Meaningful Minute at Kesher Nafshi

[Applause] welcome to keshara nafshi live we just had an unbelievable shabbos here in stamford connecticut uh this is the sixth annual kashanovshi event i believe shabbaton i'm joined here by orlando i think it's your first show this year as well right first shabbos but it was probably one of the most amazing showbusters in my entire life it is and i guess for people who don't know about kesha nash and what they do how could you sum it up for people it's it's a community i feel like the end of shabbos it's a family of jews from every walk of the life see them lit fox in every type of every type of fish and we're brothers because we're united by a very unique and special challenge which is that we have sons or daughters or multiple sons and daughters who have challenges in their yiddish guide and their emotional life and we just come together the shabbos everyone checks in their baggage at the door yeah and we just spend shabbos like brothers and sisters it's it's it's you can't describe this experience unless you're here exactly and and if you weren't here you missed out i mean this was unbelievable the the lineup you know incredible lander jacobson and jason like there's so many superstars here i saw the the flyer for this event i said this is something i need to be by this is unbelievable and for those who weren't here how was shabbos like what was that feeling i'm not sure if there was like more inspiration and more connection than food or maybe more food there's a lot of food so much there's a lot of food there's more food i'll tell you something crazy i'm about to fry and i hear this guys like it's like 12 39 he's still eating and he says we could just eat a whole shot so we could more more serious like it was it was like off the charts in terms of you know the presenters were amazing everyone was it's like everyone's authentic like yeah i gotta share with you just one sure please so that's what we're here for i left my hat on like one of those counters over there twice i left my hat there both times i came back it got replaced by a strangle no some guy put his hat under my hat ah usually you know they put your head up that's the kind of guy everyone cares more about the other guy than they care about them so i i walked in here with a black cat but i'm leaving with a strong mom like that's that's that's i'm so excited the stream was just worth more money so i noticed you got the long launch yeah i've got the computer going this drive will maybe maybe if i sell the strymo i can afford a mortgage in the five towns probably um if i if i don't then whatever we'll see i think was gonna do a mortgage in the five thousand eleven to five takeaway what's the takeaway um from the shabbos for you first of all that like every single person that's at the shabaton kind of seems like a regular person they're successful you could tell people are professionally successful socially successful and sometimes you see families and you're like oh i wish i wish that that was my family we all have our struggles we all have our challenges like they say here in the district we love our peco yep and the most amazing thing is every person here is doing so much for their children to make that peckle a little bit lighter that is i feel like i should just get a bracha from every person here and i'll just have i can live the rest of my life just on being here for shabbos absolutely incredible set up perfectly right showing us thank you so much for joining us you did a great job thank you thank you i really appreciate it all right and we're gonna welcome up our next guest all righty thank you ah what is close now i know i've made it what is this i'm sitting next to nachi gordon okay so i've made it okay well why don't you why don't you tell everybody who you are where you're from my name is yitzhak kisager i live in lakewood new jersey i'm sorry to work for art scrolls yes and shout out to the lottowitzes of course our own yeah and the rest of the crew at art school i'm just going to write for the ted as well uh which is a unique opportunity but we're here also i think i think you're in a book am i mistaken i wrote three people you're in a book you're in a special book that if kids are reading that is true well i wasn't going to say it's my claim to fame but but if you can figure it out you just just think kids books maybe an uncle book if you can you can you can cash in a free shots at artsgirl.com uh okay check it out um so how was shabbos i i'm so when they asked me if i would appear on this panel where you were here for a couple of minutes so of course i said yes because anything keshian actually asks you say yes my only hesitation was that i'd get too emotional i'll be honest to you shabbos was incredible first of all you did a phenomenal job today thank you moderating with four giants on stage an amazing conversation there wasn't a dry eye in the room like rabbi landau said so poignantly everyone who's here the shabbos even those who are here in a professional capacity check their baggage at the door i just met a parent before who said they don't want to leave because it's like a safe cocoon in here there's no judgmentalism there's just support guidance unconditional love i think it's it's it you said it perfectly um this is what my first job is here and i've been to quite a few conventions even in this in this very hotel right but the feeling was just so different from from thursday night to friday to shabbos everyone checked their ego at the door you walked through that that door there was a certain vulnerability that existed yes you're saying that people we need help people don't mind being vulnerable and it's it's really an incredible thing if i could say i think that every parent no matter who they are no matter who their children are could benefit from kesha nafshi obviously this weekend is designed to help those who need help but here we are surrounded by some of the most incredible parents educators speakers people of been through difficult times those speaking from the trenches it's just an unbelievable thing it is it is this is like this is like the nba all-star weekend for torah yeah no yeah like you walk down i would say this is the all-star weekend right here incredible right here and the the session friday night rabbi russell were you there that was that was i don't know how to put it into words there's no way to really describe to the viewers what we're able to experience here on shabbos um i think that if you've never heard of kesha nashi before i think it's safe to say that this organization would not be able to exist 10 years ago because the world may have not been just there yet but the fact that they're here now they're the ones who are changing the world they're changing stigmas they're breaking down walls breaking down barriers if you have a kid who's struggling that doesn't mean you need to hide it and you need to keep locked in your house and you can't get help and you just have to just take the pain and keep it bottled up inside there are hundreds of people here today that are telling their stories regular people regular people they david in your shule they probably sit next to you and they're telling their stories how amazing is that it's it's it's incredible the children whose parents are here this weekend are the luckiest kids in the world simply but i don't know what to say really unbelievable i sat next to giants giants literally they're giants of character they're they're growing themselves they're allowing their kids to grow and and i think they're being mush beyond the people around them also because when they go back home they're spreading that message of understanding of tolerance it's just tremendous growth like rabbi solomon said today so beautifully it's also walking out of here understanding that it's older abundantly orchestrating this for our benefit in some way shape or form no matter who we are every person situation is designed for their ultimate benefit and we heard so many practical messages messages of patients messages of celebrating the small achievements the small successes i heard i heard yeah these messages are applicable across the board no matter who a person is and even in our personal lives we have to learn to in ourselves our own small personal successes and celebrate those and allow us to grow as if they hashem and you know that that's really why this weekend will enable people to walk away and become better people better parents better friends just overall let me ask you nahi you're asking me what was flipping the table what is this what was your takeaway just one thought that you thought was exceptional from what you heard i'm i'm actually really bad at telling over ideas as they were said i was coming from shul to my wife and i my brothers are and i always try to tell my wife exactly what i said and i just i have a problem like giving it over but i'll tell you the just the overall ideas that i that i was hearing from brother kalish or ben shushan russell is that for for parents right especially with parents who have children are suffering you know what look at all that you've done right that's a just because your kid is suffering doesn't mean you messed up and and you did something wrong and you're here there's always room for improvement to be a better parent and to to uh you know right the ship and make the situation as best as possible but look what you've done right as well celebrate celebrate you know uh you know the award yourself accolades i i think you're right because you have parents here who have very difficult situations and yet they get up every morning they put one foot in front of the other and they're an inspiration to other people and that's no simple achievement it's phenomenal it's monumental it's it's world changing they they recalibrated the way they approached enough even if we weren't brought up that way and things you said you made a good point maybe kesha navi could not have existed 15 20 years ago and the ubuntu loyola enabled people like adalia miller to found this organization at a time when the world was ready to accept it that's absolutely absolutely right again i i said this before i said this during the session today here with my wife we barkham have you know one one child and she's younger than two years old and in mitchell you'll see tremendous amen amen being here um standing in a room with hundreds of people these are the parents that we could only hope to be like the amount that they're sacrificing for their children to take a weekend today a full weekend thursday and people are leaving tomorrow afternoon workshops sessions for what for what you can easily say you know what my child rebelled and he's in this situation in that situation and they're pulling me off the stage it's like college game day anyways i think that you know it's it's just the the strength in this hotel right now the parents in this hotel are the most inspirational people out there because they walk through the store and they're they're devoted to being to be better and to helping their kids cope with whatever they're going through that's what it is and then it's a tremendous resource for parents parents who maybe didn't have places to turn to for guidance and today they have a place they have kashanovshi it's here to help people it's here to guide people parents across the spectrum should make sure to get a hold of the videos from this weekend yeah young parents older parents experienced parents parents with married children they should make sure to get ahold of the videos watch them learn the lessons from rip shimmer russell from rabbi y from all the others and i don't want to take up too much more time here thank you so much i want to thank you enough for everything you do for claudia's role you're a one-man physique machine oh wow whatever you do keep doing what you're doing thank you keep inspiring us keep spreading meaningful messages and thank you for having me foreign thank you so much thank you so much and we're so excited to welcome our next guest you know what i think i will how are you how about you introduce yourself to the people who are watching i'm so excited to be here with all these tired people people we had such a wonderful shabbos that enough should bring meshiach what what do you think is the the takeaway for shop from shabbos uh if you had to sum it up into one lesson is that the oil i'm here everybody is feeling everybody else's he gives somebody a tutor he doesn't give it to him unless everybody who feels pain deserves to feel the pain so therefore the more friends somebody has the better chance he has that his pain should go away and that's why it says if you have a dog you should tell somebody else tell somebody who's your friend so it's marshmallow from russia that even if he can't help you even if he doesn't have an etsy for you just the fact that you have a friend that he also feels bad for you will make the dog you should go away that's what the goan says everybody around it around if he doesn't deserve to feel bad it's not going to happen to this person it's beautiful that's beautiful and i think the the people here are have all become closer and together more united from a shabbos like this so many people are going through the same tsar and going through a lot of pain joined together i think that that does a tremendous thing absolutely if you wanna if you want me to give a small message i have a small message to give the oil on which i didn't get a chance sure to say by shaloshidas not that anybody stopped me it's just that i felt that the oil was already itching to you know there's so many drushes so many speeches this just sent so many speeches that a person can hear but i wanted to say that the heiliger prime kanyevsky we have such as here that we live in a generation that we have such a good like when he was a little younger he used to have he was in his 50s already he used to have a seder with his tata his hailey guitar the stifler gun so he used to learn with him after minha for an hour every day one day lebron told his father that today he's not staying for learning because he has to go to shabba brookhus yusum is having his luchas and he wants to go to the chevy belkas of the usa make it houston happy so they don't mind he wanted to say goodbye to his father but his father was still doubling tremendously and he noticed that this type of guru he was the good old adult that he was doubling longer than usually so he after when he finished he went over to him and he said tata what happened how come you're dabbling such a long tremendously today is there any special service in cloudy cyril he said listen my son he told me he's not going to learn with me today so i doubt that he shouldn't get weakened he shouldn't become ugeshwart in his learning and abhain was 52 years old at the time so he asked his father so when did you dabble to me in the whole shamanism there is no place where you dabble for children right when when do you dabble where did you happen to me so he said by my dim we say we deut for the future generations that's when it happens for you so i would like to say to everybody here and i do it myself that when you're dubbing human estrogen and you get to doing lidoid by muy dim somebody had told me that the reason we do it by murder is because when we thank hashem for our children that's when we should be misparallel for them so then we should take a moment and start thinking and being this follow there's nothing more important than parents can do for their children than to feel it and to doubt i'm carrierski who sees hundreds of people every day for 50 60 years already so many different issues that come up he always comes up with an idea when an eighth what they should do but when he doesn't find in the car what this person should do for this particular issue he says madaf miss palazzi and i think that's the biggest aids of everybody talk to the reborn he wants to hear your thrillers and he's going to answer you i mean i mean thank you so much for joining we really appreciate it very welcome thank you you didn't ask me any shy list they told me they're going to ask me questions we go easy we go easy on the people who join thank you so much thank you thank you amen i mean thank you so much all right moving right along as you can tell this is a super smooth process where we got people in and out thank you so much for joining us tonight good luck good luck if you just introduce yourself so everyone knows who you are my name is uh ann friedman i live in jerusalem i work with people for 30 years wow and beaujolais i had this here i was invited to take a part here and it's amazing it's amazing uh refrigerator what do you think is the takeaway from a shabbos like this uh the one lesson that people walk out with or that you are gonna walk out with what is that lesson for me it's sharing being together with people who go through a pain in their life and for me it's very touching to be with them and to share with them and to listen to them to try to help and to try to comfort and i see it as a big big skier and it helps me personally to touch people to be with people plain simple to be with them and their pain to be with them and what they go through and that's all i can say in in the 30 years of experience what do you think is the most important thing to do for a parent who's struggling with a child with yiddishkeit if somebody has a friend let's say who has children that are struggling is there anything they can do or say or they shouldn't do or shouldn't say to their friend many things they can do and more things they shouldn't do right usually we can never understand really and profoundly what the person goes through when he has pain in his life when he has a problem with his children what we have to do is show empathy really try to connect to the pain the person has it's like a person carries a burden and if we connect with him we help him carry it makes it easier for him what the person shouldn't do is belittle make it small say it's nothing and don't take it to your heart we can never we should never take away the pain and belittle the pain and there are many things that people say not the right word and it's always true when a person goes through something in his life people out of awkward they feel awkward they don't know what to say but often people say the wrong things the wrong person and we have to learn how to listen to people and not judge the people and try to ask them sometimes that i think is to say my heart goes out for you what would help you what would help you right often people ask me they tell me their parents say is there anything that could help you sometimes it's only the listening sometimes it's advice and a certain thing how to accept it so usually the right thing is to ask the person how can i help you i'm ready to help with anything how in your in your opinion over the last 30 years how has claudia stroll's you know excess i guess acceptance of children who are struggling has changed over the last 30 years especially with you know enter kashanovsky into the picture uh it's hard for me to answer i know it would be maybe popular to say that people changed uh it's painful some people do not know how to accept it and now i spoke to people so much pain because neighbors don't know how to accept and they say the wrong things there always were people who didn't know how to react and all of us have to learn and ours is a place to learn to teach people how to accept the pain i i thought there's so much pain going on but people who lost one child two child somebody more there's somebody who lost the most and there is amazing wilner gooen there are so many children jewish people who are off the terrace and it's so painful for the reborn shalom but their bonus loyalty loves us the way we are is the usher and samayak mikhail so said the one who has the most children who went off the data is that a bonus alloy alone so it's painful and we feel the pain and we can understand that we can help one another support one another the ibiza health should give care for people it's painful it's not easy there's anything there's nothing a person can say to make it it's nothing it's a pain an ongoing thing but there's just a shame that bunch of annoys and leo of koya people should be making themselves and everybody with what he listens everybody has to give him his share and then the last question i have is if there is a a set of parents at home right now who have a child a child is struggling and they're keeping it you know bottled up they they aren't you know in touch with kashanashi they're sort of worried to go down that path and to enter that parsha what would you say directly to them if they would ask me i would try to first to show them i understand it's understandable some people really don't know how to cope it's difficult it's overwhelming i would try to motivate them to share and to try to come out because the more a person hides the shame grows bigger the pain grows bigger when a person opens up and a person dares to share and dares to come out with them i mean when it counts it doesn't count people are people and some people will always look and we have to try to see what's good for us and it's always easier if you do not have to hide living with the secret is a terrible burden and it's painful it just makes the pain bigger thank you so much thank you thank you so much for joining us okay as we move on you can get the idea that this shabbos was really an incredible shabbos and we're now being joined by a tremendous fellow tremendous from power flight am i correct and we all know that power flight is a big big help of what we do at keshanawshi if you just you know let everyone know your name where you're from hi i'm from called lakewood very little chateau called lakewood not many people know about it i saw you here the entire shabbos looks like you were soaking it all in having a great time going to the sessions we weren't here i didn't go to every session every session i had this i had this bad luck this weekend where every session i walked into was over like seven minutes later i don't know i guess i missed like when they put up oh this is the session and i just you know same thing by davening but yeah oh that's what it's called yeah luckily that people here have luckily they had a kebab union so it'd be really hard to miss you know and every ass we could feel about what would you say is that the takeaway from this job is for you like a lesson walking out of this store tomorrow what's the feeling so it's interesting that this is actually my second time being at kesha nakshi the first the first event that i was at was actually in meshbush which is my introduction to kashanavshi and all honesty i never heard about it before and i happened with mazel i saw it in the army magazine quick shout out shout out shout out to the frankfurters i i saw it in there and we called and i didn't know anything about it but kesha nav she changed our life changed our perspective changed how we deal with with our children and it was tremendous so we went to keshanovshi and our family grew and i come you know billie and her from a very very large family and uh large like extended family i don't i barely know my first cousins let alone my second and third and then we went to kashanovshi and we got another 192 people in our family wow and then we came here now and i'm just trying to think you know that when we make our next simcha we need another thousand invitations but it just comes with it but it's really unbelievable to see when you're in a crowd with with so many people and you know ima and sarah we're all in this everybody here can look around i told people i said 99 percent of the people here are in the same parsha and the reason it's not a hundred percent is because there's a caterer and there's some other people who just happen to be here but every single person who is here is here because they want to be here actually not every because they want to be here they didn't realize that they want to be here some people were dragged by their spouses kicking and screaming i myself dragged probably 15 people there challenging them saying hey if you come here and you tell me that you didn't get at the very least your money's worth i'll reimburse you for all of it and i have no doubt i'm not giving anybody back any money tomorrow because it changes everybody's life when you don't realize you sometimes you sit and you're drowning you don't realize that there's life service all around you there's other people in the same boat everybody here is in the same boat you have an opportunity not just to learn from the people who get up and give speeches and everybody has their own peckle they really do but to know there's other people when you sit and network i think that's the most physical that we get it's not just from the speakers who are unbelievable and they're very talented and they give a great message but it's not just for the people that we speak to they give us and so we're able to hazak other people as well and you really do it that's we spend most of our time doing just finding somebody and saying hey what's your powershell what are you dealing with and realizing that maybe the maybe the package that we have isn't so bad right and i know everybody ha everybody has their own journey we all do and we don't know where we're going to end up when you know they have people in it with you yeah people are in there with a struggle people are going to take your hand and say you know what let we're in this together we're just going to go do this together absolutely it really changes everything that's that's that's huge and i just want to ask you for people who are watching at home let's say there's you know parents who they're not they didn't come and they're dealing with this this same struggle and um they're just nervous they're scared it's it's a parsha and you know like we said people who walked in through this door they made that the decision that they're gonna you know become vulnerable and i think everyone walking out here is extremely happy they did it but nonetheless to take that step it's difficult what do you tell those those parents about taking that step i would tell them that everybody who's everybody who comes here has had that same struggle but just like anything you have to take that step forward and sometimes your friend has to drag you and they gotta whoever it is find a friend you want to do something great you want to change somebody's life do it i think the biggest challenge that gaddafi is going to have with keshianovshi is that this crowd is not getting smaller no right so they went from 50 people to 100 to 200 to 500 a thousand people the next one is going to be 2 000 people yeah because every person here is going to come back and every person is going to get somebody else to come here at least it's going to be at least 2 000 people and i don't know what they're going to do you know we have to find places that can do it because everybody needs this the key is that people get after coming to such a weekend is immeasurable it's just tremendous and that cars have type we have for somebody like adalia and everybody else who works there they didn't have to do it they could have said hey you know what i have my struggle right i'm going to deal with it then i'll speak to a couple people when people say you know what i have a struggle i'm dealing with it and what can i do to help everybody with their struggle and that's what it is it's when we help somebody else we help ourselves that's really what happened that's what everybody ends up doing perhaps the first 10 15 20 minutes when somebody gets there they say hey you know what what can it do for me and then when you start helping others and you speak to others it gives you so much more strength to be able to battle through our own battles you said you said it perfectly um and again if those parents are watching just reach out to dolly miller head to you know kesha now she's website learn a little bit about the organization there is help out there thank you so much thank you for joining us great night thank you okay as we wait for our next guest to join us who i believe is going to be rabbi torski and five four three two thank you so much for joining us how are you pleasure is mine the pleasure is yours okay it's very nice so how was how was shabbos for you how did you enjoy shabbos what do you think the takeaway walking out of a keshir nashi shabbos it was for you tomorrow what are the feelings like number one it's not my first so i've done this before and there's two features of it are just standouts um the future number one is the um the sheer volume of pain that's going on together with the pain that's like that's happening and you feel it in the air you also feel a togetherness that people relate to each other and people connect i was wondering why they never made an announcement that says okay please anybody who's who's uh who's who's here make sure that you sit down by the by the shabbos next to somebody that you don't know and become familiar with them i realized that they never had to make an announcement like that because people on their own do it yes there are people who know each other from before they know each other from this kind of connection that kind you know the dark league from community is uh you know everybody knows everybody yes some way but um the reality is that this goes on and everybody's everybody's talking to everybody else and you know people who i know are newcomers they walk in to say but it's going to be difficult for me to open up and share with somebody else and i say okay you'll find out otherwise and they do they come over to me later it's like yeah you know i i i just felt it i i felt safe enough to be able to open up and share my pain with somebody else and it's a theme that is spoken about many of the presentations about how we have to be in the place where it's more than empathy it's being in somebody else's shoes and whether or not the exact details of a problem are identical to somebody else it's not relevant because if somebody's suffering and you're suffering too you can you can suffer together and when you're the the together part of it lifts it there's a there's a very simple muscle where there's this big rock that weighs 500 pounds no way in the world you're going to lift it so crane is going to pick this thing up and it'll slowly slowly lower it down onto your shoulder it ain't going to work very well but if 10 people line up over there and everybody's standing around and it lowers the boulder onto 10 people's shoulders you can hold it up any of us can can manage with 50 pounds and when we're doing that what happens is the boulder still weighs 500 pounds but we're all participating to hold it up that's kind of that kind of actors is precious it's i mean it's sad that people have to go through troubles to be able to encounter that it'd be lovely if they could they could experience this kind of arctis and other in other circumstances and other situations but it's happening here and it's in the air that really it's you said it so perfectly that's really beautiful i i i do want to ask you while we have you here for for those who have i think many people do if you let's say they have a friend who has a child who's struggling who's you know struggling with yiddish kite what are the things that they could or should say to them and what are the things that they should not say or could not say to them first of all i'm a very big advocate of support systems yeah and support systems are they they take people out of the out of the jail of loneliness so just because we can walk around everywhere but loneliness is a horrible feeling to have if picture yourself let's just get out of our subject matter for a moment sure you get invited to a wedding and you show up at the hasanah hall and you realize that the casino was last night and you're walking in to a simca hall and there's like 500 couples running around there right and they're presumably nice people but you don't know anybody there the two families making the making that are no connection to you whatsoever not location not they're not not your your social group nobody's related you're there with there's a thousand people in the building but you feel disconnected because you don't know anybody that's that's that's the mental state of loneliness right you're not alone the word alone and lonely are two very very different words um so that what what we're what we're experiencing here is breaking out of that loneliness and we need to help if somebody approaches us i want to get them out of that loneliness immediately because that's just going to help drag them down it makes them become defensive makes them sad when you have those kind of of processes going on for you you're not able to function well uh and and that means even to function in other areas of life you know it's suffering and if you if there's nobody that you can tell nobody you can talk to it just the pressure is really is really difficult for people right so that's how i guess it's so crucial for people who need kesha navishi to reach out and to to join this family because the the support is here and it may have not been around in the past but would you say that times have really changed times have changed where there's a lot more openness to this a lot more acceptance to this you know i've been involved with mask from its inception actually from before its inception and there was there was talk about you know pulling off a weekend retreat of some sort there's a variety of reasons why why it didn't materialize um but when the idea came up a very long time ago there would not have been the community support for that right why is that well there was a lot of resistance to doing much of this where it's where it's public um and we've we've now opened up and we're capable of talk i mean just from the parents that i'm that i'm meeting with while i'm here um and listening to some of their some of their situations they're extremely difficult and even today there are certain things that will not and cannot be spoken about in a very open forum they need to be spoken about in a much more limited way and it's it's suffering for them it's it's very very difficult you know we're light years better than the situation was 20 years ago um we still have a long way to go so what do you think needs to happen for us to be in a place where we look at the you know at claudia swirl and we say you know what the situation as it pertains to kids at risk or struggling kids or the other sky we really have a handle on that we really have a grasp of the situation what needs to happen first of all i wish i could have the optimism that we're going to be at a place where we've got a handle on the situation and the reason that that's going to be difficult is that the situation is changing while over while we're it's very fluid is that because it's because of society or society the world is a different place i mean when somebody comes and talks about how uh one of their children is looking to get married to a same gender uh outside world is saying that's a wonderful thing to do right and and and in the from community you know we're we're obviously very very um oriented very differently from that and it's and it's a challenge to us and these are things that are not able to be spoken about uh very easily and they're not easy to work with because the same kids that are saying okay i came out of the closet they don't only want you to not reject them they want you to accept them with the lifestyle that they're that they're bringing in we can't do that i mean i'm not i'm not being i'm not pass getting shyless here and i want the pisces to weigh in on it but the the way that the outside world the secular world is dealing is dealing with this it's normalizing it and we are still not ready to normalize it nor should we be and that's a dilemma right we live in a world though that you know in society at large is going towards a place where there are no more rules and there are no more boundaries and as from union we have rules and we have boundaries we have a torah that we're supposed to live by and abide by so if a family is not completely closed off to the outside world and they have internet access and their kids you know are just regular kids growing up today how do you how do you keep that that like that home pure how do you keep the home safe where the influences today aren't you know we see what's out there we see even you know like the the okay celebrities not the crazy crazy crazy ones the lifestyle is completely different and and what's happening is not okay by our our terms of what life should be what's yeah very difficult we've always had the nassaian of trying to keep these outside influences from getting into our community it's been a struggle it's been a struggle from the time when not just the parishioners that were the whole idea was they have to be protected from the influences that time had as their environment this was this was a challenge that they dealt with from from when they uh when as soon as they came down the isis said you're living in gaijin you're not living here because having them to live here would have been uh you know maybe can tell him you're gonna mingle with the guy you going to learn from their behavior so that's something that we had to they had to be protected from from the very beginning there's a reality today gullis does not give us the luxury of only living in a contained insular environment and we are our lifestyles do involve us having having much to do with the outside world so we're going to be affected by the outside world and we have to constantly cope with that nobody says it's easy and it's not it's not going to get easier um there's there's so much inroad going on and look it's the outside world's values today are more like saddam than anything we've ever seen in our entire history because they're attacking our core our core values you know when they begin attacking her stun began as a society that had extremely tight control over the population and they did what they want to do and the you know the powers that be said okay we want the rules to enable us to or to permit us to you know fulfill whatever we want their their rules that we look at today we look at how bizarre they are these were believed to be such you know such great controls they thought that they're going to really have it and and it reached a level of corruption that said i'm sorry this society cannot exist anymore and they were destroyed in a way that it was lights out it was just turned over instantly they could not continue existed that way we're heading there already there where we have a you know the governmental powers both both in america as well as other countries are basically trashing the original values in which on which all these societies were performed and they're not just changing it to telling us that it's better this way it's a it's a huge huge challenge and you know we would you know to to to to to take the choice of moving out and living and living in our own communities it's not it's not realistic right i wish it was but it isn't so what's the answer hold on tight i'll tell you what i think the answer is sure i don't think that the answer has much to do with creating restrictions and uh banning things and anything i i don't think those things work um you know i i i i have to believe if there's uh if we have 400 couples here the shoppers we've got over 350 actually if we have let's say 800 people here right probably have 700 smartphones go banned smartphones it's just not realistic it's not going to happen um it's not about how how we ban them my my my take on things is if we make our lifestyle and mitzvos enjoyable and fulfilling enough i don't mean enjoyable in terms of knee slapping laughter it's not about giggling it's not about you know experiencing pleasure it's experiencing secret and fulfillment and if we can do a better job of that our kids are going to stay as part of this why do i want to go off and do that when i don't need to i can i can i can i can accomplish worlds and feel fulfilled by doing it by doing exactly what i what what what what my heritage tells me to do so it's a it's it's a place where i mean i i look at our our systems of there's a lot of good in it but it's so rigid in terms of discipline as if discipline is the answer and discipline is not the answer discipline is a is a is plan c right plan a and plan b are about how do you how do you make somebody have a passion and a fresher for toyota and mitsus and that's what we have to learn how to do there are some homes that do that there are some yoshida's that do that that needs to become standard practice where people are people approach tyler mitzvah says this is my life this is a life i want to be part of when they don't feel like they want to be part of it they're going to look in if for somebody who cannot find sipbook the the nature is to look for second best you look for pleasure they don't look for another means of sipping because they have no clue where to look so they look for various means of escape and various means of pleasure all the addictions fit in there various lifestyles fit in there and and and there and they're given this this um artificial value as if it means something and it doesn't because at the end of the day nobody's terribly happy about it look you could have had a wonderful meal today right the food was great now what do you have from the food now nothing but you did sit with somebody at the table and you had a meaningful interaction with them and you either got to know somebody that's becoming a a a a colleague a friend whatever those relationships last the good the the good food does not last right and if if we're honest about it we have to realize that pleasure is not the substitute for fulfillment i know it does not replace sibu and we need to help our children achieve simple they have to have means of a a a pathway where they find it and then they can be passionate about it but somebody who doesn't have that is never going to find it thank you so much erythroski for joining us it's wonderful to be here thank you we will take a quick break and we will be right back with another guest or actually not we're just going to go right into it and have our guests join us right now we are joined by a good friend of mine mr bannon yeah how you doing doing pretty good doing pretty good so tell us tell us why you're here the shabbos tell us uh what your relationship with keshianovsch um i would say i like to call it alumni you know okay this program has given me a lot um it helped my parents form their parenting and i've been speaking at their events for the last few years but i really just like giving back a little bit because i feel like their style really helped me and helped me through my journey and now i want to just give back a little bit right and and so you've been speaking at question of show the last few years and you spoke beautifully yesterday last night can you tell the people at home a little bit of of what you what you talk what your message is and what you're trying to give over yeah i would say the main point of my message is there's very rarely i don't want to say never because you never say never but there's very rarely an atheist in the box hole like these kids despite what they say so many times you can ask a kid what's wrong and they can't direct what's really wrong and the same could apply to what they look like versus how they really feel spiritually so when the kid is telling you hey i don't believe i don't want to wear a kippah i don't want to keep shabbos that doesn't necessarily mean that spirituality and yiddish guide is out of their lives it just means that they're hurting and there's something blocking them from being the people that they want to be and i think it's very important to know that and not try and push that just try and be there for them be a proper parent and love them unconditionally and in your experience you feel that what behavior helps the kid and obviously it's case by case everyone's different and everyone you know everyone works differently but in your experience someone who you know a child who is struggling with theater skype finding his footing someone is in pain what works what works well and like what are the like the do's and the don'ts and i think it's even more important to really clarify what don't you say um well i would think they're like i said that i was actually asked that yesterday by the q a um there's a long list of things that you probably shouldn't say to your kid but i would think that a good message to give to parents is something where they feel like they're saying the right thing um and really they're not for instance when when you want your kid to start being more jewish as you'd say and go to chakras and you know put on philadelphia when they finally break out of their shell and they start coming back and doing the things they do you know compliment them on the other things not oh wow you went to chakras i'm so proud of you because it puts it in the kids out head hey they're proud of me not because of everything i've done and accomplished and worked on but they're proud of me because now i'm back like them i'm back to you this guy and all of a sudden boom now we're so proud and so happy no be there for them try and meet them at their level be proud of them for who they are and create an environment in a home where they want to be a part of you this guy and not forced into it and i guess i guess that sort of answers like what what to do other like in your experience things that oh no don't do that don't say that like that's not that's not the thing to say right now you know kid comes home late or the kids you know making make his parents pull their hair out what could a parent do in that situation i mean i think it's very important to understand that your kid's not in the back room with the drawing board on how to mess up your life you know he's not going step by step oh wow i'm gonna mess up dad's day today doing this you know he's acting out because he's in pain so if you understand that and you see hey like this skirt got a little shorter you know it went to jeans you know say hey nice pair of jeans he looks good compliment them on that you know find a way where they can really feel good that you love them for them as opposed to you know loving them for the yiddish kite that they're coming back to or not you know it's so many times you see that the parents really say can say unfortunately damaging things like what are you doing with your life um you know you're not doing anything get up you're being a bum like guys guys he knows that if he's sat in bed for the last 72 hours that he's not doing anything i promise you he's the one who knows that but telling him hey you're a bum i i don't think that's the best route how much damage does that actually do i i want to ask on a level where from from the classroom perspective also not just at home i think parents obviously have a very uh they play a big role in their kids life but hearing um something that is awful straight up you're a bum you're never going to be anything or something along those lines via the classroom or at the home how long could that have an effect on somebody years and years you know i actually recently have been working with someone and he constantly is telling me how his kid isn't doing anything his kid's not learning he's not working he's not this he's not that and like literally i'm talking to the guy and he sounds like he doesn't like his child and you think like the pa the child isn't gonna pick up on that or the child's gonna you know not notice and you say hey you're doing a great job but you really feel like he's a bum then he knows deep down he's it's not the words that you say it's the actions and how you really feel and he's gonna portray that and i see the kid literally whenever he's around his dad and i've seen him around his dad he's a totally different person like i said to the kid i was like hey you did a great job like he worked with me i brought him in i wanted to give him a little bit of a job he worked with me and he did fantastic i just gave him a few compliments said you did a really good job the kid was lighting up he was amazing i'm not saying i fixed the kid's life but i'm saying this kid's father didn't even realize like he's constantly trying to push him to do a job to do this to do that just be his dad just love him and he's gonna grow up kids grow up teenage years are hard years but pushing them and damaging i'm saying it could last for years the kid's really not doing well because it's hard and the final words for parents who um are at home who haven't gotten to this place yet where they've accepted i guess the challenge they're going through and you know with the mindset we want to we want to take the steps towards you know helping ourselves what what would you say to them to motivate them to take that step um listen everybody everybody has challenges in parenting you guys are set with hakasha who gave you the challenge of this challenging kid why go through it blindly while i go through it you haven't experienced this before you don't know this is not normal parenting you don't know the right thing to do it's not just like okay he does this you do that why not seek the help of the parents who have been doing it for a few years who have been getting the help the professionals the great amazing speakers you know there are people like nakhi over here come on guys like this is the place to be let's make this a special moment come be with everybody and learn from everybody else's experience from their failures from their wins and see that there is a positive outcome that coming to this program really does help and i've seen so many parents with just huge smiles on their face with tears of joy because they're finally getting the answers and the tools they need to deal with this challenging situation thank you so much thank you so much for joining us this is your dad okay we're now being joined by our previous guest father thank you so much for joining us for having me first of all i know right your son is incredible um off the bat i really just want to ask you know as a parent having patience while a child is suffering or in pain or acting out what's that like you know what are what are some things you could tell yourself or that you have told yourself in the past to just stay calm stay patient and ride it through well i have a saying it's better to be effective than to be right so you could be right and ineffective and stand on principle when it doesn't work so that that's like the message that plays in the back of my head do i want to fix things or do i want to be known as i'm right right and what would you say is your takeaway from a shabbos like this over the last uh 72 hours a lot has gone down here a lot of really impactful sessions incredible people parents who are here to improve and just understand their children better what's the takeaway for you well one is we're not alone every parent when when they're hit by a huge development in the house catastrophe is a lot of times they collapse inside thinking that this is my fault what did i do what do we do what did my husband do what did my wife do and that's really very uh counterproductive and destructive but when you see that there's so many other people from asides lit fish you know and all different backgrounds and different levels of socioeconomic stature and religious observance different levels different ways of doing it and everybody's suffering pretty much the same way so it's nothing specific to you or your your community it's just a phenomenon that's occurring all over and we're just you know one of many and therefore we have a support group and the connection with the child is can be used or bartered with it's something that's a precious resource to use to save the children all right yeah and what do you think uh kesha nav she brings to the table um keshinashi as the name applies is the the tight connection to the child soul and that's you know if you think it's bad now god forbid a child without that connection to their parents is only going to be exponentially worse it's not that our connection is going to make make them worse or enable them to be to be to do more bad things uh when we understand that the root of this is in pain and any confusion and in laws a relationship with parents is settling and takes away from the confusion at least they have a few solid things in their life that they can depend on or lean on which is the difference between an overdose and not a suicide and not or healthy choices and if the child makes like one or two healthy choices because of that relationship that could be life-altering and that's that's priceless and your advice for parents who are at home that haven't taken this step yet to you know join the khashonoshi family and and come to the next chapter uh besides yeah like what what advice like let's say they're scared to take that step but what can they do like practically speaking to push themselves they should reach out to somebody they trust don't don't be don't be ashamed this is not you're not the only one this is nothing to be ashamed about and the more people you speak to the more likely you are to come across a spark of hope and then get connected to the right uh group or right advice and don't you know silence is deadly in this uh this type of situation okay thank you so much uh for joining us and sharing that with us okay um as we move on we are i think i've never spoken to this many people in this short period of time shabbos is long and it was beautiful it was really nice there are hundreds hundreds of people here and we are continuously being joined by incredible professionals right over here in the seat and we're now being joined by an incredible guest oh wow look at that go ahead introduce yourself let everyone know who you are what you do especially since i'm incredible best i'm sure not he knows who i am boris amari murray stottemeyer all the way from new york yes um i'm roover menlowitz i am a therapist out of muncie lcsw and i have a privilege to be a part of questionnacy already it's probably a couple years right now so um glad to be here and be a part of it all it's beautiful uh what do you think you're you know you're walking away from this shabbos if you sum it up into one lesson or one feeling that you're gonna get into your car tomorrow you're gonna start the car and you're probably you know feeling tired because nobody here slept what's that feeling like wow that this is what i'm feeling so i'm gonna surprise you with this one because actually i came in here thursday night and then i left about an hour before shabbos so when i came back right after chavez so i'll tell you what my feeling is it's like a feeling like you missed out everyone's on this super high and like really really connected and like you're trying to like feel then like where was my shabbos and compared to this job is you're trying to get into the mode and it's so like you know energized and you know to try to catch up with that that's that's you know but i have been here for shabbos in the past so i i know what people are experiencing and like there were certain people i even sat down to meetings with and i said like um okay i'll see you now and then let's meet again mother shabbos we'll see how the magic works you know absolutely we'll do it again so what do you think um parents at home who have not yet taken a step to be part of the keshanashi family they are going through pain though and it's a struggle and it may not be easy to you know take this step become very vulnerable what can they do or what would you tell them if they're sitting right in front of you right so i mean there actually are a bunch of parents that are here that have been clients of mine i encourage them sometimes i even sponsor them to be here because i really believe it can be an effective intervention and when they get to hear and see and feel that you're you express that nausea nash extreme actually yourself they kind of wonder like where do you get that from you know how can you see things in that lens and you can turn them to this direction and people can get uh quite a lot from it rabbi ruvain druvain thank you so much for joining us already i really appreciate it take care thank you we're going to take a couple minute break and we will be right back here at the kesher nafshi stage we are back and we are here with a big guest the founder of keshinovsky the founder of everything that we have here this beautiful shop this is not possible without the work of godale miller can you tell us a little bit your inspiration to start such an incredible organization so basically in 2015 i got involved with parents at kids at risk due to my own situation and we were doing what we called the the pull of helping our children and building relationships our children going on trips being there for them loving them unconditionally and building that relationship to be able to have a calm and normal collective home doing that i'm not in that situation but many parents that deal with drugs and risky behaviors or dealing with kids getting arrested and stuff like that takes a very big toll on the parents i couldn't watch parents continuously giving and giving and giving without getting a chance for themselves it's almost like for instance classification when somebody has a child with cancer right those parents get a lot of support from kai lifeline from others outside and they get people take the kids out people help them give bring gifts to the kids but for us nothing ever happens for us as parents i said we have to do something with the parents so we did a small get together for the men the ladies had a small women's retreat that we did for about 50 women had a private house and a three-day retreat in morristown which worked out unbelievable they took care of everything then we did our first lava malker at the end of the year we ended up having 250 parents we ended up having 250 parents yes sorry we had 250 parents um that actually came to love malcolm had a fundraiser just to get very lucky and fortunate to have pomegranate i'll put in a small block of pomegranate that donated all the foods my daughter suri sarah gibbs as a party planner she did the whole thing from the beginning to the end and avrami klein at that time donated all the other expenses whatever incurred and rawa jacobson came and graced us with an hour and a half of pure physical physical pumped into us that's where the brainchild of having a shabbaton for these parents you saw how much it gave to them just one night an hour cocktail hour and then a couple of hours of physic at night they walked away pumped excited inspired to continue doing the psychiatrist of helping our children what do you say is the most rewarding part for you at least of being the head of such an organization accomplishing so much seeing you know the tears of joy from parents as they walk out of here with just more tools more equipped to deal with their children so basically for me i would say that i might be addicted to doing this i don't know we did our fourth event now in 13 months we did one worldwide we hope to do on another one let's just rule hopefully um the phone calls that are coming in every single day the parents that need physic that need help we're not set up for that so i don't want people to think that we are set up to have an office like that we're not set up yet um but basically it's every single time we do an event like this we think yeah people came six months ago and they're not gonna come back or we're not going to get new people to come and every single week we get more and more parents that want to come to our events they walk away with physic you know our biggest inspiration now is i think we are the the the unsung heroes of charlie's world appearance that if you have parents from lakewood from borough park from williamsburg from monroe from muncie from every type of satmar and bells and bubbles and gay and sphinx and khabad and modern orthodox and woodmere every person in claudius rule fathership people we made three different four different you know basically eight o'clock minion it was such an eclectic group so cohesive people came back excited inspired they want to come back again and again and again lost all the materials quality material we had guidry sneers whoever wanted to have separate seating that's advertising with the family seating for the ones that needed it and wanted it and they need it for different reasons we had special women's programs it's the only place where actually you come and sit with therapists for free as long as it takes therapy or sitting up till four o'clock in the morning for parents for free it's really i would call this a transformational weekend it's a four-day weekend not like you come in there friday afternoon and run out sunday morning or water showers four full days and it was an unbelievable unbelievable that's what drives me to continue doing it well claudia soto really needs you to keep doing it richard shem we all dobbin for the day where kesha now she wouldn't have to exist and richardson all our children should be on beyond the path be on the right path uh you know but thank you thank you it's not it's not it's not gonna happen without you keep doing what you're doing because this is this is changing the world as my first shabbos ever being part of kashanashi and i've never never in my life have experienced what i experienced today over shabbos just seeing a whole room of people who want to grow who know that you know there are faults and and their struggles and they accept that and they talk about it what you've built is it's a kiddish i really have to give a shout out to all my people that are really helping jinji he's not talking about me when he says jinji no no uh heinekerman schleimer litzman ashley rosenberg and we have a whole women's team that helped us out mrs throw and mrs listman and darcy benon and now we have rosie kaufman and we're continuously adding more and more people that are helping us uh mindy markowitz and fragi rosenberg and many many people that really i don't want to say i forget names ellie kaufman every day mrs walter they did all the bags personally for them and really we pay attention to everybody i really have to thank all these people for driving me to do it to do it to do it i also have to do a shout out to israel freed from lakewood that really helped us cover many many parents in lakewood to be able to come um lakewood really i have to give a thank you to laker for accepting us warmly and giving us that opportunity to actually actually be able to make it for over 60 new families from lakewood that came and thank you thank you to hashem that were able to do this to shabbos in such a crisis time a critical time thank you thank you so much miller and we are now going to be joined by rabbi daniel kalish who uh what can i say he was incredible over shabbos and we had we had an amazing panel today amazing session today with our kalish and i would say that our session today was was supposed to be questions and answers but it was really a question and answer like like many of them end up being but you really you did an incredible job um what is your takeaway from a shabbos like this at kashanovshi wow that's first of all thank you naki you did a great job over shabbos and it was an honor for me to be around nachi deshabes amongst all the different experiences somebody who's being there for the tabor and just putting out good content and making everybody more bringing inspiration to everybody so thank you for all the work that's very kind thank you um i want to say about shabbos that parents are powerful and i think all of us as parents underrate our power there are challenges in islam and saiyan parents in some secular ways of viewing things in a canceled culture are saying toxic relationship cancel mom cancel that and we're come from a different world parents are the answer not the problem i think we have to hazard that parents are the answer not the problem i think coming off such a shabbos of really special special people all over the place i sat at the same table with naki and we got to what a gift what a surprise what a gift friday night not sure who we're going to sit next to and who do i sit next to rabbi daniel kalish and his family that was awesome really honored for me my family but we really we got to witness together parents leaning in i want to say a story that i that that i experienced i don't know much from politics i'm just not my speed you want to talk sports i'm in politics republican democrat i i haven't figured it out i don't really care that much to be honest and and the governor of connecticut somebody asked me to meet with him two governor goes name was daniel malloy maybe with fellow daniels i don't know why somebody wanted me to meet with him and he was not a politician type guy and i he he happens to be a fascinating guy he's dyslexic and daniel malloy cannot read or write and he was the governor of the richest state in america and i asked him off the record and he's not a political guy and is no longer in politics and i asked daniel malloy that here there must have been a lot of naysayers you can't read and write i'm sure you had many teachers and many people in your life i don't say rabbeim he's not a yidd and rebellion wouldn't talk this way but you have many people i'm sure who are naysayers and i asked the governor did that motivate you i'm very competitive i believe machia you're a competitive guy absolutely absolutely good monk us competitive guys if we had naysayers saying you can't and you won't that would motivate me to try harder and i asked him were you motivated by all the naysayers and is you got you the governor of the richest state in connecticut the richest in america did that motivate you and he said no i was like surprised like i thought that was of course he would see i was motivated he said no i wasn't motivated by that so i asked him how do you figure and he said something very serious he said my mother always believed in me none of the naysayers made a difference because my mother believed in me and just in the most real ways a parent is powerful the love of dad the love of mom is really really powerful to me the takeaway from shabba is seeing parents caring real care or all shabbos the conversation are parents who have overwhelming love of their children but more than love they're zoned in and tuned into the nuances of their kids journey and seeing the power of caring and loving parents hearing the story of caring and loving parents to me it's something that all of us should walk away and know we're powerful as parents we could do tremendous amounts lean into our kids journey understand lean in be a support be be somebody who's a good guide and advisor and all of us should see tremendous knackers from our children i'm maynardo michaelis thank you so much enjoy the malava malka thank you nathan all right thanks and our last guest that we're going to have on for this evening and then we're all going to have a good party we're all going to stop talking yes okay rabbi yasi ben shushan i feel like both of you i feel like both of you should be sitting here i i would love i would love to do a thing of a kalish just just so that i get him for that amount of time yeah no one else is going to want to jump in the camera we're going to keep you for a very short time because because you have a really where yeah where'd you get your suitcases because i i drive to all these things uh-oh yeah where's matt it's the best i think it's the best right over there are we live at the gazebo uh there's some security we're having a security issue everybody wants naki's autograph that's the problem everybody wants to knock his autograph uh that was young his stuff today was amazing i feel wrong for doing this ari your brother ahri should be here two cents i thought you just called me ari i was like okay i should be here we already know that's why you got my suit it's stretchy it is so i i have to drive to these things like i don't like flying cleveland drive yeah from cleveland so last night and then i got stopped in the middle of whatever last night i was like and eight hours or two nights ago was it like an eight-hour drive i have to sleep in the car sometimes so i need a stretchy suit so that can we please sponsor a delta miles card for remember that's let's get to it so we go just jump and enjoy your take away from this shabbos the feeling that you're going to get into your car tomorrow you'll probably be tearing up and very emotional and you're right home to cleveland yeah what's the feeling from honestly i'm gonna be honest with you here this time i'm not gonna lie i'm gonna ask you first of all a major you know a major shout out to you uh to your wife thank you who came uh rosie i didn't want to say her name i don't know if you say her name or not so rosie was adorable i'm sleeping right now and i just jinxed it again what are you doing how did you not learn to rosie who's now my best friend rosie and i are best friends um but also tyranny time who showed up to that and that's and that's really i'm mentioning it for a reason i come to a shoppers like this for myself but i meant i come here for for myself this is this is my shabbos away a little bit because even though i'm here and i'm talking to everyone and i'm speaking and i'm doing all the the normal things that i do on a regular shabbos but edition office is different and so many people a lot of times not so many people so a lot of times people call me and they're like can you uh cue come do this job it's like you know um we're asking you to fly out like you know six hour flight and be here from thursday the sunday and we'd rather you not bring your family we're not paying but you're gonna love the people that are there i'm like yeah i think i'm gonna make it they're like no no it's gonna be very good food i'm like yeah i think i'm gonna be okay it's fine you know but to takesha now she's a different situation right you come here and literally everyone over here is a walking book they they all have this unbelievable story and history and an idea and it's so beautiful the biggest part about it though is the vulnerability the fact that what they're here for is to share that is to share that stories to share those ideas is to share those experiences and those pains and laughing and crying and you know me i give a speech i can't uh i can't not make a joke i can't not make a thing and i i was giving one i felt bad but i had to make it i couldn't and a lady came over to me afterwards and she's like i want to know how much i appreciate those jokes because it got heavy and it was so heavy but but you know we want to laugh also and it so made the whole thing human to me the whole concept was so human to me then because they were like we want to laugh too it's not we're not after trying to have a problem here we want to laugh also the big takeaway though the big takeaway was probably anything that came out of rubber kalish's mouth i'm saying best buds now by the way i'm everything that comes out of his mouth sure it's not and by the way it's not what he says which is old tyrone gorgeous it's how he says it yeah that that his slavos that life that he loves giving over with it i i i rubber kayla's handshake and smile could like turn a cat into a lion it's it's so true it's so true and he gets right up into you and he's like and you're like ah you feel alive so michaelis was incredible but really the parents the people that were here the people that were here are my big takeaway always and honestly i had to miss a kesha navi in the middle but i've been i've been running on the fumes at the last one and i know i'm good for i'm good for another few months right now from what i gained from this week really i get to go in i want to go home i want to hug my kids i want to hug my tail meet them i want to i'm so super charged to get back into things beautiful grateful bestie thank you so much that's incredible spending shadows with you oh wait and everyone who's watching right now keep watching because we are going to be picking this up by the malava malka live this is nakhi gordon signing out this is rabbi yasi ben shushan and we will see you on the next episode of two cents podcast