jump in or not

As soon as I got there, that's when the panic attack, legit the anxiety [music] attack I should say started. I was like, "What the hell am I doing? I'm here. Nobody's here. There's no nothing here. There's no Jews. There's no There's no whatever." >> You find a lot of therapists are a little too gung-ho and a little too overeager. Jump in, you can do it, right? And then if it's a disaster, that's not therapy. That's more traumatizing than the event itself. [music] >> When somebody's coming in, okay, we're having a problem. What do you see as the common um reason for that? >> My personal perspective is we're looking for [music] the person to become their own therapist, right? I think that's the most empowering thing.