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"It happened to me!"
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"It happened to me!" Hear it first hand by Rabbi Benzion Kletzko.
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we're all here as friends
we're all here on a journey with a sense
of acharas
a sense of beauty and with the
awesomeness of the trust
that the abster has given us
beautiful sweet pure nasty
that are having fairness join us
i'd like to give a big to avi
fischoff
and to the entire team of kashanashi
[Applause]
and i'm honored to be
um the first speaker plus i have a
wedding to run to
so uh together it works out very well
it is
a sense of optimism
that kashanavshi has given each of the
parents in the room
to let everyone know that you're just in
the middle of the book
and the book is going to have an amazing
ending
i'll tell you why i know this
i often tell them i tell me them whoever
else will listen
that when you put in good ingredients
good ingredients come out
sometimes they get a little evolved they
get a little mixed up and
it takes a while for the oil and the
water and the this to settle till it
gets
until it's all mixed it takes a little
while longer
but if you know as a parent that you put
in good ingredients
good ingredients will come out sometimes
like
very delicious wine it takes a little
longer
but i want to tell you from experience
sometimes those are the ones that taste
the sweetest in the end
because of their journey i used to be a
rabbi at ucla
in the college i did outreach over there
and i had a program once a week
where i'd get balabatham to come and
speak to my bale chuva
and the best bala bottom the ones that i
wanted
were the ones who went through journeys
as teenagers
many of them would talk and went off the
thera had issues with
drugs had these kind of issues and when
they came back
what they were able to give
my college students was better than
anyone else
it was more sincere it was more pure and
it was more hard
fought they fought for everything
they battled and they overcame and they
gave it to the students
i'm going to tell you a little bit of my
story
my wife and i and i'm going to tie it
into a plastic that we say
all the time and we're going to see
exactly what mahalo we should use
to not only not get depressed but to
understand where we are on the roller
coaster
where are we
our great dream is
mashiach should come that's our dream
we just passed this above we know of
it'll be clear to everyone so we turn to
hashem we say
hashem you're the one who builds your
shalom
new and so we passed tish above
our family put out a video i don't know
if any of you saw the video
you saw some of the video you saw the
video with the
miktash the burning and with the
something you liked right hashem i'm
glad i got around
thank you thank you it was made with
love
hashem you're the buena yerushalayim but
not only are you the buena yerushalayim
you're the nidhi israel
those who are far flung from yiddishkait
those who are the nitkay israel that
could be
the non-from kid in gainesville florida
or in wichita kansas or it could be our
own
yingala medalla who lives down the hall
in the bedroom
but doesn't come down for the shabbos
meal
they're all nitri israel so hashem we
turn to hashem
and we say hashem new buena yirushalam
i have another character trait and you
have to not forget this character trait
isam
hashem you're the one who heals the
brokenhearted
and gathers in their sorrow
bark hashem we have 11 children
a lot of nakas we have 12 grandchildren
even more on the way levi many more
my students sometimes you know my
college students are not from
they say rabbi when are you going to
stop having kids
over a population when you get a stop
overpopulation in the world
i say we'll stop at six million
otherwise the world owes us i'm not
worried we'll populate plenty
six million will stop really we won't
if my wife mask him
hashem is the right felish for a lave
we have 11 children in bark hashem
we have so much nachas many of our
children
are shashidan
our our second son is a
bucky toyota not a guzman
rama mila bamila and our next children
made sassy um at their khasanas
our oldest son our bahar
went through something in yeshiva i
don't want to get graphic
but something
that was hard something that was
a a breach
in snooze by
somebody older than him
and
that began a journey that was
very
very difficult it was
all of a sudden a good yeshiva
alephs like the rest of his brothers
the kia's bien awards
and in one month everything changed
we couldn't explain what happened
this was not planned i'm sorry i'm sorry
this is not okay
um
not okay that's not what i'm here for
um and
he ended up leaving the yeshiva
right at the end of this month
and we didn't know what was going on
just things things that he had never
been interested in
a certain anger
and he ended up in two other yeshivas
not terribly mature
we thought you know teenagers
we didn't know all the details
we know that when he complained he
wasn't believed
it wasn't believed it was downplayed
it was downplayed and
he ended up going to a few different
yeshivas
and finally we thought we'll send him to
eric's trial he's still very good in
learning
he was like his brothers like he you
know this is this is a bucker
to understand there's a bugger when he
was 16
17 years old on one shivers
he finished massachusetts twice the
entire
message was twice over one shivous
this this is a good booker and
he ended up we ended up sending him
terrorist israel
and he was you know he got
into he got into pot
at that time there were guys smoking he
was smoking
part of that culture
the house that he lived in with the bakr
was not a
pleasant house it was a filthy house
and we you know being naive it's our
oldest
we didn't have experience so we
you know it'll be okay i'll get over it
he'll get married he'll find his way
it'll be okay i had a
young lady who we were making
very elegant lady from europe we we sent
her to seminary
she came she was stark she was honored
that we would consider her for our son
she knew oh glasgow let's do it that's
we were happy that
we were happy that they he shall find
this
and they had a marriage that
lasted a few years first they didn't
have children
and then they went for treatments
and it was against people's better
judgment that they should have because
at that point
she had noticed certain things so she
recommended
somebody psychiatrist and the
psychiatrist began
prescribing things you know the way they
did until they're buckling down now
all sorts of pills maybe this may be
that
son didn't need it the whole thing was
just but why not it made him feel good
so that together with the pot
and slowly but surely we saw
we saw a book or just disappear
and so did his brothers and his sisters
and after a few years
didn't come home one night he was always
on the derek
not only that he sat and learned day and
night kabbalah
i don't know what he was learning i
don't know if he knows what he was
learning
kabbalah day and night sitting in this
taking
smoking kabbalah and then eventually
one night when he didn't come home she
said
his wife we were very close like we were
mcarver
she said she said tati i can't do it i
said you don't you shouldn't have to
i said you'll have your gut within 24
hours
and we gave her right away it wasn't her
fault
plus it wasn't her fault and he moved
back in
and it just got crazier it got crazier
we didn't know what to do this is this
is a this is a
a good boy with the good art and
he's in his room and he made lights in
the room and shiny things and
and then eventually he didn't want to be
bothered
bother him maybe she get a job now the
child's support he had to he now he has
a daughter
so he moved to the backyard he built the
tent
he built the tent and he lived in the
tent with swarms
for him in the tent at any time he'd
come and
he he was just sitting and learning but
it was babbling like
it was you know it was in his mind
that's what it was
word play that's very common the word
play and
it was incredibly incredibly painful
and we were lost
and you know being a family that does
kiruv
undoubtably would say well that's a
that's because you let people in the
house that's because this that's because
that
i want to tell you we were never ashamed
of our son
we were sad but we always always always
loved him
who had something done to him and
it threw him off a cliff
i spoke to somebody who was involved
with these and young
he said 90 percent of the kids go off
the dark something happened to them
ninety percent i don't know if that's
true but i know the numbers high
so this lasted for a few years
when i first spoke when i first spoke
for kashanovshi
i spoke about my son living in a tent in
the backyard
and it was it was madness and we tried
to
understand why it made sense
and then winter came and it snowed
so he brought more blankets to his tent
there were times where it was the
coldest coldest and
my wife and i used to wake up in the
middle of the night
to make sure he was alive that he didn't
freeze to death because
in his mind his mind was so full of this
medication that he didn't
have the cycle to go inside
got him jobs got fired got because they
saw they saw
it had it had made his brain crazy
eventually we decided you know no more
tense this is
madness and we came and we
we one day when you know we had sent him
to one of these jobs
that was temporary we came we ripped
down the tent
he came home he was so upset he was
he was he was beyond but it wasn't him
it wasn't him it was it was the
medication he says
he was a sweet he is a sweet sister boy
but the medication that made him crazy
and i realized it could happen to any
family i realized that you could bring
your kids up
was that with the best with the most
love with caring and doing homework and
benching with them
when they sit on your lap and making
contests with them
we made contests constantly this merced
and every seem that they made
we would make stakes make it levitic
that's why barakash from the other kids
they're they're so excited
and so is he eventually so he moved back
in
and we realized that he's beginning to
have a hashball
and at that point this is after i spoke
in kashanavshi
i called him in and i said you know i
had thought about it
you always wanted to move to eric's
israel
i think that's a good idea
and of course i wanted him to move i
didn't want him to be mashipia
but i said we're going to pay for you
we're going to give you set up money
you're going to go
we realized that the only way he's going
to find himself
is if he finds himself by himself
but we with love with caring we sent him
and i've
siblings who live in earth israel
and after a little while his medication
ran out
and of course these things are addictive
incredibly highly addictive
so he called up tatia to send the
medication i i said
i can't you know we don't and he got
starved out of the medication
you know start for four months he said
worse than gandam
but with love and be
a part we we set up in the makolet
that he should have a way of buying food
and we set up
all sorts of things only with love
for him to find himself and i want to
tell you why this is so important
you have to continue with the puzzle
you know how you gather in sorrow
do you know how you take a kid who
should be
somebody who's an emerging guddell a
good husband
somebody cares you know how to get them
back you have to understand that they
have to understand
that they are special
you know the next puzzle doesn't seem to
make any sense
the next puzzle right after
machiavelli's voice some gathers in
their sorrow the next posture
is my name is
what's the kesha between buena you
shalim and my name is bar
it seems like there's no kesha at all i
count stars
my friends how many stars exist in the
world in the universe the known universe
10 to the 23rd that means
one with 23 0
10 with another 23 zeros afterwards
23 zeros that's an astounding number of
stars
there's actually 10 million stars for
every one person in the world
10 million stars for every person that's
alive
so what do we care hashem you count
stars you give them
you you you give them names what does
that mean
and the answer is that a star is just
gas
it's just that nuclear fusion it's
hydrogen becoming helium
that's all it is it's just
nuclear fusion it's a ball of fire
who cares how many there are and for
sure
who cares how what their name is their
name what do we care about the name of a
star
and jana eckveld who cares the answer is
hashem is saying if i care so much
about a star which is nothing but a ball
of gas
imagine how much i care about your child
imagine how special and how precious and
unique this child who's lost
who's trying to find themselves or
doesn't even know that they're supposed
to be trying to find themselves
hashem says they're more special than 10
million stars
and i gave every one of those stars
names
and your child is more special than the
stars in the universe
what is the name a name is a tough kid
a name is attackless a name says you
have a purpose in this world you're
supposed to accomplish something great
you have a name hashem
says not only do starving stars have
names
but your husky and your miriam and your
barak
and your rising they all have names they
all are supposed to do something
great so at some point we're gonna say
you know what
you're struggling but can i be honest
with you i also struggle
my struggles are not your struggles but
i also have struggles
but i'm gonna love you regardless
i want to tell you that
after those four months he was weaned
off
he didn't like what i did to him that's
for sure but he was weaned off
and now he's still not married but he
has traverses
in in him that we would understand
kimarara he has an apartment
that he does
he's off of i would say most things i
can't say for sure
but every arab shabbos he calls
to speak to tell us how he did that week
every hour of shabbos he video calls
can i tell you what i do as
we're speaking i take my phone and i
screenshot his face
many times you know what a screenshot is
i just take pictures i can my phone
is full of screenshots of his face
because i love his face and i love
what's behind his face
it's your dear sweet goodness what
happened to him
but i'm more confident than ever
that all the ingredients that i put in
that my wife put in that our family put
in that is
obeying put into tequila put in that is
god there and put in
all those ingredients are coming to the
fore
and what will emerge
will be a prince of a man
so our story is not over
our story has just begun and
all of the difficulties and all of the
trials and
and all of the hurdles that he had to
overcome
he's going to one day use to give other
people hezuk
and i'm telling you my friends whoever
you are out there
that's going to be the story with you
your
kindle will emerge you know how i know
because you're here today a parent that
didn't care wouldn't be here
a parent that didn't love a parent that
didn't listen
to the message of kashanavshi they would
think they know better
or they would write off their child i
don't want to know i did my best
i got other kids to worry about but
that's not you
you understand that every child is an
oil and mullet
every child is the biggest acharias and
every child is worth it
to spend a sunday afternoon here
listening
perhaps maybe possibly you'll hear one
word of hezek and that one word of hezek
will lift you up
and let you come home and love your
child
just a little bit more because of the
end of the day
and the end of the day children
need the results from their parents to
grow up
we give them the resources we tell them
i give eurasia's
you're a grown-up and when a child goes
off on his own
they're still a child they're wandering
here and there even if they're 26 years
old
they're a child today you'll be a child
in 45.
you're giving them their issues by
saying i will never give up on you
and i will love you i know you have
fears
even if you remain the way you are the
rest of your life
this is not an agenda driven i
i i'm not telling you this because i'm
hoping of course i hope i'm
i have a i have a job and i have a
passion you this guy is my passion
but i will love you to the end of the
world because you're in the shama
and the every star
has a name and your child is a star
as much more beautiful and much more
precious i thank you all so much for
listening