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we have an amazing topic today we're
going to discuss one of the very
well-known gamers in Shas perhaps the
most famous gamara and Chas it happens
to be one of my favorite gomaras
we discussed at pesach time but now
we're going to uh
presented with a whole new spin the
gamara tells us about a controversy that
erupted between Ravi Yeshua and Raven
gamliel now just some background is in
order this is in the aftermath of the
hormone-based tamikdash we know that
when Rob I snuck out of the city's the
city of ushalayim so he met Vespasian
and Vespasian
that he would accede to his request and
one of the things
requested was Tenley
please give me yavne and her sages give
me
gamliel the Royal Dynasty Ram gamliel
was the Nazi in the aftermath of the
Corbin and his opinion was he was
he accorded himself with great
Authority because he felt the Jewish
people were reeling and in order to
consolidate their power in order to show
strength
he did not tolerate and he challenged
his authority he did not suffer fools to
say the least Ram gamliel had a very
strict policy that in order to enter the
base hamedrish one had to be Tori
kabaroy and people who were so to speak
somewhat hypocritical were not allowed
in the gemara tells us a story that
somebody a certain student came before
of Yeshua and he wanted to know his
mariv discretionary or obligatory
rabioshua said it's discretionary
he came before Ram Gamaliel he sent
discretionary or obligatory says it's
obligatory so this student started to
instigate he said what do you mean
Yeshua said
that it's discretionary said okay let's
wait until all the rabbis The Shield
bearers get into the basement when they
entered the base of medrus the shoya
which by the way the gemara does not
identify who this was we're gonna have
to wait till the end of the story to
learn to discover who the Shaya was he
asked is mariv a discretionary or is it
obligatory obligatory said
does anyone argue on me and nobody's
arguing around nobody would have the
courage to argue around gamliel said no
no no no not me so again Leo said he
didn't take that Leo said but they told
me in your name that it's rashus
UA stand on your feet and let them
testify against you
rabi Yeshua stood on his feet he said if
I were alive and you were dead I could
contradict but now that I'm alive and
you're alive we can't contradict so
that's it
continued teaching we're gonna be sure I
was standing and he did not authorize
we'll be sure to sit down as if to say
look I'm in charge over here I'll let
you know when to sit you challenge my
authority and I'm gonna show who's the
boss and the people started murmuring
now you have to know it's not the tummy
that's our challenging Ram gam Leo but
rather the like some people they come to
learn some people they come for politics
you know some people how is davening ooh
the dress show is amazing some people uh
well the conversation during khazarus
has shots was and some people they
they're there they come to the show just
to pick up the politics so the people
the the common folk started bad mouthing
around gamlia they told the mitorgaman
stop darshaning how long will ringamlial
distress rub Yeshua last year on he
distressed rev Yeshua and Rosh Hashanah
if you remember him gamil ordered Ravi
Yeshua to come to him on the day thereof
Yeshua believed was Yom Kippur and the
year before
regarding
now he's distressing him they said we
need to depose Rahman gamliel who should
we put in his place should we put Rabia
Yeshua no he's the baumisa it's going to
look too politically charged let's
appoint
no he doesn't have this to protect him
from the Wrath around gamliel we're
going to appoint Rebels he's wise he's
wealthy and he's he has he's wise he can
answer questions he's wealthy if he has
to go to the Caesar he could go and he
is of prestigious lineage 10th
Generation of it is Ezra so he has
will not be successful in
um in punishing him
foreign
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said let me go ask my wife his wife said
it's not a good idea maybe they'll
depose you he said you know what it's
better to be a king for a day even if
they'll ultimately depose me it's
interesting he said I have to ask my
wife and then he didn't listen to her so
apparently it was just a token gesture
but not that he was actually going to
listen in any event uh the gemara
continues on that day he did not have
white here he grew 18 rows of white hair
this is what it means
that day they removed the guard of the
base hamedrish because had a policy
called talmud
kabara
on that day the gemara says they had to
add 400 or 700 roses very interesting
the allowance of tamidam into the
basement is actually a matter of halacha
you know in the first mishnah perkiavas
it says
said three things one of them was to
establish many tamidam the bartanura
says in Contra distinction to ramangam
Leo Ram gam Leo held called
agreed with revelation
the gemara continues
the gemara says that ultimately now
digamar says that on that day aguer
moyavi came to the base hamadres and RAM
gamliel had problems with them because
said no it's not a problem because ba
Sange
and the gamara says that ultimately felt
bad and he decided he's going to be
Matthias of Yeshua so when he got to his
house he saw that the walls were black
he says to be sure from the walls of
your house it seems like you're a
blacksmith and ravishua mysteriously set
back woe to the generation that you're
its leader you don't recognize you don't
feel that Sarah
how they support themselves how they're
so how they're sustained
said you know I Afflicted
didn't want to be Michael and until he
said
my family in the Merit of Hillel and he
did now the gemara says now that they
were Michael Ram gamliel
is so they wanted to reinstate Ram
gamliel they didn't know what to do to
demote Rabbi Rebels
that they should be equals you can't do
that there can't be an assistant Rabbi
it's a recipe for disaster so what they
decided was Ram gamlia will darshan
three weeks
in one week and this is what it means
to which the gemara concludes and who
was the student that asked the question
was
it was
now there are a lot of questions you
could ask over here
why was the identity of this student so
top secret that it was reserved until
the end of the story to reveal if we
don't want to say who it is because he
was stirring up the pot then we
shouldn't say his name in the end of the
story and if it's okay to say his name
so say his name in the beginning of the
story why hide his identity in the
beginning of the story and reveal the
event identity at the very end of the
story
one of the most amazing sparm not only
on lakhbalimar but foreign period is the
safer
written by the Great
Goin and Bal darshan
Friedman
Bells now he's one of the Russia Yeshiva
in the shivas of bells and he asks and
he has like 60 something mamarim in his
safer kadahi rep shiman and we're going
to be
weaving together a number of his
and further many many of his mamaram
discuss this topic
why
is it
that the gemara hides the identity of
the student in the beginning of the
story and does not reveal the identity
until the very end of the story
furthermore Why is the rashby
stirring the pot
after the rashvi asram gamlia
is
why does he go back
and say well that's not what RAB Yeshua
said I mean is that a good idea imagine
you ask your Rabbi Shiloh you go to
another Rabbi you ask him the same shine
line when he gives you a different
answer you say well that's not what the
other Rabbi said
you know that is a one-way ticket to
sure machlikas if you ask one Rabbi
don't ask another Rabbi and if you ask
another Rabbi have the good sense not to
tell the second Rabbi what the first
Rabbi said
I mean what's the what is the rashvi
doing why is he stoking the coals why is
he you know racing him on why why is he
instigating over here it's like he's
Fanning ever the Rashmi is a student
therapy Kiva he knows what happened to
the students of Rebecca shall I know
so once he asked Rob you sure what's he
asking Leo and if he and Rob answers him
to tell him
history already he knew two times
why would he tell him what Rob Yeshua
said
and not only that rhyth said let's wait
until the shell Bears enter and then
remember then the Rashmi asks again
Roman gamliel what do you say about
mariv it's like he's setting this whole
thing up
or tells us
when the rabbis entered karambi Avenue
again this is in the aftermath of the
horben when the Jewish people were
reeling
they made a very dire prediction they
said
is destined to be forgotten from the
Jewish people like it says Kim
will be forgotten
whereupon the Raj V stood up and he said
he says
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we'll never be forgotten
what does it mean that they'll be
searching for Claire halacha it means
that they won't find definitive ruling
but heaven forbid the toe will never be
forgotten
why does the gemara tell us when they
entered karambi Avenue
they made this dire prediction that the
Torah would never be forgotten
who was the Nasi in the time of the
Yeshiva the Massif
he was the one who proclaimed
called
and he's the one who fought with ravia
ishua
now we understand why this dire
prediction was made when the sage has
entered karambiavna in the time of the
Nasir saram gamliel who decreed that
only a student is allowed into the
basement and since as the gemara says in
sukha raisi vene
I see the children of us of who I see
that the students who looking for Aliyah
are very minimal
so the the rabbis said that continuing
in this approach
continuing in this Pro approach
the Torah will be forgotten if we insist
if we continue in the darach that only
basically perfect tamidium are allowed
into the base matters that's the end of
it that's the end of Torah will never
have continuity there will be no
endurance of the Torah but it was the
Raj bishita
who said Israel
oh so says
when the Raj we saw that was the Nasi
and he was not allowing students into
the basement only a student that was
that he had to figure out a way
he's gonna come up with a way where
they're going to depose Raven gamliel
put Rebel azaben Azaria in Revelation
had an open door policy and this way all
students would enter the base hamadrish
and that would ensure
so in the beginning of the story we
can't exactly say who it was because it
looks like he's just stoking the coals
he's racing them on he's just you know
instigating but his kavana was to remove
ravagam Leo because with such a policy
the Torah would never be have endurance
in the Jewish people
so therefore he started this fight so to
speak with him again
but be sure what do you say about matter
of the Rashmi knew the rat that rabbit
said it's vicious so yeah what do you
say about marief he knew where I'm gonna
he's and then he says
all planned out
calls everyone to the base matter she
calls him Ravi Joshua and the beginning
of the deposing of Raman Gamaliel begins
now we have to ask ourselves the
following question
the instrument
through to bring about
this important remedy and tikon and Claw
Israel should be deposed and we would
install Rabia Allah
into the base and why Revelation was the
one who commanded the shimer to allow
everybody everyone in
so for this we have to come to another
element which is uh
introduced to the Jewish people in the
teachings of the zaira of the rashvi and
parishes mishpatim who says
this refers to the area of Tyra called
tairas The Reincarnation where even
though it's above our pay grade to know
what the exact meaning of it is and it
is our job we focus on
fulfilling all the
without focusing on what is our specific
Mission and who were we beforehand but
nevertheless there is a
um
very rich tradition and Messiah
regarding the gogulim of most notably
individuals in the Tanakh even
amaram and even reshine him now simply
put
and he says from the walls of your house
it looks like you're a blacksmith the
touch mates deals with the following
ruling
or a Nasi were someone of public Torah
Eminence is not allowed to do malacha
before the people
you can't he can't be dragging benches
he can't be you know mowing the lawn you
can't have the god of Adar mowing the
lawn it will demean his esteem in
people's eyes
foreign
clearly had some kind of Malachi he was
a blacksmith he said I didn't realize
that privately you do malacha to which
of Yeshua said back woe to us that
you're the god of Hadar because as the
nazia degeneration it is incumbent upon
you to be aware of the financial status
of the
because it is the job of the leaders of
Israel to ensure that
are taken care for taken care of from
the community and apparently you're not
aware of this of the situation that
we're going through but there's a deeper
meaning over here when Ram gamliel says
it seems in the walls of your house that
you're like a blacksmith
namely who is yahishua
the ramami Pano in his safer Google
he tells
that yahushua
the Tana review
was the girl the ibor of none other than
Yahoo
was thrown into the fire with akhav
and the reason is the plastic says
and Rashi explains from
had a big
indictment and that is his children
married
Gentile women and he did not protest and
therefore he was punished when he was
thrown in the fire and he was scorched
yeah
[Laughter]
because his children married
and he didn't protest
and therefore says Rama Mi Pano the
secret the secret of the Tana Ravi
Yeshua being a blacksmith that refers to
the fact that in a previous life he was
thrown into the fire and was singed but
says
that wasn't the only person he was a
Google of who else in Tanakh was thrown
into the fire
harun remember avraham challenged nimrod
and haran was sort of straddling both
sides of the fence he said if avra must
save them on his side of avram perishes
I'm a nimrod side and avram was saved
soharan said throw me into the fire and
haran was burned
so harun was not really my son
he thought he would be saved
and says
haran was nescalgal as yahushua crying
godal who is the
Mage the Firebrand scene from the fire
Haron was the one who nimro threw in the
fire and because he was Hashem he was
elevated to the level of
who was the tikkon of haran
and Hashem wanted to save him
because he died Hashem and therefore the
second time around when he became you
sure he was saved but even Yeshua
koingaldo had an infraction he let his
children marry going so he was Miss
galgal as the town of yahushua
now we see from yahushua
the idea of cold talmouth
we could bring him into the basement
because even though first time around
haran maybe had improper motives
but second time around he was a bigger
Sadiq and ultimately he was elevated to
the status of the Tano yahushua
so we see from the life of RAB yahushua
that even though in the beginning
led him into the basement
foreign
now
the ramami the um
Sherman says this is the secret of what
we say in others to have nasan
foreign
Not only was River Elizabeth 10th
Generation from Ezra
and Not only was he a kohen and Not only
was he wealthy like Ezra and a coin like
Ezra but cesra mommy Pano he was the
gilgal of Ezra
El Lazar benazario was the gilgal of
Ezra
and who was
the Google of the camera
and why did Ram gum Leo lose his
nasiosai
because
just like Nehemiah
if you remember we're going to learn
momentarily
the gamara as safer Ezra who wrote it it
was mostly written by Nehemiah so why
isn't it called why is it called Ezra
said
because kept on saying Hashem remember
my merits remember my sidcos remember my
righteousness remember
so because kept on saying God remember
me latoiva he
he we don't call the safer safer
Nehemiah we call it Ezra so likewise
he exerted his authority like Nehemiah
and therefore he lost his
and just like Nehemiah asserted himself
excessively with authority and he said
tashem remember me for good remember me
for good remember me for good and he
lost the name of his safer so to Ram
gamliel asserted himself too many times
and therefore he lost his nasios
I
We Know by the way
it's very interesting
that originally when the tire was
forgotten Ezra went up and he reminded
us to Tyra he strengthened the Torah so
he could say likewise
the Google of Ezra when the Torah was
going to be forgotten in Caribbean so
Revelation
was insured that Tyra would not be
forgotten just like Ezra
and he reminded us the Torah
by the way there's an incredible album
the album says
he said that the world stands on three
things
in the times
three these three pillars were fortified
through zubavel Yeshua
they fortified avoida
Ezra fortified Torah
and then Nehemiah built up the walls
and
this is what it means he was Allah
he fortified the Ahmad of Torah
so maybe we could say that just like
Ezra fortified Torah so too Revelation
allowed all the tamida men he fortified
Tyra
fortified the walls similar to Haram and
gamliel fortified the
authority of the Jewish people the
security of the establishment of the
Jewish people
but now let's study this asks
Camille call me
all the teachings of safer Ezra were
said by nechhamia my time alone
why is the Torah not called by the name
of Ezra
excuse me by the name of the entire save
for Ezra was written by Nehemiah why
isn't it called
credit for himself
God remember me for good look what I did
look what I did he took credit since he
took credit
he lost credit and it's not called safer
nechemiah it's called safer Ezra
by the way
it comes out amazing
points out
why did riba Elizabeth Azaria why is he
appointed
in lieu of Robin gamliel
it comes out amazing he just like
nechemiah lost the name of his safer to
Ezra you hear this Robin gum Leo lost
the nasios to reveal azerb in Azaria
doesn't spell this out exactly the
ramami Pano just says
that Ezra was Ezra
because said remember me for good Ram
gamlia lost his nasios
but oh who did randomly lose his nasirus
to he lost the tourism in Azaria just
like as just like to Ezra now watch this
there's just one little problem over
here
I don't know about you but what do we
call the safer today
you call the safe for Ezra
we call it
is
nowadays we don't call it Ezra
we don't just we don't call it just but
we sort of gave nehemia back his role
we didn't give it back to him entirely
and only it's still called Ezra but it's
also called
why is it also called
because why did Ezra why did Nehemiah
lose the name of the safer he took
credit for himself
and he lost the name of the safer and
it's called Ezra
and it was called Ezra for many many
years
until
came back in a Gilgo as RAM gamliel
and RAM and RAM gamliel was punished for
taking credit for himself so he lost the
nasias
but then once he lost in the Cs and he
was punished and he asked for mahila
just like Ram Gamaliel got the nasias
back albeit not
solely to himself he shares it with
Elizabeth
so too
Nehemiah gets the name of the safer back
albeit not entirely he shares it with
Ezra so originally it was just called
Ezra and the Hem you lost it entirely
but then when Nehemiah God kapped
just like we all gets his Stellar back
he's he becomes Nazi again nechemy gets
the name of his safer back
now
it comes out that this student
although in the beginning of the story
it looks like he's just Stern stirring
the pot and a great Cinema and he just
you know instigating instigating but
look how the story has a happy ending
because he was able to demote Ram
gamliel the POS Ram gamliel they
instituted a new policy in open door
policy all the students came running in
they added 400 to 700 benches thousands
of tummy them were were added and as
opposed to what was in the beginning
where asiden
Israel in the end it was
so in the end of the story The gamara
says by the way now that it has a happy
ending if you want to know who was the
student who instigated this whole turn
of events it was the rashby
ah the Raj B up to his regular modus
operandi
we orchestrated the whole thing in order
to facilitate that the Torah would not
be forgotten from the Jewish people in
fact the
pasukach
says to Ferris schleima of radamsk the
name is
Yoda
aleph
which stands for
because the rajvi was the nitsus of my
sharabinu and the rajvi ensured
that's why the rajvir orchestrated this
whole thing and if I could add two
reduce
we could say if you look in the last
parekh of safer
which we have this to learn
when I was living in Queens we were
giving this year in Nevada on Tuesdays
this is going back you know 10 years ago
we learned together
I'll never forget it I don't know if I'm
never gonna forget the material but I'll
never forget that I learned it with you
we learned safer Daniel we learned Ezra
we learned we learned a number of the
Trey Asar
we learned to make a Las rose that if
you look in the final chapter of nakamya
one of the things nakamia has to deal
with is some
people came from a Faraway
lands
so the malbum asks what was the issue
with
what was the issue didn't San Jose come
and use
like rabbioshua says in brachice
and perhaps we could answer you're right
review Yeshua says that in brachice but
this is held
not like that he held that sancherev was
not Nevada
so Nehemiah here in Sparky
ISE who did not hold sangheraf with
maval
amanemaya and if we may add another
amazing idea
the reason why Ram gamlia lost his Nasir
says he followed in the ways of he
exerted too much authority over Yeshua
just like Nehemiah said God remember me
for good how many times does in the
final chapter of Nehemiah say God
remember me for good one
then we have in base
then we have
in possible
three times
says remember me for good
and corresponding to that
asserts his authority of ishua three
times once in Baha'i rice once in Rosh
Hashanah and once regarding whether
marav is or if mariv is
so
it's very interesting that who
orchestrated this whole turn of events
that
the Torah would not be forgotten from
the Jewish people that Ram gamlil was
deposed that we were able to ensure that
that we're able to ensure that there's
no uh closed door policy this was all
instituted by the Rashmi but we don't
say his name
it occurred to me
that if you remember in the hagada
we learned that the Haggadah was a
replay of this story
that's why the hagada for the hagada to
begin
that there's a minute
it has to be when Ram gum Leo's deposed
so that's why the hagada begins
was appointed the Nazi and that's how
all the kinderlacha allowed into the
basement but by the end of the story
we let Ram gamliel back in and he gets
three weeks and run gamliel says
perhaps this explains you know in the
Haggadah there's no mention of the
following Tana why does the following
Tano not appear in the Haggadah the
rajvi why is
well maybe because just like he's not
mentioned
in the dep the deposing of ram gamlia in
the story of the hagoda is merely a
narrative of this story so just like in
the story of
his name is not mentioned
perhaps also perhaps in the Haggadah
he's not mentioned either okay Rabbi Sai
so one of the great principles of is
that Torah will never be forgotten let's
just develop that very briefly
we know the 24 000 students of rabi
Akiva
all perished and of course they stopped
dying on lagbeimer because they all died
says that rabikiva began teaching five
tamidam they were a mayor of Jose
the learning of Torah meaning we would
have thought that that's the end of the
Torah all the students are dead
but like volume of the day of the room
yakiva
began to teach again and he demonstrated
to the World by teaching the rajvi that
Torah will never ever be forgotten
so this is the symbol of the
eternity of the Torah and although it
may seem that the Raji was stoking the
coals but his kavana was to have an open
door policy so that all the students
could enter the basement and this way he
would fulfill the meaning of his name
of
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