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if you wake up in the
morning and you're sane you have people
in the house with you you have a
family you're not a millionaire you're a
lot more than that right how many
millions would people pay to be alive to
be healthy to have
family to have
friends all of these things you know
each one of the billion things that have
to go right for brother not to be in
pain you would pay a million dollars for
each of them you could make a list of at
least a million things that you would
pay a million dollars to fix with the
person's body and you have all of them
hi guys Ellie Langer here with the
kosher money podcast if you don't know
what the kosher money podcast is it's a
show about money the things they don't
teach you in school from a Jewish
perspective sometimes our episodes are
about investing or managing your
finances but today's conversation is
different it's the view from a rabbis
lens on seven Commodities more valuable
than the thing everybody is seemingly
chasing money enjoy the
episode being a Jew awesome managing
personal finances not so awesome welcome
to kosher
money R
gladstein so good to have you let's get
right into it the world revolves around
money there's no denying that everyone
needs money to live the question is are
there actually things more valuable than
money yeah right like how could that be
how could anything be more valuable than
money you know money makes the world
tick but this is one of my favorite
questions because when I was thinking
about this I had I don't know to me at
least it was a revelation because you
could look at it the exact opposite way
is anything more value than money you
know it hit me is there anything not
more valuable than money is there
anything in this world less valuable
than money because think about it we
take money and we exchange it for a
myriad of possible things we exchange it
for milk bread bananas cars clothing
houses tuition that means whatever we're
exchanging for money we are deeming is
more important than money so there's
almost nothing in this world less
important than money actually the
question is not what is more important
than money but we need to
measure up all the various Myriad things
in this world what is more important
than the other so that we will use money
to buy that instead of other things so
it was a a reality shifting question for
me what is uh more valuable that money
now when you ask a rabbi what's more
valuable that money you know the
audience is thinking you know you know
we know what's coming you know he's
going to say all the spiritual Pursuits
and all of the values of family life so
I want to carefully introduce this
subject with an important message I
think and that is Judaism values money
greatly money is extremely
important there's a documented story
about one of the greatest R this's is a
little trivia question the rim from the
era of the middle eval era who was the
greatest of all the ram the risham was
the era of Jewish history say from about
the year 900 to 1500 approximately and
if you ask most Yesa students you know
who is the greatest of all the
rim they would probably say Thea
myones
actually that is the opinion of
theard but ashkenazim Jews of ashkenazic
descent from Germany from Germany and
later
Poland um and other
countries our tradition is that Rabin
the grand son of Rashi was the greatest
of all the in wisdom and in the number
of students he had he was extremely
sharp one of the greatest analytical
Minds in the last thousand years and
rabam was extremely wealthy he had many
house
attendants and Rabin Tam before he would
begin to study a Torah portion he would
actually take out his money MH he would
count it mhm it would put him in a happy
mood
and then he would begin to learn so
let's think about it at first it sounds
like uh a story we want to cover over
right but the Mahar Mahar was one of the
earliest of
the say of the after
1500 he records this as a legitimate
tradition that we have about rabo so
what we see from the story is that money
is valuable but it's a tool if you have
it it gives you a certain peace of mind
so now you could use that content to be
able to study and come close to hasem
and be involved in spiritual Pursuits so
on the one hand it shows the value of
money but it also shows that money is a
tool to help you get to another place in
fact if I could add you know in in
Psalms uh King David says I'll say in
Hebrew I'll
translate it's you know there a lot of
songs with that
uh with that verse literally means
God your teaching is better for
me than thousands of dollars of silver
and gold but says there's another
interpretation so about 200 years ago he
says you know when the Torah is sweet to
me if I have money and I could
appreciate it and I could have peace of
mind then the Toyah is even sweeter than
than that and I could appreciate the T
from the contentment I have from the
money so it's not that we're undermining
or devaluating money it's it's there are
things more valuable it's interesting
because when we think of money we think
of it as a physical item right that
there's nothing spiritual it can't lead
to any growth in spirituality but you're
saying that that's not the correct way
to look at money it's not the correct
it's a tool money is a tool a tool could
be dangerous and a tool could be
extremely powerful and it all depends
how you use it so Rabin by the way
throughout his discussions in the his
comments to sh to
the you find consistently the value he
places on business and how it's
considered a mitzvah for example just
you know short example the is you're not
allowed to take a business trip and set
sale uh Less Than 3 days before
because you might not make it in time or
the the jarring nature of travel might
disturb your peace of mind on chabas
however for a mitzvah for for a
fulfillment of a commandment of Hashem
you're allow to set sail within three
days of chabas RA says going to do
business deal is considered a Mitzvah is
considered a religious activity because
it's a way to support your family so
Rabin valued money but he used it as a
way to advance his uh Torah learning so
whatever we're going to say today is not
coming from a place of not appreciating
money but just the opposite Judaism
values money as a tool to bring us to
bigger and better and we spent so much
of our time at work which it it kind of
flips the script right when you leave
synagogue in the morning and then you
come to work you feel like you're doing
the mundane you're doing physicality and
then you know in the evening when we go
to learn or pray then we return to God
then we return to spirituality but
you're saying it's one fluid motion
throughout the day absolutely we've once
discussed in the past that you know in
the month of el we blow the Shar when
not before we pray not before we learn
right before we work because our focus
is okay we want to make sure that our
work is done with the proper spiritual
frame of mind that's mha Feinstein
writes this in his
respons Ra was on leading Hal
authorities of the last
uh
generation and I also want to just um
correct and misnomer that people have
they think okay there's a secular world
and then there's a religious world and
the religious world is the world of the
supernatural the mysticism we're above
and beyond reason I'm not coming from
that Vantage Point here I want to share
with you a teaching of actually we have
the privilege tonight today to get
together on the yard side on the day of
the passing of the 24th day of
el taught he says you know in the world
people think that religion demands that
we be from from
religious uh saintly no in Judaism the
objective is not to be from saintly the
objective is to be smart so whatever we
say today I'm not here to tell you
Superstition or mysticism it's a matter
of making smart
decisions so with that introduction you
know you uh rais a very challenging
question what in this world is more
valuable than money what could it
possibly be right we spend 8 to 10 of
our waking hours the other eight were
sleeping and then we have six left over
all in the pursuit of this green bill or
whatever country you're in and then we
take it we put it in our pocket and we
feel good
right like is that it is that the
Pinnacle of this world attaining that
taking a green rectangle right and
putting it in your pocket right and let
nobody touch
it so you know there's a ceremony in
Judaism if someone has a firstborn son
so technically it's owned by you know
the clergy by the cohain by the the
priest even today we have many kohanim
you go to they get the they get called
up to the Torah first
and we do a procedure called pen right
we we redeem our firstborn where the
Torah teaches technically speaking your
firstborn kid is owned by the clergy but
obviously there's a way
to have him released have their claim on
him released so the procedure goes you
know you invite all your friends it's
like another Brisa celebration you
invite all your friends and you have the
priest sitting up there and you know we
want to make sure this priest has the
purest lineage he could trace back to
Aron hen the first high priest and we
give him five silver coins the total
value is I don't know 100 bucks or
something like that and we give him the
coins and he poses an amazing question
he says and now we're going to learn
Aramaic because our very sophisticated
audience they need to know English they
need to know Hebrew and we're going to
do a little Aramaic we we'll we'll
translate we'll give captions okay good
he
says pal what do you want more what
would you like
more your firstborn
kin or the five silver coin okay so just
imagine you know you have a kid you give
theen the five the five bucks the five
silver coins and he asks you you sure
you want to give me the money and take
your kid what do you really want your
kid or the money and obviously the
father I don't think in history any
father ever said hm you know come to
think of it I'd rather have the money
for sure not by the first kid maybe by
the third kid already the father's
thinking I'm not sure any and the father
says I want I want my kid so here's the
money I'm going to take my kid
so it's it's like a rhetorical question
what would you like more well mean what
would you like more your kid or the
money so Ruderman who is the
rashash the the leader of the Yeshiva
Nar Baltimore he would say that this is
not an isolated question this is a
question that
reverberates into every decision we make
in our entire life we always have to ask
ourselves what do we want
more do we want the money or is there
maybe an more important value that we
should be pursuing whenever we make a
decision in life we have to ask
ourselves you know when we go on
vacation we have to ask what do we want
more do we want this vacation or maybe
there's a value that we need to be
looking into that's more important than
this vacation or whenever we spend money
on something or whenever we decide on
any activity we partake in we have to
ask ourselves what do we really want
more in life so there was a a rabbi in
New Jersey
a lot of rabbis in New Jersey yeah he
was counseling a couple a high-powered
uh couple and this couple uh would work
every night till 9:00 p.m. 10 p.m. 10:30
p.m. and the kids would be waiting at
the window you know noses pressed up
against the glass waiting for Daddy and
Mommy to come home and you know the half
asleep and the father and mother would
come in half asleep and the kids you
know were half asleep and the father and
mother would take the kids up to sleep
and the rabbi so why why you doing this
why are you working so much and the
parents said what do you mean we want to
give the kids a good life we want to
give the kids food clothing good
vacations good college education good
future just not just our kids our grand
we want to give our kids everything
everything but parents the parents
wanted to give the kids everything but
parents so that's something we always
have to ask ourselves money is very
valuable is it more valuable than being
a parent than raising our
children you know in Judaism sometimes
we ask you know what value does the
Torah place on spending time with
children you know do we find great
rabbis spend time with children so it's
it's interesting you know I I researched
this topic I have a friend Kenny pinu he
showed me that the
again it's his yard side so he he's just
making a lot of appearances said the
same way Judaism believes we have to be
K set aside fixed times for learning in
the morning in the evening one also has
to betim set aside fixed times to
overseeing the education and the
development of your children every
morning every evening you can't just say
well I'm just going to DAV in today I'm
just going to learn today you also have
to spend time with your children daily
you know this is coming from the who
valued time more than the you know the
didn't want to buy shoes with laces
because it took a few extra seconds a
day to tie the shoes better with velcro
or slip on okay so we're not talking
about somebody who had a lot of time on
their hands we're talking about somebody
who valued every millisecond of life but
he said you have to set aside time every
morning and every night to spend time
with your children so that's something
that's more valuable than money when
it's all said and done people regret oh
I wish I could have spent more time with
my children that I wish I could have
spent more time in the office the
brisker of you know the brisker of
dedicated 10 years of his life to learn
with his children now you know in in the
early days of the state of Israel the
reality was many of the Great Torah
leaders their children did not always
stay on the streight
Arrow there were many many very
prominent religious families that their
children because many of them gets got
swept away with the spirit of the day
and uh they would ask the brisar you
know like what did you do what did you
do to marit brisk all his children were
what we
call God-fearing wholesome and the brisk
would always downplay it he would say
you know there are no techniques there's
no there no parenting courses it's all
all about prayer you have to pray for
your children but you can't help but
think he really the bisar dedicated 10
years of his life you know not not for
his
own not to write his own Torah
innovative ideas to learn with his
children that's something that uh every
parent is challenged to really carve out
the time to to spend time with their
children you can't do it every night you
know certainly shabas weekends as much
as you can in Jud this is more valuable
than money you know the one of the
greatest Torah Scholars of the last
generation was R kki lived in
Ben and he was the address for all all
of the Jewish people for any problem any
halic inquiry any any issue and you know
where did such a person come from his
father his father rakov Isel kki he was
known as the stier
G when R kki was young the stier Learned
with him always daily many many
tractates ofas many many different garas
he learned with him hours and hours and
hours and hours and hours and you know
one might have said that well you know
why is he spending so so much time with
his kid he could be you know writing his
own books he could be and look look what
he produced you know so the real
investment the real investment because
what you're saying gives a whole new
meaning to homework homework is
considered a chore right I have to sit
and go over math equations with my son I
have to learn with him and break my
teeth to try to better understand a
already after a Long Day's Work
homework's not in the morning I mean for
the most part right so look I'm not the
biggest homework guy it doesn't have to
be you know what the morrow what the
teacher what the rebi said okay learn
this it's a matter of cultivating that
relationship regarding of course
spending time doing things the kid
enjoys but regarding the values that the
parents want to transmit to their
children so that's certainly something
more valuable than money