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Josh Brody - Finding Menuchas Hanefesh when Bitachon Is not Enough - Project Inspire Convention 2025
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hi um you know I will tell you that I
think that people who tend to take a
look and try to pay attention to Society
at large will tell you that there are
certain trends that you can see within
society that like infects how people
think right politically you see this all
the time right go back five years ago
black lives matter was like the thing
right now nobody could care less right
now it's more like Hamas right and you
see the same thing in education it's the
same way there are certain trends that
you see that change over time that's
sort of like people at large tend to
change how they think I I I I think this
is same that the same thing is true when
it comes to fir Society from society I
think I've kind of like tried to pull a
lens back a little bit well I don't have
great research on this to prove what I'm
about to say is true see if you if you
agree or disagree with me you know 15 20
25 years ago really Hot Topic in Judaism
was Lara right whatever you look people
were talking about lashar different sh
about it nowadays and this is probably
true I'd say for about the last 5 10
years Bon has become like the topic
everybody wants to talk about Amazon had
like 18 different books on bakon right
if I ask you name a bestseller on the
art scroll bestseller list art scroll
has its own bestseller list I doubt any
of you would realize that the Bas
English Bas halan bahon is Arts girl
bestseller everyone wants to talk about
bakun now I think the reason for that
actually is pretty
straightforward the world is nuts
everyone wants to figure out a way how
they can actually like find a way to
stay calm to stay centered to like find
that port in the storm that will help
them get through life and so if you're
from person the concept of Bon I mean
besides the fact that it's basically the
reason we're on this planet but it gives
you something to sort of hold on to to
try to find that measure of of calmness
in your life now truth is this is not
only true in the from Community I think
if you were to go outside into the
non-jewish world you'll actually notice
the same thing right one of the biggest
corporate buzzwords a little bit before
Dei became popular was mindfulness
everyone wants to talk about being
mindful why because if you're mindful
you're present it helps keep you calm
which is also the name of a very popular
app right everyone wants to say come so
so we're all looking for the same thing
so this is something that bahon gives
you because it can help you have a
certain level
of and whether you realize it
consciously or not the truth is that
pretty much everybody knows that living
a life
ofes is a better way to live right I
think all of us want to be or think we
are that really calm person who was very
calm you know under pressure when when
my oldest was
born um I to say it bluntly I was a
total wreck like I I I was just like
we're in the hospital and my wife's
doctor wasn't there so we had somebody
who else was on call and I'm kind of
like freaking out and I'm you know we
learned one of the things you know you
learn when you're a young married man is
you know when your wife's expecting you
you you go to learn how to do the
breathing exercises right did did this
right um I had no clue what was going on
my wife you know in labor I'm trying to
tell her to breathe she looks at me like
I'm crazy what are you doing and I'm
just I'm a total wreck okay when when my
daughter was born a couple years later
so I'm like trying okay I'm going to be
under control and my wife's doctor was
there and we're in the room trying
really hard to stay under control and he
looks around and he says hm we don't
have a nurse to help us and this set me
off like I'm totally like now I'm like
freaking out again and he was like no
it's okay it'll be fine
I've done this
before no issues and that just had this
incredibly calming effect on me and I
was like okay everything's going to be
fine we all want to be that person have
a level
ofes live our life calmly and feel like
okay I'm under control in my
life great how exactly am I supposed to
do that so you'll tell
me that's what B is for Amazon 18
different books on B learn and you will
find that sense of that you're looking
for in your
life
except well I mean I don't want to speak
for anybody else in the room but
speaking for
myself sometimes B just doesn't quite
get you where you need to be in terms of
that feeling of
calmness that feeling
of like sometimes B it's just not
enough and then you you start to go
through this guilt pattern right where
you feel like okay so I should have
moreon I don't I feel guilty I don't
feel good anymore now I feel worse I
should have more Bon I beat myself up
over it and you know goes on and on and
on and instead of actually being able to
feel more
calm you feel worse because now you feel
worked up and
guilty and what exactly are you supposed
to do if you can't feel a of is not
doing it for you now why your is not
doing it for you is a very very
individualized
question but one one reason could be you
know RBA famously writes that there is
nothing that a person fools himself
herself more about than where they're
holding in
bakon everybody thinks that they're
about Bon until you know until you're in
that moment the famous story I love
saying over it was actually I read it
for the first time in a children's book
it totally blew my mind mind Shan writes
over this story that in the old yeshu
one time he saw a kid that got hit in
the head by a some Arab through a rock
ad him hit him in the head and he grabs
his kid he starts running with him back
to the from neighborhood and some woman
like sees him running with this kid and
she starts calling out to them it'll be
okay hashm will take care of it
everything will be fine and then as gets
closer she sees it's her own grandson
and she loses it and starts freaking
out and doesn't necessarily help us if
we're not really holding by it and it's
it's a lifetime's worth of work why we
doing working at it and getting better
at it is not the kind of thing that's
going to happen overnight but if I want
to have am I am I basically saying that
if I don't feel or have that level of
that I'm going to never be able to feel
in my life I mean it's hard to imagine
to think that I'm not going to be able
to feel that sense of calmness simply
because my B is not good enough it it I
I almost go so far as to say that can't
be right it just can't be but it's not
only my my view Yak lugasi who's mashia
he has this wonderful wonderful saer
called
yesu and a lot of the things we're going
to talk about tonight come from his
safer and one of the things that he says
brings from the balat he brings from the
a person's ability to control their
thoughts is inherent it it's innate you
have an ability to control what you're
thinking and how you're feeling
so you have to be
able to calm yourself down right by the
way as as just a little tip don't ever
tell somebody else to calm down that
never ever
works but you have to be able to do it
for yourself somewhat so if you don't
have that level of but you want to
feel like what are you supposed to
do so
Perhaps Perhaps the problem is are
definition of what actually
is we might actually have that
wrong like I think you heard take take a
poll right Define
manases I would guess that most people
sitting in this room would say something
along the lines of I don't have any
digus nothing to worry about
everything's under
control things at work are fine things
at home are fine feel like I'm doing
okay
in my you know Hashem like no D
everything is is
fine but if that's your definition
ofes it almost means by
definition that if things are not fine
that you can't feel
manes like I I my job can be a little
bit crazy at times and as my my my
family will will tell you when shabas
starts as shabas is start starting to
end that's when the stress starts
because I know I've probably got about
600 emails waiting for me and so so you
tell me that I can only feel when I'm in
a situation where I don't have to worry
about anything but if things are going
on that make me nervous I can't feel a
sense of manes that means I don't have
control over my life so if we're
defining as a lack of
Da you've got a little bit of a problem
you're never actually going to be able
to feel that sense ofas so what exactly
you supposed to
do you know if you think about people
who are very calm Under Pressure like
listening to Steve gar today right like
you think like wow how awesome is that
you know I wish I had a story like that
where I I pulled up until got my grabbed
my gun from next to me and again running
out to you know kill some terrorists I
don't have any stories like that the
stories I have are not nearly as
exciting so when I was a very young
associate um my office mate worked at a
very very large law firm and we were
working on what at the time was the
single largest corporate restructuring
of all time it's about $8 billion in
debt and the company owned what was then
the largest fiber optic Network in the
world and we put the company in a
bankruptcy and we were selling it now
this sale and for some of you in this
room you're going to look at me as I'm
saying these words and think like I have
no idea what you're talking about but
just trust me on this one this was
something that was highly
confidential and it was not supposed to
be known outside of a small circle of
the company it's and its advisers now
there were a number of parties some of
the biggest names in finance that were
bidding on this company company called
Global Crossing and my office
mate well she was in charge of
sending out to all of the different
parties who were interested in bidding a
list of like bidding requirements but
she made one little mistake she didn't
BCC everybody she cced all of them the
next day the front page of the New York
Times was a list of all of the parties
that were interested in
bidding now you might imagine my office
mate was kind of freaked out by
this I was freaked out by it and I had
nothing to do with
it what does she do she walks down the
hall to the head of our group who was
again I'm not going to bother you or
bore you with the details but just
suffice it to say man was a legend in
the world of corporate finance and she
walks into his office with a copy of the
New York Times back back then it was you
know people actually had the hard copy
print right she walks into his office
and she shows it to
him he
stops okay first let's make sure they
spelled my name
right second let's go call the
client no stress no drama no anger
just don't we all want to be like that
where something crazy happen happens we
just okay what do you
do Freelander sayses has nothing to do
with lack of daus so the gar Nar says
that a person is like a
city what does it mean it's like a city
explains freedlander a city has a
government think of New York City right
you got the mayor for how much longer I
don't know and he has all of his various
department heads you know Department of
Education Department of energy the
sanitation police
fire every single one of those
department heads needs to make sure that
they're doing their
job if the dep head of the Department of
Sanitation decides that she's in charge
now of I don't know say the Department
of
Education well you're going to have a
problem because now she's not doing her
job she's doing something else and if
the head of the police department
decides now he's in charge of the
Department of energy same thing for the
city to work properly every single
aspect of that city has to be using the
talents that they have and they have to
stay in their Lane every human being is
given
certain certain
talents if you don't use your talents in
the right time and the right place
you're going to feel confusion but using
those talents in the right time in the
right place doing the job you're
supposed to do that says Freelander
that's said
differently is the feeling you get when
you see a job in front of you you know
what it is that you're supposed to do
and you do it and you don't think about
anything else you don't think about what
happened previously you don't think
what's going to come of it in the future
you just focus on what it is that's in
front of you to do and you do
it
that's you know the truth is we probably
all know people who have tremendous
talents but we're never really
mat because they couldn't actually
figure out the right time and the right
place as to where it is they're supposed
to be doing or what they're supposed to
be doing and they end up basically
getting in their own
way but a person who's able to focus on
what it is that he or she has in front
of them and don't doesn't worry about
anything else doesn't worry about what's
going to be later what happen previously
did I get it right last time will I get
it right next time I don't know all I
know is I have a job in front of me to
do right now and that's all that I'm
going to
do that's an incredible feeling
ofes but there's something else that you
have to know that goes along with
this Hashem created every single one of
us with a job to
do the the the uh the famous Jewish
philosopher Jerry Seinfeld has this
great line where he talks about like why
do people get so excited about
birthdays a big deal all you did was not
die that's his line but the truth is the
right way to think about birthdays this
has been attributed to although I've
never actually seen it inside is that
the B your birthday is a day thatu
decided that the world could no longer
exist without you because Hashem does
not do
duplicates if you exist in this world it
means that there is a job that Hashem
wants you to do that only you can do and
that job that you have exists every
second of every day there is something
for you to be doing in this life in your
life that relates to your relationship
to Hashem your a hasem and the world
around
you if you don't appreciate that you can
start to find yourself living in a world
where you're just like okay now what we
just like I have nothing to do without
recognizing that if you're still around
you do have a job you it's like if if
you ever met somebody who's like much
older like really towards the end of
their life and all they do is they talk
about what once was right the Glory Days
what what what used to happen but
they're making a huge
mistake because the fact is they're
living in a world now they still have
something they can accomplish that they
can
do that nobody else can do now by the
way listening to people like that
explain to you how they used to live in
The Glory Days is actually a huge like
totally serious you should absolutely do
it of course on the flip side younger
people tend to spend their time thinking
about what's going to be how many times
have you had like a thought in your head
I'm going to do five years from now I'm
going to be an accomplished fill-in the
blank and five years go by
and
nothing because means in this moment
that I'm in doesn't matter what else is
going to happen or what's been in this
moment Hashem has a job for me now it's
not always necessarily so easy to figure
out what that job
is and sometimes that can actually be a
little bit of a cause of our own problem
with the lack of because we don't really
know what is it that I'm supposed to be
doing in this
moment but if you look at things from
the perspective of Hashem gave me a job
to
do and living my
life is part of that job and I need to
focus on what's in front of me
now not the things that I wish happened
not the things that I hope would happen
not that hey I wish I was sitting on a
beach somewhere s p coladas because then
I'd have absolutely nothing to worry
about you ever do this like you come
back from vacation and it's like oh man
that vacation was so great then when
you're going on vacation it's like oh
man that vacation is going to be so
great when you're on vacation you're
spending all the time thinking about
what happened when you left the office
what's going to be when you come back
because you're not even enjoying or
taking advantage of the moment they
you're in your job when you're on
vacation I was going to say is to vacate
but I don't think that's actually the
right word your job on vacation is to
relax in that moment your job
is to relax and relaxation you know it's
going to take different forms for
different people but if you don't
realize what it is that you're supposed
to be doing you're never going to
findes because we make this mistake and
assume that
manases andas ha are the same thing when
in
reality they have nothing to do with
each other in
fact can cause a lack
of you ever lay in bed at night like
terribly worried about what's going to
come up at work or something in your
life the next day you're in bed right
you should be totally relaxed you're
going to sleep yet your mind is moving
at a million miles an
hour that that you're experiencing is
causing a lack
ofes when you realize that is about
focusing on the thing that's in front of
me
now I'm doing the job that I have in
front of me now then you can actually do
it and you can start to experience what
really feels like because you're doing
the job that you have to do now of
course as I mentioned a second
ago sometimes knowing what the job that
we have to do can be a little bit hard
to to figure out but I think part of the
problem that we have is that we make a
little bit of a mistake in terms of
thinking about what our job in life is
because again I think I've already ask
most of us what our job in life is we
would say it has something to do with a
hasem and that's obviously
right but the problem that we make is or
we create for ourselves is we don't
translate what it means to do your a
Hashem into the actuality of what it
means to live life day to day give you
an example so um a friend of mine was
learning in Kyo many many years AG go
and he was learning in in and he comes
into to for seder and he was very
excited working on a certain Su whatever
it was and in the middle of
seder somebody comes in and tells them
that you know nobody had cell phones
back then so he was the somebody his
wife had called the I guess the pay
phone and comes in and says to him there
was some problem in the house she needed
him to come
home and he was very very frustrated by
this cuz he's I'm the middle I'm much in
the middle of learning for Crader like
my wife needs me to come home I'm I'm
I'm I'm here and as Ro K said to him
you're making a
mistake it's obvious right now that
Hashem wants you to go
home you have a certain level of clarity
that most of us may not have it at any
given moment time in our lives it
obviously you need to go
home your hasem now go home help your
wife the problem we have is that we live
our lives thinking that Aus Hashem it
has to be our Focus which is true we
don't realize that how we work on our
aod Hashem has to be viewed through the
lens of what else is going on in our
lives at that
moment give you another example
friedlander at the end of his life was
very sick he was actually in in in a
hospital in New York and he was
experiencing tremendous pain and he
wrote a letter I believe this to was to
his son you know talking about the types
of things that some freeder talks about
and he was explaining how hard it was
for him
with all the pain he was experiencing to
actually do his usual s and the things
that he used to do to work on himself
but then he says to his son I realized
something that I've been missing all
these years I thought of life as the
different sort of buckets into which we
place the aspects of our life I have my
learning I have the that I do I have you
know my relationship with my with my
wife and my relationship with my kids
and
and all the things that I do in my life
and then I have this last bucket which
is dealing with
challenges and so everything has to be
the same and I need to deal with the
challenges in my life as best as
possible but that can't impact my
learning my my and so
on that's the wrong way to look at it
you have the things that you do in your
life how things are going at any given
moment that's what Hashem is asking of
you
how well are you doing in your learning
for example when things are going
fine but how well you're doing in your
learning when things are not going well
Hashem does not assume or expect that
it's going to be the same he just wants
to know are you still
trying it's like when I was in high
school like the really in thing for
those of us who are on the basketball
team you know you know it's like you're
on a basketball team in yiva and
basically a bunch of short white Jewish
white kids so we'd always try to come up
with different ways to jump higher right
and of course none of them ever worked
and one of the things that we did was
this was very inv vogan like in like the
late 80s early 9s they had these shoes
they had these huge platforms like on
the front of the foot like right like
right right down here and you basically
supposed to play in them because like
you're supposed to be walking on your
tippy toes because guys don't wear heels
right and essentially you're supposed to
be running around that's supposed to
make your calf muscles much much
stronger okay I don't know which K came
up with this idea but clearly he was a
marketing genius CU everyone I know
bought them but never
worked but the reality is when you're
playing in that sort of environment
you're not going to play the same way as
when you're wearing regular shoes but
the idea is are just are you trying the
same how are you doing when you're
wearing you know ankle weights it's not
going to be the same as when you're not
but that doesn't matter it's not
supposed to be that's not what hasm is
asking of you Hashem just wants you in
the moment to do the best job that you
can with the abilities that you have in
the challenges that he sends you cuz
those challenges were tailor made for
you you want to
findes you have to get out of this mode
ofes is only available to me when
nothing's going on when it's easy when
I'm relaxed when work's great and the
kids are good and you know everything at
home is fine and it's 75 and sunny
outside that's that's it's not life life
doesn't work that way and if that's what
you thinkes is you're never going to
find it because you're going to spend
your entire life chasing a dream and
missing out on the feelings you can get
the feelings of accomplishment the
awesome feelings you can get by living a
life of focusing on what it is that's in
front of you and those mistaken
definitions totally mess us
up you see a very very similar idea when
it comes to just general
happiness right you ever hear this this
line right happiness is a choice you
heard this before right the first time I
heard this I was like oh that's
fantastic I didn't realize it was a
choice now that I know it's a choice I'm
only going to choose happiness that
lasted for about an hour like what do
you mean I'm trying to choose happiness
why am I not feeling
happy well maybe the problem is I don't
really know what happiness
is so um my son's rash sik loves telling
over this this Misa that a Bak that he
knew was suffering from whatever it was
challenges he was going through and
having a hard time you feeling Sim so
his Riva I think it was Stern told him
you know there's there's an alter yid in
in Lawrence by Nyon he he learned in
brisk by the brisar RV go talk to him
okay this kid goes and he talks to uh
sit and he starts asking about you know
things that happened in brisk and uh
rean says to him and I'm a third
generation American so I'm going to say
this in English because if I said it in
English in in yish none of us would
understand it so he says toan like you
know in brisk what was it like so says
to him brisk very very focused on
Sim and this kid looks
her I don't know I don't think of brisk
as like the Paradigm of what SIM is you
know you want to talk breest of maybe I
don't think of brisk is Sim when I looks
at him and says oh
oh you're talking about
H I'm talking about
Sim we make this mistake Sim to us often
means like a party
right okay be happy but what if I'm not
feeling happy what if I don't have a
party to go to or what if there's a
party to go to and I'm just not feeling
it that's so I I can't feel happy
because I can't have this environment
around me that's creating happiness just
doesn't really make any
sense or here here's a I I'm I'm
actually afraid to do this actually live
we'll see what we'll see if this works
okay so I'm going to give everyone a
choice I could wave a magic wand you can
have one of two things I can either give
you5
billion or I can guarantee that you'll
be happy the rest of your life but
you'll be
poor
anyone okay don't answer it's
okay when I do this in like with with
with with the with secular crowds right
everyone puts up their hand and says
they want the $5 billion why because
they say well if I have if I if you
you're Josh if you give me happiness
I'll be happy but I'll be poor give me5
billion I'll be happy and I'll be
rich without realizing that $5 billion
is highly unlikely to actually make you
happy because if you don't know what
happiness actually
is you're never going to achieve it
so of all places to go for definition of
Happiness the pet Reba who's A rebba in
the war so ghetto and again just to give
you some idea of what he went through
one of his
early M the way the way the way he gave
over his St how the as KES got printed
in of itself as a a nigla in terms of
how they found it but you know he see
speak by shalas and then they write it
down what shabas so one year he was
talking about the concept of what it
means to have happiness and he says to
his by the way you know you talk to me
about being happiness thinking we're
suffering so much you think we suffered
more than anyone else in in Jewish
history is what he writes two years
later he says over the same mimer and in
the as kodes on the bottom there's a
footnote I take back what I said nobody
suffered the way that we have just to
give a sense of how much suffering they
went through in the war so ghetto but
the PETA of all people has a definition
of
happiness because happiness is the
pleasure you feel from the process of
growth the work that you put in to try
and make yourself better gives you a
pleasure that is unmatched in this
world that's
happiness happiness is not something I
happen to get a new pair of shoes a new
bottle of wine happiness is not even
friendships or
relationships true happiness only comes
from the work that you do to make
yourself a better
person not that you accomplish it not
that you
succeed but that you put in the work to
make yourself a better
person think for a second
about how you
feel after you control your
temper go to the gym do a favor for
somebody you can't stand maybe spend a
little extra time learning a little
extra time saying to hilum think about
the pleasure that you get
beforehand no interest ah I want it I'm
not sure not for me but then you do
it that pleasure that you
feel that's happiness
recognizing that your ability to be
happy it is a choice because it's the
choice that comes from deciding I'm not
going to take it easy see the thing is
we live in a world where everything
around us whether we realize it or not
is us being bombarded with the
message easier is
better flip through any one of the from
magazines and read the ads right just
look at them you'll see every single
one another PES program another type of
food you've never had before you didn't
even know you realize you needed another
restaurant look everyone needs to make
money I'm not trying to to harp on them
but the fact of the matter is we don't
even realize how much we we are
bombarded with this message that easier
is better you want to be happy you need
it to be
easier but the technology that we use in
our lives that has become so much a part
of our Lives is all about making things
easier so naturally whether we realize
it or not if we don't stop and focus and
change our mindset we're never going to
be able to find happiness because
happiness requires doing the
work you know perms coming up on Friday
right so one of the things that I found
over the years this is probably more
true for the men in the room than for
the women is that people look forward
guys look forward to perm crazy and
women hate it because the sh stuff is
crazy right but guys look forward to
perm because to them it's like the
opportunity to feel a sense of of real
Sim try this or don't try this at home
especially if you're married don't try
this with your husband it's a bad idea
ask a guy the day after perum how he
feels two days after perm how he feels
that Sim that you had where is it what
did it do for
you s you kidding me it's gone like I'm
still getting over my headache for my
hangover over Sim I don't have SIM
anymore what do you mean what was the
point of going through perm if you don't
have some Sim that you can take with you
but the problem is our definition of sim
is totally messed up it's just a
question of what party am I going to
next whose suit am I going to stop by
which R am I going to go to and not
realizing that the work of
PM is real work you want to tap into
that Sim you need to realize what it is
in your life that you don't like to do
and figure out a way to do
it figure out a way to work
harder I didn't say happiness is
fun because the truth is it's not about
fun real happiness brings with it that
that we are all so desperately searching
for the thing that we want in our lives
more than anything because I'll tell you
something no matter what you have going
on in your life and every single person
in this room without a doubt has
something going on in their life that's
that's
life but if you want to make that life
whatever your own pecola is if you want
to make it not just tolerable but
enjoyable live life you're not looking
forward to the next vacation because the
only thing you can imagine and you're
not going through the week just saying
okay when's the weekend going to come so
I don't have to worry about whatever it
is that's bothering me but I want to
live life where every day I'm
happy and that means making sure that I
know I have to put in the
work because without doing that it's
just going to be an elusive dream that
you spend your entire life
chasing and for every single one of us
and this is this with this I'm going to
end you
know we're living in the month
of now is the time to make that decision
to choose that I want more happiness in
my life
and that means very practical think
about something in your life that you
want to be better don't go crazy
something
small something you want to be better
and think of a way that you're going to
work at
it it it could be anything I mean the op
the options are literally
Limitless but now is the time if you
want to find that in your life you want
to find that Sim you have to find that
one thing to start with that I don't
have because I'm not working at it
because I want instead I try to take it
easy I don't work so
hard and when you have that choice and
you decide I'm going to work out a
little bit more that's when you'll see
the rest of your life is going to start
to feel different because every area of
your life you're going to find
opportunities
for okay take a deep breath what's in
front of me now what's the job I have to
do what do I need to work at to make my
life a little bit better with that I
give a br to all of us that this Ador
and this perm will all experience a true
Sim in our life that we can carry with
with us the rest of the year