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Epis 237 - That's A Real Cheeseburger?!

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[music] >> It's going to be a very interesting show this week. Uh first of all, coming up soon, we're going to be having [music] I mean, there was a whole controversy that happened in Lakewood with uh a mix-up between Smash House and Smash Burger where somebody ended up feeding their children non-kosher and this turned into like a whole kind of a serious thing in the Jewish world. So, we are going to be hearing directly from the parent shortly. But, before before we get to that, I want to play something. Uh we did make a promise and I just want to play a little clip for you. Okay. You mind listening? >> Not at all. Okay. So, let me play. This is from episode 234. Listen to this. Well, it's like Sabra you know, Sabra is owned by was acquired by Pepsi. >> Yes. Um Huge deal. >> Fully aware of that. I mean, personally, I don't love Sabra hummus. Ooh. I'm just it's just not my taste. >> it's pretty good. It's not for me. I need a little bit more authenticity in my hummus. >> I am. I am. >> Okay. I'm going to bring we're going to do a blind taste test with hummus. >> Any day of the week. >> And I'm going to give you the Sabra and another hummus that you claim to like. >> I welcome it. And we'll see. We should You know what? I I'm so excited about this. >> After Pesach. Obviously, we're not buying anything now. Okay. >> Is that today? That is today. It is after Pesach. Cuz I'm not really ready. But, you did ask. You were like, hey, we were supposed to do the taste test. You did so. So, I I'm still confident in my abilities. Okay. So, this is going to be a blind taste test like I said. Okay. So, I'm not even letting you see the plate. Our Our listeners are going to get a picture of the plate. Uh they're labeled 1 2 and 3. Mhm. Uh do you want me to tell you the brands? We have three brands here. >> Sure. I mean, if you want me to guess appropriately, you know, if you if it's real blind taste test, you need to tell me which brands are there and I'll tell you which is which. Or should we just give you three tastes and you say which one is the best? Rate them best to worst. >> think that's >> I'll say the brands. But, wouldn't it be cool if I could tell you which brands they are? >> That would be. But, it would be if it was blind. It would be even better. >> I'm completely blind. What do you want to >> No, meaning meaning if I don't tell you the brands and you go, oh, that You want it double blind. >> Yeah. Okay. Look, I don't I don't know. I I think there's an advantage to knowing like who is in the mix. >> you, yes. Yeah, I want that advantage. >> [laughter] >> So, I'm I'm not even letting him see because there is a slight difference in color between all three of them. And I don't know if you have some sort of, you know, super color, you know, uh I don't know what that superpower would be. But, yeah. So, we're going to make sure you don't have Are you ready? >> I'm ready. We're going to try number one. Let's go. And we're going to do this together. Oh, you're going to taste it as well. >> to eat. >> Okay. >> [laughter] >> That's fair. That checks out. >> is. And make sure when you eat this hummus, you wipe it clean so that you you know, you don't cross-contaminate. Okay. You gave me the spoon. I'm going to tell you right now. >> Whoa. Right now, I'm going to tell you even before I I taste it, I will tell you that this is the Sabra hummus. Really? >> Yeah. This is it. And you're betting on it? >> I will bet anything on it. I know it. I know it. I know it like I know my name. >> Okay, you ready? Ready. Here we go. You barely you barely ate it. I I took a big huge >> [laughter] >> This is not Sabra. Oh. You're changing now. >> I'm changing cuz the smell smelled like it, but the taste is not there. Okay. I want to say that this is like Sunny and Joe's. Okay. Okay. Let's put that aside. >> You've seen that out there. Uh yeah, I think >> I don't know I don't know if you bought it. I don't know what you bought. Okay. So, that was number one. Uh we need you to finish off that spoon. Come on. You can do it. There we >> right. You want it clean. >> Yeah, clean it off. Okay. So, that was number one. Your guess is You thought it was Sabra from the smell. >> No, it's Sabra. I'm going back. I'm going back. No, no. We need a final answer. Final answer. This is Sabra hummus. That's Sabra hummus. >> the real Unless there's a different See, that's why I need the names. But, okay. Let's see. Let's see. Let's get Here comes number two. So, but you're you're sticking right now with >> Sabra hummus. Sabra hummus, okay. I don't have an idea on the brand. Okay. But, You like this better or worse? I like it a little better. Okay. So, that's number two. You don't have an idea on the brand, but you like it a little better. >> Right. So, number two is your front runner. Front runner. Number one Sabra, which I don't like. >> But, you don't like. Incoming number three. It's so similar to number one. >> [laughter] >> It's almost exactly number one. >> I I disagree. This third one to me, it had a much stronger sesame flavor to in my opinion. Yeah, I hear where you're coming from. Yeah. There's a lot more sesame in there. Like a tahini flavor. >> Yeah. So, yeah, to me it tasted very different. This is actually my least favorite of the three, interestingly enough. I think again, I think my first was the worst. But, this is also pretty bad. Okay. So, number one was the worst. Okay. Number two was second worst. >> Number two is the best, right? >> So, it goes 2 1 3. Yes. Okay. Are you ready for the reveal? >> I am. Okay. Number two, which was your favorite >> is Sabra hummus. >> No. No way. It's not possible. Yes, it is. I will show you the plate. >> [laughter] >> And if you don't believe me, you could compare the colors because I do have all the packs. Number two was Sabra hummus. >> This is number two? Yes. >> [laughter] >> I'm so happy. I couldn't You know, you know, this is interesting. You're going to You're going to laugh now when when you hear. That's Sabra. The one that you liked most was Sabra. >> I don't know if you're if you're if you're like trolling me. I just don't know. >> I I I I I will show you the the the carton. You can compare the colors. Interesting. Number one. Now, this is wild. Guess what number one was? >> Don't know. Sunny and Joe's. So, I said it. I said it And I was shocked. When you said it, I WENT, WHOA! I WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS GOING TO END VERY badly for me. It at the >> Yeah, you literally got the you got the brand and then you switched. >> Yeah. You switched it and I was like, yes, he switched it. [laughter] It was at first I tasted that Sunny's and Joe's like the Sunny and Joe's flavor and then when I when I when it went down, I was like, no, this is very Sabra-esque. >> Uh So, uh and number three was Holy Hummus. Interesting. >> Yeah. And [clears throat] interestingly, the pricing the pricing was Sabra was the cheapest. Well, that checks out. >> But, but you're saying I like it the best. >> [laughter] >> The other uh between the other two, Sunny and Joe's was uh a little more expensive and Holy Hummus was also more expensive. They were There was actually almost like $2 price difference between the Sabra Yeah. Well, it's being mass-produced. Okay. So, the Sabra was the cheapest and the best. >> Right. Even according to your discerning palate. >> hurts me and I need to go back to the [laughter] back to the I guess back to the kitchen. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, at minimum you don't need to be a a hummus snob anymore. The next time you you you find yourself >> I prefer homemade. >> kiddush with with Sabra hummus, you're not going to start screaming. I can't say anything. I can't even say anything. Wow. Okay, people. So, there it is. There you have it. Uh so, that was interesting, right? Yeah. To say the least. >> But, on the food topic, so let's get back to what we started with. Uh so, for those who don't know, uh so, there was there was uh we we don't know the details. We're going to get the details. We're going to get the details from Maishy. His name has been changed to protect the innocent. >> Yes. Uh Maishy is going to be joining us. Uh someone from his family uh actually was the one who contacted all the Jewish social media. We're going to get all the details from them. >> he contacted them in order just to bring social uh uh heightened awareness >> Right. >> of the potential problems. >> But, let's just talk about what has been going on in social media. So, you actually brought this to my attention. You said, "Did you see what's going on with Smashburger?" >> Yeah. And Smash House. >> Right. >> Smashburger {slash} Smash Smash House and I was like, >> slash. They're two separate entities. >> Good. Yes. So, you told me about it and I was like, okay, this is not even news. Like, why should I care? Right. >> And you said, "What do you mean? Everyone's going crazy." And I still said, "I don't care." But, then when I looked, I saw you right. People were actually going crazy. And the lines that that were going around, I thought were just I I think it was taken a little too far. Like, I don't want to you know, In what sense? Tell me. Okay. Like, a lot of people are saying, "Oh, that they should shut them down." Yes. That's ridiculous. >> that's ridiculous. >> Agreed. >> Okay. Then there were people saying We should not have kosher cheeseburgers in the Jewish market. >> Correct. And on that too, I say, I mean, look, it's not a Jewish concept. >> You definitely don't agree with that cuz you're of the guy when we talk about >> I've I've been to Smash House. No, but you also were the guy when we were talking about the pork in Israel, the kosher pork and they could they couldn't get hechsher for it. Right. >> And you were very like, you know, They should [laughter] Yeah. You know, my positions do change though. No. Not >> this. >> Not on [laughter] food. So, yeah. Yeah, if it's kosher, it's kosher. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and >> But, the concept of a cheeseburger is not a very Jewish idea. Yes, but it's not really a cheeseburger, right? Because this is not cheese. >> Correct. So, like and where do you draw the line? >> way, the future is going to be uh lab-grown meat with real cheese. That is the future. Oh, no. I I disagree. What do you mean? You don't think that that's going to come out? >> going to come out. But, I don't think any uh any one of the major hashgacha organizations, any one of the koshering agencies are not going to give uh they're not going to say it's pareve. You're not You're saying the meat that is lab-grown that has no cow heritage Yes. >> Right? There's It's not It's not meat. No, it doesn't No, it it does come from a cow, right? Well, no, no, no. The original stem cell comes from a cow. Right. And now it's been grown in a lab. It has really no beef yichus. Right. >> If you think about it. >> genealogy of beef. >> Correct. >> it does because it came from beef. So, so, I mean, >> Well, listen, artificial intelligence came from human intelligence. You wouldn't call that human. No, but this is different, right? Because if you're taking a steak and then you're growing more steaks, it was a steak. I'll give you an example of where this this practically comes about. And we covered this in one of our episodes, but we'll just cover it quickly, is for example, if you take Let's say you take a hair from that cow and you use that for the cells. Mhm. Is that aver min hachai? Is that considered taking a a a piece of an animal that's living, which is not allowed which makes it not kosher. Is that considered aver min hachai? >> You're saying just a hair? >> Yeah, while the cow's living, you go and you pluck it. I Personally, I wouldn't say that that is cuz the animal's not suffering. The entire premise of of aver min hachai is is is is the suffering of the animal. I don't think that's accurate, but I think it's a halacha and I I I You think it's not subject to the to your svara, to my svara. Yeah, it's a kfirah [laughter] here, but it's fine. It's fine. You could do you. You could do you. But um we we covered that in Israel where they were you know, they're very advanced in this area. There was a rav who came out and said it's parve. We covered this. >> Right, the lab-grown beef. And then all of the major organizations came out and they were like, "No, no, no, no, this is not parve." But they did find some rav to say it was parve. Right. Because And by the way, in my example of where this this practically comes about, and we covered this in one of our episodes, but we'll just cover it quickly, is for example, if you take Let's say you take a hair from that cow and you use that for the cells. Mhm. Is that aver min hachai? Is that considered taking a a a piece of an animal that's living, which is not allowed which makes it not kosher. Is that considered aver min hachai? You're saying just a hair? Yeah, while the cow's living, you go and you pluck it. Personally, I wouldn't say that that is cuz the animal's not suffering. The entire premise of of aver min hachai is is is the suffering of the animal. I don't think that's accurate. But I think it's a halacha and I I You think it's not subject to the to your svara, to my svara. Yeah, it's a kfirah here, but it's fine. It's fine. You could do you. You could do you. But we we covered that in Israel where they you know, they're very advanced in this area. There was a rav who came out and said it's parve. We covered this. Right, the lab-grown beef. And then all of the major organizations came out and they were like, "No, no, no, no, this is not parve." But they did find some rav to say it was parve. Right. Because And by the way, in my example the next contentious issue in in the Jewish world. I don't know how contentious it's going to be because I I think people just generally go with the flow. You know, whatever the major organizations do, people just follow. Right. And by the way, before anyone emails us with with angry uh halachic emails and that a hair is not really meat or milk anyway because it's considered uh like the refuse of the animal. We know. It was just an example. Calm down, people. Calm down. So, right. So, anyway, I don't think that's going to happen. But that was another question that people had. Mhm. Uh A third question that people had was the other way around, meaning that somebody was using an app, Uber Eats. If you can't read, like how is that the restaurant's problem? Right. >> Like there's a very clear difference between Smashburger and Smash House. Yes. Yes, I agree. >> Again, this is just what people are saying. >> Yeah, people just what people are saying. Uh so, bottom line, what do you What's your take? Uh personally, I think it's it's I I feel very bad that it occurred, but but [laughter] you know, there's a sense of responsibility that you have to have as as somebody ordering. Right. >> look, it happened before. Uh in a major yeshiva. And this is a long time ago where And this probably even before Uber uh Uber Eats. >> [laughter] >> But they called a place. Uh They thought it was kosher. It had a similar word in the name. They ordered from the restaurant. It came. The whole dorm room ate treif. Wow. Yeah, I mean it it it happens. It does happen. It has nothing to do with Uber Eats. It has nothing to do with how you read. You just I guess need to be aware. When you're aware and you talk about like uh you know, the tape around the food [laughter] when it comes. I mean, there's reasons why we do things, right? When you get food from an outside restaurant, you got to have You got to make sure that there's tape on it. Right. What What I'm thinking is I just hope that if they were having it anyway, it may as well have been a bacon double cheeseburger. You know what I'm saying? >> hoping for BLT. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We Well, I guess we'll find out if there was any bacon, but if there was bacon, they would know instantly. I suppose. That's another telltale sign, right? But the truth is they make the beef bacon as well. >> That's also true. Right? You Like what are you going to say about that? You want to answer that? You want to say that that's no good? I love beef bacon. >> It's fantastic. It's excellent. and that's just a a a a hint of what it really is. You know what I'm saying? It's not even It's just a a a a a main. Yeah, you're making me hungry now. Okay, so thankfully, uh Moishe, who's the parent, has uh accepted an interview with us. This is an exclusive. This is Kiddush Club exclusive. You're hearing it here first. And only, probably. >> Yeah. Cuz he doesn't do podcasts. >> Yeah, he was very reluctant. You had to really work your magic. Yeah, but we appreciate it so much. Yeah. Uh but here he is. We're going to bring him on. So, here he is. We have him on the line. Here's Moishe. Moishe, welcome to Kiddush Club. Hey, how are you, [ __ ] How are you? Good. Good. It's been a long time, but you know, we're here. Moishe, I want to first of all thank you for doing this. Uh you know, I I know it's it probably is a little bit difficult. And uh you know, we appreciate it, but you know, for you're helping Klal Yisrael. >> [snorts] >> You know what I mean? 100%. That's the reason why I agreed to come [laughter] on. Help out the the people awareness that this shouldn't happen again. So, first of all, I I mean, the question I think that uh everybody that's on everybody's mind, I'm just curious from you. So, first of all, actually tell the audience there was a lot of conspiracy theories running around. Did it actually happen? Did it not actually happen? Could you clarify that? And tell us what happened. >> Did the story happen? Yes. And burgers were ordered from Smashburger as opposed to Smash House. [laughter] And to the question of did the kids eat it? The answer is yes. And they did eat a cheeseburger from Smashburger. Okay, so so many questions come along with that. I mean, I think like I know that this is a serious topic, but just my very first knee-jerk question is like was it good? Yeah, that's really what I've been waiting to ask. So, obviously, my son that ate it was 8 years old. The first question I asked him is that what it taste like. You know, I don't want to think too much into it. And he told me it was actually tasted pretty weird. That was his response. >> That checks out because if you've never had a cheeseburger before and it's your first, you know, it's your first foray into that world, it's going to be disorienting. Yes, but at the same time, I mean, it's meat and it's cheese. So, like I mean, did did he say like it was a good burger? No, he said he actually didn't finish it. Said it wasn't that good. Interesting. Wow. >> not missing that much. That's fired at Smashburger. Yeah. Okay, so now uh obviously, a ton of questions. So many people had a lot of questions. The obvious one. How did this actually happen? Who made the mistake and how did it happen? I'll start that. You know, you want to go into it. We are that Smash House opened in Lakewood a week or I think about a week or two ago when this incident happened. And it was the hottest thing. You know, it's been promoted on social media, advertising. And all the kids know about it. Um the my son was playing at his cousin's house, my brother's house. And my brother and his wife were away for the day. And they had a frum babysitter at the house um watching their kids. Um the older kid was Some was in yeshiva. The older daughter was out. But the babysitter was watching the younger kids. Um [laughter] suppertime came. All the kids said, "Let's order Smash House." Or I don't know. They called it Smashburger. They kind of referenced that store. It's probably Smash House, they said. Um the frum babysitter went on her phone onto Uber Eats and asked the kids what they want. And each one said they want a cheeseburger cuz that's the famous item that Smash House has been promoting. She obviously made the mistake, got mixed up I know between the two stores. Actually, Smash House I think wasn't really delivering this past Sunday. They were that busy. So, I don't know what you know, triggered to the Smash House and the Smashburger. Clicked on the Smashburger option, obviously. The order split through the order. And they were three cheeseburgers and fries. Just >> [laughter] >> um food got delivered by Uber Eats as it always does, probably 20 to 30 minutes later. The kids went inside. Table was already set. They sat down and ate it. Okay, wait. Pause. Did you pay the babysitter? Need to know. Yes, the babysitter has been paid in full. Yes. What? Oh my gosh. >> But I think I think I think one I think one positive here that you're mentioning is that all the kids that did partake happened to have been under bar mitzvah. That's correct. So, that's some type of like solace. You know what I mean? To the to the The solace is that they don't realize, at least from a father's perspective, they don't realize the hammer of eating and the seriousness of eating treif. They obviously know what's into little kids that we don't eat treif or cheeseburgers. But I think a kid over bar mitzvah or a girl over bas mitzvah would kind of beat themselves up a lot more over it, for lack of better words. >> Right. Or beat up the babysitter. But I I'm wondering, you think this week uh like did Smashburger have their best week ever in Lakewood? For sure, right? >> It's not So, so I I I actually that's one of the reasons I agreed to come on is I think this can happen to anyone. It's not just this babysitter. It can happen to literally anyone. Especially when it's a brand new concept in town and 30 minutes, red flag. Red flag number one, brand new store, busy as anything, and they got the food quickly. Number two, it wasn't taped up. Uh, you know, it there's there's there's red flags. >> uh, you know, I as somebody who orders Uber Eats all the time at my house, so I of course we all see the tape that Michelle is referring to. >> [snorts] >> It's very popular that tape, and it's a pain to open up. But do the kids, when they Do our kids even know, maybe they part of the awareness what the tape is really for? Do every one of your No, but the babysitter, you you would think that the babysitter would know. >> Nobody's making a good point. It's your job as a father and the head of a household to make sure your kids understand what the what There was an adult in the room. There was an adult, a babysitter. The babysitter, I'm sure has ordered Uber Eats many times. >> I mean, again, I'm like I said, I'm a very big user of Uber Eats, okay? There are many times food comes to my door and I'm equally guilty. But I don't even think twice when I'm ordering from any other store in Lakewood. >> You have bacon, didn't you? You've eaten bacon. Just just say it. Come out now to all our listeners. >> I mean, my kids take it in and I'm being busy on a call or something like that, or I'm being busy upstairs with a baby. >> You're not focused. And my kids just rip it open. They they're chowing down on whatever burger or whatever it comes from, you know what I mean? >> So are you are you now one of the people So again, there's a lot of controversies going around, people saying, uh, I'm not going to say who said what. Loshon hora would have it. Uh, people saying the problem number one is the name. That's one camp. Prob- There's another camp of people saying the whole fact that we have these kosher cheeseburgers, that's the problem. And the fact that we're trying to be like goyem or whatever, that's the problem. Are you on any of those things, or you saying there's just an honest mistake? >> Both of those items are for a rav to decide. I'm not I'm not a rav I am. I am a regular working person here in Lakewood, New Jersey. I'm not going to be the one to decide either one of those. What I will say is something that I chose with Smash House just did a few moments ago is they added on the word kosher onto their Uber Eats profile. Okay, so there's there's action being taken on part of the restaurant to remedy this, you know, the possible confusion in the future. >> should do more than that. They should change the actual name. Just Now again, I'm not a rav either, but I I would think they shouldn't call themselves just straight Smash Burger or Smash House. It should be like kosher Smash House, with the word kosher first. But the problem is that it would a person searching And again, if if if the babysitter just searched for Smash Burger all the kosher Smash Houses in the world are not going to help, because Smash Burger is going to pop up and you're going to order. So it doesn't exactly solve >> Probably put in the word Smash. And I have no idea when they founded Smash House what the reasoning for the name was. I know it has something to do with actually smashing a burger. I've watched watched the social media that he talks about. And I'm sure with Smash Burger they do something similar. You know what I mean? So I don't know if I don't know if he was I don't want to accuse him of saying that he was trying to copy this the Smash Burger. I have no idea what went through his head when he when he came up with that name. You know what I mean? Was he trying to copy them and say, "Look, here we also serve cheeseburgers, just for kosher." I I don't know. But yeah, it can be very confusing. Right. >> For a child who's with a brand new concept also, don't forget. Like I said, the store opened about two weeks ago in Lakewood. So it can be very confusing. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So at after the fact And to the downers to the downers out there who say, "Look at the rest of the menu." They have downers who have not used Uber Eats that often, because Uber Eats shows you the most popular items right at the top of the page. >> Right. Right. >> And then you hit check out. A- Are the kids Is it public knowledge, like to your kid your kids among them, uh, do other people know that it was your kid? Do their friends know, or is this completely No, completely in the family. So who is the one who reached out to like Jewish media? >> Yeah. Was that My brother. My my my brother did. My brother did it not to My brother didn't do it to to Michelle to hurt Smash House. >> No, for sure. Right. >> felt He just felt it was important that in a new store in Lakewood this can be an issue. When you type in the word Smash, be careful which Smash you're hitting. Right. >> Or which Smash you're smashing. >> No, for sure. Right. [laughter] Okay, this is great. I mean, it's a great public service announcement. I And again, we really appreciate you coming on. Yeah, by the way, part of part of this never happening again is is because they're raising awareness, and because look, there's already been changes made on Uber Eats, which is a a big plus, and hopefully this never happens to anybody ever again. But that'll be in your zchus. Yes. And your brother's. And that's just 100%. Like I said, I don't think anybody One of the first things we teach our kids is obviously bash of a cholam. That's an important part of our I don't know our Jewish sight. And nobody would ever want that entering their house or to their kids' mouths. So it's just an awareness. It's not I'm not trying to be to hurt him, to hurt his business in any which way. Just an actual awareness. Just be careful when you're on the when you're on the Uber Eats. For sure. For sure. So thank you again for joining. Uh, we appreciate it. We know it was not is not easy to discuss. Uh, but may it Hashem nothing like this ever happens to you or your family or to anyone in klal Yisrael. And, uh, you know, God bless you for helping for helping everybody else be aware of the problem. Thank you very much for for having me. Thank you, Moishe. So look, I feel bad that it happened. Just to reiterate, you know. >> Especially now putting a face to the whole thing. Yeah, I feel terrible. Yeah. I do feel terrible. >> But again, like we said, it it it it was it was kids, you know, who didn't really reach bar mitzvah age. Not that that makes it better, right? But it's some type of saving grace. >> Yes. Okay, so let's move on. We do have a lot to cover. I mean, namely the attempted assassination of our president for the third time, is it? >> Yeah, it's the third time. Uh, yeah, so we absolutely we have to We have a lot to cover there. I do want to mention, by the way, so we, uh, last week we were talking a lot about anxiety. Not not a lot, but we were we were talking about some anxiety. And then this week's bonus, we did like a deep dive, like in a way that we don't usually do. >> Yeah, this was a unique episode for the two of us. I mean, we sometimes we're just going to get personal. >> Yeah, we got very personal. And we got some amazing studies. Like one of the studies was from a scientific standpoint. People that are lucky, quote unquote, how does that how does that work in science? Is there something to it? And it comes out there is something to it. But, you know, you're going to have to subscribe if you want to hear about that study. But it was very it was very personal. It was very interesting. And you know what's weird is that so after both after the last week's episode and after the bonus I guess I would I came out, as I often do, talking about my own little battles with anxiety. And several people, uh, contacted us asking, "Hey, could you recommend anything for anxiety? What should I do?" And, you know, it's it's it's pretty crazy how many people are dealing with it. And like it's almost like taboo. It's much less than it used to be, I think. >> Yeah, no, now it's almost an accepted fact that you if you're alive and you're walking around in this world, you probably have at least some form of anxiety. >> If you don't have anxiety If you >> [laughter] >> Like if you're watching the news right now, listening to the news, or looking at what's going on online, and you don't have anxiety, then check your pulse. >> Right. I mean, it's just something that it's it's a normal everyday thing I feel like that everybody goes through on some level. For some people it can become debilitating, and that's when it's a real problem. >> Exactly. >> Right? Anxiety I feel is normal, but if it inhibits you from from leading your life and doing the things that you love to do or that you have to do, then it becomes a problem. Yes, uh, totally agreed. Interestingly, we we we stumbled upon this website. So there's actually an answer, and had we known it, we would have been emailing it to the people who have been emailing us. Uh, and it's this website, I don't know if you heard of it, it's called okayclarity.com. >> Oh, I did hear of this website, but tell me I I like I don't know what it is. So, uh, essentially what they do is they've aggregated. So first of all, it's interesting because it's specifically for the Jewish world, okay? So and, uh, they aggregated a whole bunch of like psychiatrists, uh, therapists, coaches, nutritionists, kallah teachers. Yeah, like all this stuff. >> So really anything you could possibly need located on one website, aggregated for you. >> Yes, and like they did the vetting. So it's like you don't have to like email Kiddush Club Podcast asking for some advice. Right? [laughter] Like that's not the way to go about it. Or you're calling your aunt and "Oh, who can I call?" So they did that work, and it's it's pretty cool, because you can actually I mean, it's funny. It's it's serving like the frum world. I mean, it's serving everybody, but when you're when you're browsing their directory you can literally choose There's there's a filter for religiosity. >> Yeah. And by the way, isn't that an important thing though? Don't you want a therapist or a nutritionist that's on your wavelength? Yes, 100%. And like the the first one is frum open-minded. Then there's Orthodox, modern Yeshivish. This is great, by the way. We need this list of of different religiosities, and we could, you know, I as a producer, I'm going to take these and start putting my stories into different buckets. Like, "Oh yeah, this is good for the Litvish crowd. This is good for the Lubavitch, Sephardic, frum, conservative, reform, Chassidish." They have it all. >> Wow, that's I mean, this really sums up the entire Jewish world. >> Yeah. Like if you can't [laughter] find If you can't find your category here, are you even Jewish? >> Yeah, probably not. Probably not. But obviously you could also choose the gender. Mhm. >> Uh, very important. You could choose the location. You could choose like if you want to do it over Zoom or you don't want to. Because by the way, that's a big thing for people is they don't want to go into an office. Maybe they're uncomfortable. Maybe, you know, whatever. Sure. You could do it on Zoom. Right. It's It's It's as easy as that. >> But not only that, I think I see here a a tab for insurances. You can find a therapist or any provider that takes your insurance and you can just choose from that list. So, if you're suffering with anxiety or you're suffering with any other condition that you think can be helped which most of them can, right? It's just a choice. You can just visit this website. And by the way, when you find the provider that you're interested in, each one has like a video introduction, so you're not just reading a bio. You You get like a feel for the person. Like, you know, because if if I click on a guy and he starts saying I know exactly what your anxiety is. That's not for me, that guy. >> No, look, give me a chance. >> No, that That guy's not for me. That [laughter] particular Nothing I'm not throwing shade here. I'm just saying it's not my lifestyle. >> more on your wavelength. That's me. You know what I mean? So, check them out. They're okayclarity.com. It's really unbelievable. Honestly, once I saw that this was a a resource like that's my go-to now. That's it. I'm done. Okay Clarity, that's where I'm going. >> Bro, can I just say on behalf of everybody to please go Yeah, just to please find a therapist. Please. Uh well, now I can. Yeah. And hopefully in network. okayclarity.com Bingo. Okay, a couple shout-outs. Okay, happy birthday Donny Ness. You have the best Trump impersonation. Ooh, challenge. >> [laughter] >> Competition is on, accent guy. I have the best one. No one beats me. Hope we can continue to do the Casey dance. Yes. >> to hear more about the Casey dance. That's the honest truth. >> the Casey dance? >> I'm not sure. We can >> [laughter] [gasps] >> And happy birthday to Margalit, your number one Kiddish Club fan. We know when you're listening because we hear you laughing in your room. Wishing you tremendous success in everything you do and of course more of your beautiful paintings. Love, Mommy and Tati. Happy birthday, Margalit. Also, uh somebody sent in uh this cake and we're very Shout-out. Happy 15th birthday to Zev uh whose parents made him apparently a Kiddish Club cake. Oh, I love this. I mean, it's it's got the logo. It's got It's got the birthday special on it. >> the spectrograph. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's It's got it all. But But yet we're sitting here without tasting this cake. [laughter] You could have done better. You could have done better. Happy birthday, Zev. Okay, so now we can finally move on to the biggest news story which was maybe the third Trump assassination attempt. >> Maybe? >> [laughter] >> What does that mean, maybe? Okay, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. You know that like the number one trending thing was staged. I mean >> media. >> Look, if someone is going to say that anything is staged before they have a shred of evidence to it, I think those type of people are unwell. Maybe they need okayclarity. >> They do need okayclarity. [laughter] Okay, so let's first uh paint the picture. So, there was the White House Correspondents Dinner. >> Which by the way, Trump has skipped. Yes. It Well, more than that. This White House Correspondents Dinner, basically all the people from the media, they come for an evening. And what they do is they roast the president and they and they roast everybody in attendance. Yes. >> Now, Trump famously has called the press the enemy of the people. >> Yes, not only that, he like we said, he skipped every single White House Correspondents Dinner ever. >> Right, that's exactly why he skipped it. Because he said, "You people are all fake news. You're the enemy of the people. I'm not coming." For whatever reason, he decided to go this year, which is in itself puzzling. Strange. >> Mhm. Mhm. See? [laughter] Uh and while while the thing was going on and we have videos we're going to share with There's not much to play from from an audio standpoint. There is some audio. >> So, when the event started happening, the the issue, uh Oz Pearlman was actually doing some sort of mental trick on Melania Trump. >> Yes. And we have that video. You have to see the video because it's it's it's quite funny. Because in the middle of him performing the this uh trick you know, at some point shots are fired and people hear the shots. And you could see him like just looking around like, "Who's interrupting my trick?" You know what I'm talking about? >> Yeah, of course. Like Look at Look Here it is. >> he's a He's a showman. But it's not It's not just a showman. You There's an expression of disappointment unlike anything I've ever seen from an entertainer. Like, he wasn't It's not like a fear that's on his face. It's like, "What? What is happening?" >> getting to the best part. >> Exactly. Like, he was hitting the punchline. But at the In the same image, if you look at Melania, she looks deathly afraid. Yeah. And if you look >> She looks she's been through this before. >> Yeah. You know? And if you look at Trump in the same still he's the couldn't care less. >> It's unbelievable to me how chill this person is. >> It's crazy. >> How is he so chilled? He was He He He barely and in fact, you know So, one of the reasons they're saying it was staged, the conspiracy theorists, is because he was so chilled. They're like, "Oh, well, obviously he was chilled because he planned it." That's one of the things because he was so cool. Right. So, you know, if this was the only assassination attempt, I I get it, right? But we had one in Butler, Pennsylvania where >> Also staged. his ear was hit. >> Also staged. >> And he came up and he pumped his fist and he said, "Fight, fight, fight." Which just goes to show you that the fear doesn't register. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He He is not afraid for whatever reason. >> not afraid. And another thing that people noticed, so right away Secret Service came in, uh police came in. Uh you know, here's a video where they evacuate immediately J.D. Vance. Trump is still sitting there. >> This got me. This really bothered me because one agent completely passes Trump and go straight for J.D. Vance to get him into the back. >> You sound like you're starting to switch here. No, I just I This part I didn't understand. The only thing that I that my mind tells me is that that agent was specifically on J.D. Vance detail and his responsibility is the vice president, nothing else. >> Oh, that's good. That's good. I didn't think of that. >> Yeah, that's the only thing that That's the only thing that could make sense to me in my mind. But also during an interview, Trump did say he said, "They were trying to get me out of there. The problem was me. >> Yes. I wanted to see what's going like He didn't He I'm not I'm not leaving. I want to see what's happening. Well, he literally gave a press conference 30 minutes after it happened. He came out and he does what he always does. >> has FOMO is the is the point. He He was He had fear of missing out. He wants to see what's going on and he's actually resisting the agents, you know, for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Uh There was another reason that people were saying staged and it's I mean, this is just really dumb, but I'll play it. This one you This audio you actually can hear. It's Carolyn Carolyn Levitt who is the White House spokesperson. She was interviewed right before the White House Correspondents Dinner and this is what she said. ready to rumble, is he not? He is ready to rumble. I will tell you this speech tonight will be classic Donald J. Trump. It'll be funny. It'll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight in the [laughter] room. So, everyone should tune in. It's going to be really great. I'm looking forward to hearing it. Talk about Altif there. You know what I'm saying? [laughter] Or, and hear me out, or Or you're saying it was a Freudian slip. I mean, come on, man. This is so not [laughter] your type. >> believe this for even a split second. >> Okay. >> Obviously, this was not staged, people. I mean, come on. >> Okay, I just needed to hear the sanity come out of your mouth. >> Yes. Yes, it's It's not. Uh But you could you could see where people not Carolyn Levitt, you know, leave that aside. You can see the >> opening. I can see how how you can get here. I do. Did you see the video though of the one guy that just didn't move? Yeah. He was He was eating his burrata salad and he didn't [laughter] even He didn't flinch. Yeah, he didn't flinch. To him it's like a movie. Yeah. Yeah. He's just watching. >> They asked him about that cuz that was also part of the conspiracy theories. And he said, "Well, I have a bad back." >> [laughter] >> Poor guy. I was hoping they would take me OUT OF MY MISERY. NO, HE DIDN'T want to Okay, so it's worth mentioning that everybody got down on the ground. >> Mhm. Which by the way, I'm not sure that that's the best idea either. You can hit people on the ground. Yeah, but I would just play dead. It's not that It's not that. It's that you need to move in an unpredictable way. You know, I had a friend that a bunch of years ago was held up. He was a jeweler and he was like getting off a bus on a on a quiet road and someone said, "Give me your bag." And he said, "No." Didn't give them anything and he just took off. But he ran zigzag because you can't hit a moving target exactly what you're supposed to do. >> So, that's what I'm saying. How come we didn't see more zigzagging uh at this White House Correspondents Dinner? >> Okay, so it's it's worth mentioning. So, cuz we didn't really explain. It's worth mentioning. So, the shooter actually didn't get >> into the ballroom at all. Yes. But nobody knew that at the time and everyone was just like, "Get under the table." Like, I don't know if under the table is the best place. That's all I'm saying. I would have got down under the table and I would have started crawling out of there. You're saying crawling zigzagging? Maybe to the bathroom. I I would just get away. I don't want to be anywhere near there. It's It's like an electric situation. But the other thing is that Trump repeat We know this from other people and Trump himself said it in the press conference was that he was pushing for the event to continue. Yes. Repeatedly, once again, you know why? Because this was all part of the plan. Explain. Meaning he was He wasn't afraid. Mhm. And why not continue the the whole program? Well, if you set it up and it was staged, the the best thing for you to happen is that it gets shut down, right? >> No, he didn't want to shut down. He just wanted you know, maybe sympathy, maybe people to stop talking about the Iran war, you know, some big headlines that >> Yeah, but if you just continue like nothing happened, you're mitigating that. You're not giving people enough time to process and to realize the gravity of the situation. So, him pushing for a continuance, I shouldn't say continuance, him pushing to continue the event uh is is you know, just shows me that it wasn't staged. Exactly. >> Right. So, in the press conference uh this was I think probably the clip that that got the most plays afterwards. Uh here's Trump. He was asked if he was concerned about political violence uh and this is what he had to say. Are you concerned about political violence? This could be politically motivated. >> You know, I'm concerned about everything. Look, but I can't be so concerned that you can't function. No, I'm I'm here. Uh it's a dangerous profession. You know, I tell the story, race car drivers. I think it's very dangerous. So, you take 1% and then take about 10% of 1% just to break it down very easily. They die so much less than 1%. 10% of 1%. I think bull riding is very dangerous. If you take about the same 10% of 1%, much less than 1%, but if you take presidents, it's 5.8% and about 8% are shot at. So, nobody told me this was such a dangerous bu- profession. If Marco would have told me, maybe I wouldn't have run. Maybe I would have said, I'll take a pass. No, it's a dangerous profession. 10% of 1%. I got very confused. The all the math killed this for me, but he does think So many questions. He thinks he's a helicopter. You know what I'm saying? Like he thinks he's an action star and he's like his life is on the line every day. But >> Well, it is. Yeah, it >> [laughter] >> seems like it is there's a big butt there. >> But what's what's bull riding? Well, bull riding we know is a a super dangerous sport. >> What is he talking That that's like the like like Texas Southern like where they go on the like a bucking bull? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The bull tries to get them off. >> Oh, I was thinking bull fighting and I thought that was Either By the way, either one. Okay. Okay. >> Right? There was You see you I know you saw the bull fighter that was that seriously injured and he was a professional. Yes. Yes. And and you know, there's at some point, you know, >> Baba come in real life. He got Baba come in. He did. He really did. He got gored and not in a good way. >> Not in a very bad way. Uh yeah, and so that was question one question I had with the bull riding. You you you clarified it for me. Why couldn't he just say, you know, 1/10 of 1%? And I would have been good. But he he went into the you know, 1% and then if you say 10% of that, which is actually a smaller number. What? >> Yeah, I he lost me there, but again, this is an impromptu uh press conference on the heels of of of a a shooter coming into the White House Correspondents Dinner. You're going to have to cut him some slack on this. Yeah, for sure. But of course, it didn't take long. We all knew it was going to happen, but then he said it right at the press conference for him to talk about the White House ballroom. Of course. >> Yep. Of course. >> wasn't just him. It wasn't just him. Yeah, a lot of people Listen, it's the right. It's the people that are Trump fans because there has been so much opposition to this ballroom, which is so ridiculous. Like it's privately funded. Yeah. >> Like what are you making a a a a case about? >> And just to clarify for those who don't know, part of you know, the Secret Service as well as the police said that they couldn't uh secure the hotel the way they would have been able to secure >> a White House ballroom. a White House ballroom. Well, obviously. >> And it wasn't only the right because our favorite senator also said, came right out on social media right after and said, this is why we need the White House ballroom. Stop being baby something along those lines and just get it done. Yeah, he's not wrong about this. Look, I don't think that this issue should be the case that makes uh that makes it or breaks it for the ballroom. You know what I mean? I don't think this is the issue. It is a security thing. I get it, but this is more of a national pride thing. The White House grounds should have a ballroom. Yeah, I I I I don't think but I to me actually, this is the bigger issue. The fact that they can have you know, why should they be using a hotel? Right. Where there's guests I mean, there were guests. This this The shooter was a guest of the hotel. Right. >> Like why should that even be? Right. You're saying it's it's it's it's not the smartest thing to have the entire government basically. >> Like the entire Trump cabinet was there. Right. And by the way, if it was something more serious and they were somehow able to blow up the hotel, I mean, the government is in pandemonium. Yeah. So, uh and by the way, that's not the only thing John Fetterman said. I have a clip for you. I just wanted to play this quick one. This is John Fetterman uh being asked a question as he was entering the White House Correspondents Dinner. Listen to this one. I fully support killing everyone in Hamas. I fully support killing everyone in Hamas. And all the Iranians So, they asked about uh what's going on in Gaza and Lebanon and he says, I fully support killing everyone in Hamas and the Iranians. [laughter] Fetterman always bringing the he always bringing >> He just delivers. So, they they got the suspect. Uh they There's a video. We're going to include the video, you know, the security camera video where you see uh the suspect actually running right past security. He did get a shot off uh on one of the Secret Service. Thank goodness he had a I think it was Secret Service and I think he had a vest. So, >> wasn't just the vest that protected him. What was it? It was his vest plus his mobile phone. >> Really? >> Yeah, his mobile phone was in the vest. It took the bullet. Wow. I'm thinking Android. >> [laughter] >> I think that was definitely I think that was definitely an iPhone. >> No, I think it was Android. >> know? We don't know. We don't know. But if it was, that's like a great Best commercial ever. Best commercial ever. >> It'll stop a bullet when you need it most. Yeah, so we do know who the guy is. Cole Allen. Yes. Uh they did look into him and it does turn out that he is uh very anti-Trump. You don't say. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny because when right after it happened, I I had started texting people, you among them. Oh my gosh, third assassination attempt attempt on Trump. And people are like, well, don't jump to conclusions. That's not what this We don't know what it was. I'm like, come on. Like come on. You know. >> Third time's a charm. You know what I mean? We kind of know where this is going. It's also a little crazy that they keep trying to kill him. And he mentioned that, you know, look, they're only trying to kill me because I'm doing stuff, which which is a great point. I mean, you look you look through the you know, the history of who's been targeted, it's people that have been that have made significant changes. >> That's literally what he said. >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh but he came out of it Baruch Hashem, I will say Baruch Hashem, he came out of out of it without a scratch. So did everybody else, Baruch Hashem. Yeah. Which is So, it had a a good ending and we have to wait >> also the issue of the manifesto. Yes. >> He did leave a multiple page, I suppose it's just a letter. No, it's a A lot of these guys do this. They leave a manifesto. >> Because they want they want their point to be heard, right? He's doing this so that he can get attention so that he can get >> news people play it and give him exactly what he wanted, which means more people Baruch Hashem are going to do this in the future cuz they know they could depend on the press to read the manifesto. >> Right. Well, this one started a little weird. Hello everybody. Like I don't know if that's very like doesn't give me manifesto vibes. >> Well, he's not a professional podcaster, let's say. He's just a random He's a teacher, actually. Well, he's not a professional assassin, I think you mean to say. He's also not a [laughter] professional assassin. Baruch Hashem for that. >> Yes. But I got to tell you uh when as it was happening and when I saw the video of vans being pulled away, I'm saying Baruch Hashem that nothing happened to Trump and I mean it. Mhm. Because you know, I have a fear if Has ve shalom anything were to happen to President Trump, you have J.D. Vance in the wings and I that's not something I'm looking forward to. >> Right. Just in another aside, like this happened just as Shabbos was ending and we were almost watching it in real time. You know what I'm saying? Like it was like I'm looking at my clock and it's 8:46 and I and and it happened at 8:38. You know what I'm saying? You're watching what's happening in the ballroom as it's really happening. >> Yeah, and it's all reporters. So, the reporters themselves are are are sending pictures and videos. >> videos and they're reporting from their cell phones. >> Some of them are crying. Some of them are really afraid. Among others, Erica Kirk was led away. Um she was really hysterical crying. I don't blame her. That's PTSD. I mean, reporters started asking her questions and she said, I just want to go home. I It's It's It's heartbreaking and it's heartbreaking to see, you know, people like Candace Owens who just how they vilified her. She says that. They're continuing to to to call her out in in ways that are so mean. This is a widow and you just keep beating on her like she had something to do with it. >> Yeah. Yeah, you know. >> Like let her grieve. >> Yeah, it's just it's it's mean. That's what it is. It's just got No, it's worse than that. It's really, really disgusting. >> Yeah, I agree with you. Listen, we know that like a a widow Hashem takes care of her. >> Right. I was just going to say, Candace Owens claims that she's a religious Christian. Right. Has she not read the Bible? Like literally, it's in the Bible, Candace. No, but she she's a fake. She's a phony. And it's not just me saying that. It's Trump saying that. Trump By the way, he just he doesn't stop. He he's been going after Candace Owens, Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson. He actually shared on Truth Social a fake [laughter] cover of Time magazine. Do we even know if it's fake? >> fake. No, no, no. The cover of Time magazine is fake. Yes, obviously she wasn't vile person of the year. Time doesn't [laughter] have Time doesn't have that category. >> Vile person of the year and a very unflattering photo. >> I want to know if the picture is real. Is that a real picture? >> probably AI. Probably. And Trump writes, Candace Owens stock, which was never very high, has fallen a long way. Her attack on the first lady of France is despicable. I believe in this case without verification, she is an extremely He added extremely low IQ individual. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think that he's wrong, but there's also the case to be made where people like Candace and people like Tucker and people on the left, like the talking heads, they kind of encourage this type of violence. Uh yes, uh I mean, a lot of people were saying that, but I would hit back at you and say, yeah, I think it comes on both sides. I think the politics today it's it's both sides. I mean, look >> you see what's going on with Jimmy Kimmel? Yes. Well, that I think is deserved. We're going to play that clip. >> Mhm. Jimmy Kimmel really disgusting. If you talk about disgusting things to say, that's up there with disgusting things to say. >> question is, is it worth him getting fired? Does he deserve to lose his job for that? Because that's what the president and the first lady are calling for. >> Yes, I don't think so. We'll play the clip. I don't think it's it it it warrants him losing his job because I think let the free market decide. If people, you know, if people decide that this is what they want, so so be it. Right, I agree with that. So let's play the clip just so that people know what we're talking about. >> But just to introduce the clip, uh you know, obviously we mentioned that Oz Pearlman was hosting the White House Correspondents' Dinner and it's the first time, I believe in history, that it hasn't been a comedian. Yes, that's correct. So Jimmy Kimmel took it upon himself to do like a mock hosting of the White House Correspondents' Dinner and say what he would have said if he was running the show. Right. And this is what it sounded like. And of course, our first lady Melania is here. Look at so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. Yeah, that's disgusting. Yeah, I listen, I personally think that I I don't I don't like him. I don't think he's funny. I don't think >> Same. I don't think he's uh I don't think he's all there. He said she has the glow of an expectant widow. Now, he claims he just meant because Trump is old. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Yeah. Nobody's buying that. No, but look, he couldn't have known. Obviously, this took place before the actual White House Correspondents' Dinner. He couldn't have known that this was going to happen. >> no. Of course, he didn't know, but it's in such poor taste. >> Yeah, but he's always been that way. He has like in in place of hosting a late-night show, what he does is just pontificate from his platform. Right. Right. It just became uh uh a a venue for him to vent his political frustration against Trump. It's not funny. I don't think it's watchable. Whatever. Yeah, agreed. And before we continue, now is the perfect time to mention that if you are in the market for anything for your house, any appliance for your house, there's only one place that you should be going to and that is Town Appliance. 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And I think remember how that that whole fake news thing that said he fell asleep and they were comparing him to Biden. And you know what? If you see him in that clip and you see him 30 minutes later immediately with the press, let's continue. You're going to tell like how could you even compare? Like there's no comparison. And let me tell you something else. I think, and I'm going to say this, we said it as a joke before, but the more time that passes, the more I believe it. I believe that at some point people, Jewish people, are going to name their kids after this president. Oh, come on. >> I'm not kidding. Really? >> I'm not kidding. This man is like so ridiculously There's no president in history of this country that comes close. I'm going to read to you another tweet that he that he put out or truth. Quote, whether people like Israel or not, they have proven to be a great ally of the United States of America. They are courageous, bold, loyal and smart. And unlike others that have shown their true colors in a moment of conflict and stress, Israel fights hard and knows how to win. He like he knows what's going on with Tucker. He's attacking them relentlessly. He's being pro-Israel relentlessly. >> Yeah, I can see actually some Israeli people doing it. I can't see it happening in America. >> Why? Like I can I can see a Donald. You know what I'm saying? I can see Donald. >> Donny. Donny's easy. Donny's easy. Why? Look at the name Alex. It's in the the the Jewish world, very popular name and that's Alexander the Great. It's not a Jewish name. There's other names like that. Edward. King Edward is not a Jewish name. So I don't think it's so crazy for for the name Donald to become part of the Jewish lexicon. >> Yeah. Yes, I think he's going to go down in history that way. I I really do. Yeah, so I think it's it it's crazy. The comparison to Biden in terms of energy is ridiculous. In fact, there was another clip. I don't know if you saw this one. Trump playing tennis with Serena Williams. >> Did you think I would miss this? You didn't miss it? >> [laughter] >> So we're not going to play it because again, not much to hear. >> right? But he does take his shoes off and plays tennis with a with a champion in his suit. Yeah. And by the way, he does not have a bad swing. His swing I was going to say, his swing is way better than mine. >> Yeah, he looks like he's played before. Not so much his backhand. Yeah, the backhand [laughter] needs work. But you know, you got to give it to him. Yeah, he he definitely knows how to play. >> And I got to tell you, every time you have one of these assassination attempts, you're further cementing his legacy in American history. Like do they not understand that? Yeah. Yeah, 100% correct. >> Because he's he's he's shaping up to be an absolute legend. Yeah. You know what I mean? And not because of what he's doing, but because of the attempts on his life. Was there any other president that had three attempts? I don't know. I don't know the history that well. I'm going to ask I'm going to ask AI. No, there's not. Nobody had MORE THAN ME. >> [laughter] >> NOBODY HAD MORE THAN ME. I have the biggest assassination attempts. >> [laughter] >> I mean, look, whether you like it or not, it's a stat. Yeah, it's real. It's real and and and it just cements his legacy. But that doesn't mean, by the way, that he doesn't know how to, you know, bring the the heat to Israel you know, when when it's needed. We covered last time that he wrote all caps, Israel's prohibited from doing anything in Lebanon and now as things continue to heat up with Iran, I'm sure there's going to be more instances where he disagrees with Israeli policy. But in terms of support, there's been nobody like him. Yeah, hard to really hard to argue with that. Yeah. Uh other news, by the way, uh the Learing Center has been raided by the FBI. Finally. [laughter] Yeah, it's finally been raided that and 22 other places. Uh finally, they are doing something about it. So what does Ilhan Omar have to say about that? >> Oh, you know what she has to say. You were You were at the clip. >> I did. Okay, let's play it. Here it is. The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants during World War 11. >> [laughter] >> She did quickly correct herself. She went straight to 11. Yeah, yeah. We went straight from World War II to World War 11. But I guess that's because of the two Roman numerals, which she obviously didn't read very well. Yep, but it doesn't matter cuz the internet doesn't forgive and doesn't forget. >> Yeah, no, she's going to be hearing about that for a while. >> to be haunted. Okay, let's quickly go through the latest in Iran. So first of all, Trump has in the latest news that we have by the time we're recording, Trump informed the press that he says that Iran informed him that they are in a state of collapse. Yeah, not a good state. >> [laughter] >> Well, depends who you are. It's good for the United States, not good for Iran. He also said, and this I thought was was was weird. He's saying that within the next few days, Iran's oil infrastructure will explode from within. Yeah, because they're not letting them exploit anything. Right, no, so it's more than that. So they're They're actually taking the oil from the oil wells. And what's happening is the pressure underground in the oil [clears throat] wells themselves is building. Yes. >> like a, you know, you take a 2-liter bottle of soda and you shake it up and that pressure builds and then you keep shaking and it builds and it builds. >> Because the oil keeps coming out of the ground. Well, it wants to, but it has nowhere to go. >> to go. So, they've been trying, they've been using older storage units to try to to store the oil because it's not being exported, but like you said, in a couple days that runs out and they're going to face some like irreversible damage to their oil infrastructure. >> Potentially, yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, there are some boats, it seems clear that there are some boats that are evading the blockade. Mhm. Through the Strait of Hormuz. >> Strait of Hormuz, but for the most part the blockade is crippling Iran in a huge way. >> Mhm. In fact, Trump now has given the military orders to shoot and kill Iranian boats if they encounter any boats that are trying to do any type of mining. They have orders to shoot to kill. >> Well, yeah, listen, those people are trying to kill innocent captains. Like, you know, ship captains that are just trying to to transport oil. Like, when you lay a mine, that's a death sentence on potentially somebody that's driving or sailing a boat. >> Absolutely. There was also a lot of talk that that Trump has his back against the wall and you know, he's really scared of Iran. So, he came out and he's posted the following, "For those people, fewer in number now than ever before, that are reading the failing New York Times or watching fake news CNN that think I am {quote} unquote anxious to end the war, if you would even call it that, with Iran." Anxious to end the war. Like, that's it's laughable after this assassination attempt. >> Exactly. >> [laughter] >> Like, you see this man, he's pretty chill. >> anxious. He says, "Please be advised that I am possibly the least pressured person ever to be in this position. I have all the time in the world, but Iran doesn't. The clock is ticking." >> Yeah, and by the way, this highlights a point that I know I've made before, that the media is is is despicable to me because in in place of being patriotic and rallying behind the president in wartime, right? Cuz it is a war. Like, I know Trump says, "If you can call it that." He wants to call it an operation. He doesn't like to call it a war. But, like the press is supposed to be rallying behind the president and bringing the country together. And it and they're doing the exact opposite. They're doing everything they can to divide people and to divide the country over this issue. Yeah. Yeah, agreed. I think it's despicable. I really do. >> Agreed. Agreed. I mean, it's always been like this, but it's it's never been to this level, I feel. >> Yeah. Has it always been like this? >> Yeah, politics has always been dirty. Mhm. It always has been. Let's move to Israel a little bit. Sure. So, first of all, did you see that? I know you definitely saw it. I mean, this went viral. Once again, you know, fodder for all the anti-Israel people. The story about police that detained a young man in Modi'in who had a yarmulke, a knit yarmulke, a kippah seruga, and it had the Israeli flag and the Palestinian flag. They detained him. Then they cut out >> [laughter] >> They cut out the Palestinian flag from the yarmulke. >> And they gave it back to him. >> it back. >> [laughter] >> This cannot be official policy. There's just no way. Exactly. >> rogue a rogue police officer that must have done this. I cut this out not because I am against the Palestinian people. >> Oh, no, that's not Oh, I I cut it for Naftali Bennett. What? Because all his kippah is the size of a shekel. Yes, [laughter] it is. So, this one for him. Oh, they're going to repurpose it. Exactly. That's what I had in my mind. >> But, it has a Palestinian flag. This okay because he's now joining the left. >> Ooh, shots fired. >> [laughter] >> Ooh. Shots fired. If you want to be on the left, we're going to give you the left. >> [laughter] >> So, what you're referring to is the fact that Bennett and Lapid are now on a joint ticket. Yeah, that's what I heard. Yeah, that's pretty I mean, it's interesting to say the least. I mean, Bennett is a guy I mean, he does wear a yarmulke. Mhm. Lapid is like the number one anti-religious guy in the government. >> I don't know what to make of that. Yeah, listen, we're going to see how this alliance uh fares. Yeah. Yeah. In other religious Israel news, so I know you you heard that Netanyahu has now canceled the Lag BaOmer event in Meron. Yeah. A lot of people upset about that. >> of people upset. Because partially because there there are other gatherings of more people. Yes. And those are being allowed. So, how come Lag BaOmer is is getting is getting trashed? >> Exactly. Two members of parliament who from the from the right from the religious party said, "No restrictions at soccer games, so why at Meron?" >> Right. Yeah, which is a great question. Well, I mean, look, I don't know is are soccer stadiums more set up for that amount of people? Like, Meron isn't designed for that. >> Because like one is like an like just it's a stadium. >> No, but Meron is Think about it. Like when they when the terrible event happened, right? >> Yeah. We covered that. Like >> cover it. What is it, 5 years ago? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, like there's so many elements to it. There were people who were trying to get away, so like a stadium is just an enclosed area you could control. Meron is a place. Like, you know, there's the people getting there. There's once you're there. There's the multiple areas. You know, people are doing their own thing in different areas and it's impossible to control. Yes, but I'm not sure that I'm understanding your logic. Like, in that situation there was a block and then people ended up getting trampled. >> Yeah. Right? That could happen at a stadium. It could, yeah, that's true. >> what I'm saying? If there's a rush, if God forbid there's an emergency, you know? Like, that's always a concern is that people will get trampled if if That's why they have these these rules that there's only allowed to be a certain amount of people in a room, right? Yeah, but going to an auditorium and they have this red sign, at least they have it in New York, like maximum capacity, right? >> So, you know, I think it really is a concern anywhere and it's not something you're going to be able to avoid if God forbid there's an emergency, you know? Whether a stadium, whether in Meron, it doesn't matter. Yeah, that's a valid point. Okay, so this was this went a little long. Of course, we had a special guest, so we do have like a ton of stories here. Like, literally a ton of stories. I have including an amazing clip from Jeremy Boring talking about Tucker Carlson. And when I heard this clip, I was like dumbfounded. Yeah, I've never seen you I've never seen you so excited about a clip. But, we're not going to have time to get to it. >> have time. I can't go back into Tucker now. We we already you know, we did that. We did that. We don't have time. There's a ton of stories. If you want to hear the rest of these stories, you want to hear these clips that we didn't play yet, you know what to do. Go to the website kashclubpodcast.com, become a subscriber, it's super easy to do, or you could go into the Apple Podcast app and you could just subscribe right there. Of course, you know, you could call our hotline and you could join there as well. Okay, so before we go, this is a story that's coming out of Sri Lanka. 22 Buddhist monks were arrested at the airport because they were trying to smuggle drugs. >> [laughter] >> Monks. These are Buddhist monks. >> Right. So, I do wonder what type of drugs they were trying to smuggle. So, it was cannabis. Okay, I'm a little surprised. Yeah, but but the article says that it was a very you know, a strong type of cannabis. I don't know what that means. Neither do I. Okay. Thankfully. >> [laughter] >> But, I you know, I find it funny. This this didn't make like worldwide news. Now, here's the the thing. 22 monks are trying to smuggle drugs. Imagine it was Imagine it was 10 rabbis. Yeah. >> Imagine 10 rabbis at the airport. >> Times. Yeah, forget about it. Tucker Carlson, everybody, this would be the the the biggest story in the world. No, you got it all wrong. This is a lulav, my friend. [laughter] This is a lulav. I know it's not the time, but you can prepare. You can prepare. Looks very different. >> [laughter] >> And and the crazy thing is not the first time that these Buddhist monks got in trouble. In 2022, every single monk at a Buddhist temple in Thailand was defrocked, right? >> Woah. Yeah, yeah. >> That's serious. >> Serious. What happened? They all, every single one, tested positive for meth. >> [laughter] >> I mean, it's almost unbelievable. But, think about it, if you're stuck in a monastery for your entire life. You know what I'm saying? You need the highs and lows. You [laughter] just you need something to make you feel alive. You know? And now they have no more robes. Like, could you imagine you only know this person in his in you know how the the monk robe looks? >> Yeah. It's like orange or it's like burlap sack type and it's got a hood in the back. And now this guy's wearing a t-shirt and jeans. It's funny that you mention that because in the in the pictures, because they had these robes, if you look at the pictures of them They're covering [laughter] They let the court they're covering their heads. You know how perps do that. >> Because what? They weren't sentenced yet to their defrocking. So, they still have [laughter] No, these guys weren't defrocked. >> Uh-huh. The other guys in 2022 >> they covering their faces? Because they're going >> They're going in for a criminal Oh, but they didn't get defrocked, you're saying. >> get defrocked yet. >> right. So, we don't know what's going to happen. Right now, there's some type of disciplinary measure in the works. >> Yes. Yes. Yeah, I mean, look, people do look up to monks. Not me, personally. You know what I'm saying? They meditate. That's all they do. And look, maybe maybe the the the the drugs help. Oh, come on. I don't know. >> Meth? I tell I will I will say this, you should pick a point man. Not all [laughter] of you should be carrying drugs. >> Yeah. Yeah. And not all of you should be on meth. There needs to be an adult, you know, present. >> Yes, but if you're should take the fall. You know what I'm saying? And not all of them. It's a little ridiculous. They just have no 22 >> They just have no 22 of them. Yeah. >> 22. >> 22 monks. >> Yeah. Okay, so that's all the time we have this week. If you're interested in advertising, what better place to advertise than right here with Kiddish Club Podcast? And you can do that by sending an email to [email protected]. And we'll see you guys next week. 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