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we're on page 47 good day to everyone
essay on education and guidance
uh page 47. let's learn the kisser to
refresh ourselves of what we learned
yesterday kitchen
tap torch to the top of the page
the the best the kind of education and
guidance
it is only when it's based on the
essence
of the educated and the guided the
student
the child the employer the employee
only when the teacher when the the guide
the madrid assesses
them properly and looks and looks
for that essence then it is
you're on the tr on track there's no
guarantees in life but
you have a good chance but if you don't
look to them
who is the who is this student
what is the ma the essential makeup of
the student
what god-given uh abilities was the
student given
if you do that you'll have more success
you don't do that you'll have less
success and that ever adds
you'll actually hurt them for life
because you know there's a famous vert i
didn't say this yesterday but listen to
this and make you might want to write it
down
i might it might be in a yum yum if any
of you remember to
tell me so yeah i think it's a hygienic
too
shame just as knowing one's faults
is crucial knowing one's deficiencies
is crucial one's weakness is important
greater is it important to know your
strengths
have you come across that nightmare
anyone
well i believe so anyway
this is what i just said encapsulates
what that ever said
in the previous chapter it's not just a
matter
of not listen you know i didn't i didn't
take the time
to discover the essence of this student
so
i'll get to it another time if i don't
get to it another another educator will
get to it
wrong you have hurt the student you have
hurt
the employee and the child and the
teenager
because we're dealing here not with
knowledge and information the issue at
hand
for a mechanic i can't repeat this
enough because that ever repeats
it constantly and it's the theme of the
country so let's not deviate from it
this is not about information and
education it's not about a good teacher
in a classroom
who explains well or doesn't explain
that well
this is about middles
this is about character this is about
a person who's born like a wild donkey
as he's gonna quote soon
and how do you uproot and remove the
this ugly
character from the persons of the person
shines
and is beautiful so here you're talking
about something that is is essential
to turning the person into as we quoted
yesterday
in our share peter gimli
whoever is pleasant in the eyes of
humanity of people
is automatically pleasant in the eyes of
hashem
that's what we're talking about okay now
if you remember in chapter six uh
the chapter seven sorry chapter seven
that ebba said
that there are two points that we have
to look at to
properly develop the student one is the
mohus
the essence and one is what he called
the matzah
the matzah you know how they say nurture
show what's the matzah
right what's the situation
is about the matsav let's see
page 47.
classification of people mitsaad araboa
in yonim
on four the tournaments of four details
human beings are divide are generally
divided
in four categories four ideas
aleph liffey claus isco
based on what they do colon
either joshua they sit in the tents
meaning they are
yeshiva students or cuddle people or
people sit and learn
the entire time right if we call them
they sit in the tent of torah
or are they
men people of business asic
is business work so that's one thing you
want to look at
number two le fee matsuva
based on their situation are they
ashirim
wealthy or nium or poor
three lefire gillusam we look at them
based on we analyze and we study them
based on their habits believe have them
all humanity all all people in tafe
good habits do they have good habits or
bad habits
and finally point number four
the fema claim is this always to me was
it left such an impression i learned
this so many years ago
the first time and it's still in my head
from
40 years ago 50 years ago who knows how
long ago
if you mock them and shove them where
were they raised
on a moshav on a
farm in duncan oklahoma
in wyoming in new mexico
in arizokadish in brooklyn
or in harlem the gear catana
where they raised in a lar in a small
city
or godaila or a large city and the
rabbit says these four
things will give us an understanding of
the
masav yes maisha i'm sorry forgive me
river dolphin i'm just curious the
english
reads it's slightly different i'm just
curious you said
where were they raised in the english i
noticed as their place of
residence so i'm just asking the reason
i'm asking is because i'm wondering
what according to what you said is there
a difference
in meaning and significance of
i i hear let's let's continue and see
you're right it says the english is the
correct translation
and i use the word raise because that's
what stands out in my mind
and we'll see if it talks about it later
and you'll see why i used it or not okay
so hold on
okay good next paragraph
says these four groups have six
six uh types aleph yoshi oyo
base baliasakim business people ashidam
together all kinds all types are
obligated between this key in our midst
was to do mrs maccio's actual practical
mitzvos
and to and to conduct himself in proper
etiquette and
character middays nevertheless
they differ in the matter in the manner
of which they
which one should educate and guide them
call me flog
each group
based on their day-to-day affairs
it's very nice to say you're all we're
all obligated to learn and to dive into
mitzvos and be a mention everything
but the six groups which which i think
you see
you know you seek includes all of life's
affairs
play a major difference in role in how
how we express that
let's go next word
the organized
and the guaranteed
has to be tailored to a pupil's age
um
look at note number 29 for a second in
the english
of youth qualifies the import
of the above classifications of people
when educating children the
aforementioned distinctions are largely
inapplicable
they're not poor they're not rich the
children they're in their parents home
when educating grown-ups however their
age is no longer a major factor in the
equation
why because they're already grown up
only their general type
classes which by adulthood have already
emerged
what the note is saying is that ever
puts all six together but
as they apply to the to young to the
to children or to adults
some of the issues are not they've
already been established and you
understand
and some of the issues don't apply so
wealthy and poor doesn't apply to a
child
and and and this other issue of um
you know uh the way a person is ready
with their middle east
as a grown-up their middles are already
uh full
force but nevertheless he
he gives us a general cat categorization
and clown um an architectural
uh view of the greater issue
okay
okay wait i i know but but
here he said the pla whether the person
is now
rich that's why this
answers what moisture brought up that's
why i interpreted
the way i learned it last time i you
know let me really finish what it says
in the paragraph
is that we have we could apply
everything
in various ways to everyone but
right now right now the text reads he
says
uh the financial situation wealthy or
poor he means right now a child is not
wealthy or poor
what you're saying is he's raised in a
wealthy home he's raised in a poor home
so that's another in the kuda do be
afraid of heaven
could you hold off your questions just
for two minutes let's let's let's
let's go further see if he says
something okay
man is born like a wild donkey a quote
from eof 1112
chapter 11 verse 12 ir
a donkey petter wild other man your
volley is born man is born like a wild
donkey
okay
when you're one years old yaakov daimler
a baby is like a king everyone pampers
the baby
everyone brings everything to the baby
the food carrying and everything else
you become benched i in two years old
childish and three years old
here the child is similar to a pig to a
cousin
why the baby the child
i want everything i need this i need
this
one years old the baby's not saying i
need this it's
it's the nature to to treat the it's a
one-year-old child
but but you're when you're already two
and three
and you're starting to walk and you're
starting to talk and all this damage has
it it's like
i don't if you have a better
interpretation that's my my
interpretation
for now at least ben when you become 10
years old
coy fitz we have a word
sprint esprit
like a goat
he's a budding teenager he's 10 years
old he's going in 15 years
i want this and it's different than the
two three-year-old of course
you can't compare the educating of a
yelled of of of
of a child to another
what's an older child let's say a
teenager
what's the one of the main things the
main things of educating a child
to be clean sneers
venemous to be modest
and proper manners shalom
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shouldn't eat like a glutton like a
fresher you know
okay
and so other things that are similar
in matters that are kind of small and
insignificant
but absolutely necessary right
oh a little clean here a little cleaner
big deal
no no no
but compared to the big picture it's
peyote
but you like that term
you s
why they absolutely necessary because
this is the foundation the foundational
distinction being high between the
animal kingdom would mean ahmedabad to
the human kingdom is in
cleanliness you know make all over
yourself and you clean up yourself
and all these things make the basic
difference between a high
and i'm a dabber
is above this we're going a step further
what is that
making sure they make braches
hire him respect for parents
listening to teachers these are all
things that are important
and crucial to a teenager beginning with
his teen years
is the third stage when you get to your
bar mitzvah years
so you can't compare the that is
necessary at that time to the clinic
that was
was adequate from you know nar i guess
10 or so 910 to bar mitzvah should be
curry
if you ask yourself you have boys or
grandchildren
who are getting to bar mitzvah age what
does the rabbit see as the primary
importance avi at that time
i not just to do the mitzvah but to do
the mitzvah in a in a beautified way
behind my head in the mitzvah
not to get away with you know with
anything you can get away with
number two what's important at that time
schmidas maniatrilovatsibor
so important you want to you want your
kids grandkids to dive in
with a minion later start them young and
be an example when they're 12-11-12
they see you going to shul they will
come along not just the chakras
as well so shimira says
keeping the times of trilla not
to put forth diligence and effort in the
learning of theta
for four shminus as man keeping a time
a time is a time we don't keep a time
and we say oh
this means a half an hour later
islam made me another
very important thing is teach the
pre-bar mitzvah boy and bass mitzvah
girl
the importance of respecting and
learning
from people who are mi meno
who are older than him
and so is the meet the best
this is the style of good education is
to constantly
climb the ladder
from level to level to the point that is
appropriate for
him so in other words at bar mitzvah
at pre bar mitzvah if you suffice with
what you taught him
from 9 10 till then it's not proper
you're missing an opportunity and you're
not giving
that child teenager what they need
sorry the rapper calls
everything he just said in the previous
paragraph he calls it
spiritual ethical or ethical sustenance
how muslim do you like those words
hamazon
hamusari usually we use the muslim for
food here is using it for the ethics
hamas is comparable
to mozain hagoofni to actual
physical food how he explains how cold
you ate them everyone knows
his powers his talent system his senses
more so than a drop of milk
in sweet water
right because nevertheless
if a infant of one month will eat
morocco's
sharp soup or boss or trade in good meat
yamus he'll die it's too much
if you feed the other dog sweet water
in typist with a drop of milk
mixed in it will become weaker
it will be weak it's not enough to feed
his body his growing body
so so too sorry in the ethical food
the ethical sustenance
young people youngsters what they need
ethically
the fee ha gil based on their age or the
daily men of
based on their type right because once
you're ready yaakov once you're ready a
goggle you're already an adult
here it's more about the type versus the
actual um you know
you know all the issues you spoke about
before
all these issues are when you're raising
a youngster from birth through teen hood
when you become an adult here what's
what's necessary and and what needs to
be emphasized and what's crucial
is the issues of you know community
uh poverty and wealth and those issues
let's let's continue
just as an organized and and guaranteed
kind of
and and uh
it also needs to be based on
um types when you're dealing with adults
and he says just like a garment sorry
for me
you want to put on clothing that fits
you
if it's too short next page
li yovi to ellis
there won't be any benefit the miata and
if it's too long
you cut your body you'll trip over
the long clothing so just as garments
need to be tailored
to the person's fit and size and all
that
so too with education if they're not
fitting for those particular student and
the situation
in a lazy will not only bachelor of view
to ls they won't bring any benefit
will actually ruin him upon him in two
ways
one you dress them with two short
clothing so
what does that mean ethically you're not
supplying for him
the proper meters that he needs to know
about and and and develop
the hain and yakulam you'll also hurt
him
if you give him too much more than what
he can handle
kids i'm going to go further kids
the development of the difference
between
by adults with fema flagra it is based
on the types
of victim and by the youngsters which
eat them and the young sophia gills
based on the age let's
just continue because he is still in the
middle of a thought test
how now
he goes back to develop those six points
that's why i want to continue
the division that we mentioned based on
the work
they find the sustain the the the the
the the livelihood work of human of of
people
he listened to liam can be divided into
two categories aleph
yes who sit in the tent and learn all
that
and baseball yourself and business
people
is this different and his name
although it is not what we call a
soul-like difference commercial
it is not like the difference of the
brain
because which comes due to the how much
of the soul is revealed
where one has more brain capacity one
has less brain capacity
one understands things this way kim
avoiled to pay the gimbal as we
explained earlier in chapter three
she is calculus we call that a soul
difference but a simple person
will never you hear this will never
transform
to become a genius he's he has a posture
to brain that's what god gave him aldera
like like is customary by human in human
nature
so he if the human nature is that he's
pushed the brain is postured
he won't become a wondrous genius
but he must have seen him by creating
ideas about wonders of scholars and
comprehending
deep thoughts and mookies that are deep
it ain't him
he doesn't have that brain capacity
in lloyd that ever says there is an
exception
if an outside force that's outside of
the person
happens to to impact him through the
mileage
that's beyond the norm but that hell in
a wonderous way
so in other words the never saying
it it's not that it can never happen but
it's not happening
based on who he is sometimes
i've seen this i i think i told you once
i do a boy you know
because my brother's class very simple
guy and he lost his father in that book
and he started to learn and and and he
learns it became
again i'm not convinced that his brain
didn't change
but the diligence that he put into it
gave him lots of information and and
and he studied it well so there are
outside ulterior exterior uh
uh stimuli that causes
you know things to happen but that ever
caused that pathetic pellet it's a
wonder
in other words it it can but we're not
talking about we're talking about
the person based on what hashem gave him
what type of cup he has
there is someone who has a genius cup
someone who has a hakem cup
a bean a cup a dust cup and someone has
a simple cup
and it's all fine but that's the way it
is let's continue
einstein is not becoming a person on the
street i'm sorry
einstein is an einstein a person is a
big hustler he's a big hawkman
he ain't changing to become ishmael a
people a person of the masses
that ever says this is this is the way
we find it naturally every day
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that ever says sometimes god forbid if
someone is
punished holy see
and we've seen this too people fall
yes batteries they're
addressing this because we know plenty
of stories
of uh of boys that
weren't stretched kitchen at
one stage and then they blossomed and
you and you see them become a
a huge thomas it wasn't didn't seem to
be part of their teva
years before well that that so yeah yes
yaakov the question
is when you say it didn't seem that's a
big word you use it didn't seem
we're not talking about it didn't seem
nothing but someone had the brain
capacity and just
was a matter of you know using it he was
talking about someone that was given the
katrila
and i'm sure we've all seen that
i have a blockage with with math i don't
know why but that's the way it is
and and believe me i worked hard in
school okay
but compared to some of my friends they
got it and i just
couldn't get it or forgot it if i got it
took me much longer
but that's what we're talking about and
it's you know everyone has
a certain brain and a certain blockage
and
whatever that's what he's talking about
so when you say seem that's a very big
word
and by the way that's what a good
mechanic
figures out as well is it only seen that
way or is it real that way
what are you doing and if it is that way
their behavior modification
uh you know there's all kinds of you see
in barak hashem today we do find
that even people who weren't blessed you
know with that particular
area of seijo there are ways that they
could
go go around it and and and still have a
tremendous amount of knowledge
but
let me say this with yaakov since you
mentioned it you know
certain are sharp they get things
quickly
you know getting things quickly ain't
changing by someone who knows whole
shots
you can have a person those old shots
but he still doesn't have a chanel cup
okay or he doesn't have an amkus cup
it's a gemara that's says safari the
mullah dynasty you know it's a murder
he's really he's he's a he's like a a
a bucket full of books but really he
doesn't
he has the information i mean this this
is factual
so that's what he's identifying here
what he's saying here is sometimes
there's some kind of the does something
where even that person gets
gets a gift and is able to overcome
his natural brain capacity and go beyond
that
and the and he says the same thing
sometimes a person who's just
gotten all that ends up ends up with the
on the streets with the hermione
whatever you know
why is that i have a friend and they're
just
massive time with hulkham and he's
driving at the taxi
i didn't see him for 34 30 40 years my
heart went out i mean i was like
devastated i mean i know how much
tighter he knows
he got the smither from the heihousloyma
the highest mika
he can be he got a two dot and it can be
a rough and any
city in urges role and what is he doing
driving a taxi
why pannosa
and why the community doesn't take such
a man and put him on a pedestal
you know the answer right so
so there are many things that that play
play you know that that
take effect and make a difference but
let's not let's take to the course let's
continue inside and then we'll talk a
little bit okay
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he says what we're talking about in this
chapter in the previous chapter the
division based on
business and involvement is not a soul
it's not has nothing to do with your
soul
next page 55 53.
behavior modification the learner can
become
a and a businessman can become a learner
and you have this
mice and behold him here all of us right
i mean
okay you know what i'm saying that we're
not your chief well we're business
people in different ways what we do
and they was sitting and learning so you
know hashem
i'm just saying that when it comes to
behavior behavior does not require
a soul experience it
acquires t.o.t as we say
right sit down and just work
and sit down and learn and don't budge
and just do your
thing because
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nevertheless as long as they're involved
in their respective
evocation in yeshua oil
whether it be sitting or learning
ballets to go working
they the the situation that they're
involved with
differentiates them what they need or
what what they want what they need to do
and what they should not be doing in
other words
in the business world you have to be
careful with certain things
and in the torah world you have to be
careful with certain things
that ever says it's readily acceptable
that's called the
musculation oil that a full-time torah
learner
is superior to the businessman
although not too superior to those of a
crack
craftsman or laborer what does he mean
here
okay look at note 35 explaining it
nicely
the meaning of this of the last clause
seems unclear the
the the bracket the bra the bracketed
text inserted by the translator suggests
one possible interpretation namely
that the stark contrast between the life
of a full-time torah scholar
and the life of a businessman is
considerably greater than the contrast
between that of a full-time torah
scholar
and a working person who is not a
business person per se
why for a regular work work man
a crap which he calls a craftsman or a
laborer
like a full-time terror scholar may also
control his own time
may also have a relatively stress-free
life
that's correct and may also work in a
religiously
friendly environment in this sense then
the full-time terrorist guard
class is superior to that of the
business class
but not superior to that of the working
class
what do you think about that did you
follow him out was it too fast
he's saying kevin kevin wake up
halo did you get it yeah yeah so it
it seems like he's emphasizing here
the uh kind of the
life's what we would call today a
lifestyle yeah
yeah that uh you know that a person
who's a
craftsman an artist has their shot
they're self-employed they can
they manage their own time they're uh
they may not get so
wrapped up in sort of the uh uh
the uh the aspect of that uh of life
that a businessman would
right right and and and therefore
to say that a a a torus
a yoshi oil is superior he's saying he's
not superior to him
so so in other words hello listen to
this he's not talking about now the fact
that you learned toyota what
what greater thing is then tell you it
doesn't it's not talking about that
it's talking about the uh how should i
say this the
the work of learning toyota so he says
when you learn taylor you're a free man
right and he's saying a crap uh someone
who sets his own hours
is also a free man whereas a business
person who
who he means here not a ceo you know or
even a ceo whatever he means someone who
is
you know who has to you know be a nine
to five and make it
and be responsible to others or others
you know be on top of others
is is is not as free that's what he says
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okay we'll stop here imagine we'll
continue tomorrow um tomorrow i have to
learn i might have learned
with my cell phone so i hope it works
out well um but
uh yeah what what did you say before you
i'm sorry i cut you off the thing i was
saying in the beginning of the shoot you
were talking about
how how um a person's uh
uh not titus you used a different word
um
persons the middles are are
formed right so yeah we're talking about
a child it's being formed but an
adult it's it's it's a ready form
what would the rayon say about about
shuba someone that's 40 years old 50
years old becomes about you but
is he a child like it's that's that's a
that's a good loaded question
that requires a big study in fact i was
either dreaming about it or i woke up
about it
that uh i really want to do a book on on
on bali true value but i have to develop
the idea
um that's that's that's that's
a heavy question i i don't mean heavy
politically i mean to say it
taking what he says here and applying it
to the balthashuva
is a very interesting analysis i think
so
the answer is i don't have an answer for
you yet but you know
i'm glad you brought it up some will
tell you you me some will tell you
off the cuff they would tell you yeah
about true that 40 50 60 or 30 whatever
whatever
is like a child that's what you can hear
from someone who's not thinking
i think it's a lot deeper and a lot more
profound
because again i don't see this as an
analysis
where torah learning versus work
he's not that's he's that's not that
might be true
but not over here this is not the
context of that of this discussion
here we're talking about what does tata
learning do
to the character or person regarding
stress
and regarding feelings and regarding
attitudes
what does business do to a person in
those areas and what does
a business a and business b business a
being the
one who's responsible to others and
occupied
by others and business b what he calls
the craftsman or whatever
the person who makes his own time and to
that is the comparison that he's looking
at right now
okay so that applies also to about truth
what does have to do
about he was a he was a boy he was a
teenager he was adult so the fact that
he
crazy ate a hamburger or the fact that
he you know spent time with girls
or the fact that he did whatever he did
so what
not so what of course it makes a
difference but
but as far as experience of life
with hilo called you know lifestyle
that lifestyle is an analysis yes it
needs to take
be taken into the equation and and and
this is a very important point
especially children that are raised in
bali chuva homes
uh you know we see this you know when we
have with the shidduchim and
it you know there's a whole different
it's a whole study you know
you need you know there's a certain way
you're raised in a home so children
raised and about to shove a home and how
you know are they about to shove up from
before marriage
from after marriage there's so many
variances and nuances in this equation
kevin we'll talk tomorrow i have another
cheers talk to everyone have a great day
bye thank you
thank you thank you yeah okay take care