Korban Chagigah and Korban Pesach in Which Order and Why

we're holding now at the end of the per the mishas and the gor speak at the end of the per what happens at the end of the Seder the per goes through the seder at the end of the S is was the car and now we don't have a we don't have a last week we read in the says meaning to say a person has a small family two three people in the family and they're bringing you a carbon PES the carbon pesak is going to be left over you don't want to cause ncer that can't finish the whole car P so you can have more people join into the what's the opposite the P doesn't speak about the opposite of let's say a person has a big family so if it's a regular if it's a size that the family works out with the kazim plus and you could eat that's okay but what's if these person has a big family and these literally kazas mumum for every person not enough for a person to have a full suda and the din is you're supposed to eat the like it's on the when the mishna speaks about the the Mish says meaning to say is if there isn't enough of the car P to full a person up and says the the already says that he there's no Mish or to say the r the ra says that it's not a it's so if a person has it's a small family and you have a whole animal to Shear so then it's a but if it's only everyone's only getting aaz how do you accomplish so for that we have the that's brought a of P that's not the that we have learned this that these that you bring on that's the that's brought on y this is just that they should be more meat only if you need it like the M says that's why it's not you don't always need it it's not always needed if a person has enough meat from the carbon PES itself you don't have to bring AA SOA is brought that you should have enough to be able to be that when you eat the when the speaks about the carbon so the says what's a carbon P could be brought from what's B you bring a p from B so Rashi right away brings from the that is referring to the so it's very clear we at was eat why was not not not why before the why we'll get to the why in a minute it was how did we accomplish by bringing a before very clear what say interesting it's like a why can't you just eat any person had BOS I he a sh I don't know off hand why Tak couldn't you have any boser or the EM say if I remember now correctly it could be taka I'm remembering from when we learned in that could be your right that if let's say you had leftover other boser then you could eat that right could be if you have left over I want to be afterward I could be right is it if you have if you if you don't need it you can eat the but you accomplish it by bringing the very clear let's go into the reason why why that's who holding now more or less we're finishing the says the reason why you need is because he's we just read you're not supposed to break the bone of the I'm just going to read we saw the reason why even though we saw says maybe it's Mas even from but not to break a bone which we're all familiar with but explain what would have been so maybe you would understand you break the bone to get the get out stuff from the bone but says that if it wouldn't be you really you don't have enough meat from the car itself you're hungry would break doesn't mean that you would go and break the bone to get the meat out from inside the bone but if if your M if you need to get every little bit of piece of meat so then you eat all all the way up to the Bone so once you're eating the meat around the bone you might cause to break the bone so the reason why it has to be to eat the car is not to break the bone if we're speaking about this indion it's very important to mention the what's reason it's not to eat and break bones it's more like a du C that breaks bones eats around the bone to break a bone and us we always have to refrain and we have to act like because right here now going we went out from and we became now we became a now became so now is when the is be careful when eat the not to break the not to break the bone we eat before the carbon P why why do we eat the so the carbon P should be not to break any bones and what's about the holds that the that are by car P are also by the that we bring you which means he's also a did not to break the bone of the you tell bring first that it should be what should be the not to break a bone of the carbon p and what's about the also you can't break a bone so says that he's a between the car is is a year within the year so T says it's young it's ra it's soft it's more all it's more that it's going to happen that the bone is going to break by the car p as opposed to practical really the also we don't want the bone to break but it's not going to happen the will happen so that's why that's a so that's reason number one that we just learned says the reason why you eat the carbon why you eat you bring before is that it should be again he's not meaning to says if you're anyways G to have it is very good but the is a did in Caron PES not to break the bone however theam the rambam in carbonis the rambam says from the din of L It's A din by all carbon by allim not to break a bone it's a it's not only a din which we just said now Rashi says it's car P not to break a bone like we explain expl the says it's a across the board any carbon any carbon that the are eating like you mentioned before technically anything just make sure when you're eating the you shouldn't be you eat meaning to say is any that's eaten has to be and the [Music] EM we just learned it as well also says when speaks about the after why you now eat after because we want to make sure that when you eat you're full is supposed to be how do we ensure that you're eating if you can't eat anything after you'll make sure when you eat that that you're full already you're supposed to eat eat afterward but not to confuse we said before she says not to break the bone by carbon P the ra says he's by all him you now let it break a bone it's not it's not a it's not classy in and him ever to break a bone also to eat to and says that are eating the they're eating from and it's not to break bones back to the Kasha what do we gain by bringing before the car P so the car and what's about the same what do you mean the same pets if you don't have if one second one second I want to let me make it clear thank you for bringing the question up one second the reason why you needed is not to break a bone if not to break a bone and what's with is it's harder bones but here the didn't him not because of breaking bones he when eat it you're supposed to eat it and it's by it's by all for whatever the reason is even if it's breaking not only a that's so what do you gain by bringing a before the car so when you eat the car and what's about the have do you ever a oh you're asking very good how do you ever eat a carb so the ra says if it's a if you have if the gets a he gets 18 o steak so then it's but if he only gets a little bit of meat you know what you do says right you have to eat with it like you mentioned before you have to make sure that by the time you eat the Kim you shouldn't eat it and you're still hungry you have to BR a bigger or maybe a second the whole the point is so make sure there's make sure there's problems it's not so make sure everyone gets an 18 steak from from the K or bring a bigger so so you want to say you want to say like this you want to say that the is also you want to say asks what happened to says you don't need I just want to point out the reason that why you don't need is because how it's all over you know why the comes so the everything has to be no so of course you have to make sure this could still be you're saying like this if you have to also eat what Happ to the I think the still you could still eat a exactly after eating you could still eat the of back to the it sounds like the is brought so the car is eat that you should eat it not the you don't don't eat the when you're hungry and what's about also supposed to be all is supposed to [Applause] be in stencil he says like this this that we saw under R this din in Kim that you're supposed to eat you're supposed to Eaton is only a din on the when he has a to eat meaning to say I'll explain to eat the says to eat however SCH him for an example if the eats it he's but he's no only when to eat the the ra says not going to go into [Applause] the to eat it no there's no it's not you don't have to bring it if you're a small family like we began this year and there's only a few people and within the car PES itself these plenty plenty of meat you don't have to bring A's no what happened what's with everybody to eat the car PES so the P even though is not even for [Applause] but's no so if we stop right here just even if if we stop it's very clar as we learned the end of the per to eat the at the end of the say Rashi said say the reason why to eat sorry says the reason why to eat is not to break the bone of the Caron says we're not concerned about but it's only by car P however the ra that holds that it's a by all so why what why why not the is the general of is only a din when these [Applause] I hear what you're asking you want to say this a so that should be a to eat is it a on you you could give it to other people a mitvah but there's no just on a I'm going to say it a little B and even if you don't get it we still have CLA and I just want to go to the part twoo but on this note of the that by all only whenis the son of goes along with the same and he is not which is the ter is it's an exception because he's a but the says this is all very rashi rashi holds that even and even the B even is always always a so then you don't have this terce this ter is only if you say that only when the so you can say but the bris explains something very G we just passed now the is there were 10 things that happened on that day the day of in the list it's interesting he's actually a question what the 10 things were one of them the rivid says one of them is however rash Rashi has a different gear Rashi says not Kim explains to brisar what's the Shila between and rash is it or the we're not going to go into the but of where you eat which which of the 10us if it was K the rivid learns like the r we just said before that only the to eat only when the Mish that's when we started you couldn't bring on a it only came about now with the Mish now of to eat told the Mish there was never a to eat so one of the 10 items is rashash that any BOS no matter what even so there was no now it's true now came about but he was always a to eat has a different gear fromus to conclude so what do we have so far we have clearly that the to eat carbon either or it's a but let's get it very clear we should still be like we say the that's referring to the car to the you're supposed to eat first the that's clear even we spoke a little bit Kum we went a little around here and there but that's clear you eat first so you should eat the that's clear even if you missed everything till now one thing is clear we learned the end of the per is a s e and then you eat the let's learn together a mishna right at the end of the per that's M we're learning now we're fining up you made the on the carbon P that PS the BR of the of the the other way around not and then says that neither but what's the P the mishna you understand the mishna that if you you come to the SED and you eat the carbon PES first and you made a bro on the carbon PES it does p the doesn't P you make a br we're not so familiar with all these bras but you make a br the ra brings it clearly you make a before you eat the you make a you make but the mishna says that if you eat the you eating the P first and you made a the the of the PS the does p the is we just finished spending 25 minutes explaining why the comes first because so so what how do we understand over here that you ate the car P first and then the have to eat first so in the there's a difference isn't the time now to go on between the two in various side but they both go along the lines to say that of course you ate the first and then the carbon PES the regular s that you're supposed to do this whole discussion here is a is a meaning to say either now you eating the Caron PES or you made a br on the you made a Caron on the that's the in other words again I'm not going to go into detail the understands that you're making the after you ate it already a whole discussion but how they understand you eating it means you eating the carbon first and then the carbon P but what the Mish means that you're making a on the but not a and for that a one that says you're not good so if you stop right here it's very G because T we just we was talking the whole morning that he's a Seder you have to first eat the and then the Caron eating in that order however the says and with this I'm going to conclude the SL learns no the SL says that really it's Tak talking about the M talking about the at the carbon p and then the and that's what it means means you ate the first and then the what's going on over here he a you have to eat first and then the car that the den is he brings a r the ra a person for sure starts off his s with eating B then he eats the carbon P then z r person could continue after eating the car PES he could continue eating more whatever you want more the last kazas should be the carbon PES this isic meaning to say is it's not like what we understood up until now the whole night and then the main thing is you end off with the you eat and then however there's another there's a that the last you eat has to be because of it's true what happened was is over here you ate the first you forgot to make a br on the now you're eating the P if you eat you make that you're GNA go and eat soon again is like this how they learn like the mar explains their gear the was that's what we have in other words it's a eating first you eating the then the carbon P it's just you're mixing up in the doesn't have the like how we explained to you could you could you start that everybody agrees then you eat carbon P then you could continue eating more as long as you end off with the carbon P so it's a it's not it's but it's talking about you made the on when you're eating the the second time you can eat a could part of that so just a the takeway of the whole she is very clear the a to eat the car either it's a by Caron not to break a bone or it's a by but regardless that's why the car p is eaten at the end so you make sure that you full by the time you eat the car P should and we bring the before it's not a but it helps us should you need to eat the last that you eating it in order the the says not in order just means of course you have to start with because you have to have the car you eat eat to have the then you could go back you end off the S with a with a carbon PES like what we say it's a but we should yet this year have a wonderful shabas