasi, someone who has a
position of Torah leadership, cannot do
melacha. When I say melacha, he can't do
manual labor, it's demeaning in front of
the people. So if Rabbi Yehoshua did do
melacha, he must have done it b'tzina,
cuz he wasn't allowed to do it bifnei
am. Rabban Gamliel never saw it. So
Rabban Gamliel walks in, Rabban Gamliel
says,
"You're kidding me.
You do melacha? You need to support
yourself? I don't understand. You do
this b'tzina? I can't believe it."
And what Rabbi Yehoshua says to Rabban
Gamliel, "Rabban Gamliel,
you're not doing your job. Cuz the job
of the gadol hador is to ensure that the
talmidei chachamim are taken care of by
the tzibur, that they don't have to
lower themselves to the melacha." So
Rabbi Yehoshua is saying to Rabban
Gamliel,
"Um oil l'dor that you're the leader,
why are you not overseeing that the
talmidei chachamim in the dor don't have
to do melacha? They don't have to do it
bifnei am, and they don't have to do it
The mar Rabbi side, there's a a much
deeper pshat in what's going on in this
Gemara.
So fasten your seatbelts,
because every Gemara has a explanation
al pi pshat, but now we're going to
learn the sod of this Gemara, the most
famous Gemara in Shas.
Comes the Ram Mipano. Ram Mipano, Ram
Menachem Azarya of Pano, one of the
great Italian mekubalim.
Uh the Ram Mipano was a student Rabbi
Yisrael Sarug.
Rabbi Yisrael Sarug
was Yalla boys you with me?
What happened a play last night?
What there was some kind of eating any
game or something what's going on?
Right?
So
not that I heard.
So
so the Ramak was a student of Rabbi
Yisrael Sarug and Rabbi Yisrael Sarug
was a talmid of the Arizal before Rabbi
Chaim Vital.
So we know there are a lot of
admonitions Arizal gave that nobody is
allowed to give over his Torah except
for Chaim Vital.
But Rabbi Yisrael Sarug is considered to
have been grandfathered in cuz he
already studied by the Arizal before
Chaim Vital.
So Ramak wrote something called Gilgulei
Neshamot
and Ramak says and he's megaleh based on
the traditions of Arizal who various
personalities in Tanakh were gilgulim of
sometimes even who Amora'im were
gilgulim of sometimes even who Rishonim
were gilgulim.
And he says Rabbi Yehoshua the Baal
Pluga of Rabban Gamliel Rabban Gamliel
says from the walls of your house it's
recognizable that you're a blacksmith.
Rabbi Yehoshua was the gilgul of another
Yehoshua the gilgul of Yehoshua Kohen
Gadol.
Who's Yehoshua Kohen Gadol?
Well in the Navi Zecharya
Zecharya has a vision
and his vision
as Yehoshua HaKohen HaGadol
lefanai Malach Hashem vehaSatan
omed al yemino lesitno. When do we learn
that?
It's the Haftarah of Shabbat Chanukah.
So Yehoshua Zecharya sees a vision of
Yehoshua Kohen Gadol
and the Satan is standing there to
prosecute and instigate against Yehoshua
Kohen Gadol.
And Hashem said to the Satan Hashem
renounces the Satan Satan. Vayigar
Hashem becha Hashem
says Satan don't mess with Yehoshua
Kohen Gadol. Halo
zeh
It's one of those unusual trop in the
Haftarah. Ud Mutzal Me'Esh.
And my Rabbotai who's Yehoshua Kohen
Gadol?
He's a Kohen Gadol in the times of Ezra
and his children intermarried.
We know that in Sefer Ezra we find that
Ezra came back to Eretz Yisrael and
a great deal of Klal Yisrael had
intermarried including the children of
Yehoshua Kohen Gadol.
And because of that Yehoshua Kohen Gadol
was punished that when Achav was thrown
into the fire Yehoshua Kohen Gadol was
thrown into the fire with Achav.
And what happened to Yehoshua Kohen
Gadol?
He was saved
but his garments were scorched. That's
why Hashem tells the Satan enough
already with Yehoshua Kohen Gadol. He's
an Ud Mutzal Me'Esh he's a firebrand
saved from the fire. Right that's a term
we use for a survivor of the Holocaust
he's an Ud Mutzal Me'Esh he he plucked
from the fires.
Amazingly says the Ramak
Achav was burnt Achav barbecued.
That's that's how people make barbecues
and like
Achav was burnt what?
Achav ben Kulia. No not
not the
a different one. Achav ben Kulia
a different one.
So think about it Rabban Gamliel when he
says it looks like you're a blacksmith
he's not just looking on the outside
he's looking into his soul and he sees
last time around you were you were a
blacksmith meaning you were scorched by
the fire cuz you were the you are the
reincarnate of Yehoshua Kohen Gadol who
was thrown into the fire and he emerged
but his his clothing were scorched. My
Rabbotai and who was Yehoshua Kohen
Gadol?
So there's another piece of Ramak.
There was another person in Tanakh who
was thrown into the fire
but didn't make it out.
Who's that?
Haran Haran.
Where the pasuk says at the end of
Bereishit Vayamot Haran al pnei the end
of Noach Terach Aviv be'Eretz Moladeto
Ur Kasdim that Haran died. Says Ramak
Haran became Yehoshua Kohen Gadol. Why?
Because when Yehoshua Kohen Gadol was
CALLED UD MUTZAL ME'ESH WHAT DO YOU MEAN
MUTZAL ME'ESH? It's like this
Haran was standing there Rashi says when
Nimrod told Terach we're throwing Avram
into the fire and they tell Haran whose
side are you are you on? So Haran said
I'm on the winner's side. If if Avram
survives I'm on his side if Avram dies
I'm on Nimrod's side. So Haran is
standing there he sees that Avram
survived he said I'm on Avram's team.
They threw Haran into the fire and Haran
burnt up. Says Rashi from here we derive
that someone
who's moser nefesh al menat to be saved
will not be saved.
But he did a tremendous thing he was
still moser nefesh al kiddush Hashem.
Okay he wasn't saved this time around
but Hashem says if not this time around
next time around you will be saved. So
Haran was thrown into the fire he didn't
make it out on round one. Round two he
comes back as Yehoshua Kohen Gadol he
does make it out of the fire but his
clothing are scorched and the third time
around
he is Yehoshua the Baal Pluga of Rabban
Gamliel. Again Rabbotai don't take my
word for it this is not what I'm telling
you this is what the Ramak
one of the Kadmonim one of the early
talmidei talmidei of the Arizal is
megaleh that Haran was nisgalgel as
Yehoshua Kohen Gadol Yehoshua Kohen
Gadol was nisgalgel as the student as
the as excuse me Yehoshua Rabbi
Yehoshua. By the way if you look in Orot
Yisrael Natan Rabbi Akiva Eiger had a
student Rabbi Yehoshua and he said to
Yehoshua YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE? YOU'RE
CHOD HAMESHULASH.
Secret of secrets what did he mean when
he called Rabbi Yehoshua Chod
HaMeshulash? What what what what what
what what makes him a Chod HaMeshulash?
Says the Sefer Chareidim what he was
saying to him is you are round three.
Round one was Haran round two was
Yehoshua Kohen Gadol you Rabbi Yehoshua
round three.
My Rabbotai
who was the go goyrem
to allow into the Beit HaMedrash a
student SHE'EIN TOCHO KEBARO?
Rabbi Yehoshua.
You know why?
Cuz Rabbi Yehoshua is the living
embodiment
that even if at first you're ein tocho
kebaro
whether this time around or next time
around ultimately lo aleinu ya'aseh
Godol u'Metzuyon shelo lishmah
shemitoch shelo lishmah bo lishmah. Look
at a guy like Haran.
Haran he did the right thing he's
willing to be jumped into the fire. How
am I he's not tocho kebaro he only did
it al menat to be saved no problem.
Ultimately he was nisgalgel as Yehoshua
Kohen Gadol who was lishmah and he was
thrown into the fire and he made it in
and therefore Yehoshua Rabbi Yehoshua
was the goyrem to bring into the Beit
HaMedrash talmidim she'ein tocho kebaro.
Okay my Rabbotai you in here nothing
yet.
But the two central figures here are
who?
Rabban Gamliel
and Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya.
Rabban Gamliel was the Nasi and Rabbi
Eliezer ben Azarya usurped the Nesi'ut
and they gave it to him
and then he had a sort of step down a
little bit and Rabban Gamliel took it
back.
Okay.
Yeah.
My Rabbotai let's go back
to Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya's
appointment. Listen carefully. The
Gemara says let's appoint Rabbi Eliezer
ben Azarya why? He is smart he's wealthy
and he's 10th generation from Ezra.
Comes the Ramak once more
and he says that Rabbi Eliezer ben
Azarya was not just 10th generation from
Ezra
but guess what? Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya
was Ezra himself.
He was the gilgul of Ezra.
And who was Rabban Gamliel?
Rabban Gamliel was Nechemia.
Okay what's that going to do for us?
Listen carefully.
By the way the Gemara in Sukkah says
look at number 20 Mit'chilah kish
nishtakcha Torah miYisrael
al lo Ezra miBavel he asta when the
Torah was forgotten first time Ezra was
RESTORED THE TORAH.
AH EZRA RESTORED THE Torah the first
time and the second time when the
Chachamim entered Kerem beYavneh and
they said chas V'SHALOM KISH NISHTAKCHA
TORAH MIYISRAEL as if the Torah
NISHTAKCHA MIYISRAEL. WHO RESTORED THE
TORAH THE SECOND TIME?
Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya the gilgul of
Ezra.
That is the role of Ezra that is the the
role of Rabbi Eliezer ben Azarya.
My Rabbotai this is off the charts
listen to this.
Comes the Chida
and this could be found in the Chida's
Sefer
Mar'it Ayin
one of the most astounding things you'll
ever hear.
The Gamara says, looking at number 21
for a moment,
there's a safer of Nevi'im,
it's called
Daniel. Okay, so that's one of them.
And then there's something called Ezra
Nehemiah. By the way, does anyone know
in Tanakh,
Ezra Nehemiah, is it one book or two
books?
One book. Look in Bava Basra, there are
24 books. Ezra Nehemiah is one book.
So the Gamara asks, who wrote Ezra
Nehemiah?
The majority of Ezra Nehemiah was
written by Nehemiah.
Frankly, the Gamara mikhti kol mili de
Ezra Nehemiah ben Hakhaliah. I mean, it
doesn't mean all, it means right.
Majority of Ezra was Nehemiah.
U'Nehemiah ben Hakhaliah mai ta'ama lo
ikhvi'ei sefar shmei? SO WHY ISN'T THE
name of the book Nehemiah? We know right
now in Tanakh we have one book, what do
we call it? EZRA. BUT IT WAS WRITTEN BY
NEHEMIAH. CALL IT NEHEMIAH.
SAYS THE GAMARA, AMAR REBBI YIRMIYAH BAR
ABBA,
mipnei she hekhzik tovah la'atzmo.
Nehemiah took credit for himself.
Shenemar, zakhrah li Elohai letovah.
God, remember my good merits. By the
way, if you look in the
last words of Sefer Nehemiah, perek yud
gimmel, pasuk lamed alef, zakhrah li
Elohai letovah. Nehemiah took credit for
himself. He took credit? Says Rebbono
shel Olam, middah keneged middah. You're
going to take credit for yourself, we
take credit away from you. It should
have been called Sefer Nehemiah, now
it's called Sefer Ezra. Fine.
Comes the Chida,
and the Chida says, there's nothing in
this world that's coincidental. Says the
Chida, I don't know about what the
Gamara says, but if I open up my
Mikra'ot Gedolot Tanakh,
it's called Ezra, and then it's called
Nehemiah.
So you'll say what? That was made up by
the Christian printers?
Devarim gedolim me'einam ba'mikra. It
was made up by them. But why do we go
along with it? We should call the name
of the safer Sefer Ezra like the Gamara
says. If we If in reality the Gamara
says, because Nehemiah took credit for
himself, we take credit away from him,
we should refer to the safer as Ezra
like the Gamara does, why do we then
give credit back to Nehemiah calling it
Nehemiah?
Get a load of this.
Says the Chida, based on the Ramah
mi'Pano, comes the Apter.
More of our Rabbosai,
who is Rabban Gamliel ben Azaryah?
Ezra.
More of our Rabbosai, who's Rabban
Gamliel?
Nehemiah.
Listen carefully.
Because Nehemiah took credit for
himself, it should have been called
Nehemiah first. But we took it away from
Nehemiah and we called it Ezra.
But then Rabban Gamliel came Excuse me,
then Nehemiah came back to this world.
Who was he?
Rabban Gamliel. And Rabban Gamliel
suffered the indignation of having to
step down as Nasi.
Once Rabban Gamliel suffered indignation
of step So until he stepped down, the
Gamara says, it was called Ezra. Once
Rabban Gamliel stepped down as Nasi,
and then he took the Nesi'us back, we
also gave back to Nehemiah
part of the name of the safer Nehemiah.
So you say, gave it back to him
entirely? No. THE SAME WAY MALAN
BA'KODESH EINAM YOZIN, Rebbi Elazar ben
Azaryah MAINTAINED PART OF THE NESI'US,
so too Ezra maintained part of the name.
Says the Chida, that is why ad hayom
hazeh, even though the Gamara says the
name of the safer is Ezra, we give back
a little piece to Nehemiah. Why? Because
since um Nehemiah had some tikun in the
matter of Rabban Gamliel stepping down,
the Chida says number 24, mamila we
could give Nehemiah part of the name of
the safer and it's called Ezra Nehemiah.
So it's mamesh chelek min ha'chelek
Rebbono shel Olam gave you gave me.
Mamesh um matanah te'imah.
Who is Nehemiah?
No. Who's Nehemiah? Who became Nehemiah?
Gamliel. Rabban Gamliel.
Rabban Gamliel.
Why? WHY DID NEHEMIAH HAVE TO COME BACK?
Because Nehemiah took credit for
himself.
More of our Rabbosai,
who also ex- So that means Nehemiah is
exerting his identity. He's saying,
Rebbono shel reward me, REWARD ME. JUST
LIKE RABBAN GAMLIEL DID. THREE TIMES,
RIGHT?
Look in perek yud gimmel of Nehemiah.
Do you know how many times Nehemiah
said, zakhrah li Elohai letovah?
Three times.
Amazingly,
if you look
in
perek yud gimmel of Nehemiah,
pasuk You could write it down. Pasuk yud
dalet, zakhrah li Elohai al zos. God,
remember me.
And then Nehemiah. And then pasuk kaf
beis,
zakhrah li Elohai v'chushah li.
And then pasuk lamed alef, zakhrah li
Elohai letovah.
So I want to suggest,
keneged the three times Nehemiah took
credit for himself, Rabban Gamliel also
exerted himself three times. One time
was after Rosh Hashanah, one time with
the Bechoros at Sukkah, and one time in
Maseches Berachos.
But when Rabban Gamliel was punished and
he stepped down, that was a tikun for
Nehemiah, and therefore ultimately he
got part of the name of the safer back.
Mamesh ayom v'nora. Listen to this one.
This is So this morning I had a little
chalishus hadaas,
because in pasuk kuf tes over there,
it says a fourth time, zakhrah Elohim
Elohai, remember them, God.
But then I realized, no, that he's not
taking credit for himself. There he's
asking Hashem to remember what other
Jews
did. So that's okay.
So then it comes out it's it's exactly
three times.
Want to add one thing.
In the last perek of Nehemiah,
Nehemiah has a problem.
What kind of problem does he have?
Jews who are marrying from
Ammon and Moav.
And he says, GET LOST, GET THEM OUT OF
HERE.
FRANKLY, the Malbim,
what do you mean?
Sancheriv came,
and he was mevalbel kol umos. It's not
on the sheet. Didn't make it to the
sheet. But if you if you came down to
this world just to hear this, it was
kedai.
The Malbim has a kasha.
The Malbim asks, why is Nehemiah so
bothered with the Ammonim and the
Moavim? But Sancheriv came and mevalbel
kol umos.
So you know what I want to say?
Nehemiah is Reshus ha'Yachid.
Who's Nehemiah? RABBAN GAMLIEL.
RABBAN GAMLIEL IN MASECHES BERACHOS
PASKENS THAT SANCHERIV WAS NOT MEVALBEL
AMMON AND MOAV.
CHELEK MIN HA'CHELEK.
The Malbim is forced to answer, it must
be there was an Ammoni who they knew for
sure he was from Ammon and that
Sancheriv was not mevalbel. No, don't
worry, this is Nehemiah. Who's Nehemiah?
Rabban Gamliel. The same Rabban Gamliel
in Maseches Berachos dealing with the
same Moavi, and Rebbi Yehoshua said, no,
but Sancheriv mevalbel kol umos.
Yehoshua says, no, Hashem brought back
Ammon and Moav. Rebbi Yehoshua says, no,
you don't bring back Ammon and Moav.
It's it's Nehemiah Reshus ha'Yachid.
Nehemiah is Rabban Gamliel.
So listen carefully.
Rebbi Yehoshua is the one involved. Why
is Yehoshua the one involved? Because
Rebbi Yehoshua's lifetime is an example
of even tam u'machshavto k'baro. You
could start off as a haran, you could
ultimately be Yehoshua Kohen Gadol, you
can enter the Beis Hamikdash.
And why Rebbi Why Rebbi Shimon bar
Yochai? Because Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai
needed to orchestrate to abolish the
practice of Rabban Gamliel. Rabban
Gamliel, following in the direction of
Nehemiah, exerted his identity, and he
said, kol tam u'machshavto k'baro, I'll
be coming to Beis Hamikdash. So Rebbi
Shimon had to underhandedly depose
Rabban Gamliel depose. So he goes to
Rebbi Yehoshua, what do you hold about
Ammon? He goes to Rebbi Eliezer, what do
you hold about Ammon? Did you know that
your competitor disagrees with you?
Rebbi Eliezer said, I didn't know that,
I'm going to get him, and he ain't he
ain't sitting down today.
And they had to depose Rabban Gamliel,
and they had an open door policy, and
mamila Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai was able
to restore the Torah.
Through who? Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah.
Who's Rebbi Elazar ben Azaryah? Ezra.
The Gamara tells us,
Ezra, the first time Torah was
forgotten, he restored it, and here also
Ezra is able to abolish the practice of
kol tam u'machshavto k'baro, I'll be
coming to Beis Hamikdash.
By the way, look at number 26.
The pasuk says,
v'hayah ki tishakhe'ach mi'pi zar'o,
rosh rabbos v'tzaros. The Unsdorfer
says, as if it's the front of the alef,
ki lo yishakhe'ach mi'pi zar'o. The
Torah will never be forgotten. Who's
memorized that?
Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai.
Say the Sifrei ha'Kodeshim, this was not
only the motto of Shimon bar Yochai, but
the words ki lo yishakhe'ach mi'pi
zar'o, sofei teivos, Yochai.
Spell out Yochai. In fact, if you look
at the kever of Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai,
you have the pasuk on the archway, ki lo
yishakhe'ach mi'pi zar'o, spells out
Yochai. So suggests the safer Kedai Hu
Rebbi Shimon, that Rebbi Shimon sort of
orchestrated this whole scenario to
depose Rabban Gamliel, but not forever,
just for one day. Why? Because Rabban
Gamliel is needs to be the Nasi.
But one little shittah of Rabban Gamliel
would not be good for the continuity of
Klal Yisrael. So Rebbi Shimon bar Yochai
says, just remove him for one day and on
that day
will restore the Torah and the says on
that day idiots was taught and whenever
it says by the young it was on the day
that Gamaliel was deposed even says that
on the day was deposed Gamaliel sat in
the base of like a humble student
himself. But this was all the doing of
who's
model is the middle tell me then Harvey
no matter what my trigger you're on no
matter how low you fall even if you live
in the year 2017
teach Torah to anybody.
Okay.
That that much I didn't say right so
Never mind don't need to So the mailer
as time goes on
we need this to we need the teaching of
Shimon the teaching of Shimon resonates
with us more and more the lower we fall
the more we have to read
we need to grab on to the sheet of
Shimon to open up the base of
to no matter how far we may be by
my life is of Shimon listen my color we
can all always be
on the sheet of Shimon my life.
Talk to you thank you.
Yeah.
Just the one. Okay it's good it's good
for a fact so that's why in the
beginning of the Gamara the Gamara
doesn't want to say who the student is
why it looks like it's a lot of he's
causing a whole lot of
but in the end when we see what he
accomplished that he was taught in
Israel so it's the name of the student
was none other than Shimon my life.
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