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Kiddush on Shabbat - Part 3 - Rabbi Reuven Lauffer
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okay so yeah actually yesterday we
started talking about we got sidetracked
strangely enough but we started talking
about the minimum the minimum amount of
wine that you need to drink in order to
fulfill the obligation for kiddush till
we spoke about camel oi look ma writing
remember that was that's a cheap fools
worth of liquid however the the accepted
illogic norm is to drink a reverse ravie
it a revered is between three point
three and five fluid ounces depending on
which opinion you follow of three
different opinions mainstream opinions
one is the opinion of crime know who is
the that's the smallest amount and then
there's the opinion of the reb moshe
fine sheen and then the opinion of the
car donation the opinion of con which is
normally the most the most so it's
anything between three point three and
five fluid ounces and that is normally
the norm right that's normally the
minimum amount that's required to drink
okay let's have a look at let's have a
look at making kiddush over something
other than wine we spoke about this
shabbos morning in many communities
you'll find people making kiddush over
all kinds of things well be actually
we're going to CD response this is a
problem with vodka you know hard hard
liquor you know vodka whiskey all those
kinds of things where it's not so simple
to drink the required amount so we're
going to see it's a little bit of a
problem in theory what you need is you
need a cup which can hold at least a
reviews of liquid now what's a Revere's
like we said anything between three
point three and five fluid ounces now
that's a that's you know when you're
when you're talking about whiskey that's
a lot i I'm not safe for my vision I
didn't ask anyone I just said that it's
a lot that's all okay let's have a look
and see what we've got so are you are
you supposed to be making kiddush on
showers morning of whiskey or vodka so
first of all you know like a penis was
making kiddie show or wine right
secondly it supposed to be in a cup
which can hold at least three point
three if not five fluid ounces now like
I said before before we were so rudely
interrupted that's a lot for whiskey
right that's a statement of facts a
definitive statement that's it that's a
lot so whatever okay so the thing is
like this if you belong to a community
where everybody makes kiddush over
whiskey or vodka then it's ok to carry
on doing it but if that's not your if
that's not your custom then you really
shouldn't do it what if you don't want
if you don't have wine so you need to
use something called karma ha Medina
what is come on Medina so it's a little
bit difficult to define some are camara
ha Medina is the liquid the drink of the
country that you live in now let's go
back a little bit right before the
advent of pop and let's just go back to
you know it's go back like a hundred
years or something so Hammer hammer
dinner would be something like very
often it was beer right sometimes it
could be considered to be milk yeah I
don't have you ever seen sometimes when
I was a kid growing up sometimes have
jolla was made over milk it's going to
be a camera and medinah in England but
beer beer definitely was a year was an
option the problem is exist now now that
we at you know something but there is
there is an opinion that it might it's
possible that perhaps orange juice fresh
orange juice is a a year in
israel any way up until not very long
ago when i when i first came to Israel
you know 30 something years ago so
orange is fresh orange juice was like a
pretty standard drink you know first we
had on every every street corner there
were people who are squeezing oranges
and you could just buy it but it was
everywhere right so come out again today
Hammer hammer dinner is something which
is very difficult to define right what
would it what is a national beverage
today I'm not sure it's coca-cola in
America is coca-cola or national
beverage well I think you know I think
that it
is but politically it's going to be a
problem to use coca-cola so I know I
don't really know I'm seriously huh
because again how mama dinner is
something was supposed to be established
I I don't know right is coca-cola the
established drink of the United States
this is oh so here right so maybe maybe
the idea of using whiskey or using vodka
maybe that really is a you know I've got
something which is basis because you
know I heard from the rabbi's down in
monsey that like what say you don't have
wine or what sits at all which holiday
is it were you're not supposed to really
drink wine don't use like you know if
you have vodka if you have a liquor and
a beer don't use the liquor before the
beer because as like a bigger not that
it's like more I don't know how to
explain why looking yeah it has a bigger
like I guess some more a higher
authority than over beer bottle I don't
I've never heard anything like that
before right that's really I tell you
more than that it's kind of it's kind of
bizarre because in the Talmud they had a
drink which was beer like it was some
kind of fermented you know fermented
grain of some kind and it was drunk like
beer and they had wine but there's very
little talk inside of the Talmud of you
know of other alcoholic substances which
probably i'm sure they probably did
exist in those days but no call my aunt
wanted
today so I think I I think like this I I
think like this I I think again if you
want to make kiddush on Chavez morning
the best thing to use his wine or grape
juice like we spoke about my grape juice
is also good if you don't have whining
you don't have grape juice then you know
what can you use so if like I said if
your custom is that in your community is
to use whiskey or vodka then go ahead
make waking shovel whiskey or vodka and
if not then you need to sort of look
around a little bit for what's called
this hammer hammer Dina right which is
the national drink of the of whatever
whatever country it is that you come
from so again I come from England and I
imagine that beer beer is definitely a
national drink over there over tea I've
you know and cashin maybe maybe tea
maybe tickle something uses the national
would be beer island is probably yes I
don't know Guinness Guinness oh well you
know that a violent los scotland ireland
yeah I drank Guinness once in my life
that was more than enough to horrible
the when you were doing this for more of
a medida will be same shampoo you would
make shock oh right so if you're making
a you know if you making it over whiskey
or making it over vodka making love our
issues whatever it is right you would
make sure iconia be the law you wouldn't
make boy pure gift and because you're
not you're not drinking wine I heard a
fascinating idea once from from Reb
Mendel Weinbach safe italic we live rock
alert the late rochev overhearing on
some hacks who said like this he says
every country's got its own national
drink I feel like I said where I come
from it's beer you know you go up north
in England and you get to Scotland it's
whiskey you go across a channel you're
going to France its wine we move up into
that into the northern countries and you
end up with things like vodka and and
schnapps and and all kinds of you know
kinds of like slivovitz and but the
National the National drink'll America
is coca-cola they said it's interesting
right because why is that he says
because alcohol you know you can get a
real kick out of our goal right but the
first taste of alcohol is pretty nasty
your palate has to get itself you know
it has to get accustomed to what it is
that it's drinking but when you take
sugar and co2 you mix it together that's
like an explosive kick that's incredibly
enjoyable all in one go straight away
you don't you don't have to custom
yourselves what you're drinking so he
said it's kind of it's kind of like
America's like you know the eat whatever
it is you got to have it you got to have
it now I didn't mean it immediate some
kind of immediate gratification so you
know that's why I coca-cola is it the
national drink of America because
alcohol it's true alcohol can be great
but until you get yourself used to it it
takes a little bit of a while without
water what is national drink of all
countries water water is a national
drink I don't know if it's a national
drink what water is a staple right which
means without water we don't up we're
not going to live it's very interesting
i love you should know about drinking
water out of out of every other drink
right water in order to drink water you
after in order to make a broker of a
water you have to be thirsty really yeah
nice but do you keep what are you saying
really no I just made it up ah don't
worry quite a few Thursday's are so
listen listen right what what's up shop
if you let's say you're not thirsty
right you just wanna have a drink but
you're not you're not thirsty
particularly or somebody gives you a
drink baby you want to keep over here so
hot no because you do you very good here
okay you gotta keep drinking cuz you're
gonna stay hydrated right or you've
gotta take a pill yeah you're not
drinking because you're thirsty you're
just drinking because you have to take
the pillow because you got to stay
hydrated if that's the case then you
don't make a broth over the water which
is not true if you were drinking juice
or coke right even if you're only
drinking the coke in order to swallow
the pill you make a buffer over the code
because that's a drink water rabbi one
time told me that if he's studying and
he's reciting it he's like I just drink
the water without without just too he's
not thirsty I guess so right okay I
guess so which means that he's only he's
only drinking it but whatever the reason
right himself hydrated himself awake
maybe go bro right so you know you're
not making oh you often
no if you're taking a pill on your drink
you're washing it down with water and
the only reason you're drinking the
water is because you want to take the
pill what about making the broth on the
pill now you don't make a brother pills
are food really I mean obviously this is
difficult for college students to
comprehend because they live off of
amphetamines and all kinds of you know
all kinds of pills but when I sir pills
are not food I don't know how to break
this together with one shot this is from
the other side of the counter right okay
the what's the source of that what's a
source of wad show connacher again it's
a lot of soccer which means it's a basic
halacha it's a very fascinating in a
minute like spend your robe hook has
most incredible explanation over here
but you understand the logic makes
perfect sense right where every other
drink that you're drinking even if
you're not thirsty obviously you're
going to get a kick out of drinking it
right so you have you have you have you
juice you have your code whatever it is
so fine you like a brother / you're
getting enjoyment from it but water is
it you know the truth is that nothing
tastes better than water when you are
thirsty what water is like you know they
call it over here there's a certain
mineral water that they call it the
champagne of nature right it really is
nothing tastes better than water when
you're thirsty but when you're not
thirsty water doesn't taste anything so
you have to have that first in order
them out in order to be out like a bra
for it because water has got nothing in
it to give you additional pleasure every
other thing that you drink has got
something in it right it's got the taste
it's got whatever it is whatever you're
drinking whether it's a the fructose or
the sugar or that what everything right
says you're a hook than the most
incredible idea listen to this listen
carefully to what he says it says that
you've got to be thirsty in order to
drink water and the sages say that water
and tara analogous to each other so the
same way that you can't live with it
water and torah are analogous to each
other which means the same way that you
can't live without water in the physical
world so till you can't live without
Tyra so says rehana and what are the
what are the so what are the rabbi's
teachers then
order to make a broth over water what
have you got to have you got out of
thirst to drink it so he says that in
order to learn tile we need to have a
thirst to learn Torah it's a fantastic
ideas mamash beautiful person's got to
be thirsty to learn Torah when you're
thirsty silent era then the toe will
quench your thirst but if you're not
thirsty then it won't get won't give you
anything but it's just just liquid
that's all it is so we can't make
kiddush over water it's not considered
to be important enough with regards to
kiddush right it's not considered to be
important enough for the liquid to be
able to make a kiddush over it so we use
other things instead right so far so
good good okay again like I said I think
the best thing to do is to is that is
use the wine or to use grape juice that
way you fulfill all the obligations
don't worry do you want to have your
whiskey in your vodka afterwards there's
no problem whatsoever I make sure you
don't have to make a bit just because
you drink the water not because I needed
thirsty only because yeah the problem
the problem is that it's very it's very
subjective right it's very difficult to
define what at what point the what point
you thirst you know what point are you
not thirsty right eulogy I know I'm not
so here let's say the doctor tells you
that you've got a drink three liters of
water a day in the summer in order to
make sure that you don't dehydrate so at
that point i would say like this the
embassies i would say like this that the
first slurp of water that you take you
probably are thirsty right and it tastes
good and you should make a broker over
that and then just keep sipping all the
way through the day and then you don't
have to worry about it if you're sipping
at least once every half an hour even
it's a new ones can't do with the bottle
is to do with the continuity of what
you're doing right passes with 72
minutes if they buy water is only half
an hour right if passed our if half an
hour passes and you're thirsty again so
you can make a broker over the water
again right but if you're just if you're
not thirsty and you're just drinking it
because you got to keep drinking it
right then you should just carry on
drinking without my
they put in different shoe oh so you can
only make a brain of a short within the
half an hour yeah so aging everything
I'm gonna drink more you forget about it
oh so here's here's what you're doing is
manator right you said you set your
watch right and I let it be but when it
beats you know that you've got to take
it which was like if you you start off
in the morning you make charcoal of your
water right and if you're drinking all
the way through the day less than every
half an hour then you don't have to
worry about an after proper tool until
you finish drinking right so you can
have this rather odd scenario where at
ten o'clock in the morning you made a
shackle and you're drinking all the way
through until ten o'clock at night and
check mark on that you can make a bona
fide show is over all all the water all
the liquids that you drank I'll just
water all the liquids that you drank
from the beginning of the dental the end
of the day but the problem is you've got
to be on the ball right so if you're
following the time that's great and if
not it means that you've skipped out
right if you get to the 31st minute and
you suddenly remember so you've lost the
opportunity now to make a brain of a
shot over what you've already drunk but
you can make a magic you can you can
carry on drinking and so long as you
drink a cheeks worth full of liquid in
one go within the rest of the time that
you're drinking so then you can make a
brief a shot over what you're drinking
is what I mean that if you take a little
bit of water you look bill yeah you know
know what is excited rewarded doesn't
matter if you're taking the water only
because you need to swallow the pill
then you don't make a bracha rola roof
but if you use tea or coffee or anything
else and you're only using it in order
to swallow the pill it doesn't matter
then you have to make a bracha this
thing only works for water not for
anything else right like that because
i'll say ain mayela Torah there is no
water except for toe which is water and
Torah water gives us life torrid gives
us life we need to approach our learning
Torah with an enthusiasm with a passion
with the first the first to know right
so for example not to sit with arms
folded and eyes glazed and dribble
coming out the side of your mouth that's
not the way to do it the only has one of
them so easily clear so I knew is that
so far so good right time and I think
that when it comes to making kitty
should make kiddush of wine or grape
juice and then afterwards like I said
don't worry you can still have your shot
oh sure I prefer doing over one but
there was a lot of times in monsey we
just you know we would do kido chef to
shoppers and like we get each one Thank
You the kiddush club uh what what do you
do right kiddush so you may have noticed
in many places when you go for kiddush
to somewhere somebody make skittish and
maybe you get some of the wine maybe you
don't get some of the wine it doesn't
matter especially in the morning shabbat
morning right very often weather may
kiddush you know especially he's making
kiddush of whiskey he's not sharing this
with anybody he just knocks it back in
one go where she's sharing it with
people leaders who want to go I see what
he said not like not the little cup of
his own his own little individual cup so
whatever it's okay somebody else can
drink the wine for you you don't have to
we spoke about this the other day you
don't have to drink the wine in order to
fulfill your obligation to hear kiddush
right so so long as you hear the
cadichon you want so i made to the
bratha then that's enough if you get to
drink the wine so fine you'll see some
people are careful to make sure they
drink from the wine and some people are
not yeah the daily kiddush so you hear
guys yet yeah we go it's on this kid
when you get home your wife hasn't heard
yeah do you make depends what kind of
state you're in do you so you can make
kiddush feel wife you can make it is to
you against you you you've been too
kiddish and you you fulfilled your
obligation wherever you were somebody
make it a few over there or you may kill
yourself and then you go home and you've
got a wife and children and guests and
you can make kiddush for all of them
again even though you've got no
obligation whatsoever but you're
fulfilling their obligation now you love
to surgery from looking for sure he can
drink to the kiddush of you wants to but
he doesn't have to so long as so long as
somebody there is going to drink the
majority of the cup of the wine that the
kiddush was made over then that's okay
what if he drew it that's fine again he
can he can fulfill the obligation like
that as well so he already fulfilled our
obligation but now he's doing even
bigger Midson from giving mom very good
right he's he's fulfilled his obligation
and now he's fulfilling in a certain way
so filling it in it in a bigger way by
helping other people fulfill their
obligation even though he doesn't have
to do it was great so we spoke we spoke
about this the other week if my memory
serves me correct if my memory serves me
correct we spoke about this the other
what the other week but the idea that
the Gomorrah says that God will our own
air right that the person who answers
amen has more reward than the person who
made to break out to begin with anybody
yeah which which is counterintuitive
right you would imagine that the little
unknown at the end is simply you know
you just like finishing up it's nice to
hear the young men but the person who's
making the broth of a show is getting
more rewards than you are because give
me he made the bras already made this
big name of God and so explain to go
it's a most incredible idea really is
that the person who wants is our main
gets more reward than the person who
made the prophet of again with why
because the person who made the brother
begin with is getting something out of
it right which means that you make a
broker over a piece of cake and you eat
that piece of cake the person wants to
run name he's not going to get any cake
out of you
he knows you right the chances of you
sharing that cake with him a zero right
he knows that you know the person makes
a broker over a can of coke right so he
makes a shower call he's going to drink
that can of coke the person making the
brother is getting something out of it
which means I'm not don't misunderstand
me i'm not suggesting that I'm not
belittling the making of the brother
it's a tremendous thing to make a bracha
but the person who answers our name is
doing it completely altruistically he's
not getting anything out of this at all
what's he doing he's just recognizing a
show right signing off at the end of the
bracha right and that's why the Gomorrah
says that if you do that you get more
rewards than the poster made the bracha
to begin with so over here you're right
right you got somebody who's going off
now and he's making kiddush for other
people he doesn't have to make kitty
she's already fulfilled his obligation
he's doing this only for other people
right so he's for that you know for sure
he's getting he's getting lots of reward
over here for doing something to help
other people fulfill their obligation
you hear a voice I you out there anyone
there yes oh no no one hundred percent
not one hundred percent other all kinds
of Broca's that we can make we can make
them for other people right and you can
fulfill their obligation by saying the
brothel for them you're doing very
fertile Mazzone you could seasoned
academies on if there's a need right you
can said out loud and the person who's
listening has to listen to every word
and answer our name and then you you've
now fulfilled his obligation we spoke
about it what we spoke about the laws of
the shamani say that the repetition of
the Amidah the person is repeating the
emitter is repeating it for those that
can't say by themselves and if that's
the case then that person who's
listening to every word of the
repetition of the Amidah is fulfilling
his obligation through the shell yotsuba
through through the kazan who's reciting
all the words for him right it's a very
it's a very beautiful idea I one sort of
a rug there's a very very famous rabbi
baruch arab-jewish teen who is a
tremendous Halak equal authority so
somebody wants asked him what do you do
you've got somebody who come to your
house is not religious and they want to
and they want
the drink that's a problem because you
know you're going to give a drink and
he's going to drink without making a
blessing and so maybe maybe you know
it's like putting a stumbling block in
front of somebody right you gave him
somebody to eat eat or drink and he's
not gonna like a blessing over it so he
says what he always does is that when
the person asked for a drink he gets
that two cups and He pours himself a
drink as well and he says him I'm going
to make a blessing for most both of us
and you should answer on me you can do
that yeah right again in all it all of
these brackets which are you can fulfill
somebody else's obligation by doing it
for them person can't do it by
themselves and you like the app also
even though even over here the first
himself doesn't want to do it or doesn't
know how to do it so you can make the
blessing for him but when it's when you
talk about making brokers over here for
example right where you too i'm making
Bracco's like you want you're gonna
drink something together with him so you
have to drink with him you shouldn't
make the broker and then he'd be the one
to drink but you should drink as well
right not like not like kiddush when
kiddush right includes we said that if
the person's to filling other people's
obligations he's already fulfilled his
obligation he does not to drink from the
wine okay when you make kiddush right
you make kiddush on Shabbat and onion
turf regardless of whether it's at night
or during the day you make kiddush and
then ninety nine percent of the people
wash their hands and they come o tea
afterwards right some people wash their
hands first and then they make kiddush
and then they make a mighty without
making a break between the whole thing
but what's for sure is kiddush the
brother over the wine always proceed to
Bravo over the bread right so what do we
do with an after brother are you are you
obligated in making after brother over
the wine that you drank a kiddush or not
because officially it's not really part
of the meal because the meals only going
again once you make a mighty but because
kiddush is connected to a mighty tour
one long you know it's one long thing
that means that when you come to wash
your hands and you eat the meal and you
bench at the end of it it's going to
fulfill the obligation of making the
after bra for over the wine
now it's a little bit of a novel idea of
it because normally what would happen if
you drank something you drank wine
before you washed your hands so now
you're obligated it making it after
brother and you should really make the
after broker and then you should go and
wash your hands and you can have your
meal right but over here the Yankees the
Yak is do it but I eat however way you
do it the bracha over the wine always
comes before the broker over the bread
right so over here we got a little kid I
shall we a little like a little novel
idea over here which is what when you
come to bench when you recite big cut
amazon it's going to include the wine
that you drank when you made kiddush
however what you may have noticed is
that some people have the custom when
they come to bench that they bench over
a cup of wine right now very often
you'll see that when there's a minyan
that's very much the norm right 10 cuz
you're a whole bunch of people over
there right there are different opinions
inside of the locker according to some
opinions if you've got only if there are
only three men that are sitting together
what's called a Zemon then you also
bench over a cup of wine there's one
opinion the artificial who says that
even a person by himself should save
your cat amazon over a cup of wine the
cup of wine over there is definitely
cost show brother right which you spoke
about yesterday but there's an
interesting dimension after you finish
benching you recite bokutachi monokini
melech ha-olam boray pree are golfing
and you drink the wine and after you've
drunk the wine what do you do you make
it after blessing right even though you
just recited beer can't amazon but you
made a brother over the wine and that
wine was not included inside of the meal
at all so then you are now you're
obligated in making and after brother
say the authorities that if you're going
to make a bracha over the cup of wine
then you should keep in mind when you
make the after brother keep in mind that
if there was an obligation to recite an
after bratha after the wine of kiddush
that
that's how you're going to fulfill your
obligation you here I just made it up
stop asking keeps asking that question I
don't know I don't know what it is I
just made it up but it sounds good my
father always used to say that the more
the more conviction of person has the
less sure he is what if you make a wrong
depends what you've made it by mistake
you made charcoal so you're off the hook
because charcoal is it just like a
generic blessing so even though you're
supposed to die tell you you too i don't
know you you either get a a vegetable of
some kind of you were sure that it was
here you know what you had you had you
had to cut see live the Tom covered baby
which is a eggplant that tastes like
liver you think you're eating chopped
liver so you make sure how to deliver
yeah and they have liver the taste like
eggplant as well it's a fascinating
thing anyway and but you've got you've
got a food you made the run blocker but
if you made the shower call over it even
though you should have made the shackle
nevertheless you fulfilled your
obligation because shackle is really a
broker which fits everything I call me
every driver I coach Bob who created a
resident and everything you like a
vegetable it's because all you're saying
is that God created everything right if
we spoke that way we spot where this
yesterday no yeah sure yeah so won't you
come here select on a day that's
ridiculous and make it anywhere I'm
gonna tell it over again without don't
think any more lies anyway if you make
if you've got in front of you something
and you're not sure whether it's hard
ammo or eight you you're not sure so you
should make our dama y because the tree
grows out of the ground as well right if
you make at eight instead of our dama
that's a wrong broker and say you took
her didn't you shoot yesterday know if
you make if you take a cucumber and you
make her 80 over a cucumber that's the
wrong broker if you may have Dumber over
an apple then that's that's like
indirectly that's the correct profit so
did what do you do do you see the quick
run so then you got it you got yeah
you've got to you say first we take both
shank for Michaels later on web because
you made the wrong brother and if it
that's only that's only if you realize
straight away yeah if you don't realize
so when you take a couple of bikes and
you said you guys hold on a second what
did I just do that was that was wrong so
then you have to make a bracha of what
it is that you're eating so let's say
for example you dizzily it's like word
association what's you know like he said
music hey good right to make them you
make a amazon on over bamber right so
you made the right it's a wrong bracha
to make so then you stop take another
one and make a shark all over the world
if you realize with you within
enough time that you know that it's a
very short amount of time it's amount of
time that you're supposed to say Shalom
Aleichem Rebbe the movie which is like
you know what we talked about five
seconds maybe it's got to be an
immediate reaction so here he made this
an odd because he thought that that's
what he was supposed to make and only
articles you realize that that's not the
right brother to megs at that point you
can't save all shame anymore kiddush
that's recited on friday night and
recited on Chavez morning should be
recited in the place that you're going
to eat that's where the kiddush club
comes in actually right because what was
the chat on Friday night we sit down
read a meal right so it's not a big deal
everybody make skittish and they sit
down and they wash and they sit down and
have the meal in the same place so they
just make kiddush but if you want to
make kiddush on Chavez morning in shul
for example because you're going to be
eating later on and you don't want to
you know Selena risk the risk the the
possibility of dying of starvation you
know between ten-thirty and one o'clock
or something
that's fine it's fine it's fine really
it's high you know yeah Jews especially
the so that's why you've got to make
sure that there's going to be food in
the place that you're making it's not
enough just to make kiddush right over
the cup of wine and then that's it I've
done it now I can go and have my cup of
coffee but you need to make a minimum of
Amazon not as well and that's why you'll
find there's always crackers in a
kiddush knows we're going to be taking a
kiddush and that's there in order to
make sure that you can that you can make
them as or not and that's called kiddush
but my calm sital doubt that you make
kiddush in the place that you have your
suitor now if you're going home and
you're going to eat your meal at home
anyways that's again it's no big deal
right but you do need to keep that in
mind if you're making kiddush you're
making kiddush before you're going to
get to wherever you're going to have
your meal you do have to make sure that
you're going to eat some kind of miss or
not as well so you can do ki do shots
shul and go home and eat you can so long
as you eat something in sure so long as
your weakness or not right but if I
don't know if there's numbers are not
there for whatever the reason are you
quite as you conning this or not then
it's going to be a problem right then
you shouldn't make kiddush and sure
there are again for people like silly
acts right so now they have brought Baja
July when I was a kid growing up you
know having celiac was a terribly
complicated thing because there was no
there was no food available except for
pace up at all these people used to
stock up cuz I'm pesach no wheat flour
is nice right so people used to stock up
on you know by as much as they could of
things that we're going to last for as
long as possible and they would use that
but today it's it's pretty easy to get a
hold of these things and they've got
they actually have breads that are made
out of certain as one flower which is
gluten free which is ok to use even
though for many silly acts it's a little
bit heavy right because they're not used
to eating things over there at least
they can fulfil the obligation of making
her moiety on Shabbat and a hunter but
in the olden days it was it was a writ
was an issue really was right for some
people they make you know somebody had a
bad case of celiac they would they would
definitely be they would they would have
no obligation to be able to make a
moiety they can't make it
it's exactly it's unhealthy for them
we're calling back you fools is ah the
Colleen Becky Bowie yeah for sure I'm to
be saying the same person who tells you
too fast on Yom Kippur it's the same
person who tells you not to fast when
you're second young people which means
the same way that it's a midst of the
fast for some people it's a bit today
it's all over here it's a mitzvah for
everybody like a mission on Shabbat
right but a person who's not able to eat
like a Mishnah then for him the same
whether it's a mitzvah for you to eat
like a mission of a madam it so not too
late okay that's you know that the
Indian of sickness right being sick of
being careful with what you eat and all
of these things they're all it's all
built into you know into into into the
hollow for its all there I just got to
know how to identify it and use it
properly but in all events it's very
it's very very important that when you
make kiddush that you eat something it's
also rather important that you eat
something almost straight away which
means when the person is made kiddush so
that your insurer right back in your
kiddush Club which is where you seem to
spend an awful lot of time when somebody
makes kill each over there in the you
know you go you go to the kiddush after
after darling right you going to the
hole somebody make skittish over there
you should endeavor to eat amazonas it
or not as quickly as possible don't
don't wait if there's too much of a gap
that it means that the kiddush is no
longer kind of insight is no longer
applicable to you and you have to make
kiddush again hi Google is fine
depending on what google it is if you
eat you shall me cago which is this
bizarre concoction that ain't over here
made out of noodles and pepper and
caramel which is that's all they had so
yeah yeah but caramel and pepper
together yeah yeah that is interesting
yes that's one way of describing it for
sure with a with a pickle doesn't forget
the pic all right hold on a second hold
on a second right if you if you're going
to eat us something like a lockshin
Google then for sure there's no problem
you make amazona sovereign right this or
not if you are going to eat potato kugel
so most potato cookies Adam are if
that's the case then you're not you've
got to eat miss or not as well and you
is not first which means we find some
crackers and eat those or find a piece
of cake and eat that and then you can
take whatever else you want so my where
my son did will told me that when his
grandfather learnt in yeshiva going back
you know we're 60 years ago in bnei brak
and slabodka so he said the difference
between slabodka and paunovic was a ton
Chavez and Shabazz when they gave them
can filter fish to eat in pond of each
they made moszer not over it because it
had so much mud sand meal mixed into it
because they couldn't afford matzo meal
cost less than the fish and slabodka
they made shark all over it because it
was a hat it was financially better off
than paunovic and it was made mostly
with fish without too much added in
right it is conceivable that a kugel
even a potato kugel if it's got enough
flour inside of it it is conceivable
that it would be musze or not the
problem isn't no one's going to admit to
having added in so much flour to their
kugel because obviously that means that
you've been skimping lady cutting
cutting cutting around at your alma
mater imagine potatoes probably cost
less than flowers as I think whatever
anyway okay so we finished it Baruchel
somehow rather we managed to finish the
in the helices of jewish and we will
tomorrow i think we're going to start
that offers of rosh hashanah and and
everything else that you people ask
about on the way right
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