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Rabbi Shimon Russell
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First keynote address by Rabbi Shimon Russell
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pleasure to be here again
each time we come
my wife and i
come to give and each time we go home
we go home with more than we gave
just said that that we're here to be
honest with each other
to uplift each other to support each
other to be honest with each other
and i personally in my life have never
experienced anything like this islam
together
humble
truthful
struggling
and doing hashem's work
i'm not taking it for granted
there's one thing we can all agree on
when you have a struggling child in your
home
your home your family is in crisis
you're in crisis mode
that's for sure
there are those
years gone by
who
and i challenge them this goes back
25 years
and i challenged them very stuck when
they told me
that children in crisis
are coming from dysfunctional homes
it wasn't my experience
i didn't think my wife and i were
particularly dysfunctional
at least not more than other people i
saw
and what i
recognized and started
my journey of being honest and speaking
out about this
was
let's put the cart are we putting the
cart before the horse
can we put things in perspective
it's true that when
your kid is in the middle of the
struggle
and you don't have proper hydra
you don't have a philosophy
you don't have yet a picture
of how you're meant to be handling this
chances are you're doing everything
wrong we all did
we all did
and so we threw our homes into
dysfunction
usually that's when
some well-meaning person pointed out ha
ha take a look your family's in
dysfunction
the fact is
none of us were prepared no one taught
us
we never got classes
ever about what happens when it goes
wrong what happens when it doesn't work
out
what happens when your kids get abused
and you don't know about it
from various sources of trauma that
happened to them did anyone ever tell us
that
was there a manual or a book written in
advance that we were all required to
read
just as we got married just as we start
having children just in case not
so one thing we can all agree on
that when you have struggling kids in
your home you're in crisis mode and this
is the subject i want to attend to
i've been asked you know i take the
feedback at each conference people tell
me what they want to hear more of
this
this is um
working together
this is the the subject we're going to
speak about today
about working together
parents us
working together to help our children
so here's my thinking let me see if i
can build a picture
and then we can put into that picture
what we're going through
and how to understand our struggles and
what to do about it
but the primary goal of this
presentation is us parents this is not
about the kids
this is going to be about us
husbands and wives
for those who at this stage of life do
not have a spouse
think about
the significant people in your life you
interact with
that you work out life with think about
them as we talk
for the rest of us
this is a this is a journey of us as
husbands and wives
as parents of children
what is it that we have to do with
ourselves because we're being asked
something
enormous
this
challenge of our children
needs to take us to a place
beyond excellence as parents
as husbands and wives as spouses
this is us working together
so here's my thinking about
what i call our psycho spiritual
functioning
who are we what do we come back with
so the fact is we're all born we come
into this world
to fix ourselves
not the neshama
my he didn't efficient
often reminds me that we come back with
the nishama tahirah as we said phil in
the morning tikkun nishama is not
exactly precise the clippers on the
shamans what we're wrapped with
because alaka nisha mashin hassan to be
tahereh
we're all tar
kids us
but the wrapping the clippers the mouths
of around us
needs fixing
and so we all come back
with impediments none of us are perfect
we all come back to
we need to fix ourselves in this world
the svara makhadesham
both hasidis
everyone talks about it
gone talks about it yonah
other places
that we need only to take a look
at what
our struggles which are various that we
pulled to
and which mitzvahs do we find so
difficult
to get a glimpse into why we're here
if we're honest with ourselves you see
when we see our struggles and we see
what we're struggling with
that's what the storm is saying that's
why we're here it shouldn't be
embarrassing
it should be exciting
we should be seeing an opportunity okay
that's why i'm here that's what i got to
work in it's not in the way as we always
say
it is our way
nothing to be ashamed of
i mentioned the other night something
that frustrates me so deeply
when the citizenship
and he mentions the three reasons
that we're here in this world
adam what are we here in this world for
lassos
and by now i hope the world will be
doing something about the third one
lahmad binisayan
lamid
you know we've been busy with mitsubis
and we're busy busy with aveda but how
busy are we honestly
with la ahmed binisayan
with having a deep relationship to
and understanding those niconis are our
gifts
in this world
to help us become who we have to become
to me it's a plea at summer we don't
teach this
we don't recognize it and we almost see
it like the the saying this are in the
way
and as we know
for us at keshavshi
our problems are not in our way
problems are our way
our problems are our way
and we have to see that and understand
that what we're doing here why are we in
this world what do we
what's our job
so we come back with that picture every
single one of us has certain flaws
certain tikkunim that we need to go
through and life will take us through
the various stops on the way
that will force us
to address
to attend to those flaws
and it's just nothing to be embarrassed
about
we hide from that stuff
instead of embracing it and
understanding our weaknesses of why
we're here that's what we're here to
work on
we have to stop being ashamed of it
but instead understand it and recognize
it and embrace it this is why we come
back this is what we're doing here
but it gets a little worse
what happens when we come back
what could
happen so we all had
everyone had
serious challenges
in their childhood in their life we all
went through stuff
i don't think of these things as
disorders i'm going to go through a few
of them now to make sense
i think of them as life is the natural
course of life
they're not
they don't make us disordered
they're not mental problems
they're just the reality of living in
this world
for example let's start with the most
obvious one i mentioned before this
negates us to so many of us
which
is still affecting us to this very day
the holocaust
we think we got over it we didn't get
over it
you ask any therapist
working with our community today and we
all know that the holocaust is high
became is still there the damage is
still there affecting us we all know it
we all know families
who are still wounded
terribly wounded
by what happened to our grandparents
parents and grandparents in the war
for example
there were those families
and who can
even comprehend
what it was like and what it felt like
but we understand that many families
let go of love
they let go of love
to survive they had to
they didn't love in a natural way
because love was too painful
it was too hurtful to see
loved ones taken from them and it was
like
they shut down love and replaced it with
acts of service
they were really good
at feeding you
many of you know that right you got fed
they were good at sheltering you
if it was raining the amount of clothing
you had to wear and umbrellas
snowing forget about it
they smothered
with protection and caring
but what the children didn't feel was
love not love
that's how they
survived and so many families their
culture
became built around
that we don't
love kissing all that stuff i know
families to this day that have a hard
time the parents giving a kiss to friday
night benching the kids and kissing them
is like
you know we don't do that
that's very condition stuff we don't do
that
and the kids are craving it
craving it
and the shamans are craving that
closeness that kiss that love
and it becomes like a cultural
like a cheetah
but it's really a distortion
and then there were those
whose reactions
we're just full of anxiety and fear
shelter protect any moment
the nazis emotional any moment they
could be coming
we have to watch and guard and protect
and shelter and hover over our children
stifling their ability to grow up as
independent healthy confident people
the holocaust left a horrible
indelible damage on our community that
we are still digging out of
and it will take generations
till we're free
for many families the damage of the
holocaust became your cultural base on
how you're living
and how you're functioning and how
you're bringing up your children
whereas it's really a distortion
it's an unhealthy distortion it was
necessary i get that i mean totally
and we have to be wise and aware and
knowledgeable
so that we can get rid of that
distortion and we can be free to love
because our children need our love our
spouses need our love
without love we don't thrive
can i just ask if all the phones can
make sure your phones are off please
thank you if you could
here's another one
growing up in israel
anyone who grew up in israel or your
parents grew up in israel see people are
grinning by the way i see it
you see i'll tell you a story i was once
on a united airlines flight this is a
true story an amazing story my wife and
i were flying back from israel on a
united airlines flight and it may have
happened to you it happened to us they
didn't have a kosher meal
no no it happens
as the stewardess came by
and was giving out kosher meals she
offered us a regular meal and we said no
no we ordered kosher and she snapped
back at me no you didn't you're not on
the list
okay
it's fine my wife and i looked at each
other we laughed we said it's okay
i and i said we are on the list we
ordered a coach but no you didn't
she snapped back it was like crazy it
was like weird
and we said it's fine
we don't have to eat we're good it's
okay
and she was like
irritated at us that we wanted this
kosher meal
we went to sleep
in the morning i got up
and i went to the back of the plane
and uh i asked for a cup of coffee i
said is it too late you know you know
they were landing i said excuse me i
asked excuse me englishman you know what
can i do i was polite
there was no embarrassing i'm not from
there because i say please and thank you
i'm sorry okay
so i asked is it okay can i get a cup of
coffee please and she said it was this
stewardess was there with all the
seventh of the united airlines and they
say sure
she makes me a coffee i say thank you i
really appreciate it
and then she looks at me and she said to
me these words she says you know you're
different
and i said what do you mean
she said well you're so polite
i said what do you mean i was like i
hadn't stopped what she meant
and she said well this is the television
flight
she said it's unbelievable she said they
punished them in united airlines by
putting them on the televip flight
i was shocked i said what do you mean
she said
well people are so impolite they're so i
said is that why you spoke to me the way
about they said
yeah
you know everyone's so impolite so tense
the soul
so i said to her
look i'm embarrassed
i'm embarrassed that you're telling me
such a thing
i'm telling you straight up is wrong and
we shouldn't be impolite but if you want
i could explain it to you
if you want to explain it
and she said to me okay and now there
were nine of them the whole seventh of
the plane in the back listening to
russia in the back of united airlines
and i said to them like this again i
want to repeat it's wrong
and there's no excuse we ought to be
polite
it's not respectful i apologize
but if you want to explain it to you
i said
after the holocaust
when the nazis mushmon tried to kill
every single one of us destroy us off
the face of this earth
the united nations voted barely and gave
us a little bit of our land back
a little bit they gave us that we could
survive
and you know what happened the next day
after we got that land back
all millions tens of millions of arabs
tried to kill us all the next day
and then they tried again in 1956
and they tried again in 1973
and then they sent their families and
children people onto our buses with
bombs blowing us up
in the streets killing us
where terrorists try every day to kill
us
just because we're a jew
and then there's people who
want to travel and they get on a united
airlines flight
and they're not polite about this cup of
coffee
i said they're trauma victims what do
you want
you got a whole country of trauma
victims
give them two weeks they'll be in
america
they'll relax they'll say please and
thank you
you have a whole country of trauma
victims
of people who grew up in a certain
toughness
a certain
you know a protectiveness
living within a veil of trauma
and that goes on generationally too
and it's hard to see it in yourself
that you feel reactive
if you've lived there long enough you
know exactly what i'm talking about it
doesn't take long
then i want to say a sensitive one
the world of bali trouba
the world of bali trouba is a
fascinating world
because
most bali chuba
erlah wonderful bali chuba
discover
that when they're young
they're very much wanted and welcome
in everyone's homes
everyone wants them everyone loves you
they can't do enough for you actually
and then you get married and they're so
happy for you
and then you have children and they all
gather around your kiddish and your
brace and you feel like
so borussia so wealthy so valued
and then your kids go to school
and you discover that people don't want
to send their kids over to your house
because there's
exposure you know that word exposure
here there's a lot of nodding heads so
you know exactly what i'm talking about
the exposure no one prepares you for
this
how is someone who grows up out of the
community
and they're desperately trying to do
god's work and bring up their children
in a healthy way and send them to
moisture satire so they should be imbued
with tyra and yira
when for example there's a little tiny
girl
who wears little tiny what they call
them bobby socks what is that what they
call them
right
when is like the cut-off
apparently everyone else knows except
the bali juba
everybody else knows when you're not on
you know there's a mitzvah in the tower
thou shalt not wear those socks anymore
that everyone else knows and only the
idiots don't know
and guess what
when god forbid there's you know
there's like they're a day late in
changing over to tights or whatever they
wear
they're condemned as if like are you an
idiot you didn't know what are you doing
and so
in such a cultural environment of
confusion where there's so little hydra
little guidance and very little
sensitivity
what there is is
the veiled criticism
looking at people as if they're stupid
which almost always
without fail
translates
into
the shame and embarrassment of parents
who will then
react to their children to micromanage
their lives
to control them to get those stupid
socks off now because we're embarrassed
and we feel like fools
where's the sensitivity
where's the kindness where's the
understanding there isn't there i assure
you there isn't
and all this translates all this stuff
the trauma the stress
of the things i've described so far all
translates into our children
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where we want them to be model citizens
so that we don't face our own shame and
our own embarrassment
but we don't get triggered in our own
trauma place
and it all hurts our kids
here's another one
this one i really hope i don't offend
anyone so they wish to stealth and i was
governing earlier that i won't
children of yes
i'm not going to say in other words can
i just leave that one
i'm cringing i
yeah
should we all just like sit with that
one for a moment
it doesn't have to be bad by the way
oh but the the burden the children of
yikus you know in my office children
with certain famous names
have told me stories
of their experiences growing up
how they hated themselves in that name
little kids who walked into class and
the reverse said stand up you know who's
here
and they meant well
everyone means well
the damage so profound inside
unrealistic expectations for such
children
that just bury them
in shame and embarrassment feeling i
can't be that and i've disappointed the
legacy
i've let everyone down
then of course there's
the twenty percent minimum
and i say minimum of sexual abuse
victims in our community
the 20
minimum the one in five that we know
have been sexually abused in our
community
where even to this very day
the struggle with denial about this
sugiya is as alive today as it was 25
years ago when we first started working
at it where the denial is so deep
the difficulty to face it honestly and
humbly
the lack of recognition
that the true kiddish hashem
is in being honest
about ourselves and our weaknesses
being honest about our struggles is the
true kiddish hashem not hiding not
pretending
how many kids walk around and how many
adults you know every time i speak
whenever if the subject is on sexual
abuse
how many adults i see in the community
or adult survivors of childhood sexual
abuse still hurting and struggling
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still finding their lives difficult
their marriage is hurt
and wrecked because of it
and the wounds run deep
as any survivor knows
and we're still
as a community
we're both like we're not there
we're not honest
we're trying to be but we're not
and then let's add
what happens to us when we're coming
when we come back
let's add to that
all the kids
with either true learning disabilities
or with de facto learning disabilities
you know problems issues struggles in
life that simply
for stop the cup
where you simply can't have an open mind
to be able to learn properly in school
because you have soros
thesaurus
medical physical emotional
financial soros in the home
and the kids feel it and they can't
learn
and in our world
if you can't learn
well we know what that does to a person
we know how destructive that is
what happens to us when we come back is
all these kind of things happen to us
when we come back and impact our lives
on top of the tikka neshama that we came
back the ticket on those clippers that
we came back before we came to the world
and then we come here and have to face
all this
this is not disorders or both sides this
is life
this is our very life this is how we
live
did i leave anyone out
if i did do me a favor come tell me like
you're a mystery i'd love to study you
so we have these two layers on us what
happens so what happens to us
when we come back to this world
with our
clippers our tikkunim the kamen is
why we're here
and then we go through these struggles
these life issues by chance we were
brought up in israel by chance we had
holocaust survivor parents and
grandparents
by chance we were abused
obviously by chance this is the
ambitious world and we go through these
things and that's vita struggle for us
to fix ourselves
and then we're meant to have like
healthy marriages and bring up like you
know nice kids
so what happens to us
so i want to say
and
i'm open-minded if anyone wants to come
and
after uh after the weekend think about
it first through the weekend but if you
want to discuss it with me if you
disagree with me i'd like to hear
we discussed the previous
i think at the very first keshinashi
conference
i mentioned something i'd learned from
dan singles book
parenting from the inside out the four
s's
all right so we're all familiar with
that you've watched the josh's i'm sure
safe secure scene and suit and we talked
about it as a concert the reason i liked
it he mentions it almost in passing the
reason i liked it so much is because
that model safe secure that we bring up
our children making sure we try and help
them feel safe secure seen and soothed
is a model of career in my mind is a
model of creating resilience
that means that as we go through the
struggles of life that babysitter puts
in front to us
if we can put into our children
that model of safe secure scene ensues
if we could
develop those four theses with them
and and
help them grow in those four areas we're
helping create resilience that means the
the power to bounce back
we will help them bounce back despite
what happens and in fact even grow and
become who they are because of the
problems
we're giving the the tools for life when
i saw it first in the book it blew my
mind i hear it was almost like agav by
me it was it was i saw it as america's
as a a concept it was so profound
so what happens when you don't have
which is true for most of us let's be
honest most of us did not grow
up with a solid bedrock of safe secure
seen ensues from our homes
i believe
that i was one of those fortunate people
that my mother there shalom gave me all
for made me who i am i think that's why
i am who i am
because she gave them to me
most people are not zaika
to have all four of those in their
childhood
and so they're not resilient so what
happens to us
as we go through life this is the
kiddish i'd like to share
and i'd like everyone to really drink
this in because this
may save your life
what i'm about to say this may be
one of the most important things you're
gonna you're gonna hear
that could change the course of your
life
and give you a focus
on how to develop yourself in a way
that's always been elusive
this may be it
what i believe is as follows
everyone
when under severe stress
when we feel threatened
everyone regresses
we all regress
and essentially conceptually
we have two states inside us
that we regress to
those who've done the therapists here
and others who've done somatic work will
be familiar with what i'm saying but i'm
going to say
a focus in this work that i'm not sure
you would have heard before maybe
i believe that we all have two states
that we go back to
and if we think about ourselves
but maybe better is think about how our
spouse sees us
we might be able to find those states
more easily
one state is like a five-year-old
well here's the two one is a
five-year-old and one is a
fourteen-year-old
i wanna explain
the five-year-old in us is when we act
like a baby
when we realize
that we've been threatened
criticized unloved
uncared for actually the five-year-old
reacts
when there is a profound lack of safe
secure and soothed
those three
when you feel a lack of safety or
security or being soothed and cared for
especially by your spouse
we regress into like a babyish state
and if we look at ourselves honestly
i think we can all notice when we've
sort of
been that sulky moody
babyish
you know just not myself that child
you're actually when you when your
spouse could even say to you you're
acting childish or when you know you're
acting childish
there's a wounded little child that we
all have like a five-year-old inside and
when we don't get our safe secure or
soothed enough
we regress and become that baby that
child
we're looking to be safe
and the child takes over
similarly what is a 14 year old
i used to say 15 but it's now 14 i think
with you know over the division a year a
year earlier
the 14 year old is when a child
actually thinks they've become an adult
like you know they're big
you know boys of 14 can be as big as
their mothers
right so as far as they're concerned
i'm a player in the adult world
and they want to be seen
they want to be noticed
they'll debate the kishkas out of you on
everything
whatever you say they'll have a comeback
yeah but why but what but where but when
who says but what if
they debate and argue
because they want to be seen it's part
of a normative development of a human
being when you grow up
you want to separate from your parents
ultimately
s
a person leaves home that process of
narrows of separation happens around
adolescence of 14 it's there by 15 for
sure you know ask any 15 year old you
know i always say to them please can i
talk to you they say why i say because
there's nothing you don't know you're
15.
this is great i have opportunity to
learn everything
14 year old is this child who wants to
be seen so badly
you march of them makhab them value them
they crave that need
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and frankly
most of us didn't get enough of that
when we were fourteen
and so there's another wounded part to
myself
that i regress into when i'm not seen
when i'm not noticed not taken seriously
not thought of
where i regress into that 14 year old
and start fighting for my needs and
arguing and debating
and trying to get my needs met
these two childhood states
accompany us throughout life
and when we're under stress
when we're under tension
that's where we go
we go back to one of the and it's not
pretty
ask your spouse
what it's like when you regress to that
place just ask them tonight
privately
to watch how you feel when they answer
you here's the interesting thing
watch your nervous system like just like
i'm serious take a deep breath and watch
your nervous system
when you ask that question of your
spouse do i ever act like a baby
am i ever like argumentative and
debating and don't agree and just fight
with you ever
no honey never not you
you're mamish wow russell doesn't know
what he's talking about you're who
but watch what your nervous system feels
like when you ask your spouse that
question and you satan please be honest
with me and tell me
it's not pretty
we've talked many times i'm building up
to something i hope you stay with me on
this journey so you'll see where we're
going
we've talked i gave one of the
keshinashi conferences we talked about
trauma and how it affects us
you see
we have here a beautiful thing
called a prefrontal cortex
it's the front part of your brain
it's fabulous
it helps you be empathic
it helps you have attuned communication
that means when you actually listen to
your spouse and hear them
it helps you be sensitive and thoughtful
altruistic compassionate
that front part of your brain
is where you get stuff done
it's where you have relationships that
are fulfilling when you're there
but when you get threatened
it's not exactly an on off switch
it's more like you know a dial
but as you get threatened
you go out of that part of your brain
into the limbic system
where the only thing you really care
about is am i safe
in that place
correctly so
the question of safety is all that
counts
in that place you appear to others
to be self-centered
maybe even selfish
focused only on your own interests which
is the way hashem made it it's the way
it should be when you feel threatened
but just imagine if we don't own
the fact that this happens to us
frequently
more frequently than we would be willing
to admit
and acknowledge
and we actually regress into one of
these two states quite frequently
offline
in a place where we're disconnected
because of safety
because i just want to feel safe
not to own this
is to guarantee i keep going there
and when you go there you do not create
an environment of safety in which your
children will be able to flourish
we have to own this and respect it and
understand it
if we're going to create safety for our
children
so this is life
under normal circumstances normal
circumstance this is life this is not
you know this is nothing to do with you
know mental health this is life i'm
describing how people live
so how do we deal with it under normal
circumstances
we recognize we reflect upon ourselves
and we use our void of hashem
we use musa
we use our marriage
because there's nothing like your
marriage to reflect back to you what's
wrong with you
nothing like it
and we use our vedas hashem a musa a
marriage to help heal this this is our
journey this is life
this is nothing to go into therapy this
is just the way
life is
or should be
where we struggle through life trying to
get rid of that ego
when we struggle through life trying to
keep ourselves
online
so that we can be connected
so that we could be other centered
center on someone else and not in
ourselves
because when we're offline i just center
on me
because i want to be safe
so we use our voids hashem to get rid of
that ego
we want to identify the flaws in our
self and we see them when we go off when
we act like a baby when we debate like a
14 year old or act childish like a
five-year-old and get pouty and sulky
and moody
this is all a process for us to see
ourselves perfect ourselves grow so we
can find the reason we're here
and recover from whatever it is that
akaneshwar who puts us through so we may
become who we're meant to be this is
life
recognizing this helps us see what we
have to fix
and most of all
it helps us if we're honest about it it
forces us to develop new skills
new strengths
new talent
new awareness new understanding new
compassion new kindness and sensitivity
to others it forces us into a road a
journey towards our own perfection
that's just
it's just awesome
it's awesome this is life
this is the way life is
the way life should be
where we're constantly working on
ourselves trying to grow
and trying to be honest if we can about
those two child states within us
where we go off
an act babyish
or act teenage-ish
this is just life
under normal circumstances that's fine
we can take our time doing that and the
journey of our life is that that's what
our life is cannabis man son said you
know by the end of we all hope we got
somewhere
you know halawa i'll say on the you know
might say but he got somewhere alive you
know halawa
but when we have the sugiya that we have
when we're gifted
with our struggling teens
with our struggling children
we have to
address this regression this is not a
joke
this is not something we take our time
with
this is not something we can afford just
to spend our life working on
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when you have struggling children in
your home
this is your work
this is your
kardash
this is the most important thing you can
do with your life and you cannot afford
just to do it the rest of your life and
hope by the end of your life you got
somewhere
because if you don't address this
then you're not going to be able to help
your children
because frankly
the greatest thing that gets in the way
of us helping our children is ourselves
let's be honest
it's us
it's our own struggles and regressions
and difficulties and our imperfections
and ego
to get in the way of us doing all this
wonderful work we know we have to do
with our children to help them back for
us
we can't be patient and wait we have to
throw ourselves aggressively into this
work
to work on ourselves and get the ego out
the way and understand our own
regressions and what takes us offline so
that we can work on those things so we
can recover from it because our children
need us to
and if we don't
then we can never model for our children
healthiness
we can never really help them back
because josh's as we all know that
doesn't work with our children
we all tried that right we've all given
that up right if you're here you gave up
droshes
i remember once i gave it to russia it
was probably one of my early josh's it
was fantastic
it was if i may say so
it was a fabulous joshua
it took about 15 20 minutes
our daughter was in baltimore at the
time
she called me
from a park from it was days before
mobile phones so it was a uh
corded
phone box on the corner of some park she
called
and i gave her wonderful jesuit russia
wow did i give her a good rusher
and at the end of the 15 20 minutes when
i said to her so
what do you think about what i said
nothing
and i called and called
until someone picked up the phone said
what do you want who is this
i gave that russia to the wind
in the park she probably left about
three seconds into it
we've done drushes we finished with
brushes
brushes won't work
modeling on us
watching us
seeing us
working on ourselves
seeing us working on our regressions
working on maintaining ourselves as
healthy people
that is the essence of avoiding hashem
the essence
to work on my middles
it's the essence of all of hashem
when they see that
maybe we have a chance
and the worst part of that regression
is when we trigger each other
when husbands and wives when the parents
of our children
observe us
triggering each other
that's the worst
that's the most damaging for them
that's the most unsafe life
our children can have
when they see us arguing
debating fighting
regressing
protecting ourselves which i understand
and i again i repeat i described all the
natural processes that unfortunately
bring us to that regression
and bring us to act in a self-protective
fashion when we're offline i understand
that
but when our kids see that
it creates the greatest unsafety for
them
and takes any desire they may ever have
to want to be part of our lives it takes
it from them
each other
is to use our marriages our lives our
relationships with each other
as the primary tool
for helping our children recover from
their hurts and wounds and struggles and
crises
the primary tool is us
and it's our marriage
it's our relationships
that help bring our children back when
they observe and see what they see
it helps bring them back to being
healthy people it helps them recover
from their own traumas
and without it it is exceedingly
difficult for them
i pressure can't
overstate
how important this is
that we acknowledge and face
our own imperfections particularly the
regressions that we do
when we go offline and we start feeling
threatened because remember i started i
said we're in crisis mode without
struggling children we always feel in
crisis mode and in crisis mode we get
threatened and when we get threatened we
get scared when we get scared we get
controlling
and then we put each other offline
and our kids need us to be online
compassionate
present
if we're going to help them
so what's the four steps i want to give
four steps towards recovery from this
how do we do this
how do we do this how do we get
ourselves back online
is everyone familiar do you all
understand what i mean about offline are
we clear about that
offline when you know you're not
yourself
when you know you're acting in a
threatened state when you don't have
access here where you should
first of all you have to recognize you
actually have those two states
first you have to recognize we all do it
it's a matter of degree some do it more
some do it less more frequent infrequent
more intense less intense but everyone
does
everyone does it
so we have to be humble enough to face
it
that we actually do this and we do
regress and we do go offline we have to
be honest that that's what we're looking
at to take control of that experience to
help ourselves stay present
we have to accept
that when you're offline
chances are you're hurting the person
you love
if you want motivation to really work on
this it's knowing that when you're
offline
when you're regressed chances are you're
hurting the person you love
you're hurting them
and not only hurting them but you're
hurting your kids
because your kids need to see that love
between you
that respect between you so we must work
on this
we have to commit ourselves to healing
these wounds
if you know you have them
heal them
find someone
whether you need therapy or you can do
it yourself or sell self-help in our
work with struggling kids we don't have
options and choices we have to deal with
this
we have to
we don't have choices we can't wait and
just shove this aside
if you know you go offline if you know
you regress
and you know it gets in the way you have
to deal with it
and the fourth thing is
learn
a way to ground yourself
learn a way to bring yourself back and
be present
some of you i believe have learned
grounding am i correct about that some
of you have done work on that did could
i just have just for myself
does anyone have anyone who doesn't know
everyone who knows exactly what i'm
talking about when i say grounding
technique do you mind just a show of
hands
okay so you're going to forgive me but
we're going to do a grounding right now
for those of you who know grounding and
enjoy grounding
enjoy yourself
because you know you will
for everybody else i'd like to teach you
because what's the point of us talking
about it if you don't take home this
tool
so you're going to do this well let's do
this together can everyone get
comfortable
just sit in your chair put down whatever
you're holding
and let's get comfortable
is there any way i can sit and do this
either would i end the microphone can i
hold one now
can i hold a microphone with that is
there another one working
yeah yeah i'd like to sit
should i take it off and hold on
oh he's gonna
he won't be you know what i'll stand
i'll do it standing
i'll do it standing till he comes i'm
gonna do it standing till he comes if
you can find him i'll sit
okay if you can but let's do this
together i put this down yeah but the
camera i think is up there
and i'll be down there so
so i'm going to do this standing
you can see it if i sit one second let's
have a look
you see me
i'll put the leg turn yeah do you want
to shake it
gosh i didn't expect all this mess you
want there's a wire
okay
no no i don't want to i don't mess with
it you know what i don't want to mess
with the camera
that's good okay so let me just let me
just
okay so let's just do this let me
explain what we're going to do
yeah
can i i just want to sit facing them and
talk can i do that can you get the
camera on me
you're the best
he's gonna move you're gonna move the
camera down
amazing
technical people here are the best by
the way
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okay
is okay we're ready can i sit can i sit
down
good
okay so again i want to repeat
for everyone
who knows grounding
enjoy yourself this is going to be
geshmac
and for everybody else
let's go home with a tool
but when you get incredibly stressed and
you recognize you're going offline
you understand offline means you're not
here anymore it means you're in your
limbic system it means you're in fight
and flight it means you're in a place
where you just want to be safe you'll
know it by the way
just
notice how upset your spouse is with you
now i don't know if you ever had that
experience me personally never i mean
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i had the best teacher
but this is a gift from both sides such
a gift
it's such a beautiful gift if you
recognize the gift of your spouse is to
reflect back to you
when you're not yourself you ever had
the feeling i'm not myself
and you know you're hurting your spouse
you know that
just see it take a look at their face
their facial expression you're hurting
them
you're offline chances are you're
offline so we're going to learn
grounding here's what we're going to do
okay so get relaxed first of all
everyone get relaxed are we okay here
we're going to enjoy this right i know
you didn't expect this but this is good
stuff
this you can take home with you
a gentleman i recommend you do not do
this in the middle of schminister
okay so here's what we're gonna do
okay feel your feet on the floor
just wiggle your feet a bit so you can
feel the feet just feel the floor
and you can feel yourself sitting in the
chair and i like to do it with my eyes
closed
i recommend that for everyone but you
could certainly
if it doesn't disturb you
so feel your feet on the floor fill
the chair the seat underneath you your
weight on the seat
and feel your back against the back of
the chair and feel
held see if you can just pause for a
moment
and just feel held
just feel yourself held by the chair
let's take a few deep breaths
and maybe like just wiggle your
shoulders a bit just to get the kinks
out of your neck and your shoulders
take a few very deep breaths
and feel yourself on that chair
let's take a few more deep breaths
just notice
if you feel any tension inside
just be aware
tension you feel like a little
stress a little pain maybe in the chest
stomach you feel a little little stress
somewhere just notice it
just be aware of it
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and breathe deeply
just deep breath breathe deeply
and see if you can draw your mind
to a memory
a memory of a place
maybe a vacation
somewhere you went
an object maybe
something that when you think about it
could even be a person
it could be someone in history maybe
but when you think of
that place or that object or their
vacation that scene
it brings tremendous relaxation and
happiness to you
and just breathe
and see if you can notice that
and think about that place for me it was
a fishing trip
with my father shalom i was 15
we're in the south of england on a
shingle beach
i can hear the waves
as they lap up onto the beach
i can hear the fox iron
from the lighthouse down the beach
can hear the seagulls
i can taste the salt
in the air
i can feel the warmth of the sun
as it comes through the clouds
see if you can find a place
a memory
something from your past
that when you focus on it
when you just train your mind to think
of it
you feel that little knot inside you
relax
you can feel the tension melt
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as you sit and just breathe
and take your mind to that place
and just enjoy that moment
this is your resource
this is your gift
that when you feel terribly stressed
when you feel offline
you take a moment
and you go to this place
and you focus your mind only on that
great memory
that wonderful scene
that peaceful picture
and breathe slowly till you bring
yourself back online
until the threat has passed
until you feel yourself become you again
this is a simple grounding
consider it a gift
to yourself
that when you're under terrible stress
and anxiety and fear
before you react
before you say anything
before
you
act out of your five-year-old or your 14
year old
go here
take a moment and go to this place
and then return to life
okay
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hello
hello hello
hello
we're there
it's offline we're very good it's
offline
are we online no okay i'll go here and
oh
hello
okay so i really hope everyone enjoyed
that
take that home with you
when you recognize you've gone to that
place
take a moment it doesn't take long
just ask for just a few minutes
and go and sit somewhere quietly and
come back online
and then we go back to life
we
are under crisis
mode
almost all the time
we live in crisis
we have to be respectful
but because we live in crisis
chances are we will frequently go
offline
respect it don't be afraid of it don't
be ashamed of it
but take a moment
to ground yourself
so we can then go back to life
with the prefrontal cortex back online
where we can have a tuned communication
where we can really connect where we can
be
kesha
davshi we can be in cash air we can be
connected
because that's what this program is all
about
is teaching us how to connect and
reconnect with our children
and the person you want to connect with
most
is your spouse
modeling that connection with your
spouse
is the greatest gift
you're ever going to give your kids
there is no gift greater
there are no
bombs
gifts
you know
allowances
there's actually no drugs or anything
else on earth
that benefits a child
even in their mind
more than when they observe the love
between their parents
it's the most healing and stabilizing
thing we can offer our children
and that brings us to the title of
today's presentation
working together to help our kids this
was
a preamble
this was an introduction
so you can understand why it's so
crucial
this subject
of working together to help our children
because without it
it's exceedingly difficult
to see the paris results we look for
what time do i have to go dalio what
time
okay so let me introduce an idea
and then we're gonna afterwards go into
the meat and material
here's an idea
my good friend rabbi schwartz who joined
us in mesa bush and he joined us here
for the first time
maya did nephesh
he and i talk a lot about these in yanum
and he has a favorite
joy
when he speaks he used to speak as a rav
about shalom by as he gave it up
and he and i feel the same way
he likes talking about mach like a spice
not shalom bias
it's our favorite subject why
because much like a spice is really the
issue shalom is easy
the problem is when you're having a much
like us
that's the problem when you're different
when you disagree with each other
especially us who are in crisis mode and
frightened and terrified and start
disagreeing with each other
the question is how do you have a
productive much like us
how do you disagree
in a way that can help your children and
not hurt your children
and it turns out actually
it's the best thing in the world much
like is
through that we teach so much to our
children
the stabilizers and makes them feel safe
and secure by them learning how we
disagree how do different people get
along with each other and respect and
love each other this is so
meaningful and powerful
for us to help our kids recover
and to come back to healthiness
there are two common outcomes of mush
lakers bias
one when it doesn't work out very well
and one when it does
when it doesn't work out well
it leads to regression
at least of feeling threatened
it leads to criticism
to blame to shame
to argumentativeness
and that almost always forces a
regression on someone
to protect themselves because they feel
threatened and criticized
it takes them to a place of
unhealthiness it takes them out of the
prefrontal cortex
machelechus bias not handled properly
takes us to a place an infantile
regressed state
where we certainly can't help our kids
in that place
impossible it puts us into a fight and
flight it brings out the worst in us
let's be honest when we're in
a massive where we feel threatened and
criticized
undermined
it brings out the worst in us because
basically what we're trying to do is
protect ourselves
that's
the outcome we want to avoid
what's the what's the desired outcome
the desired outcome if we learn
this properly or this is what we're
going to be discussing this and
now and in the next session
the desired outcome
is that
it's goof for the much macholicas
between you
that creates love and harmony between
you
and love in your home
it's the very fact that you're different
and you feel differently even in a
crisis mode about what to do or what to
say or how to handle a situation
where you handle it properly
that actually creates the love
that you really want between you
and the security and stability of your
children of their lives in your home
it's the difference between you that can
bring you to that love
when we're as we've
you know we've talked about this many
many times
that
define me more than i can love you
right the theme of how we try and help
our kids as they defy us and we love
them back
more
through their defiance it's dafter when
they're defiant that we can heal them
because if they're compliant
then they're just doing it for us
they're not healing
but when they're defiant and we love
them back
and we love them strongly that's when
they heal
so the process for us is to learn
to respect the reality that we are going
to disagree with each other very
strongly
as husbands and wives we've talked as
other josh as we've said in previous
years the chances of us getting along
naturally is
zero
men and women were made by robonautical
not to get along naturally
and it's that process of us working on
each other or on ourselves rather
to respect and connect and love and care
and tune in
while maintaining who i am
it's that process that actually creates
love what do we say
i think we said it almost to every
conference because it's so crucial
love is the emotion experience or
feeling that occurs when
on a consistent basis
husband and wife
are able to put the others needs
before their own needs
when the two sets of needs are in
conflict
if your two sets of needs are not in
conflict
you don't create love you have pleasant
life maybe but that doesn't create love
but when the two of you feel strongly
differently
about anything in life
and you have strong feelings
and you work out how to attend to each
other's needs and work hard to put the
other first
to respect their needs and you both work
at it
that creates love
and it's that kind of love that our
children need now if we're going to help
them through their parties
if we're going to help them recover
if we're going to help them survive they
need to witness and see this and feel
this
otherwise everything else it just
doesn't work
in practice
what does it mean
that
we're going to disagree with each other
and work out how to meet each other's
needs what in practice what am i doing
i'm getting the chance to recognize
that i'm not always right
now that's a novel idea for some people
but the fact is
what is the chance of me being always
right
the fact that i feel strongly a certain
way about something
that can't make me right
and what's so interesting
is that the chances what's the chances
of my spouse agreeing with me
fully
with
what i believe is right
zero
so in a healthy
marriage what we're working towards is
understanding that the first thing i get
to realize is that i'm not always right
unless like as i said
that's a novel idea
for many people
because we hide behind the belief that
we are always right
and when we get married we very quickly
realize it's not true
when we embrace that truth and we go on
the journey of discovery
to realize i'm not always right and on
the contrary my spouse can teach me
and i want to learn their truth
as i go on that journey i free myself
from my ego
you know i free my i do my job in this
world i move on that journey to fulfill
why i'm here in the first place
but most of all
i get
to realize
that i was threatened
and therefore offline
by the fact that my spouse thought or
felt differently to me about something
crucial something with the kids
something with the family
and i get to realize
that i can stay online
i can stay connected
i can honor
their point of view
their feelings
and stay connected to that by respecting
it
and the magic of love starts to happen
as long as i stay locked into my own
belief of me being right
then i don't have the magic of love
i won't experience love
but true love comes to a couple to a
relationship when you're willing to step
outside your own ego
and respect someone else's point of view
and embrace it and in and love it and
accept it as equally as you accept your
own
and that's when love happens
and imagine the benefit and the gift to
our children
when that happens what is love then
it's the
acceptance of the other person your
spouse the acceptance of their right
to feel differently to you can i just
say that again so you get that
the deep acceptance of the right of your
spouse to feel
differently to you
is what creates love
and what we're going to discuss now is
this is the heart of the crisis
approach
whether you call it twisted parenting
crisis
whatever working with our children
the heart of this approach
is the ability of us
to bring love true love into our homes
where our children will want to be close
to us
they'll want to stay connected to us
they will want to learn from us they'll
want to be in our world in our daladamus
whatever that means
because we've created a loving
environment and there's nothing more
meaningful for them than that
and the place we create that is between
ourselves husband and wife
when we create true love in our homes
we create the foundation the fabric on
which we build
crisis
and unless we do that first the chances
are that all the well-meaning
interventions may not work
so i think i'm going to stop here
and we're going to pick up on exactly
how we do this
what is the process
next in the next session thank you very
much