Klolei HaChinuch Education Principles Rebbe Raayatz #13

one of it was a great beautiful time and what i want to say is and i said this is sure here yesterday because everyone is talking about of course what happened that you know kamehameha there's so many people when i was there two years ago myself i was uh you know by the hotlocker and um i i was surprised frankly no one got hurt i saw the barricades you know for the pressure of people just being pushed from all sides and when i had to when i wanted to exit it was so narrow and i said it's missing this you know i think you have to they have to what they have to do is they have to take lock boom and make it into a week's festival three days before three days after and like blamer and whoever and they throw a girdle and whoever wins the girl goes a lot by hammer because it says in ghazal the three days before is relevant to the lula and the three days after there's just too many people it's just too many people that's it you disagree tell me you guys disagree no i don't disagree um is it uh i i was surprised to um uh i heard a shirt that was talking about how it's the the sort of uh a yeshivish um approach to say it's really uh you know rabbi shimon is in the gambar is it torah to uh to you know to do that and then i was surprised to see that that's sort of the practice and gear i i saw from the telnet rabbit that he he was start quoting from the name and alchemy that uh he did he he discouraged this from quesadilla so what's the approach to that in in the you know the if they were able to they they went to be wrong to be on the scene and you know let's say the 1950s when my father was in yeshiva you know they would hire a bus and it was a big deal and you know and and and they tried they tried getting there so um i'm not saying there's an exception you see the the the the the play manager is dealing with it the way it is today or even 20 years ago and there were hundreds of thousands of people you know right but i i my knowledge is that see that see them if they were able to they went but but again if you can't get there it's even the rather seeing here you know it it it's it's busy the whole time and what if they have to have a system you get you get a minute or two inside and you and you go in your circle you read your letter you tear it up and you go out and they have framed him and they and their and they you know and they're encouraging people and people listen i mean this is too many people and and you want more time come a day before come a day after um as far as bitter tater so the answer to your question is no see them don't look at going towards as bitter but but there's a difference hillel there's a difference staying up 24 7 or half a night of next night and not sleeping and being with vodka you know your whole day and whole night that's enough that's another that's another that's another issue you know it's another issue and again really was it was also an issue of like um you know the kind of the sneeze and the smirsten i have issues uh the tone the rev also spoke about that you know these were kind of new new distinctions i hadn't heard before so until the aftermath of all this okay listen when i was there i didn't see i didn't see him crazy hardly any women i only saw men mostly so i um you know i guess i was there at night but you know of course if there's a sneeze issue but that's not a reason not to go it's a reason to to find a time when it's more tsundua you know what i'm saying yeah but but but but then the point is that you know it's again why this happened we don't know you shouldn't you know it's about then it's it's a situation of our own terrorist says and our own kept silent there's a time when there's nothing to say you know but we have to look for the future and and what can we do right and and also i think practically just do a system of a weak festival and that's it you know yeah and if you know listen at the end of the day at the end of the day it's all in munna right it's a munda that you believe that when you go to exotics cave on this your site he's listening hashem's listening and and and there's more of a chance your thrillers should be accepted if you don't have that ammuna you're wasting your time going and you're out of your mind so it's a munna so if it's about a munna have the same ammunition and god's gonna answer your prayers three days before three days left one other question on this on this matter are you familiar with the min hug to go uh to marone on good aleph uh tammuz the york side of the zeiture no why he left he left he left the uh instruction to do so um it's a minute that some people have i read about it in the lua and i'm that but i've never met anybody who's familiar with it except uh except a reference i think from the mooncatcher who said god lula hashem very nice very nice i don't know i i i'm not familiar anyway yeah you said you wanted to say something or some start this year yeah i wanted to say that when you said we're done when you're when i want to don't understand quiet yeah the material of storm is 44 plus the quality was 45 and and those were those amount of people that were nifter you know i hear you uh uh i personally don't look to justify people that were nifty but i hear what you're saying yes abby not going into what advantage did we do that we deserved it and what he couldn't we have to do so it doesn't happen again on the practical matter countries and religions have sites that are popular that citizens and tourists come to visit uh whatever it is so this is something when that uh we're the 21st century of a medina that has a responsibility to its citizens there's a minister of religion there's a minister of police and internal security there there are different authorities knowing that this is a popular well-visited site have to take achrayut and say knowing that we're going to have x number of people we need to have infrastructure that will allow them to get in allow them to be there allow them to get out we have i've been to the hotel where they've been 150 200 000 people i've been to rallies for against the peace process where there's been two hundred thousand people there it's the responsibility of traffic control traffic safety and someone here it's not my fault it's your fault it's not your fault it's moshe's fault it's not motion's full it's nessa there needs to be some kind of overall umbrella or a combination of people to examine what do we face how do we do it in a safe manner and uh you can't if it if if there's an indian the kid rates are the became which we get from with um yeah so little and while one can visit any day they want one can't get away from saying that people go to mecca and medina during a certain time and people go to the church the holy sepulchre and jews spoke to their own on the your side so now it's the responsibility of the government to provide that security that's necessary and if they don't a country that doesn't provide the security of their people abrogates the first responsibility of government which is the safety of the people okay uh i hear you it's out of my control out of our control let us go on they should help everyone should do chuva and um and protect their own we're on page 55 and the mimer in the essay the kids are the kids are before we continue with iciod uh someone has the mute yourself i hear background noise please that you give for someone who is sitting in the tents of torah cannot be given the same way to people who are in business and we discussed this at length in the last few classes so we're just going to go right into the next the next massage remember we're speaking about the matzah the situation that uh of the student that the educator must take into consideration and what is that base second the classification based on circumstances anima poor or wealthy or rich let's go this division that's that's that we find between people if if they are on the wealth from wealth or from poverty or they are wealthy or poor he look at this whatever says this is natural we know the rule habit engraves in each one the natural nature and look at the last words which is always important commandment as the saying is habit becomes nature you get used to wealth and money you that becomes who you are and it's not really who you are but it be it becomes who you are her girl and so too in the opposite way yes there there's an i the safeway that's noted number 37 in that line is that it's a who of another safer another safer i don't remember the author but no it's not parker for sure not yeah yeah i was wondering that's right no no no i i there is another safer i i might even have it in my basement but i don't recall the author wealth and poverty are naturally opposites in the very essence and he tells us how listen to the categories a wealthy person he is kazakh he's strong please look at note 38 to explain this bahavuto in the hebrew is a pos it's it's mentioned in tilium 52 9. rashi interprets the word as denoting wickedness other commentators suggest scheming or treachery the translation here however follows the interpretation of the evanescent there on the plastic which until it which in our context seems to fit best meaning self-esteem so that's why uh the the english translator translates that ebba's word as bahavasa is self-esteem because it fits in to the various virtues that he's he mentions now about a person who is wealthy so again aleph is self-confidence base is self-esteem expenses expansiveness of his heart dalit arrogance and ego boasting hey he embarrasses poor people who must govern decline them and he he takes honor decline them from their shame it's so arrogant that that's what he does so those are all those are all whether they're good or bad those are all middles of an usher that ever says now he goes to ani someone who's poor out of college he's weak in self-confidence nitke is shattered nice bird is broken mccovitz he's disheartened um by any self-deprecating that ever sees those as middles of anani next page 57. so we have five and five equal intent so the rabbit says in the next paragraph the ten tv natures of our series of ashinos i'm sorry of wealth foreign you have amongst them from the ultimate of virtues and from the worst of his of negativity he got the best of the best and the worst of the worst within these ten the lowest of them guru mahema are so are so worse so bad pain whether they are of the nature of the wealthy or beijing whether they are of the nature of the poor in other words within each group the worst the worst issue will impact both the wealthy guy and and and and and the and the poor person and and and so it's true in the opposite vamohol the best the best virtue of the of these and god can meet the media they are also um you know um they're me that believe me the meaning they're they're they're they're limited and they're not limited they're measured and not measured in other words they also can be used in either direction and he explains uh motherboards my take for example self-confidence in ball the tackle is the person uses self-confidence for the ultimate virtue but uses for study of thailand doing of mitzvahs and good character he need that it is a wonderful media a wonderful characteristic that will bring much benefit it gives power and strength to master one's studies and to ascend from level to level the musculus in intellectual concepts simultaneously it gives the person the ability to subjugate the shabbat to shatter or the goddess and to uh to chase away to remove esme the badmiddles the bad character traits because someone who believes himself has self-confidence it will not be difficult for him to understand deep concepts or meet this rumors and to go for exalted and very refined meters self-confidence drives you and it drives you to believe in yourself so although you this this idea seems to be for college professors or big intellectuals you say i could do it and i'm going to pursue it and you do pursue it and so too with me this where a person wants to attain a certain character trait that he sees by our great rabbi at sadiq by a parent by a friend whatever and he wasn't raised that way okay and he wants that he says this is a beautiful thing to have but my dna was not made this way and i wasn't raised this went and come to this community but he's driven because he has self-confidence he cannot get it that's what he says in this paragraph and this is 100 percent true i told you that in what might am i yeshiva i remember they were go they were buckering in the older class but one above us in general they had better heads than my class but our class probably learned more than they did why because they were you know they took it for granted they were blessed with with much better heads we didn't so we had to shake away and bake away and spend time and at the end we ended up learning more and probably knowing more that doesn't mean that they don't have better heads so what am i saying the self-confidence is really the most important thing to drive a person to accomplish that's what he says in this paragraph next paragraph what i just said to you is true if you use it to pursue goodness and things that are beneficial or more helpful him what if you use the same virtue of self-confidence yaakov for emptiness and that ever says like it's natural many times for poor people to self-confidence to make so sure you have three yachts and six cars and seven houses and all that wealth blinds them wealth is guarded for the owners but for what purpose for his bad assham says yeah i'm going to make you wealthy but because you're such an arrogant guy you're going to use it to hurt yourself because you're just going to indulge in dogs and dogs and it's going to backfire for such self-confidence is a breeding ground for human elements so here we have the same media self-confidence harmonization if used in the right way is the ultimate of good if used in the wrong way is the ultimate of bad that's the this is what the rebels said in in the beginning in the beginning of the page he explains it now in this paragraph let's continue now he says let's look at the heart of someone whose niece but right and modest hey men are miles they are of the greatest virtues that cannot be assessed to have contriteness and humility they place man on a base that's exalted in menstrual kite in humanity contriteness and humility is the base that puts man on on the highest plateau in which area of anushius menslick humanity when is that true when you use it for good things and beneficial things but if they come because someone is missing funds and money and he is down because of that and that makes him contrite and humble hey what they cause is that the brain of this individual and the feelings are stagnant for it causes clogging jading of the mind the kid with celeb and emotional lethargy so in other words the same issue let's let's talk about this a second the same issue you're innocent that's healthy if used right which is contriteness and husband and humility by someone who who who that comes to him or her because they can't they they are or they came from poverty and are broken because of it in other words if that's the cause of the contriteness and their humility it's not healthy because what does it do it it makes you feel insignificant it makes you feel uh not worthy so we always say we always say you take a look at someone who wasn't raised with wealth they have more humility we say that that's true however it does if the cause of the humility is because of negativity meaning you know oh i was raised poorly and you walk around with that mindset it's very unhealthy so it's it's a it's a catch-22 right on one hand who is more humble the wealthier the poor the poor but at the very same time if the poor builds their humility on their situation being poor it's very unhealthy hello is there a uh a classification for what i just said in in in psychology i'm just curious it's funny i was just i was just wondering it's uh i'm not familiar with one you know certainly uh certainly um class difference and and so on are talked about in psychology a good deal but i i'm not i'm not aware of a um of uh of a distinction but i wouldn't i don't have another name for it okay anyway it's just something it's very interesting so we got to think about it you know let's go to the next page page 59. now that ever takes this back and he says let's you know this is what khasid has done so wonderfully is let's now go back and think about these issues not from the detail but from the cloud from the rule so he says healthy genuche its purpose is to p is to cure to heal right it needs to heal the illness the sickness the ethical illness and sickness if one has one all the kazakh and education comes to strengthen es habrillas hamiltonis healthy effort the healthy ethical approach that's what is to take those ethics in man remember remember what he said in the very beginning is not about is not hadrocha teaching that's a teacher for information that's the you remember this is one chapter following the other so there's a system and a flow so he established that already in chapter two of this essay that uh a teacher what he calls a madrid amore is different than a mechanic sorry between a mora and a mad and a magana so he fall he goes back to that idea over here by saying the purpose of a mechanic the purpose of an educator is to deal with the ethics it's not about how much gamora you know and how much science and math you know no that's not where it's at mind you sometimes an educator a educator will use i i'll give you an example there's a seminary in in in where the educator believes that if the students are are more academically strong it they'll come around to it so she'll take in students that are not as maybe years shamayim as as others other seminaries but she believes if they're if they're uh interested in study the study itself as they will study and they're now older in seminary will will trigger something and say hey what i'm learning now what i'm doing that doesn't fit so and i really like what i'm learning and i understand what i'm learning and i want to know more about it so let me change my behavior so that's a that's another approach he hasn't spoken about that here i'm just thinking about it but oh what it says here but that is that that that um is to deal with the worst in ethics and the best in ethics let's continue so what he's saying is both need hadraka both need education but they need a different system of education that's paragraph oneness or the optimal self-confidence when it's used for good and benefit and benefit and beneficial the he metabo and this is amongst man's nature bashir who are them as long as he is man i will be examining as long as he's a man she's another self-confidence will work that possesses something very powerful let me see if i understand it correctly he says the accent look what he says here guys but eczema is essentially a negative trait traits believing yourself is a negative trait to your own don't rely um that is that no that's a pussic that i believe is a poster um yeah that's a verb yeah who believes in himself a wise man who believes himself only cholesterol is apt to trip to fall into an obstacle so self-confidence on its own he says is a no good but if self-confidence is used for toy memoir for goodness and something positive then you basically have taken something that if not if if you if you have it and you haven't worked on it it's going to lead you to issues and problems valve needs bit of a shuffle now he goes to the other issue a contrite and modest heart email is a mile in this verse when used for good things it's uh it's great it's very special omar as it says lavender it's a plus you can tell him i think 47 i believe whatever uh a broken heart with nitken and shattered heart which seems that god does not despise hashem loves a broken neck and tried our dog for god is exalted and the modest one fears but he says again contriteness on its own is tibia it's very why because man by nature he says is bala of life has an expansive heart the history has been do some and has like natural control man tends to be in control so the here we're talking about what avi were talking about contriteness knit care brokenness he's saying that's not on its own a virtue so he's reading this paragraph just emphasizing what he said earlier don't think that self-confidence and contriteness on its own is a virtue it's not but when used in the right realm and form it's the ultimate virtue volcano so that's why goes back this point the proper system of educating is to take these two character issues and use them accordingly to the students those that come from poor homes or wealthy homes or to or in other or or to deal with these issues with people who are wealthy or poor so what the rebel would be saying to to a therapist if i understand correctly what we're reading and learning is that the way you you diagnose and you analyze and you speak and you give therapy to a poor person is different than to a wealthy person if you want to be successful you can't put them on the same thing and it's very true my in other words you have these two issues of self-confidence and that you have contriteness and humility i think i said this last week for some one type of person who needs to be built up if you use you know contriteness and humility you're no not doing good for him or her you need to build them up and and and and we see this with children we see this with students so you know my parents are survivors that's a it's a european home right my my my father in particular was always you know talking about to get good marks and and it was a you know i'm saying he uh to achieve and accomplish because he lived through that and went through that right coming from from destruction to rebuild now you know in a normal situation is is it healthy to to push you have to be excellent and get the best marks and implying if you don't you're second hand you're a tear you're a used garment you understand there's no question that some of these issues were driven in into us in such a home to achieve and accomplish right because of where he was coming from so in a way it worked it worked because the setting was right for yes hello i was just going to say it it seems in therapy we often use the words leverage that the therapist needs to have a certain leverage and uh it seems here or authority and in in in the case of somebody who's kind of um broken-hearted or uh uh i know there's going to be a natural leverage in any kind of therapeutic or educational relationship because they're going to look up to they're going to look up to the authority or the resource or whatever but with somebody who who has a sense of entitlement uh based upon their their wealth or their uh their education or so on then the educator needs to have some means to kind of um uh establish their authority the challenge is kind of the the natural arrogance that often comes acro with having having status of one kind or another absolutely i agree with you anyone else want to say something about what we learned today any thoughts uh ideas is it clear are you sure you understand that's how yes yes i i came i came from a wealthy home and uh i came to my last town you know thinking i was the cat whiskers and uh they put me in beautiful new shoes with beautiful new ties and everything and wow i was kept with you and it was very difficult to to try to get out of it because when when i went into the international stuff i wasn't so good in tomorrow and because because i had an inflated ego i didn't want to go down one level i wanted to go on with with with the people and it was very very detrimental to me so so you are are you saying that but one second i saw you are you saying you feel that they didn't they didn't uh assess you correctly is that what i'm hearing you say well rather about my sister never looked and they suggested that i stay down one level which would be good for me and my grandmother right buddy in my my self-esteem right myself goes down to any other people you know it wasn't good so it's it's an excellent right right right and and you know i'm i'm so happy that you're you're open to share this because this is this is what the rep is identifying these issues and i don't know i don't know the answer i i don't know the answer you know but but but this is exactly exactly what the rebel wants with this contrast he wants the educator to ask himself is it more important for unison to be in a higher class although he's weaker in the marriage is gonna know less but his self-esteem will be better or is it or he's the type of person that needs that and ultimately he'll be stronger because of that even in self-esteem but it'll come later and yeah and this is a difficult answer but this is this is what he's getting at and how many how many teachers must be him and everyone else how many you understand this is exactly what he's identifying here and um i think if there's a good relationship between parents and and and educators i then we could have a better approach and answer to these issues that you identified in your case probably you you're on your own you know you but i'm saying like i told you with my son you know because the principal was very uh open to dialoguing and hearing uh from me what i thought it worked but if he would have been like many other principles no this is the way it is and and if you don't like it too bad then go find yourself another yeshiva so and and and i'm not blaming anyone because you know a principal and a teacher they have a lot on their plate but this is education this is education and um you know when you find a good educator stick with them and support them because it will make all the difference in in in the future you know but unison i feel that bar hashem you turned out excellent and you have children and grandchildren and you know how to learn and you have great self-esteem and you're uh and you're uh you're an excellent and you're you're exemplary so you know the fact that at the time at the time you know it was difficult as you said you came from a certain culture and background so it was it's like the story i told you with the with rabbi platkin who came to lubavitch in the 1900s and he also came from not from wealth maybe he did he came from knowing all this gemara and then he was big thomas and then lubavitch you know those things don't fly it's about character and midas and beetle so he was crushed but he stood he stuck with the program and it came out to be not only are going and learning but he came out to be a very special year so i think the same was with you yeah anderson you know um but at the time it's it's a it's very challenging it's it's a very challenging thing no question you're a very genuine what yeah i was really trying to get yeah yeah yeah okay listen uh we'll talk tomorrow everyone only simply hashem should have mercy on us and mashiach should come now everyone should stand up and never again should such a thing michelle said bye-bye