Kinnus for the Holocaust - Exploring the Concept of "Da'as Torah"?

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Torah we hear there's something called Das Tara we know that aside from the halacha there is a concept that if great Torah sages have a certain opinion even if we can't necessarily pinpoint what the source is that has a certain legal standing and it's binding to a certain extent the question is what's the basis for such a view we're now coming upon the 10th yard side we just passed the 10th yard side of revolution who is one of the greatest pie skim on post World War II reviews to meet him one time in my lifetime I remember when I was a bakra learning in Yeshiva so we went uh just to see Rebel yashiv and I remember there were a few people crowding around him one guy was showing him Corn Flakes one guy was showing him purchase of mezuzah another guy was showing himacha so he's bombarded from you know all types from Kala torukula and uh I I feel very fortunate to have seen him so I want to explore a little bit and this is based on an article that I saw many years ago from rabios of Gabriel beckhoffer and then and some letters that roboshov wrote that were printed later in the uh kovitzy Tyra and I think it will give us a little bit of a picture of to some extent on our meager level to understand the thought process of when it comes to piske halacha and to try to glean a little bit what is this elusive concept of Das Torah let's begin with the chuva this tube is dated 1985 the 13th day of Sivan and the question was addressed to Rebel yashiv from none other then foursome kavir Hamas okay so the caliper rubber is asking a Shayla to Rebel yashiv we recently had this supposed to have the son of the Calavera in our of the cow rabbit and our shul this was a question addressed to brother Yasha from the admir of kalav and the suggestion of the caliber Rebel was cavareva was a holocaust Survivor and the suffering of the those who person of in the Holocaust always reverberated in his soul he could never forget these uh The Six Million their cry always rang in his ears he can never divert his attention from thinking about their plight he cannot be made from them from their cry that their blood is screaming from the ground and therefore his suggestion was that he proposed that all Jewish people at the end of the Phila should accept upon themselves by saying the Posse after and they should be having to be miyached with the The Six Million did you have into like show solidarity to the 6 million who are burnt on the fires in the during the showa and this was The Proposal of the Calabar Reba at the end of Elena in the sither anyway a many sermon has the possible Israel all Jews should recite shama Israel they should have in mind that they're unifying with the Kardashian and this was the proposal to Rebel yahshua as a way of call Israel memorializing the The Six Million and the karaba pleaded uh with Rebel yes you know please share your opinion on this proposal and rebel Yasha said well you know you're asking my opinion I wasn't going to say anything but now that you're asking me he said you should know that after the showa the mem of the time gathered together contemplating establishing a public fast day to mourn the loss of the Kardashian and it is well known greatly opposed it he opposed it with great vehemence said it was wrong to do so why and he he enunciated the following idea our generation is not worthy to establish anything we are not qualified to make an enactment for Our Generation the operating principle ishtica silence is best silence means don't talk don't do don't enact don't legislate we're not qualified so that's the first point the first point is said we are not qualified to make calendar dates we are not qualified to make prayers we are not qualified to do anything and number two says with all due respect rabba I don't know what you're talking about to be United with the kadosha what source is there in hazal that you should Unite with people who perished there's no basis for that and if there's no basis for that you're not allowed to do it now you might ask well where does it say you're not allowed to do it tonight it seems like a good idea does it say somewhere you're not allowed to do it so we see it from Rebel yashiv that sentiment is not an adequate basis for policy the fact that you feel something is not a legitimate reason to make a legislation even if it the policy doesn't clash with halacha so the question is not well what's wrong why can't I do it what's wrong the question is where is it source that you should do it and if it's not sourced then you're not allowed to you know there are many there are many times where there are contemporary issues well where does it say that women can't or where does it say that this should not be done that's not the correct perspective in the perspective is not weird does it say that you can't the perspective is that if you don't have bases in Ghazal that this should be done then you're not allowed to do it that's the way Jewish practice works it's not enough where does it say I can't do it it's what is the source in hazal in my opinion let's strengthen what Jews are already doing after it's Villa namely to learn that have no Remnant and may the master of Mercy conceal them in the shade of his wings for eternity so from this chuva so we see a very important principle that in Jewish practice in order to establish something it's not enough that there's no prohibition that it if it's not found in hazal you may not do it you cannot legislate policy based on feeling even if there's nothing wrong even if there's no that says you know how to do it if there is no Source in hazal you cannot do it sure so how do we implement s I can't speak on behalf of any particular institution and I am not employed by this institution but the same thing would go for for uh something like that which is the primary reason let's say that the khazainish also opposed bad prayer as well what was the caliber ever thinking the caliber ever was a great admir but Rebel yashiv was the preeminent now I would humbly suggest that I think I can find some basis for the notion in other words let's try to analyze this kalvareba says he's proposing that that we should all say Shema and like what in the world does that mean does it mean solidarity is there some mystical concept here and I believe he is he is referring to a mystical concept and I want to share with you what it is and it's actually a very powerful concept and then we're gonna have to go back to explain Revelation there's an amazing I just thought of it tonight preparing the share Israel Jews are holy yeshu writes have a life some people they want to give a million bucks they don't have money right you have people they have a good heart they don't have the resources some people have venoiroza and they don't want so you're two kinds of people but all Jews are holy there's some people who want but they don't have now that I understand why they're holy they want to give they just don't have and some Jews have and they don't want so how are they holy they have money and they don't want to give so presumably they're not giving so how are the how are Jews who have and don't want how are they holy so tysus asks why are they Holy says they're still called holy shamas they do invite their friend by them because they're embarrassed not to so they have they give but they really don't want to so the slum of in a safer on the Holocaust called conscious he's he quotes the question of the rabba RAB zusha you ever hear the rubber of zusha he was one of the early Hasidic Masters the rubber of zusha astantis says I understand the one who wants to give and he can't give he's called kadash because he wants to but the one who has and he doesn't want to so I understand that says that he gives out of embarrassment but as the revolution who cares if he gives if his whole giving is out of embarrassment goyam also give out of embarrassment why would this person be called holy so the river of Zeus shall offered the following major uh revelation the Jewish people are one entity and if we're one entity as an entity we offer to God perfect Mitzvahs now there are two parts of the Mitzvah there's the body of the Mitzvah and there's the soul of the Mitzvah the body of the Mitzvah is giving the soul of them it says wanting to give some Jews provide the body and some Jews provide the soul so the Jew that gives even though he doesn't want to give out of embarrassment is he holy oh wait wait a second he's providing the Jewish people with the body of the mitzvah and the Jews that wish they could give but can't they're providing the soul of the missile and together as one entity Israel okay so in other words the Jew that gives even though he doesn't want to he's doing something he's providing the body and those who really want it they're providing the soul extended this further he extended this to the principle of sanctifying hashem's name he says in the Holocaust there are many Jews they were killed yes they were killed because they were Jewish but they didn't necessarily even know they were Jewish they necessarily even want to be Jewish and if Hitler would have given them a choice to renounce sir Judaism they would have happily renounced Judaism to save their skin you had Jews who renounced their Judaism and didn't want to be Jews but Hitler tracked them down and tracked down their lineage and killed them anyway so did those Jews die out says the son of a river they died that was the act that was the body there were Jews who said God I wish you would take my soul and they survived and they provided the soul of the Mitzvah and the combination of the act of certain Jews that died maybe they didn't even want to and they didn't they they did it kicking and screaming and they they didn't even appreciate that they were Jewish that's the body of the Mitzvah and the Jews that wanted to that's the soul of the Mitzvah and the son of develops this idea that when you say kriya Shima where the kavana is supposed to be that if ever put to the ultimate test you would give up your life Hashem you should have in mind that your thoughts should join up with those Jews who were actually killed so you're providing the soul of the Mitzvah to those Jews who actually sacrificed their life so I I believe that what the calabaraba means that you should say Shema and then be miyache with the kadoshim is they physically gave up their life you should provide the Rod signed to give up your life and together it sort of fuses a beautiful Mitzvah before Hashem that's what I think the calabaraba means saying is it's a nice idea it's a nice thought it's a nice makshava actually the son wherever brings down that the rubber of zusha had a dream and ticeless himself came to the river of zusha and explained to the river of zusha what I mean that a Jew that gives even though he doesn't want to out of embarrassment what I mean that he's holy is he's holy together with the Jew who wants it and the baltosis actually appeared to the revolution a dream and explained what his Cabana was and I'm sure Rebel yashiv knew that but that's still not what is considered uh idea found in hazal that we're going to legislate practice based on that it's a nice thought it's a nice idea it may even be true we will not legislate practice based on that in order to legislate practice it must be sourced in the words of that's the first idea I want to share with you another chuva take a look in number two this is crack aleph of the chuvasive this is regarding the following Shaya you had people who perished in the Holocaust they were never brought to kuras Israel we don't even know where they're buried so let's now the proposal was to erect a monument in the cemetery this commemorates the fall of the city of in memory of the five fifty thousand Jews that perish in the city to have a memorial for for Jews who Parish in the Holocaust are you allowed to do that why not what could be wrong with making a memorial looks at the question as follows we know there's a principle we cannot walk in the ways of and we cannot be similar to them you know that's very vague so now what go and breathe right Gentiles drink water they wear clothing actually they don't but you know what exactly you're now to do so the Rama says it's only prohibited to do things that Gentiles do if they do it out of lewid immodest Behavior or they do it as a rule without a logic to it for example you're about to go to the store and um a black cat passes your path you come back you can go yeah Uncle what are you doing back I told you to go get me a thing of milk I can't go a black cat across my path now why do guyim think that if a black cat grows apparently can't go to the store no reason it's superstitious it is forbidden not to do something because the black hat if that is cold following the ways of them you're over alive in the tire what it's pouring outside why don't you open the umbrella in the house and this way you won't get it no you can't open an umbrella in the house what's gonna happen if you open the brown in the house now it's awesome to open around the house no going don't open because it's superstitious now if the reason you're not doing it is because you're going to break the chandelier that we understand but if you have a if you have a chandelier up on the ceiling and a big doorway and this way you're going to keep dry it is alive the Eraser not to not to open up or there's a ladder by the goyam the biggest aveira in the world after you know woke and other PC is you can walk under a ladder now if it's a rickety ladder I understand you shouldn't walk on it it was a regular ladder what's why can't you walk under the ladder so the Rama says what things are you not allowed to do that go ahead and do either if it's or if it's what we call Mil sabalitam something that has no logic to it so says to make a monument it's not princess and it's not illogical there's a certain reason you want to have a monument to remember something that happened so at first glance it would not be prohibited however the Vilma going rights and he disagrees with Rama and the girl writes anything that do we cannot copy them if they innovated it then we cannot copy them so when it comes to drinking water glaim didn't innovate drinking what is the basic human need clothing is the basic human need any human practice you're Lata do but if Gentiles innovate and we know that it says that we have to go him are very into monuments you know you take the the curtain and you're covering the monument and everyone gathers there and then somebody comes and he whips off the and everyone goes ah ooh right and there's a certain amount of ooze you have to make an instrument of Ozzy have to make so that's this is a gentile practice so according to the going this would be prohibited however it says rebellious if not so fast because if we could prove that we innovated it then even the gun would say it's permitted and we do find in tanach we find that who didn't have children he made a monument for himself so we see that this is a concept that is rooted in our practice not only the practice of the Gentiles so yoshif says that maybe at first glance this would be permitted however there's another issue those who is who owns the cemetery The Shield right a cemetery of a city is like a basaknesses it's owned by the community and it is prohibited for anyone to benefit from it in any way it is dedicated solely for the burial of the dead and it is prohibited to make anything there you can't build an ice cream store there you can build uh anything it belongs to the community dedicated for burial and some safer holds like this and accordingly it would be prohibited to make a monument over there however this opinion of the government is not unanimous if you look at the marsham he quotes the mug in avram that a cemetery is not also to get benefit from and the only things you're now to do in the cemetery are those things that are disparaging to the Mason so you can't play shuffleboard in the cemetery but you want to make a monument and I don't think it says it's not disparaging to the Mason no an individual is okay you mean if he's not buried there he's buried there no so that's what a cemetery is matseiva is already um is a Jewish a Jewish custom it's something which is needed by the mace the mace gets a certain benefit from the mountain that's for sure okay but they have a monument for people who perish and you don't know where they're buried so so one issue is is this Gentile practice it's questionable if it's Gentile practice it could be it is but it could be we already find a concept in the Torah about Seva namely afshalaim but then another issue is who owns a cemetery there's a there are some say the cemetery is dedicated only for the Mason others say no only a disparaging thing you're now to do there but now listen to what Rebel yahshuf says says even though Realm there may be basis to allow a monument that's din Taira but does Torah ain't that the spirit of the sages don't doesn't take pleasure from this in other words you're right maybe you can Point chapter and verse and say oh this forbids it but the spirit of the law is not pleased with this practice in the spirit of Allah what is that supposed to mean if there's no technical prohibition from any Sith in that you know how to do this so what does it mean the spirit of the law doesn't allow it what exactly what is it what is this concept of the spirit of the law apparently what Rebel Yasha means is that if someone Masters the entire Corpus of the law all the so even though you can point and say this says you can't do it or that says you can't do it but someone who has a sensitivity and is in tune with the Spirit of all halacha they could sort of have a sixth sense and say you know what this is not something that in general would condone or endorse we don't we don't this is not something which fits the general approach of halacha so you can't point and say well in the 17th chapter and the sixth it says there you know how to do this but someone familiar with the entire someone who has a sensitivity to all halacha they're gonna recognize you know this is uh there's something here that it does not fit the regular mode of what halacha dictates sentence a lot of it's proper for people who again to make a monument just a monument for people person Holocaust because saying it's not against the halacha but it's not something that the are pleased with it's therefore better that if you want to memorialize people person in the Holocaust you should advise families that instead of making a monument they should dedicate something that the living will benefit from for example a manure on the shul Nair Thomas in the shul am in the shul because it is not within the spirit of Jewish tradition just to do something for dead people yeah but but the concept is so as not to forget right it's not it's not so much for the dead people as it is for the people that are living today to make sure that they don't believe the world doesn't you know that they don't forget so what relationship and he's saying is not it's not prohibited right it's not a bad thing it's not someone familiar with with the spirit of the law will have a sensitivity that this is not uh normative Jewish practice and they and better to to dedicate something that the living you want to remember do so by dedicating something that the living will benefit from and will be an Eloy for their nashama so is there anything wrong if Gentiles make a holocaust museum no it's a good thing is there should there be like a monument in a shul for Holocaust Survivors if you would ask me I would say better that's dedicate a a narrow that the living benefit from or slurum or something that the living uh gained from but just the monument or a memorial or flowers foreign it's something that those who are sensitive to the spirit of the law they would have an intuition this is not what is recommended so we see there's something there's there's the strict legal technical requirements or prohibitions and then there's a certain Das of the Torah where a person should be sensitive okay is what I'm doing also within the expectations of of those who who are sensitive to the spirit of the law I want to share with you one more issue and this is a fascinating uh subject this this issue appeared in a Torah Journal called and it was a letter that Revelation wrote on Zion Thomas a month after he wrote the chuva regarding in response to the calavereba whether you should say Shema Israel after Dominic so if I were to ask yasuf says Singh after davening to remember and bad idea making a monument in a cemetery for Holocaust Survivors uh bad idea what's wrong with saying Shema in our generation we're not capable of legislation so they asked about yourself I want to ask you what would you think Rebel yasuf said this is a month after Elisha responded to the calibareba now is there anything wrong with saying Shema if I wanted to say Shema after davanni could I why not it's Torah what could be wrong with telling people Everyone let's get together and say a posse not really I said you can't do that so they asked about yashiv and it was brought it was brought up you know can we legislate to say certain prayers let's say sure models so again nobody ever legislated that you should that after every single Fila every shul should say someone happens to be sick you'll add a Davin for someone who's sick you know we don't say it every single day on the ninth day of Sivan um well we also got the following letter and he was founded as follows Tish above is coming up we mourn many tragedies on Tish above some great rabbanim composed kinos to recite on Tish above as we know you look in the art scroll Kenneth you have a Kina from Schwab the Baba varaba others so they asked Rebel Yosef is this a good idea to recite akinah to commemorate those who perished in the Holocaust what would you think Revelation said what would you think based on what we learned so far no it can't do it how could you legislate in our generation any kind of nutrila who are we to to to to uh make any kind of ruling responded this is very correct and important let's follow in the Paradigm of the earlier Generations who in in the year um 1096 tatnu in the year of the Crusades they composed uh kinus for the Crusades for the destruction of the Rhineland and therefore says it's an excellent idea that should say echina to commemorate the Holocaust however Abu yashiv says it's going to be very unlikely that one Rabbi will compose a kinna and every single kahila will say that kinna so each shul and each kahila should say the kinna that works for them that resonates with them that's meaningful to them and we'll all say that cannot until the great day that the same that the fast of Tish above is transformed into a yamta for Kalisa that was the view of rebel yashif Shema bad idea Monument for the Holocaust bad idea for the Holocaust good idea does that seem consistent was very unhappy with this ruling and by the levia of the stipler and Berman said over um Berman said to Rebel Yash of son you know is fuming and it's it's very possible at the lavalia today at the staple of zavaya that's what he's going to talk about more than the stapler he's going to talk about how the destruction of the Jewish people is these who are instituting akina to say about the Holocaust and I don't know I think Rib Shack is going to hold himself back because because your father Abu yahshev you know endorsed it but I don't know how much longer of shakh is going to hold it in and sure enough at the levia the stipler if shock didn't say anything whatever seven days later they had a yam hazy Quran for the stipler and panovic and RAB Shack got up to the podium to the bhima and he says I am compelled to publicly speak out against what's taking place Jews are making new takanois and nutrila is you know what I have to say oh added another word oh this is the destruction of the Jewish people today they're going to Institute akinah tomorrow you know uh prayer group and the next day it's all over we're not able to enact anything we can only follow what our forefathers did we can't even add one letter agree they're all wrong a reason why okay so let's see now I don't know why he he said it was okay yeah a little while later son's grandson visited his grandson to visit and revelation's Grandson was asked to show up the letter Rebel yashiv wrote to the Calavera Maize he's not a new Vogue innovator look the admirer of Khalif he just wanted to establish the recitation of Shema Israel what could be more harmless than saying and that Rebel yahshuf said is not allowed so obviously is also a Vanguard of Jewish tradition but does he allowed so the question is you know like so what's the difference um so says grandson Maize agrees with Europe that we're not able to innovate however my zaida's sack was based on a very excellent precedent and the president is as follows what's the first thing we do every morning when we wake up even before we watched negovasa we say we say by the way you know that women don't say foreign Ani who wrote my Danny do you know that maida Ani is a very recent Villa it was written by a student at Ariza named moisha he wrote a safer called say there I had this class we were driving in the North and my wife says what's what's that cover over there and I said well and I see the cedar higham so we stopped the bus at a bus I was speaking on a trip to the north this wasn't one of the planned crime we stopped the bus we all got out and beautiful cover coming out of his cover is a spring of Miami so I said you know the author of ani has unlimited nagelmaster at all times you know but in any event he writes what should he do on Tish above 400 years now yeah very recent as in terms of Thriller until then nobody said anything no they said um it's very cold in here no I don't know and then uh this this is the tail maidani now they say the hayam writes what should you do on tishovas you look at number eight you sit on the ground like a mourner you take off your shoes you accept the fast you accept the Avail us you go to the basic knesses you sit in by the mourners or you you um you change your seat to a more degrading spot and you sit silent you read kinos or things that awaken sorrow and you cry over the Corn based on mikdash and you cry over the the SL the slaying of many and children and those who know how to whale should well if you know lament what kind of Kenneth whether they're written in a book or what you wrote yourself so say kinos that are either legislated or that you wrote um there's a mitzvah for every individual to compose Kenneth it will be considered a righteousness to him you'll be considered from the mourners of Jerusalem and if you're not capable of riding kiddos so say the art scroll and the art school already has 45 kenneths but that's for people who don't know how to write their own kindness you know how to write your own kiddos go for it it's a Mitzvah to do it I'm not innovating by saying that it's all right to have to sit recite kindness that were composed by Schwab and the Bob of areba and rabbusner to say that I am 400 years ago already he wrote that it's a mitzvah for every individual to write Guinness we cannot innovate we cannot add to the savior of tefila but Kenneth we already have from many hundreds of years ago that this is a admirable thing to do Julia what no sir Robert is invoking this I mean yes no so this was plus by the way there's an interesting Rashi in the very high yamim that one yoshio Hama remember Joshua was the king who inspired a nationwide chuva movement he grew up and at a young age he came to believe in the Torah and then unfortunately he was slain in war um shot his body with 300 arrows and they made a takana Rashi says that any time there is a difficulty for the Jewish people that we should any any tragedy that we lament along with it we Lament The Tragedy of the death of Yosh and says that Rashi similar to what we do on Tish above that we mentioned the kinos for those who perished during the Crusades along with the other tragedies of Tish above so similar to that whenever we have tragedy we mentioned the tragedy of yoshio hamillah so again from here we see that when it comes to kinos it's given to us that we could add tragedies that are personal to us respond when he heard the said that everyone should compose their own Guinness he was silent so Robert yasu's grandson is walking down the steps all of a sudden in front of the windows come back come back so they told revelation's grandson that their Shaq wants you back so he came running back and raft said that everyone should compose their own kinna what that means is everyone should compose their own kinna and everyone should say it to themselves but not to legislate that this is everyone we're now going to recite you know your uncle Barrel's uh nursery rhyme kinna that he wrote you know in second grade so says says I know they say their hayam says I want to compose their own kinner but he never says we should legislate that can I so how could Rebel Yosef say that everyone should say a Kenneth for the Holocaust never said that every show should say the same kinna but we also didn't say everyone has to say Schwab's kinna everyone has to say every kahila could do what they want and with Shaq says I hear so it seems like they came to some kind of consensus that you can have it that okay first we're going to say that cannot that was written by bless then we're going to say the kinna written by the reshinam then we're going to say from you that Levi and then Kino number 46 is no is saying that it's appropriate to mourn the Holocaust on Tish above and each killer should pick a Kino that's that works for them but there's no uniform that's why in uh in our shul it depends on the year some years will say the above sometimes Vice Mandel there have been times we've said both there have been times of running late I'll just speak about the Holocaust and we can't but you know there's no policy it's not a said policy that's the only thing so it comes out and and what we're learning is that there's a certain sensitivity that the post can have specifically to the weakness of Our Generation that like the Khazana says for Our Generation the operating principle is silence and even to Institute that every show should say Shema you saw what could be wrong with saying Shema it's not correct and even a great personality kavareba you know perhaps felt that it was okay but no halachically it is not endorsed and even to make a monument for the Holocaust even though we can't say it's prohibited according to letter of the law but it's according to das Torah in ruach better to do something that the living benefit from by the way so you say but many schools have a Holocaust Memorial yeah so I said yeah because that's something the living benefit from why because the guy who donated it gave a hundred thousand dollars for the metal slab that cost four hundred dollars so that hanzan went to build the shul so the living benefited from it right but but conceptually it seems like Revelation is of the opinion monuments are not really a Jewish thing you know we're not going to protest it's not prohibited but it's not a fundamentally but even to go as so far as to say like who would have imagined what could possibly be lacking and reciting echina for the Holocaust RAB Shack did not go for it right and even Rebel yashiv who allowed it but it's only allowed in the context of every kahila should say something that's that resonates with them but not to legislate that everyone has to say one specific henna but um friends the idea that in our generation were not able to legislate this is all part of the Corbin of how weak and how small that we've become one of the reasons was not in favor of any added Felice is he felt it was insulting to earlier Generations who the composers of the Phila were men of divine inspiration people that people had prophecy who they recognized how each word effectuates in the heavens and what now in our generation we're just gonna like have a eloquent writer write something up and and we're going to stick it we're going to stick in basically a amateur prayer in middle of uh these prayers that literally shake the heavens it's sort of insulting and it shows a lack of appreciation for the power of our regular Felice but be it as a mate this was the the thinking process of Rebel yashiv that there's there's certain things that are not us but nevertheless what we learned a few very important principles it's not enough to say that something is Usher in other words not not only something which goes against prohibited even something that has no basis and hazal is not allowed to be instituted like saying the Shema like making a monument however when it comes to the king of santisra of since there's precedent based on the fact that they say that I am already writes that each person should compose their own Fila there's basis for each to do something according to what what works for that particular we should all be to the return of uh the return of all the great leaders of the Jewish people who were capable of making real legislation and business Hashem with the coming of mashiach we won't have to say any of the kinos and we should only have uh yeah you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com